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Was'nt stealing Donna's chat with Blake done with Hana's ability? --Juba 18:00, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

I think from the newest novel, "Trust Issues Part 1" that it's possible Evs is none other than Claude. Think about it, who has a history of watching people and a distrust of both the company and people in general? It's easy to be an eavesdropper when you're invisible. --Mistyjo 07:37, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

  • I think his power is omnipresence - the ability to be everywhere, all the time, without actually being there. Certainly would be pretty bad ass. --DocM 07:40, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Friends

Me and Evs? We're best buds on Facebook. Totally stole the first wall post. --DocM 12:25, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

Evs Dropper

In the Graphic novels the name "Evs Dropper" is normally used, "evsdropr" is the username on 9thwonders.com. I don't know if this enough to move the page, but "Evs Dropper" should probably be used in the references to the GNs. -Lөvөl 03:10, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

  • I've been using "evsdropr" everywhere since that was the name that first appeared in Heroes Evolutions and that is the name of this article. I am ok with using either, but I'd prefer not to rename this article (since it's still a valid name and since splitting the name is a sorting nightmare, at least imho).--MiamiVolts (talk) 04:37, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
  • Im ok either way, but I'm leaning more in favor of converting "evsdropr" to "Evs Dropper," and performing the requisite rename.--SacValleyDweller (talk) 02:18, 9 May 2008 (EDT)
    • Either name is a valid name and can apparently be used interchangably (taking a cue from the way the names are used in the world of Heroes). I'd rather not rename the article. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:29, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

Continuity

Hey, I was hoping someone could clarify this for me because I've been scrambling my brains trying to understand if this was a timeline continuity error or I just missed something. Evsdropr received Hana's 'contact list' (at least that's how I recall it being called) in 2008 sometime after Hana Gitelmen's death in in the GP "The End of Hana and Drucker". But if Hana died in 2008, how was Evsdropr manipulating and messing around with company agents as early as Trust Issues which I believe occurred before "Four Months Later" on March 9, 2007? Was Evsdropr already turning the agents' trusts against each other or was this just overlooked by the writers? -- Ericcarner 12:33, 12 June 2008

  • Evsdropr was already turning the agents' trusts against each other in 2007. It's just that Evsdropr got our contact list in 2008 when Hana and Drucker were taken out of the equation, and is communicating with us about past events as we learn about them in the graphic novels.--MiamiVolts (talk) 10:56, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
    • Don't know if it helps, but remember that Hana actually died twice--once in November 2006 when she detached herself from her space shuttle, and once in 2008 when she was obliterated from the Company's mainframe. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:09, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
      • Also, I guess we should note that Heroes Evolutions does have the tendency to jump in time. For instance, when Hiro was 5 years in the future, his blog was updated for that future year.--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:31, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
        • Thanks for clarifying this for me, the whole communicating with us about past events makes sense. --Ericcarner 02:30, 13 June 2008

Gender

Evs Dropper is female? I believe Evs was identified as both Connie and what seems to be the escape clone. In fact, Sabine asks, "So you're both Evs Dropper?" Wouldn't that make Evs a group, and not a specific gender at all? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 06:52, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

  • I'd say we treat Evs like Takezo Kensei instead of a group, and make his or her gender neutral. Chrisyu357 08:08, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
    • Kensei is still one person, though more than one person has assumed his identity. Evs Dropper is more than one person acting together. The way the page reads now, it's basically a copy of Connie Logan's page, which is completely incorrect. Evs Dropper is not Connie, Connie makes up a part of the entity of Evs Dropper. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:44, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
      • I agree. Evsdropr should be considered a group, not a copy of Connie's page. Also, I think only the actions the group takes as Evsdropr should be relevant.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:50, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

Article title

While we're talking about changes, I think it's about time we move this article to Evs Dropper over evsdropr. The lowercase single-word, vowel-anemic version was what was used primarily, as it was the name used on Evs's 9thWonders.com profile. However, the capitalized, two-word, more grammatically correct version has been used more and more, and especially in more formalized printed texts (see many of the recent graphic novels, Evs Dropper's blog, a note from Evs). -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:33, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

For posible conversion of thsi article to a "group"

Evs Dropper.jpg

there is the image we'll need--SacValleyDweller (talk) 20:00, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

  • Perfect. Would you like to update the page, or shall I? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:07, 2 September 2008 (EDT)


The German's informant

Good catch on the intro to Hindsight! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:41, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

  • And which half was the shadow in Berlin, Part 1? Looks more like a JulienClown... --Juba 09:08, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
    • To me that doesn't look like anyone specific. I guess we'll never know which Evs half it really was. Pierre 09:17, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
    • However - if I was to speculated, I would go for the Clone, since the Company's history of keeping good track of its agents; Connie would have had a hard time explaining why she was going to Germany, Pierre 09:28, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
      • Really, it could more than just Connie or the clone. For instance, since Evs is a group of people, anybody doing work as Evs is part of the group. If Penny is somehow connected and is carrying out Evs Dropper's bidding, she could be considered part of the group. The argument could be made that the army of clones is part of the Evs Dropper entity. I mean, I'm not making that argument, and I think we should keep it simple for the purposes of this page, but my point is that it doesn't necessarily need to be either Connie or the clone who was physically in Berlin passing information on to the Germany... -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:10, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

Portal and Navbars and Lists, Oh my!

Articles should include the navbar that corresponds to the portal on which they are featured. For instance, Evs Dropper is a graphic novel group, so the page should have the GN group navbar. Evs Dropper is not a graphic novel character, so the corresponding navbar should not be on the page. Similarly, the Nakamura family is not a graphic novel character, so the navbar should not be on an article about the Nakamuras. Additionally, articles should generally only have one navbar that relates to a portal. In cases like Virginia Gray or Arthur Petrelli, some articles have another navbars (namely the one that lists articles related to Sylar and the one that lists articles related to Linderman respectively) because they are included on list pages. Those extra navbars do not correspond to any portal, but rather to pages that list articles related to a character or subject. If anything, we should be doing away with those "related articles" navbars, much like we did with the navbar about Jessica's victims and the navbar about the Company, but that's a discussion for another day. In the meantime, let's keep one portal-related navbar on a page, and let's only put navbars on articles that correspond to the portals in which the articles are included. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:16, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

I agree that the navbars only should be included on pages that are included in the bar. And Evs is included in the Evs GN navbar. Either we kick Evs out of the Evs GN navbar, or we include it in this article. (I do agree with you on Template:Linderman and Template:Sylar though) Pierre 08:34, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
Evs is purposely included as a see also, not in the navbar proper. We also include the names of issues and other portals on the see also bar, but it would be silly to include the navbar on those pages. Yes, it would be better to remove Evs's name from the navbar altogether than to include the navbar on this page, but there's nothing wrong with having a see also on the navbar and not including the template on the article it points to. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:35, 12 September 2008 (EDT)