Talk:Mohinder Suresh

Taxi License

Just making this no longer blank, since Talk:Mohinder needs to redirect here.--Hardvice (talk) 16:06, 1 December 2006 (EST)

OK, I just added a link to Mohinder's license, and the thought occurred to me. In 1.5 days, Mohinder manages to get a cab-driver's license. Isn't that rather fast for a guy who just marched in from India without any preparation? Cuardin 16:33, 10 January 2007 (EST)

• Since he would presumably need a chauffeur's license, and not just an ordinary driver's license, this is especially strange. I presume that the US honors regular driver's licenses from at least some other countries, allowing foreign tourists and the like to rent cars while in the states. Such a license should not, however, allow someone to drive strangers or cargo in a business capacity, though. --Ted C 16:42, 10 January 2007 (EST)

For my own sake (feel free to delete), here is a timeline of the "3 days"

• 3 days ago: Midday, Mohinder gets the message his father is dead. During the day he decides to go to New York. We assume he goes to the airport and with a stand-by-tiket, manages to get on the evening flight to Europe.

• 2 days ago: With 1 part luck and 2 parts time-difference, Mohinder arrives at JFK before noon this day. I did a check and this is possible. Mohinder applies for a taxi driver's license.

• Today / 1 day ago: Mohinder gets the license and a job as a taxi driver. Main timeline of Genesis begins sometime Midday today.

Cuardin 16:33, 10 January 2007 (EST)

• Check out the requirements on the NYC Taxi & Limousine Commission website. It's not only unlikely, it's nigh-impossible. I suppose if Mohinder had been a student here, and held a job while he was studying, he could have the SS card, a US photo id, and proof of address (outdated proof of address, but still), but it's pretty unlikely he'd have had a chauffeur's license unless he was driving a taxi the first (hypothetical) time he was in the U.S. It's more likely that the license is forged; the cab boss did say she needed drivers in a hurry, so maybe they just doctored Chandra's license. Or maybe the writers just blew it for the sake of moving the story along. Great catch, though.--Hardvice (talk) 17:51, 10 January 2007 (EST)
  • Wouldn't be the first time something of the sort happened (in both the corruption and story-telling senses). --Ted C 18:00, 10 January 2007 (EST)
  • Do we have previous indication that Mohinder has studied in the US? Mohinder is rather fluent in English. OK, it is an American show, but let's do this entirely in-world. Mohinder has gone through some fairly lengthy schooling, and it is even probable, that he has been abroad for at least a year. Together with the taxi-license, there is some weight to that theory, don't you think? Cuardin 10:12, 12 January 2007 (EST)
    • What I "love" about the languages on Heroes is that they speak Japanese in Japan, but English in India. Hmmm.

      There's no indication that he studied in the US. He is obviously educated (heck, he's a professor), but no indication that he studied in the US whatsoever. In fact, his accent is quite British (which is common for Indians, since English actually is a national language, and the country was ruled by Great Britain until 1947, IIRC). Cool theory, a bit of weight to it, but nothing factual unfortunately. :) - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:24, 11 January 2007 (EST)

      • IRL, around me, it is very uncommon that someone reach the level of "professor" (I doubt he is a professor at the age of 35, probably an associate professor) without having studied at least some time abroad. But of course what I really believe is that the writers completely fudged up because that is what writers do, all the time. (Hi, Orne. Fixed it now :P) Cuardin 10:12, 12 January 2007 (EST)

• Why is NBc calling Mohinder by his last name now? Heroe 18:07, 27 January 2007 (EST)

Parasite

Did Mohinder die? --Xmuskrat 09:16, 6 March 2007 (EST)

• He was still alive when Peter showed up: he managed to whisper "Sylar!" to Peter. --Ted C 10:10, 6 March 2007 (EST)
  • Still alive ... barely. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:00, 7 March 2007 (EST)
• I think Sylar needs to keep him alive long enough to create the new version of the list. Although, if Sylar is some kind of intuitive genius, I wonder why he needs Mohinder for that purpose. --ZyberGoat 13:25, 8 March 2007 (EST)

Age?

His mom said he was 2 when Shanti died. But then in The Hard Part, it seemed like she died a few months before he was born. So what gives? Was his mom just lying so he wouldn't realize he was just concieved for his magic blood?--Leshia 22:55, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

• It's possible that Shanti was younger in that picture. Heroe!(talk) (contribs) ^{Random Page!} 22:58, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
• That is odd. Mohinder's statement that he was born too late to help his sister does indeed make it seem like he was born after she died, which doesn't jive with Mrs. Suresh's statement. (While we're on the subject of Mohinder's age, it might not hurt to consider that Thompson never says Shanti died in 1974--he says there was "one other case--and Indian girl in 1974". This might well mean she died in 1974, but it might also mean she got sick, or her illness was identified, in 1974, and she died later.) Both the discrepancy and the possibility that Shanti's death occurred later are probably worth noting.--Hardvice (talk) 13:30, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Considering the Sureshs have not always had the motto of truth first. And considering we've apparently seen than 1974 picture of her, my guess is Mohinder's age should be more accurately 32 than 34. --Harlequin 16:19, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
    • Well, we know he's at least 32, and I agree that the information we have from The Hard Part suggests that he was actually born a few months after Shanti died. We don't know how long it took her illness to kill her, but it was apparently long enough for Chandra to do enough research to realize that another child might provide the antibodies need to fight the virus. The "Shanti became ill in 1974" explanation seems to provide the fewest continuity problems. --Ted C 16:27, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

Cure to The Shanti Virus

Like Alejandro's power is an ability to negate the effects of his sister's ability, could Mohinder's be the ability to cure the Shanti Virus? It would fit with the paradigm of siblings having powers (i.e. Alejandro y Maya and the Petrelli brothers). It would also fit the paradigm of one sibling being the yin to the other sibling's yang. --Snow Leapord 14:09, 2 October 2007 (EDT)

• See Theory:Mohinder Suresh. I have the same feeling. --Pinkkeith 14:13, 2 October 2007 (EDT)
• We're going to have to wait to see for certain, but I suspect the cure was Chandra's doing. I suspect he either developed a cure and innoculated Mohinder to be safe or he manipulated Mohinder's code so he'd produce the antibodies to cure the disease. I'm leaning towards the latter. It's similar to how in some cases we alter the genetic code of bacteria to reprogram them to produce chemicals like HGH or at a more macroscopic level the way we alter mice to grow human ears on their backs. (Admin 14:18, 2 October 2007 (EDT))
  • It's been pretty well-established in sources outside the show that Mohinder does not (and will not) have any evolved powers. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:34, 2 October 2007 (EDT)
    • Yeah... I'm just curious to see if he happened to innoculate Mohinder or if he was just using him as a growth medium. :) (Admin 14:44, 2 October 2007 (EDT))

• Alternatively, If Mohinder's ability to cure the Shanti virus is just healthy antibodies as stated in The Hard Part, isn't that deserving of a listing amongst his "equipment" alongside a tuning fork? I'm tempted to put "Ph.D." in the list too. After all, "Knowing is half the battle!"--NissanVersaDootDoot 18:00, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

• I think maybe, Mohinder has an ability, but he just has not discovered it yet. He can cure the virus with his own blood, maybe Chandra put something in his blood along with the cure that prevents him from discovering it until he has cured a certain number of people? Or until a certain time. Unlikely, but hey, its Heroes! Dean Harper 22:40, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

• I have read that to Ryangibsonstewart, but many other shows have made similar claims and then went back on it. Smallville was no flight no tights but they have had Clark fly of his own power before. It wouldn't be unprecedented for them to be adamant that a claim will never ever happen in a million years but then go do it later on. --Snow Leapord 07:03, 9 October 2007 (EDT)

French

For thoose interested, Mohinder speaks an hesitating but grammaticaly perfect French. Here is the transcript :

"Je m'appelle Mohinder Suresh, je suis médecin.

Il est possible que vous ayez un virus très rare, c'est pour ca que je suis venu. Je peux peut-être vous aider. Vous donner un remède."

- Mohinder to the Haitian.

--  (talk) 06:54, 4 October 2007 (EDT)

• "My name is Mohinder Suresh, I'm a doctor." / "It is possible that you've got a rare virus, this is why I came here. Maybe I can help you. I give you a remedy." Was that right? :D --BloodyFox 16:53, 26. November 2007 (CEST)
  • Close. He says, "My name is Mohinder Suresh. I'm a doctor." / "There's a possibility you have a very rare virus. That's why I've come. I may be able to help. Give you a cure." The subtitles are in yellow at the bottom of the screen. You can check the transcript, too. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:00, 26 November 2007 (EST)
    • I know the subtitles. But "il est possible" means "it is possible", not "there's a possibility". The subtitles sometimes just translate with other words, to keep them short and fast to read before the next part pops up. I'm pretty sure what I wrote is closer to the original text, than the actual subtitles. Well, but I have to admit, that I've forgot to translate "trés" --> "It is possible that you've got a very rare virus, ..." --BloodyFox 17:27, 26. November 2007 (CEST)

Occupation

Should we add "Geneticist (The Company)" or "Agent (The Company)" or something? He's obviously receiving some kid of remuneration in his role as double agent. --NissanVersaDootDoot 10:06, 9 October 2007 (EDT)

He does have powers!

Since his blood is the cure for the virus, wouldnt that be considered a power? It seems like a power. He can save lives with it.Nick Petrelli 21:05, 4 December 2007 (EST)

• No more than my blood being able to help someone when given in a blood transfusion. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:14, 4 December 2007 (EST)

• • Not quite. His blood can cure people who have a virus. Its like if someones blood can be used for curing cancerNick Petrelli 17:25, 7 December 2007 (EST)
    • His blood can be used because it contains antibodies against the Shanti virus, presumably because his older sister had the illness. Your blood contains antibodies against all sorts of diseases to which you've been exposed. He tells Molly, effectively, that he has the antibodies because Shanti was born sick, causing his mother to pass antibodies on to her next child. It's not a power.--Hardvice (talk) 18:41, 7 December 2007 (EST)

Artifical powers

I belive a new section is needed for the character template for artificaly given powers. Future Ando and Mohinder can't use the same space as those with true ablities, now can they? --Piemanmoo 02:39, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

• I agree, a new section is warranted, much like the "Evolved Human Abilities" section. I wouldn't call it that, since Mohinder isn't an evolved human. Something simple like "Evolved Abilities" would suffice. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 02:47, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
  • Unless the formula is what started the current batch of heroes and they are all artificial. Andrei 02:48, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
    • I think artificial abilities could work.--Skywalkerrbf 02:50, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
      • The ability isn't artificial. The means by which he obtained the power is artificial. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 04:13, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
        • I agree with not calling the new abilities artificial. That would include people who have bionics, which these people don't appear to have. Imho, these new abilities don't need a separate classification as they are not really given but brought out. The formula Mohinder made brings to fruition an ability which is different for each person based on the genetics a person already has.
          The way I understand it, Mohinder has discovered that many people have evolved the capacity to exert one or more innate special abilities, and his formula just allows a person access to those abilities earlier than they normally would. Thus, the abilities are still evolved human abilities and Mohinder is now an evolved human, and always has been. We don't have any proof that Mohinder and Ando couldn't have evolved their abilities without the formula. This is kind of like giving someone testosterone to induce puberty earlier than normal; said person may have still gone into puberty as the genes to do so are there.
          Ouch, sorry for the long explanation but I just wanted to get out how I interpreted things.--MiamiVolts (talk) 04:47, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
• I'd call these "Induced abilities." Apparently, abilites are latent in everyone, it just takes certain genes or, in Mohinder's case, a little gene therapy to activate them. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 10:42, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Mohinder's power's name

Mohinder does not have enhanced strength--he was able to crawl up a wall, he has scaly things growing on his back, and we learn that he becomes gooey. Greg Beeman says "Suresh displays his new 'bug-like' powers". He also says "Suresh was to bug-crawl up the wall" and "The writers gave us [some info] about where this bug power was going." I'm not suggesting any of those are good names (though something with "bug" or "insect" would in the title is probably a good idea), but I am suggesting--nay, insisting--that Mohinder does not have the same power Niki does. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 04:17, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

• I propose just calling it Mohinder's power until a more appropriate name arises. Or Mohinder's artificial power. --Piemanmoo 04:19, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
  • I suggest just Mohinder's ability for now... it's not artificial, just drug-induced.--MiamiVolts (talk) 04:47, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
  • As a side note, I hope they don't call his ability "insection" :P If it is bug-like powers, I think insect mimicry would be appropriate. Also, he doesn't become gooey; portions of his skin are peeling off... he could be molting like a type of lizard. If he used ingredients from Mohinder the lizard, it could be lizard mimicry instead... we're going to have to wait and see on this one so I think "Mohinder's ability" is fine for now.--MiamiVolts (talk) 04:56, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
    • Isn't he seen drinking a lot of milk the morning after? Milk is a source of calcium, which is a major component of insect carapaces/exoskeletons.--Kidsafe 06:11, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
      • That works for lizards too.--MiamiVolts (talk) 06:21, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
        • I'm pretty sure Greg Beeman and the writers wouldn't have used the word "bug" numerous times if Mohinder were more like a lizard. I'm sure his power has something to do with being a bug or an insect, not a reptile. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 06:25, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
        • I think another facet of his bug power is becoming really horny all of a sudden. Jumping Maya like that was kind of out-of-character for normal Mohinder. Rfresa
          • To some people, lizards are considered pests/bugs. I wouldn't be so quick to make that assumption, and would rather wait till we can distinguish the ability more clearly before naming it.--MiamiVolts (talk) 06:29, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
            • I agree, I don't think we should decided on a name just yet. The point of my original post was to share what Beeman said as well as to refute any ideas that Suresh has enhanced strength. But I think we should certainly not plant ideas that his power has something to do with lizards (especially under the falsehood of a lizard being a bug) when lizards don't climb walls the way Mohinder did, and clearly the writers are going for something entirely different. Suggesting Mohinder resembles a lizard is misleading and speculative at best. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 06:42, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
              • Many lizards can and do climb walls the way Mohinder did, and pester and bug are synonyms. Check out the links. Now, I didn't mean to suggest that insect or lizard mimicry were the only possibilities: it could also be a spider mimicry or worm mimicry, or a number of other things. Scientifically, bugs are normally invertebrates only, but we don't know what Beeman meant--he could have meant the term as slang, and thus we shouldn't be jumping to a conclusion yet (not even to rule out lizards). That's the point I'm trying to make.--MiamiVolts (talk) 07:46, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
                • Maybe it should be spidrokinesis. :) Chrisyu357 10:51, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
                  • I believe you mean arachnokinesis. --Yamawhata? 17:05, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
                    • What I gleaned from the presentation of his power was that he was more like an insect or a spider or something. The music, if you noticed, had a more bug-like sound to it. And I don't see "bug" as being used to describe lizard powers. Yes, lizards could be considered pests to some people, but when people say bug, they usually mean bug or insect.Oh, and if you noticed, there was also some sort of spider or bug crawling in Mohinder the Lizard's cage when Mohinder (the human) stuck his hand inside. I agree, though, that it should be called "Mohinder's power" for now. User:Mask-o 4:05, 23
                    • Could this be following the cockroach theme that heroes had from start? User:LordMalekal 7:37, 23
                      • Not to complain about my favorite show, but it kinda seems like Mohinders powers are a major rip from "The Fly" and X-Mens Beast. Scientist experimenting, got powers, something goes wrong altering his body. So far seems more "The Fly" based off his personality changes but we'll see. [ U | T |
• Looks like the Heroes writers are pulling a Kafka on us. ;) --Hero!^(talk)_(contribs) 20:42, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
• Enhanced testosterone. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 21:02, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
  • • Ok, I'm not even going to attempt to address everything, but just from seeing various "kinesis"es, I'm going to say this is out of hand, and doesn't remotely follow our naming convention. There's no evidence as to what his ability is aside from what is currently described. There's nothing to describe it accurately until further details are/will be revealed. Until then, I don't see the need to debate because it's obvious everyone has their own theory as to what Mohinder can/can't do, even though it has yet to be shown on television. Just sit back and wait a week or two until we get something further on this. Aside from all of what I've just said, this discussion should be held on Mohinder's ability, and no this page. This page is with regards to just Mohinder.--Bob (talk) 06:43, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
• I propose just calling it Mohinder's power until a more appropriate name arises. Or Mohinder's artificial power. --jamiehutber 16:35, 24 September 2008 (EDT)