Talk:Granulation

Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources	Episodes
2. Near-canon Sources	Webisodes, Graphic Novels, iStories, Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources	Episode commentary, Interviews, Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities	Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities	Descriptions
6. Possessor's name	If no non-speculative description is possible
Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine granulation's name.
Source/Explanation
Gordon turns things into sand.

FINALLY

I have been waiting for this power. Plus, I believe that sand mimicry is the best name we have.--BoomerDay 07:35, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

His ability

I think his ability is to simply turn anything he touches or touches him into sand. This is a line from the latest IStory, "Bullets hit the other guy too ... and turn into sand." The bullets turn into sand not Gordon. I think we should call it Sand transmutation. --posted by Laughingdevilboy Talk 10:26, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

• I think this is right as well. When I saw the gn, I assumed that the bullets touching him simply became sand. Also he didn't spit sand, that was marys blood being turned into sand --IronyUTC CH 10:30, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Of course you prefer The Mummy, but the citation is from Genesis 3:19 "Dust to Dust": he does not "mimicry" dust, he lets somebody else return to dust! --Juba 14:27, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
    • I think he can become sand.. When Mary's blood hit him it made a "szzz" sound which is what I imagine "acid blood" would sound like if it hit sand.. --Peter 15:08, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
      • I dont think it is Mary's blood I think that is the bullets turning to sand. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 15:13, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

• They call it dust in the novel, not sand.--Riddler 15:17, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
  • They call it sand in the IStory. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 15:19, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

• Check the fourth page of the comic. On the bed and the floor are what i assume to be bullets. If they are that means he could've became very dense sand and the bullets kind of bounced off OR he became sand, the bullet entered his "sand-like body" and then he pushed the bullets out (like when Sylar/Claire is shot and they cough up the bullet) --Peter 15:31, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
  • My problem is what takes precedence, the IStory or GN, as the IStory states they turned into sand. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 15:49, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

• I'm thinking sand transumation, he may have used his ability on himself possibly --Lolwut 17:20, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
• It should definitely be sand transmutation. There is no indication in the gn that his body turned into sand and in the iStory it is stated that the bullets turned into sand, not him. --Elemental Manipulator [ U | T | C ] - When in doubt, ask BTE 20:09, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
  • I agree that it should be transmutation, not mimicry, since we haven't seen Gordon turn into sand.--MiamiVolts (talk) 20:17, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Sandwitchcraft!...lol--Anthony Gooch 23:38, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
    • I had considered sand transmutation when naming the article, the problem was, I felt that the name would imply that he transmutes sand, and not transmutes things into sand. In other "turn things into XXX" abilities, we always used a simple verb - "freezing", because to freeze is to turn things into ice. "Melting" or "liquefaction", because to melt or to liquefy is to turn something into liquid. But there is no such verb for sand, and I'm opposed to sand transmutation for the reasons stated above. I chose sand mimicry since to me it seemed like he was shielding Eric Doyle from bullets with his sand-form body, which would get hit by the bullets harmlessly, and the "turning others into sand" bit was simply an extension of his ability to others. --Radicell 04:11, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
      • However, the latest iStory confirmed his body doesn't turn into sand, he turned the bullets into sand, so the page cannot stay as sand mimicry.

--Elemental Manipulator [ U | T | C ] - When in doubt, ask BTE 04:21, 15 April 2009 (EDT)

• • • • I like sand trasmutation suggested by Elemental Manipulator. --Scorvi12 04:33, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
        • He's a pulverizer: pulverization, or sputtering! --Juba 04:47, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
          • No, none of those match what we know of his ability. I still think my first suggestion of Sand transmutation is the best name for this ability, until we get more information on this ability. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 05:43, 15 April 2009 (EDT)

• • • • • • • lol...Sanding...Ok, that's my last corny joke.--Anthony Gooch 12:05, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
• Since the iStory said he changed the bullets, and the image we have from the Graphic Novel doesn't actually show penetration (we'd be able to say his body was sand if the bullets came out the other side, we only see them turn to sand), I took it upon myself to move the page.--Riddler 15:22, 15 April 2009 (EDT)

Consensus check

I was asked to run a consensus check on this ability's name. I think it's a good idea. As outlined at here and piloted here, this consensus check will be a little different than the ones done in the past. Rather than "voting" for your favorite ability name, only sign your name under ability names that you oppose. You shouldn't place your name under ones that you just "don't like", but under names that you conclusively oppose. Not putting your signature doesn't mean you necessarily think the ability name is perfect, just that you're not going to stand in the way of the name being chosen. Of course, your opinion can (and should) be voiced along with your dissent. This can be done either under the ability name, or in a new section. Any name that is reasonably opposed by an editor will be considered out of the "running". The final ability name will be chosen from among the names that are not opposed. If all names are opposed (which I doubt will happen), the name will default to "Gordon's ability".

Names are being culled from discussions I've seen on the wiki. If I missed one, feel free to add it. Remember, only sign your name if you oppose a name. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:05, 15 April 2009 (EDT)

• Please don't forget to leave a reason for any opposition your are expressing. Opinions can be expressed next to your signature, or in a new section. And thanks for being patient with this new form of consensus check! :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:26, 15 April 2009 (EDT)

Sand transmutation

• Hate to do this, but I disagree. Sand transmutation doesn't at all suggest that he's transmuting things into sand, but that he's transmuting sand itself. --Radicell 06:01, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
• In light of the new name(Silicification), I have to agree. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 10:38, 16 April 2009 (EDT)

• • I should point out that just because one name might be better, that does not negate another name that is still valid. So just because "sand transmutation" is not the best choice does not mean it's invalid. We should only oppose names that are conclusively wrong. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:54, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
    • I think Ryan is correct that the term is not invalid. My thought is that sand transmutation means to transmute items into sand, while sand mutation means to mutate sand into different items--transmute meaning to change into, while mutate meaning to alter. I'm not opposed to using "sand transmutation" for that reason.--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:11, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
• Opposed as of reasons above --IronyUTC CH 10:38, 16 April 2009 (EDT)

Sand mimicry

• Opposed --IronyUTC CH 21:07, 15 April 2009 (EDT) He hasn;t been shown to mimic sand.
• Opposed, not shown/said to mimic anything.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:49, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
• Opposed for reason above.--Crazylicious 23:43, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
• As above reason. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 06:53, 16 April 2009 (EDT) Dust transmutation

• Opposed --IronyUTC CH 21:07, 15 April 2009 (EDT) I believe it is sand
• Opposed (Sorry, my bad...The iStory says "sand" and thats pretty canon, plus, I would imagine dust to have more of a whispy effect than the one shown.)--Anthony Gooch
  • Opinions with out reasons don't count... Anthony, please give a reason.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:49, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
• Opposed, iStory says that the bullets turned to sand, and it DOES look more like sand to me. --Crazylicious 23:43, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
• Same reason as above --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 06:53, 16 April 2009 (EDT) Dust mimicry

• Opposed --IronyUTC CH 21:07, 15 April 2009 (EDT) I believe it is sand not dust
• Opposed (He's not mimicing dust, he turned bullets and the gaurd to sand)--Anthony Gooch 21:08, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Opinions with out reasons don't count... Anthony, please give a reason.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:49, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
• Opposed--Scorvi12 He doesn't mimic dust.
• Opposed, not shown/said to mimic anything.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:49, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
• Opposed, iStory says that the bullets turned to sand, and it DOES look more like sand to me. --Crazylicious 23:43, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
• As above reason. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 06:53, 16 April 2009 (EDT)

Silicification

Silicification

Could someone explain this so people can understand what it is before making a decision. Since this name has not been mentioned before I thought it best that either the person who added it or someone who knows what it is could explain. Thanks :) --posted by Laughingdevilboy Talk 10:18, 16 April 2009 (EDT)

To silicify is to turn/convert into silicon dioxide, which is found most commonly as sand. Silicification is the act of silicifying. --Radicell 10:23, 16 April 2009 (EDT)

Well, well looks like we have a better name than mine :) --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 10:36, 16 April 2009 (EDT)