Talk:Peter Petrelli

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Persuasion

• When Peter shouted "Don't lie to me" at Isaac, his voiced sounded somewhat distorted like Eden's when she used persuasion. Peter did meet Eden briefly in "Collision" but he didn't know that she had an ability, which means he shouldn't have been able to call out the power. But could he have done it unknowingly? After all what he said to Isaac was a command. FlyingMan 23:31, 19 February 2007 (EST)
  • BTW, has anyone gone back to see when Peter was first meeting with Eden whether or not Peter had come in contact with her? Bkdelong 12:44, 20 February 2007 (EST)
  • Remember, Sylar had this voice as well, so it might come from his anger mixed with the TK or something.--Riddler 23:32, 19 February 2007 (EST)
    • No - the producers already said that Sylar's voice was the result of the SCENE purposely being slowed down and Mrs. Bennet seeing sylar from her perspective. Bkdelong 12:44, 20 February 2007 (EST)
  • My guess is that he needs to know of the ability in order to use it. Then again, if his genes are reorganizing themselves based on just being near a person, he technically wouldn't. But how would he call out the power if he didn't know it was there? With the others he's duped, he saw them in action. --ZyberGoat 00:20, 20 February 2007 (EST)
  • I personally don't think he was using any form of persuasion, I think Peter's voice was just another decision to make it more dramatic like they did with Sylar. (Admin 12:47, 20 February 2007 (EST))
• Aside from the dream, he never saw Nathan fly before he started to do it... and he didn't know specifically what Sylars power was... nor did he ever know what Claire's power was til he asked her "You're a healer, aren't you?". :P --Riddler 00:21, 20 February 2007 (EST)
  • • Actually, I believe Peter and Nathan did fly together in one of the early episodes...Peter jumps off the building, and Nathan swoops down and grabs Peter's ankle before he hits, and they 'fly together' until they safely land. The only consistency I have observed, is that Peter is in the presence of a power when it is 'executed'. Claire healed herself in Peter's presence in the school, Sylar used TK in Peter's presence in the School, Hiro used S-T in Peter's presence on the subway, Claude used Inviso in Peter's presence on the street, Matt use telepathy in Peter's presence at the police station, Isaac painted precog in Peter's presence in the loft, etc. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 02:03, 20 February 2007 (EST)
      • Peter only was close to Isaac while he was overdosed, then demonstrated the precognitive abilities before he witnessed Isaac painting the future. --Bob 2100, 21 Feb 07 (CST)
        • However, he was close to Isaac when Isaac was painting-- just outside the door, with Mohinder. Maybe that was close enough, if indeed proximity during execution is necessary for Peter to learn special abilities? Rwun 01:46, 27 February 2007 (EST)
• But he first sketched the future in Don't Look Back. He didn't visit Isaac with Mohinder until Collision.--Hardvice (talk) 01:57, 27 February 2007 (EST)
  • It seems his instincts are starting to take form in his survival/emotions, whereas he's still trying to make the choice of using his powers. - User:Baldbobbo - 19 Feb 2007 23:26 CST
  • It really depends on how you evaluate the response. Peter told Isaac to stop lying to him. Did that happen? To my recollection, Peter looked at the painting of Simone and Isaac and asked if that's why he did it and Isaac yelled, "You stole her from me!" blah blah yadda yadda yadda bang bang glurg. It's hard to say if the response was truthful because Peter said so, or because Isaac got the wrong button pushed. Hakkun 03:17, 21 February 2007 (EST)
    • My guess--the only reason they distorted Peter's voice there is that Milo's real voice just doesn't sound scary enough.--E rowe 10:02, 21 February 2007 (EST)
      • The effect they used to change his voice is also completely different than the one they used for Eden's persuasion. I agree, I think it was totally for dramatic effect. (Admin 10:12, 21 February 2007 (EST))

Though I don't believe that Peter demonstrated Eden's ability, I think it would be safe to say he did, however, acquire this ability from at the least making physical contact with her (something he has not needed to do in order to acquire an ability). But if he did, would that make him the first Jedi? :-D --Bob 21:00, 21 Feb 07 (CST)

• We learned in The Hard Part that Peter absorbs powers from people around him, even if they do not use the power in front of him (Ted) ... So that means he absorbed Eden's power for sure, the question is did he mimic it ? I believe he did when he easly conviced Mohinder to follow him around, only for him to suddenly change his mind later on, like if he stopped using persuasion ... What do you guys think ? It makes sense, especially if you concider Peter always used a power quite soon after absorbing it IIRC (Peter's first drawing, Reading Matt's mind, His hands glowing after absorbing Ted's etc.) --LeoChris 13:24, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
  • You're right, it makes perfect sense that he has the power. He may have even used it, but there's no clear example of it. Every time Eden used the power, there was a special voice effect that accompanied it--I've never heard that for Peter. I'd say we just have to wait until there's a cut-and-dry example. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:49, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

Clarification

I know it's wrote upper in this same page but it has to be said again! People don't get it!! And it doesn't belong to the spoiler page anymore ? Aren't we in April ? So... I thought about it because an edit has been considered as speculation but it isn't, no ?? We should also update the power mimicked section...

• Writer Joe Pokaski confirmed in the March 2007 Wizard World Q&A session (with Tim Kring present), that only being in the presence of Sylar gives Peter all of his powers. (Whether they are actually used or not). This means that as of the meeting between Sylar and Peter in (Parasite), Peter now can be confirmed to have absorbed these additional powers: (even though he may not be aware he now has them)

Cryokinesis (from Sylar in Homecoming)

Enhanced hearing (from Sylar in Parasite)

Enhanced memory (from Sylar in Homecoming)

Intuitive aptitude (from Sylar in Homecoming)

Liquefaction (from Sylar in Parasite)

Mental manipulation (from the Haitian in Unexpected)

Persuasion (from Eden in Collision)

(NBC.com)

-- FrenchFlo (talk)        17:23, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

• • Yes, it's completely sound reasoning, and yes, it's confirmed in an interview. But since it hasn't been confirmed in an episode, it needs to be confined to Notes or to theories articles. As for the "Powers mimicked" section ... well, since he hasn't actually used any of them yet, he hasn't mimicked them ... even though he has been exposed to them and could mimic them. They're not really "spoilers" per se, but each of those powers isn't "confirmed" until Peter actually uses them.--Hardvice (talk) 17:32, 26 April 2007 (EDT)
    • We do not regard interviews as primary sources, and we only put information from primary sources in the main articles. Consequently, even though Joe Pokaski says that Peter has all these powers, none of them are confirmed until he actually uses them in a televised episode or in one of the online comics. --Ted C 17:34, 26 April 2007 (EDT)
      • Ok I can go to sleep smarter now! Thanks for the clarification. It helps. See ya gn8 :p -- FrenchFlo (talk)        17:36, 26 April 2007 (EDT)
      • Confirmation of the interview answer became "canon" when Peter's hands became radioactive when meeting Ted in The Hard Part. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 05/8/2007 23:17 (EST)
        • That confirms that he can mimic abilities without seeing them used. That still doesn't change the fact that he has yet to mimic any of the above abilities, so they still don't belong in a section labeled "powers mimicked".--Hardvice (talk) 03:49, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

Peter's Fire ability?

take a look at this video of episode Five Years Gone At around 8:20 you can see peter and sylar starts fighting...and sylar summons his ice,then peter says "fire" and red firey hands. I think he might have got it from claire's mom.

• Could be induced radioactivity, can't tell exactly. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:13, 3 May 2007 (EDT)
  • For more explanation, check out here. -- FrenchFlo (talk)        17:16, 3 May 2007 (EDT)
    • It looks like fire, but just brighter. I don't think it's anything unusual.--Ice Vision 17:27, 3 May 2007 (EDT)
      • He says 'liar', not 'fire'. OUChevelleSS 22:46, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

You know how Peter has to "remember" someone to use their power?

Well... don't you think Charlie...erm...Sylar's eidetic memory would serve as a NICE way to remember every person he meets? Imagine in the future in cases such as Walls, where he meets many people, with eidetic memory, he could harness so much power, even if he only met the person for a minute. Hehe, fun speculation.--Riddler 17:26, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

• That's very true. However, I don't know if he needs to remember everyone, because he performed telekinesis without even knowing he could or who had done it at first.OUChevelleSS 19:32, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

Postcognition?

Can we say now that Peter has at least both precognition and postcognition? Do we want to call this something else now? Dreamcognition? Astral projection might fit since he was able to talk with Charles while dreaming, but I don't know if we're ready to call it that yet until he talks to someone else besides Charles in his dreams.--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:22, 22 May 2007 (EDT)