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Episode name

Was this changed to 'Duality' at some point? Imdb lists it as 'War,' and I could've sworn a comment in a BTE interview did as well. --Stevehim 17:45, 30 November 2008 (EST)

• Apparently it was; I remember seeing the move in the recent changes at one point... I believe it was RGS who made the move, you could ask him why it was changed. I would like to know why myself. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 17:48, 30 November 2008 (EST)
  • As per [the official press release] --Pierre 17:55, 30 November 2008 (EST)
  • Josh made the move. NBC's information is usually more accurate than IMDb, which is essentially a fan-contributed resource, somewhat like Heroes Wiki, but with tighter restrictions and administration. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:17, 30 November 2008 (EST)
    • Agreed. I was more using it as a backup source to the BTE interview, but it looks like they decided to change it, for whatever reason. --Stevehim 18:21, 30 November 2008 (EST)
      • Aaand it was changed again. Any reason why they keep changing it? Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 18:46, 3 December 2008 (EST)

Aron Coleite and Joe Pokaski said on the 10th Wonder Podcast that they have seen four different titles for this: War, Duality, Dual, and Duel. - Tristan0709 17:19, 7 December 2008 (EST)

• I guess they decided on the fourth now. Next they'll be changing it to like, Mr. Muggles goes to War or something. - Tristan0709 18:22, 11 December 2008 (EST)
  • I'm still waiting on Duality Duel: Dual War.--Crazylicious 19:55, 11 December 2008 (EST)

It was "Dual" in the episode. Mike 22:08, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Final Scene

Barack Obama bitches!!! Ha! --Dumpster juice 22:02, 15 December 2008 (EST)

• Was it REALLY!? --DarkPhoenix 22:03, 15 December 2008 (EST)
  • Haha, I think it was meant to be. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:04, 15 December 2008 (EST)
• No, think of the timeline that Heroes is set in, plus the fact that he looked nothing like Obama (other than skin color). Bloodbath 22:06, 15 December 2008 (EST)
  • Since when has Heroes kept to the very letter of their own timeline? They've been inconsistent before. Even if the character isn't actually Barack Obama, I'm fairly certain he was a nod to our President-elect, considering the proximity of this episode's airing to the recent election. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:19, 15 December 2008 (EST)
    • Probably a nod, yes, but I don't think it was supposed to be him...Bloodbath 22:25, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Apparently he was played by Michael Dorn - Tristan0709 talk 22:20, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Sylar

How do you think he survived this time? Bloodbath 22:07, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Ha, good question. Mike 22:08, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Peter and the formula?

Now in the article on Peter it says his ability is flight. Should it be listed as such, or should it be empathic mimicry, since we know that is his power? I know that it's disputable since we can't know if the formula gave him flight or simply restored his mimicry... Mike 22:10, 15 December 2008 (EST)

• Empathic mimicry is in his DNA, isn't it? I think we should say that he got it back and mimicked flight. I started a discussion about this on his talk page. Bloodbath 22:12, 15 December 2008 (EST)

• I agree. However, until he demonstrates another ability (i.e. Suresh's ability or Flint's ability), then he's only really shown flight. Jrrenola 22:15, 15 December 2008 (EST)
  • It just seems unlikely that he would be given flight of all abilities right then. Bloodbath 22:19, 15 December 2008 (EST)

• He seemed fully healed in the clearing at the end. --Fmorel90 22:25, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Flint's scar

Is it just me, or was Flint's scar in the shape of the symbol? Bloodbath 22:16, 15 December 2008 (EST)

• Yep I saw that too. - Mike N. 22:17, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Deaths: Confirmable and non-

Let's see... Knox is dead... Doyle? Flint? Meredith? Sylar? (doubt Sylar - he'll get out somehow)... Opinions? Mike 22:22, 15 December 2008 (EST)

• Doyle isn't dead. He could have gotten up and stumbled out of Primatech. It's not like he got his throat slashed or arm ripped off. Meredith has "exploded" before. She may have survived. Sylar is dead until a shard of glass is removed probably by an autopsy person like Claire and a tree branch...and you forgot Pine and Echo. -- Cael 22:25, 15 December 2008 (EST)
  • You can't say for certain that Doyle isn't dead. Especially considering that he was left in visibly bad shape after Sylar messed with him. And... not to mention the building kind of... exploded... and fell on him... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:27, 15 December 2008 (EST)
    • But we can't say he definitely is dead. The building didn't instantaneously explode right after that happened. Time passed and he could have recuperated enough to stumble out. Besides things I won't mention, a Niki situation would have to occur for him to be dead, and even then we would have to wait. -- Cael 22:34, 15 December 2008 (EST)
      • I don't think anyone ever said he definitely was dead... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:35, 15 December 2008 (EST)
        • Doyle, Flint, Meredith, maybe even Pine (was he seen, aside from his arm?) all could have escaped in the magical way Mohinder did. I'm not positive there wasn't some small time delay (a few minutes) that the editing left out (where Claire raced to go to Meredith). I thought for sure Flint killed Mohinder, but he was fine and dandy a little bit later (did his power return in the car, or was that just visual poetry?).--Tim Thomason 22:40, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Wow, what?

Firstly, how the hell did Mohinder escape Pinehearst only seconds before it exploded? Secondly, where did the Haitian go? And how did Sylar get from New Jersey to New York and kill almost everyone in the Primatech facility in a span of, I dunno, five minutes? Other than that, solid episode. Bryan Fuller didn't write it by any chance, did he? It really felt like the old Heroes. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:22, 15 December 2008 (EST)

• • I was wondering about Haitian as well. Bloodbath 22:26, 15 December 2008 (EST)
    • He went after Sylar at the end of "Our Father". Apparently he lost him. --Dumpster juice 22:41, 15 December 2008 (EST)
      • Yeah, apparently... :/ - Mike N. 22:45, 15 December 2008 (EST)