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Drucker's back, Where??

I've read it twice and can't find him. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 02/10/2009 07:56 (EST)

Inside the computers? The Light6 07:58, 10 February 2009 (EST)

Actually you're right there is no explicit mention or reference of Drucker. I guess it was just an assumption.--Steelymcbeam 07:59, 10 February 2009 (EST)

Because of the !Libertad! poster that was part of Drucker's files. --Radicell 08:21, 10 February 2009 (EST)

Yes, but thats an assumption not fact, so should be altered on all articles it ahs been mentioned on. This person is a new character, so just leave as rebel.--345tom 11:30, 10 February 2009 (EST)

I think the new character's name should be 'Libertad' for now. I took all the 'rebel' references to mean the verb form: 'to rebel'... There probably shouldn't be a gallery on the GN page, and instead a note linking the image. If I recall correctly, that image didn't come from this novel.--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:38, 10 February 2009 (EST)
It shouldn't be listed as a Drucker novel in the GN portal. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 15:56, 10 February 2009 (EST)

Simon Bolivar

Is it really Simón Bolívar (1783-1830) himself appearing? I know "Rebel" is only in our heads... --Juba 11:35, 10 February 2009 (EST)

I think the new character's name should be 'Libertad' for now. I took all the 'rebel' references to mean the verb form: 'to rebel'... There probably shouldn't be a gallery on the GN page, and instead a note linking the image. If I recall correctly, that image didn't come from this novel.--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:38, 10 February 2009 (EST)
So you think Bolivar is just an avatar of "Libertad" or his messenger in a historic costume? Could be the "unorthodox way" of being visible... --Juba 17:22, 10 February 2009 (EST)
I think he's some fraternity guy that's delivering the message as part of his pledge...--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:32, 10 February 2009 (EST)

Abilities

1) Wallcrawling ~ Possibly a better name than that or is it some canon. Otherwise I thin it sounds stupid.
2) Blond-Trafficer ~ I don't think this is telekinesis, I doesn't seem like it (could be the water version or pyrokinesis). --IronyUTC CH 11:43, 10 February 2009 (EST)

  • 1) It's "wall crawling" (two words); 2) I'm not sure we can tell what the guy's ability is... I'd use a generic <guy>'s ability once we determine what to call him.--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:07, 10 February 2009 (EST)
    • Wall Crawling, Telekinesis, and Flight were shown. --Piemanmoo 13:52, 10 February 2009 (EST)
      • I don't think the guy's ability is telekinesis, I think it's water manipulation, or for the -kinesis fans, hydrokinesis. If it was just telekinesis, he'd have held the glasses too. Plus the blue glow in the eye is also a hint to water. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 15:56, 10 February 2009 (EST)
        • We don't know that he can just control water. It may be just hydrokinesis, but hydrokinesis is a form of telekinesis so we are covered by using the broader name.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:59, 10 February 2009 (EST)
          • We saw him control the liquid, telekinesis could do that, unless he wanted to show off, I think he'd have used it on the glasses as well. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:25, 10 February 2009 (EST)
            • I think you're probably right that the example shows he can't control solids, but what if he can control the flow of gases or plasmas as well as liquids? That's what I was suggesting. Also, I think we should now move this discussion to Talk:Telekinesis.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:39, 10 February 2009 (EST)
              • If we say hydrokinesis is a form of telekinesis, we might as well say pyrokinesis is, I think it is hydrokinesis. --IronyUTC CH 02:41, 11 February 2009 (EST)
                • This is now being discussed at length at Talk:Misha's ability. It looks like he can control at least both glass and water.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:31, 11 February 2009 (EST)

Summary

I was really hoping someone would write a summary to this one because I can't make heads or tails out of this comic. I know it's about some mysterious person who's texting people and getting them to meet together and avoid being captured... but I can't figure out if Rebel is a guy who's helping or hoping to crush these people... is it a trap? I just don't understand what the crap Rebel is talking about. It's like he's throwing words together.--Mistyjo 19:08, 10 February 2009 (EST)

  • Yeah, I had a heck of a time following it too. --Yamawhata? 16:50, 11 February 2009 (EST)
    • Glad I'm not the only one. Judging from the lack of summary and all the discussion centered around two frames of the comic and theories of who Rebel is... I say the majority of readers were left scratching their heads. --Mistyjo 18:01, 11 February 2009 (EST)
      • I understood this after three reads. Rebel sends people to the Angry Skunk bar so that Misha can provide them with IDs, which will allow them to elude the authorities. Misha says that they'll meet at 11:00 PM for the IDs. That night, the men who were monitoring the bar earlier capture Misha and his man, and Maya and company have no choice but to run away. Doorman crawls up the wall, fly-girl flies away and Maya receives a text message from Rebel, but we don't see what happens to her next. It's very simple once you get it.--Citizen 19:24, 11 February 2009 (EST)
        • I see, thanks!--Mistyjo 10:47, 12 February 2009 (EST)

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What's with the edit tags?--Crazylicious 22:37, 11 February 2009 (EST)

Maya

She looks like Sparrow in this GN. -- Altes 13:49, 17 June 2009 (EDT)