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Talk:Luke's ability
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Power
My guess is that it has something to do with solar energy. -Lөvөl 22:08, 8 October 2015 (EDT)
- Yeah, it does seem like he's mimicking aspects of the sun, but this is a good place to start until we get some more concrete/canonical info. Like many I'm not a fan of Soandso's ability pages, however speculative ability names without any canonical backing I loathe even more. (Admin (talk) 22:34, 8 October 2015 (EDT))
- Agree. And as a major character, we are going to learn a ton more about his ability ... Our learning curve will probably match Luke's learning curve as we will learn along with him about his power. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:42, 9 October 2015 (EDT)
- I believe his ability is http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Solar_Energy_Absorption maybe combined with just a bit of http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Plasma_Attacks and maybe heat irradiation
- Solar mimicry? Solarkinesis? Solar manipulation? Solar absorption? We'll wait until we get more info obviously, but just throwing some names out there. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 13:32, 9 October 2015 (EDT)
- My first thought after this week's episode was "solar mimicry". Definitely not "solarkinesis" or "solar manipulation" since he's not moving or manipulating the sun. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:10, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
- Am I the only person who thought this ability is induced radioactivity? The glow is similar, Luke had the same "boiling the glass of water" scene as Ted. Everything he's done so far checks with IR. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:42, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
- I think a lot of us did after Under the Mask. But there are a few differences. The glow is different -- his hand really does look like the surface of the sun. But a different glow isn't enough to be a different ability (see pyrokinesis). I'm glad they brought back the boiling glass of water that Ted did (which was originally a scene from the Engineer in the unaired pilot). But the biggest difference is that Luke's ability is powered by the sun. I know the Sun produces radioactivity ... and it may turn out that these two abilities are the same, but until we know that, we can't assume that they are the same. Ultimately, I see two reasons why this should be separated from induced radioactivity at this point: the writers have been purposely ambiguous about what the power is (as Luke discovers it, so does the audience), and the writers have been purposely deliberate about linking the power to the Sun. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:31, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
- I believe his ability is Solar Energy absorbtion and Projection, [[1]] , I suppose that is the closest thing to what has been shown on the show. User:NiopTres/sig 14:32, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
- I think a lot of us did after Under the Mask. But there are a few differences. The glow is different -- his hand really does look like the surface of the sun. But a different glow isn't enough to be a different ability (see pyrokinesis). I'm glad they brought back the boiling glass of water that Ted did (which was originally a scene from the Engineer in the unaired pilot). But the biggest difference is that Luke's ability is powered by the sun. I know the Sun produces radioactivity ... and it may turn out that these two abilities are the same, but until we know that, we can't assume that they are the same. Ultimately, I see two reasons why this should be separated from induced radioactivity at this point: the writers have been purposely ambiguous about what the power is (as Luke discovers it, so does the audience), and the writers have been purposely deliberate about linking the power to the Sun. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:31, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
- Am I the only person who thought this ability is induced radioactivity? The glow is similar, Luke had the same "boiling the glass of water" scene as Ted. Everything he's done so far checks with IR. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:42, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
- My first thought after this week's episode was "solar mimicry". Definitely not "solarkinesis" or "solar manipulation" since he's not moving or manipulating the sun. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:10, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
- I remember that Luke used his ability to show Malina that he was an Evo and therefore not a threat to her, but I don't remember exactly what he did. Seems like he used it on a vending machine. Anyone record it? --Ted C (talk) 15:16, 2 November 2015 (EST)
Solar Beam Projection?
is a good descriptive name. He doesn't actually absorb the solar energy since the power doesn't work at night. Sandubadear (talk) 17:13, 10 January 2016 (EST)
- I'm thinking that Luke's ability is more solar mimicry than solar projection, as I think he is able to use his ability indoors and he also can create electromagnetic sparks.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:57, 10 January 2016 (EST)
- I agree with Miami. I think "solar mimicry" is a great name for Luke's ability. And after this week's comment that he can't function without the sun, I think it's time to make the change. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:38, 11 January 2016 (EST)
- It's not only solar mimicry, as Luke is able to emit sparks, which is not part of the sun's properties. --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 10:05, 11 January 2016 (EST)
- I can't remember the electromagnetism scenes but sparks might be caused by the grease on his hands reacting to getting heated up.--Sekobro (talk) 10:43, 11 January 2016 (EST)
- The sun is Plasma, Plasma can be either fire or Electricty. Thus sparks--NiopTres (talk) 11:40, 11 January 2016 (EST)
- The "spark" scene is when Luke tries to switch off the radio in Noah Bennet's car. All the car is out of order because of this spark (Under the Mask). And yes, you're right about electricity because of the ionizing radiation. --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 13:58, 11 January 2016 (EST)
- I recall a different sparks scene with the vending machine when Luke has just recently met Malina and she's just saved him from drowning (so I think that shows he can spark both when his hands are greased and also when they are not so greased). Also, the solar wind emitted from the sun can "enter the atmosphere and electrify the air, creating pathways for lightning bolts" (per Wikipedia:Lightning#Solar wind and cosmic rays).--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:25, 11 January 2016 (EST)
- So "Solar Beam Emission" then, I guess. I have no problems with "Solar Mimicry" if everyone else agrees, but I like Solar Beam Emission more. Sandubadear (talk) 19:11, 12 January 2016 (EST)
- I still prefer "solar mimicry". Everything Luke has been able to do has been because he mimics the sun and its properties in some form or another. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:49, 13 January 2016 (EST)
- Solar mimicry is my preference as well. --Snow Leapord (talk) 21:18, 14 January 2016 (EST)
- As well for me. --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 11:31, 15 January 2016 (EST)
- That sounds good to me.--Cro Magnon (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2016 (EST)
- So "Solar Beam Emission" then, I guess. I have no problems with "Solar Mimicry" if everyone else agrees, but I like Solar Beam Emission more. Sandubadear (talk) 19:11, 12 January 2016 (EST)
- I'm opposed to solar mimicry. It suggests that he replicates processes inside the sun, without having a connection to the sun itself. If that were the case, his ability would still work during the night. It's pretty clear to me he's not replicating the sun, he's using the sun as a power source. I would propose the name solar channeling then. He channels the power of the sun to do stuff (fire heat beams, etc).--Potatoes (talk) 15:08, 15 January 2016 (EST)
- Actually, I agree. "Solar channeling" is a much more accurate name. I had never heard or thought of that. I am fully in favor of "solar channeling". -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:43, 15 January 2016 (EST)
- I think the meaning of whether it is day or night is normally defined by whether the sun is normally shining on a portion of the Earth during that time (day is normally the period between sunrise and sunset for a given surface portion of the Earth), so I think Luke not being able to use his ability at night IS replicating an aspect of the sun. Also, I disagree that "solar channeling" is a more accurate name... Besides plants also being solar channel-ers of sorts by channeling sunlight for photosynthesis, I'm not sure Luke is channeling sunlight at all... I am thinking it might just be that he needs to sense sunlight to perform mimicry of the sun--not that the sun's rays need to directly strike him (when he sets his son Dennis's room on fire in The Lion's Den, it's not night but I think the curtains are closed such that sunlight enters only through their material).--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:08, 15 January 2016 (EST)
- "Mimicking," as I understand it, means replicating the properties of something without needing a link to that thing. Water mimicry allows the evo to become water-like, but he or she doesn't need water around to use this ability. Metal mimicry changes the properties of the evo's skin to be similar to metal, but again, there's no connection to actual metal. The evo doesn't need to be in contact with metal or anything like that to mimic metal. Solar mimicry implies Luke can behave like the sun (emit light and heat) without actually needing the sun, which is strongly contradicted by canon. While it's true that this limit to his ability might be psychological (he only needs to think it's day to mimic the sun), that's speculative and if anything the shows seems to indicate the absorbs light in some manner, since his skins glows when exposed to bright sunlight. Solar channeling describes exactly that: Luke absorbs (but doesn't store, this is important) sunlight then immediately redirects it to shoot heat rays or whatever. As for photosynthesis being a form of solar channeling: Sure, that's correct, and luminescence is also a biological process and illusion can be just a magic trick. Precedent is that ability names that could refer to ordinary things aren't necessarily forbidden. As for using his ability indoors: When he burned his son's room, it was a minimal use of his ability. He only ignated a small fire that later grew on his own. This is consistent with the minimal sunlight entering the room. --Potatoes (talk) 16:48, 17 January 2016 (EST)
- It's not only solar mimicry, as Luke is able to emit sparks, which is not part of the sun's properties. --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 10:05, 11 January 2016 (EST)
- I agree with Miami. I think "solar mimicry" is a great name for Luke's ability. And after this week's comment that he can't function without the sun, I think it's time to make the change. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:38, 11 January 2016 (EST)