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|[[Angela Petrelli]]'s third child is [[Hiro Nakamura]], who was born when she shared a relationship with [[Kaito Nakamura]]. || None. || {{plus}} Just before Kaito's death in ''[[Four Months Later...]]'', he seems very friendly with Angela when she meets him on the [[rooftop]]. <br /> |
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{{plus}} It is strongly suspected that both Angela and Kaito have powers, which would mean any child between them would also have a power.<br /> |
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{{plus}} In ''[[Lizards]]'', Angela mentioned she "[wasn't] sleeping with Kaito, not for a long time, anyway." |
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| Angela has [[phasing]]. || None. || {{Plus}} As far as we know Peter was never around DL and so he must have absorbed it from someone else.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Peter was near D.L. in the confrontation with [[Sylar]] in ''[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]''. |
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| Angela is [[telekinetic]]. || None. || {{plus}}So far, [[Peter]] has failed to demonstrate any of [[Sylar]]'s abilities besides [[telekinesis]]. Even when [[Peter]]'s memory is wiped, none of [[Sylar]]'s abilities that would otherwise have activated, like [[enhanced hearing]] or [[enhanced memory]], activated. Logically, this could mean that [[Peter]] is not able to absorb any of [[Sylar]]'s powers. Thus, he must have gotten his [[telekinesis]] elsewhere. Besides [[telekinesis]], all of [[Peter]]'s other [[abilities]] are of a known origin. It has also been stated that we have seen [[Peter]] use [[Angela]]'s ability. If you assume that [[Peter]] cannot [[absorb]] [[Sylar]]'s [[powers]], the only logical origin of his [[telekinesis]] is [[Angela]]. <br /> |
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:{{minus}} Peter has to remember a certain feeling to use powers. As he said to [[Claude]], the person he thinks of when using telekinesis is Sylar.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} The writers have confirmed that Peter has absorbed all of Sylar's powers.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Peter has yet to display any of Sylar's abilities other than telekinesis.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Peter probably wouldn't want to think about Sylar or how he felt when he was around him for fear of becoming anything like Sylar.<br/> |
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| Angela has [[empathic mimicry]]. || None. || {{plus}}Angela's evasive answer to [[Claire]] indicates she may have a power. (''[[.07%]]'')<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Claude]] has apparently encountered someone with Empathic Mimicry before, since he seems familiar with [[Peter Petrelli|Peter's]] powers.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} However, he was not familiar with how the powers of one with empathic mimicry work.<br /> |
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::{{note}} This could have been because the person with empathic mimicry he knew had powers that worked differently. Also, he could have intentionally been misleading Peter about how his powers would work.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Future Angela helps [[Peter]] remember who he is. (''[[Out of Time]]'') She possibly showed him her own life experiences. Peter possibly absorbed her empathic powers to do this.<br /> |
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{{minus}} If Angela has empathic mimicry, then she would have [[Matt]]'s telepathy and that would have caused a mental feedback, where two telepaths can't read each others minds. <br /> |
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{{minus}} Angela met [[Claire]] and could have easily met [[Ted]]. Why use Peter to [[explosion|destroy]] [[NYC]]?<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Despite Angela's pointing out that now Peter has Claire's power, he has the chance to survive blowing up New York, she believes that Peter has died in the explosion. Peter was used because a) Angela would then be able to help Linderman carry on with the plan and b) it would increase sympathy for Nathan in his Presidential campaigns. |
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| Angela may have [[clairvoyance]]. || None. || Angela's evasive answer to [[Claire]] indicates she may have a power. (''[[.07%]]'')<br /> |
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{{note}}When Nathan had his accident, Peter somehow knew about it the moment it happened. Since Peter's abilities are derived from people he knows or has met, he may have been tapping into her clairvoyance.<br /> |
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:{{minus}}Peter had a dream; it is more likely that his empathy connected with Nathan and he saw the accident through his point of view. He even mentions that he was connected with his brother, and explains to his mother how he was connected -- "No, I'm saying before the call. Like he was telling me, 300 miles away. I woke up, and I knew that he'd been hurt." (''[[Genesis]]'') |
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| Angela has the as-yet unexplained power of transportation. || None.|| {{plus}} Angela's evasive answer to [[Claire]] indicates she may have a power. (''[[.07%]]'')<br /> |
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{{plus}} She has possibly referred to the aspect of mental transportation by: 1) knowing Claire spit up bullets, 2) knowing about Peter and Nathan's powers before they did.<br /> |
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{{plus}} She has possibly referred to the aspect of physical transportation by: 1) talking about "taking Claire" to Paris. 2)<br /> |
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{{note}} Transportation could have both mental and physical applications, therefore allowing Angela to mentally transport into the minds/memories/dreams of others, as well as to physically transport from location to location similar to [[telekinesis]]. It could also be something along the lines of astral projection.<br /> |
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{{plus}} She implies that though it didn't seem like she was there for Claire, she was there in ways she might not understand.<br /> |
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:{{note}} It seems more likely that she was referring to how she was watching over Claire from a distance, such as by ordering the Haitian not to wipe her memory. |
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| Angela has the power of memory restoration. || None. || {{plus}} When [[Angela]] told [[Peter]] that he has to remember, he did so very quickly and accurately. He had been trying hard before but could not.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} It is more likely that Peter read Angela's memories of being Peter's mother, and thus learned who she was; the theme sound for Matt's telepathy was also playing in the background at the time. Also, Peter's telepathy is not limited to mind reading. He can control anything the brain controls - senses, actions, thoughts, and more.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Peter did not regain his memories beyond finding out that Angela was his mother; he did not know he had a brother, and he did not recognize Adam.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Angela might have only wanted to restore those memories, instead of restoring all of them.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Peter can regain his memories by [[rapid cell regeneration|healing]], so he would not need Angela to restore them. (''[[Four Months Ago]]'')<br /> |
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{{minus}} "Memory restoration" doesn't sound like a very practical ability; why would [[Adam]] want her to join [[the Company]] with such a useless power? |
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| Angela has [[persuasion]] (similar to [[Eden]])|| In '[[Out of Time]]' Angela tells [[Peter]] to remember who he is. Soon, he begins to remember Angela and finally realizes that she is his mother. || {{note}}Angela may need to be close to a person or touch them in order to do this.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} She convinced the police to drop the charges of shoplifting in ''[[Don't Look Back]]''.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Nathan got the police to drop the charges. As far as we saw, she did nothing but call her son and ask him to bail her out of trouble.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} When trying to convince Nathan to just let the explosion happen, she places her hands on his back. Moments later, he is agreeing with her, saying variations of exactly what she said. Later, when Peter reads Nathan's mind, he is thinking the same thing ("It can't be stopped.") over and over again.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} In '[[Four Months Ago]]', Angela is speaking with [[Heidi]]. During Angela's speech to her, she begins to touch her and even stroke Heidi's hair. In the scene, a lot that was shown was of Angela touching her, almost desperate in a way. Then, when she asks Heidi if she can count on her, she suddenly gives a almost hypnotized nod.<br /> |
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{{plus}}Angela was able to convince [[Nathan]] to go ahead with [[Linderman]]'s plans, but he changed his mind. Perhaps her power requires less effort than [[Eden]]'s (she doesn't have to use a deep voice), but is also easier to resist.<br /> |
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{{plus}} In ''[[The Kindness of Strangers]]'' Angela was able to convince the police, except [[Matt]], that she was the one who killed Kaito Nakamura.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Eden was able to convince Matt to eat donuts. If Angela has the same power as Eden, she would have been able to convince Matt that she was the killer.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Now that Matt has developed his power, he might be harder to convince.<br /> |
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:::{{plus}} Eden wanted Matt to physically do something, whilst Angela wanted Matt to mentally do something. As Bob says to Matt, everything the brain controls, he can control. Angela's power of persuasion, used to force a mental activity was countered by Matt's power over brain functions.<br /> |
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{{plus}} In '[[Out of Time]]' Angela forced Peter to remember when he could not.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} It is more likely that Peter read Angela's memories of being Peter's mother, and thus learned who she was; the theme sound for Matt's [[telepathy]] was also playing in the background at the time. <br /> |
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::{{plus}} The memories were from Peter's point of view. If he was reading her mind he would see from Angela's point of view.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Peter did not regain his memories beyond finding out that Angela was his mother; he did not know he had a brother, and he did not recognize Adam.<br /> |
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::{{plus}}In ''[[Four Months Ago]]'', [[Adam]] tells Peter that he can regain his memory by [[rapid cell regeneration|healing]], as Adam does, but he has to exert himself mentally to do this. Angela may have used persuasion only to force Peter to remember her, the relationship she most valued.<br /> |
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{{plus}} In ''[[Four Months Ago]]'', The camera seems to spend a little too much time focusing in on Angela's hand upon Heidi. This is up until she asks her if she can handle keeping Nathan's 'disease' a secret. Heidi agrees, and maybe instead of having to say something persuade them, all she needs is to merely touch them.<br /> |
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{{minus}} in ''[[Cautionary Tales]]'' she should have been able to more directly battle Matt's attempt to persuade her. She did resist, but this seemed to be more a matter of will-power than [[power]].<br /> |
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{{plus}}It seems that her persuasion is related to touching, and since she didn't touch Parkman, she couldn't persuade him.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The entire speculation that Angela has a power is based on the interview stating that she has one, but only Peter has displayed it on screen. With that in mind, shouldn't any evidence of Angela using a power on screen rule out that power as being hers? Just a thought... <br /> |
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{{plus}} Her power could be reverse-empathy/sympathy, which would look similar to persuasion. She is able to project her own emotions onto other people, letting them see things her way quicker. This falls in line with all the other points so far for persuasion. Also, in this way her power is similar to Peter's, but it works in reverse. |
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| Angela and Adam are Nathan's true parents.|| None. || {{plus}} All related characters have powers that are somewhat similar to their parents. For example, [[Matt]] and [[Maury Parkman]]. If Angela is an empath (as theorized above), [[Peter]] has special power empath abilities allowing him to absorb others' powers. Claire's power of regeneration possibly come from Adam (if it's a recessive gene). Nathan's power must come from Angela's side in an unexplained way.<br /> |
| Angela and Adam are Nathan's true parents.|| None. || {{plus}} All related characters have powers that are somewhat similar to their parents. For example, [[Matt]] and [[Maury Parkman]]. If Angela is an empath (as theorized above), [[Peter]] has special power empath abilities allowing him to absorb others' powers. Claire's power of regeneration possibly come from Adam (if it's a recessive gene). Nathan's power must come from Angela's side in an unexplained way.<br /> |
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:{{minus}}It's not true that all related characters have related powers. There was no example of this until Maury Parkman was introduced. For example, Niki has enhanced strength and D.L. could [[phase]], but they produced a child with [[technopathy]] (Micah).<br /> |
:{{minus}}It's not true that all related characters have related powers. There was no example of this until Maury Parkman was introduced. For example, Niki has enhanced strength and D.L. could [[phase]], but they produced a child with [[technopathy]] (Micah).<br /> |
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::{{note}}Nathan could easily be thirty (he, or Sylar posing as him, was President in ''[[Five Years Gone]]'' and without laws changing one must be thirty-five to become President). Unless Angela managed to sneak in and visit Adam in his cell, which seems very unlikely, he couldn't be Peter's father, but as long as Nathan was born before Adam was locked up for nine months, Adam could be his father.<br /> |
::{{note}}Nathan could easily be thirty (he, or Sylar posing as him, was President in ''[[Five Years Gone]]'' and without laws changing one must be thirty-five to become President). Unless Angela managed to sneak in and visit Adam in his cell, which seems very unlikely, he couldn't be Peter's father, but as long as Nathan was born before Adam was locked up for nine months, Adam could be his father.<br /> |
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:{{minus}}The real father of the Peter and Nathan was pointed out in the photo of the company in season 2. |
:{{minus}}The real father of the Peter and Nathan was pointed out in the photo of the company in season 2. |
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| [[Angela]] has super strength. || None. || {{plus}}Angela could have super strength like [[Niki Sanders]], only she does not need to contact an alternate personality to access it.<br /> |
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:{{minus}}Niki does ''not'' need to contact an alternate personality to use her strength. It's just that Jessica uses it more often. Niki's MPD is a result of abuse when she was young, and has nothing to do with her powers.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Angela has never displayed any evidence of having super strength.<br /> |
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:{{note}} She has never displayed evidence of ''any'' ability. |
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|[[Angela Petrelli]] is not good. || None. || {{plus}} In ''[[Truth & Consequences]]'', [[Victoria]] tells [[Peter]], "[[Adam]]'s a murderer, and since you're helping him, you're one too... Just like your parents."<br /> |
|[[Angela Petrelli]] is not good. || None. || {{plus}} In ''[[Truth & Consequences]]'', [[Victoria]] tells [[Peter]], "[[Adam]]'s a murderer, and since you're helping him, you're one too... Just like your parents."<br /> |
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{{plus}} Angela contributed to [[Linderman|Linderman's]] plan.<br /> |
{{plus}} Angela contributed to [[Linderman|Linderman's]] plan.<br /> |
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{{note}} This is a very ambiguous theory - many characters can be considered [[morally gray]], and it can be argued that Angela has traits of good and evil. |
{{note}} This is a very ambiguous theory - many characters can be considered [[morally gray]], and it can be argued that Angela has traits of good and evil. |
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|Angela has the ability to steal socks. || She was arrested for stealing socks. (''[[Genesis]]'') || {{note}}Her ability may not be a stealthy one, as she was caught using it. |
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{{plus}} This is a very popular power. {{minus}} This is not actually a "superpower". |
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| [[Angela Petrelli]] has the ability to sense the abilities of others. || None || {{plus}} In .07% She tells Nathan and Peter That she knew about their abilities before they did. <br> {{plus}} In Lizard, She tells Matt Parkman to get out of her head, seeming not to be surprised at the display of Matt's power. |
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| [[Angela Petrelli]] is not really Sylar's mother. ||None|| {{Plus}} Sylar and Peter being related seems too convinient and makes for a weak twist.<br/> |
| [[Angela Petrelli]] is not really Sylar's mother. ||None|| {{Plus}} Sylar and Peter being related seems too convinient and makes for a weak twist.<br/> |
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| Angela and Adam are Nathan's true parents. | None. | + All related characters have powers that are somewhat similar to their parents. For example, Matt and Maury Parkman. If Angela is an empath (as theorized above), Peter has special power empath abilities allowing him to absorb others' powers. Claire's power of regeneration possibly come from Adam (if it's a recessive gene). Nathan's power must come from Angela's side in an unexplained way.
- In Four Months Ago, Adam tells Peter he's been locked up for 30 years. Peter is in his mid-20's, and Nathan isn't much older. This makes it highly unlikely that Adam is their father.
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| Angela Petrelli is not good. | None. | + In Truth & Consequences, Victoria tells Peter, "Adam's a murderer, and since you're helping him, you're one too... Just like your parents." + At the end of Powerless, Angela appears to be talking to the person who shot Nathan, or someone involved in the shooting. |
| Angela Petrelli is not really Sylar's mother. | None | + Sylar and Peter being related seems too convinient and makes for a weak twist. + Sylar once stated that as a child, he wished someone would tell him that his parents weren't really his parents. This may have been on Sylars file, which Angela had access to. Sylar would want to believe that someone else in his family has a power. |
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