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Hurry up new GN pic for Main Page promo

Man, that picture of Ugly Betty starring you down on the main page needs to hurry up and go! Yuucchhh!!! I'd much rather see Jason Badower's drawings of Hana from (The Death of Hana Gitelman, Part 1 or 2) !! --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 06/29/2007 15:46 (EST)

• And that's only Part 1! Let's hope she turns into her future form quickly in Part 2! (Admin 15:49, 29 June 2007 (EDT))
  • In Part 2 there won't be any hints of her future form, but she will change her look quite a bit. Just look for her to try to fit in a bit. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:49, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

possible look change?

Dunno where to discus this or how much sense It'll make but here goes: I think This site needs to have a look that is significantly different than the default carbon-copy-of-Wikipedia look. reasons: 1) Aside from the comic book cover logo, the site looks exactly like Wikipedia. I recreationally browse both here and there, and at times forget where I am at because of the same look for both sites. I realize this when I go to look up something, say lemons, and find no articles here on lemons. If it were similar to, say Memory Alpha, in that it does not look like Wikipedia with a logo change, this might be avoided. 2) It looks to sterile for a cool show such as Heroes. Am I right or is it just me?--SacValleyDweller 17:49, 2 September 2007 (EDT)

• Last I heard, Admin is still open to add/reviewing new skins, that's what really controls the layout. When I checked it out before, it looked a bit complicated to make one, and Admin himself has to add it (you have to e-mail the file to him, I think). That said, there are already several skins in the options. You can change what skin you use by changing your preferences.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:11, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
  • Ok, how do you make a skin for this and what can be done to make it the default for everyone?--SacValleyDweller 18:36, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
    • You can read the main help on skins at Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Skin and examples of other skins at Wikipedia:Meta:Gallery_of_user_styles. That should get you started.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:49, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
      • Personally, I like the skin we have, and wouldn't want a different one to be my default. However, I think it'd be cool if somebody wanted to do a test to redesign the main page to look a little more like a comic book. Maybe take a cue from the inside of the new DVD with panels that overlap, perhaps add some text bubbles. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:10, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
• Yes, I'm still open to a new default skin or changing the default colors of the current skin somewhat. Regardless I'd make sure the old unchanged skin was still available for selection. It's a bit of work to create a new skin, so what I'd suggest is if someone's skilled at it they come up with some conceptual drawings of what the new skin would look like and present them here for feedback prior to actually implementing the skin. (Admin 20:18, 2 September 2007 (EDT))
  • I'm not too familiar with the coding, but I'll help with whatever needs to be done (I'll just have to look at some examples done to get a feel for it). So if someone does have an idea, I'll be more than willing to help knock out some code for it. I used to do a lot of HTML coding in high school.--Bob 20:41, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
    • Wikipedia:Meta:Gallery_of_user_styles has some good examples of what can be done... the internal coding looks to be in PHP language. I've done some PHP coding but I'm not good at it yet.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:43, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
      • I had a PHP class last semester, so I can use my text to help out with that (I got pretty good towards the end of the class).--Bob 22:55, 2 September 2007 (EDT)
      • Taking a look at that link, this one looks prety good, something like that would look nice, perhapse with a color like the 9thwonders.com background--SacValleyDweller 01:24, 3 September 2007 (EDT)
• What I did to tell the difference is download this thing called Stylish, and then got a new userstyle for Wikipedia. As far as I know, however, it only works on Firefox. Its a pretty good short-term solution. As for a new look, I'm pretty good with graphics, so if you guys want a new logo or anything like that, leave me a post on my page or something. I'd love to help out. --Avenger 05:11, 22 October 2007 (EDT)

Season Two Characters

• Aren't Takezo (David Anders) and Monica (Dana Davis) going to be 3 of the two new main characters, along with Maya? Theres Sylar, Ando, MAya, Monica and Kensai. Right? Or am i wrong. o.O So confused... lol. P.S. MAth B sucks! Jason Garrick 15:46, 30 September 2007 (EDT)
  • David Anders was not credited with the Principal Cast in Four Months Later. Dana Davis hasn't appeared yet, and neither has Sylar, so we have no actual confirmation about whether they are "officially" regulars or not.--Hardvice (talk) 16:06, 30 September 2007 (EDT)

appearance in different browsers

Something curious I noticed today about the difference in appearance of the main page in Firefox and Internet Explorer 7. We are square in IE 7, but well rounded in Firefox. :) --SacValleyDweller 19:25, 8 October 2007 (EDT)

• It's a problem we're working on. See here and here to read a little bit of our disjointed discussion about the issue. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:35, 8 October 2007 (EDT)
  • I don't believe thats a problem. Its just the different rendering software used in Firefox. Firefox tends to make alot of graphical changes to pages. So yeah, thats not a site problem. Just a feature of The Fox.--Avenger 05:11, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
  • The fix ends up being more trouble than it's worth for something so minor as rounded corners. I'm just glad that's essentially the extent that IE7 mangles the site. If anyone using IE7 wants the rounded corners, there's a simple solution... and links to that simple solution all the way at the bottom of this page. (Admin 09:20, 22 October 2007 (EDT))

Newest articles special page?

I like seeing the number of articles on our little site grow, but I would like to see the newest ones that qualify as content. Is there any way to see that, or any work on making that possible, similar to as seen on is on Wikipedia?--SacValleyDweller 01:25, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

• Special:newpages. Is that what you're looking for? I find it to be really nice because I can specify the namespace. For instance, I periodically check to see if there are any new theory pages, since they sometimes are neglected from being added to the theory portals. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:30, 28 October 2007 (EDT)
  • Ah! thank you!--SacValleyDweller 01:48, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

"Article of the week"

Our "article of the week" is not really an article of the week. It's really just the latest episode, and probably always will be. To match "Latest Graphic Novel", I think we should change the heading to "Latest Episode". Any objections? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:25, 16 November 2007 (EST)

• I think we should still have an "Article of the week", though adding a subtitle such as: "Article of the Week: Latest Episode" is a good idea, imho.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:20, 16 November 2007 (EST)
  • That seems unnecessarily bulky to me. I'd rather one or the other. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:28, 16 November 2007 (EST)
    • Ok, how about one in the header and the other in the body?--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:48, 17 November 2007 (EST)
      • Why? It's either the article of the week or it's the latest episode. Personally, since we've generally only shown the episode or graphic novel there, I think that's what it should be. It's not really the article of the week, which implies that we're pulling from a much larger pool of articles, and that's the one that was chosen. Also, many other sites have an article of the week which is voted upon--that's not the case with us, and I would hate to mislead anybody. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:04, 17 November 2007 (EST)
• I thought about that a while ago. I say rename it to "Latest Episode" like you suggest. If we ever do start using it for anything else we can always rename it very easily. (Admin 22:30, 16 November 2007 (EST))
• One question: what happens in a couple weeks when we have neither new episodes nor new GNs? Or are they getting non-TV writers to do the GNs like they did for the summer?--Hardvice (talk) 22:31, 16 November 2007 (EST)
  • I haven't heard anything. I don't know what to do if we have no new content, that'll be a first. I suppose for the main page we could actually do an article of the week. As for everything else, I'm going to catch up on my sleep. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:36, 16 November 2007 (EST)
    • I agree--SacValleyDweller (talk) 22:41, 16 November 2007 (EST)
      • I'm not sure they're hiring any new GN writers like they did for the summer. According to Jason Badower's blog, Jason was contacted about drawing/coloring for the GN after the eleventh episode, but the GN was pulled when the writer (who is on strike), asked for it to be pulled. Jason also mentioned that the writer had an artist friend in mind to do the drawing. Also, the producer Tim Kring is on strike, so is unavailable to vet new GN scripts, so it's not like they can just hire outside writers. As far as I know, NBC isn't yet suing its show-runners/producers to get them back on the job (CBS is, though...). My recommendation is that since there is no new episode or GN, that we should cover the strike in "Article of the Week". I think the writers, producers and actors would appreciate the solidarity from the fans. Since we are just *fans*, it can be an objective take summarizing both sides. Anyways, that's my suggestion.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:20, 16 November 2007 (EST)
        • As much as I support the writers, I don't want our main article to be about the strike, but rather about an element of the Heroes world. Our site specializes in chronicling the details of the show, and that's what people come here for. If people want news about the strike, I doubt they'll come here, nor do I want to have us trying to pass ourselves off as such a site. It's a very nice gesture, and I like the sentiment, but I think we should play to our strengths. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:28, 16 November 2007 (EST)
          • There wouldn't be a Heroes world without both the writers and the networks, but I understand if it is decided not to cover it in the "article of the week". If we go the "feature article" route, could we vote on what article to feature for each week? There's also the "do-nothing" option, in which we keep the same article of the week until a new episode or graphic novel is released: that seems to be the de-facto option that we've gone with in the past.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:42, 16 November 2007 (EST)
            • That is what we've done in the past, but I think it might be nice to actually have an article of the week, at least to test it out. A vote would be a fantastic idea. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:59, 16 November 2007 (EST)
              • It would also be a good reason to give some of the older articles a very thorough examination and polish.--Hardvice (talk) 00:56, 19 November 2007 (EST)
                • Brain removal and Sylar's victims immediately come to mind as articles that just don't seem in sync with the rest of the site. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:00, 19 November 2007 (EST)
• However, for the moment, while it is just an episode every week, "Latest Episode" is the best bet. I don't remember how it was handled in the summer (or last season's hiatus, since I wasn't here), but, it can easily be changed from "Latest Episode" to "Article of the Week" when we actually have an article that isn't an episode. Lulu 23:25, 16 November 2007 (EST)
  • I agree; the title can be changed as needed. It makes more sense to have it say "Latest Episode" right now, though, since, well, that's what it is. Incidentally, over the summer and hiatuses, the article of the week was the graphic novel. There were one or two weeks where there was neither a graphic novel nor an episode, and we just left whatever we had on there for an extra week. (I believe it was before Wireless, Part 1, sometime around Christmas.) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:32, 16 November 2007 (EST)
    • Why can't there be a Latest Episode and an AOTW too?--Citizen 22:04, 18 November 2007 (EST)
      • There can be. My issue is not the content, it's the title. We don't have an article of the week right now, we have the latest episode, so I'd like to change the title of that section. If we'd like to add a real AOTW, I think it's a fine idea. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:07, 18 November 2007 (EST)
        • I'm for creating a "Last Episode Aired" template, and having the AOTW change with each week, even if there's episodes aired. We might need to tweak the main page though. Though adding a short AOTW template over/under it would allow for us to use all of the trivia and balance the main page.--Bob (talk) 02:23, 19 November 2007 (EST)
• Changed "Article of the Week" title to to to "Latest Episode"--SacValleyDweller (talk) 02:19, 19 November 2007 (EST)
  • I still think we should have a regular Article of the Week as well. --Hero!^(talk)_(contribs) 14:13, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Removal of episode summary on "Next on Heroes"

"Next on Heroes" should really be just the title of the next episode as well as the time and date with a link towards the summary and spoiler page. (Somewhat like the graphic novel) The summary seems mostly like a spoiler sitting right on the front page! (Whenever I enter the heroes wiki I try my hardest not to look at the summary so as not to know what will happen in the next episode!)

ps: sorry if this has been discussed before...--Tacbaf 10:34, 20 November 2007 (EST)

• I think we could put the summary in a collapsible collapsed table... would that be okay?--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:56, 20 November 2007 (EST)
  • Personally, I like that we use NBC's summary, because it doesn't reveal a lot. You essentially get a small recap of what was aired after the episode when they show clips from next week's ep. The idea of collapsible table on the main page would look weird and slow down load time.--Bob (talk) 12:17, 20 November 2007 (EST)
    • I personally think that one of the strong points of heroes is the suspense of what will happen next. Stating what each character is going to do gives some of that away (and thats why i also don't see the scenes from the next episodes). Besides the fact that anyone that hasn't see the latest aired episode can't even visit this wiki cause of the summary's. The front page shouldn't be a trap to those not up to date on the episodes, it should be an area accesible to anyone watching or interested in watching heroes. --Tacbaf 11:32, 22 November 2007 (EST)