Talk:Invisibility Series (painting)

This is a really cool page, but I'm not too sure about the image map. With the Homecoming paintings, the characters themselves said the paintings could be arranged like a comic. I'm afraid the image map here might be implying the same thing about these paintings, and that's speculation.--Hardvice (talk) 20:57, 15 February 2007 (EST)

• Also, if we're going to have a Paintings and their Realization section, we may as well lay it out like Prophecy.--Hardvice (talk) 21:01, 15 February 2007 (EST)
  • I agree. I'm kind of ambivalent about the image map. I don't think it serves any purpose, but I don't think it's hurting anything. They're laid out in the order they appeared, so it's not really speculation, but you're right, there's a misleading implication. Plus, the order really doesn't have anything to do with the story, as opposed to the Homecoming Series. But again, I don't really mind the map. I do agree, though, that the realizations either needs to be laid out differently or scrapped altogether in favor of the prophecy page. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:23, 15 February 2007 (EST)
    • On top of that, since the prophecy section is in chronological order anyway, the chronology seems kind of superfluous. And that is what makes me think it draws attention to the chronological order and the way they're fitted together, as though it Means Something.--Hardvice (talk) 23:31, 15 February 2007 (EST)
      • You know, the more I look at it, the more it bugs me -- it seems to imply something, which is a bit too much. I hate to get rid of it because it looks really nice, but it's just not right. Maybe we can put it in a "Cool but Useless Templates" dumping ground. :) — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:57, 15 February 2007 (EST)
        • Feel free to ax it.. I only created it to make it consistent with the homecoming series in terms of looks, and I thought it was more attractive and more space efficient than just putting all 5 of the images one after the other. :) --Frantik (Talk) 23:12, 18 February 2007 (EST)
  • I like the idea of making it more Prophecy-like, with painting and realization, and keeping the order in chronological order. Plus, we get more usage out of those Templates. There really wasn't any sense from the show that the paintings were another "comic page". Though, it would be interesting if it came out that Isaac always painted in comic panel form... --Orne 22:26, 15 February 2007 (EST)

Seventh Invisibility prophecy

I'm pretty sure the image Isaac paints at the end of Unexpected is part of this series. Right before Peter shows up, there's a shot of Isaac going from white eyes to normal eyes. Behind him is where Peter is standing, but you don't see him because he's invisible. Sure he's actually visible to Isaac when the painting is realized to us in the audience, but Peter was standing there a second before while invisible as well. --Frantik (Talk) 09:20, 20 February 2007 (EST)

• Was he, or did he just show up? In any case, it looks like a painting of a visible person ... and that makes it an odd inclusion on this page.--Hardvice (talk) 13:56, 20 February 2007 (EST)
  • iawtc -- we don't know if Peter was invisible or not when he showed up at Isaac's. Regardless, all the other paintings are of invisible people, so it would be odd to show one of a closeup of Peter's face. I could agree, however, that it's a painting of Isaac's search for Peter, but that's not what the article is about. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:21, 20 February 2007 (EST)
    • The only way he could not appear to be there one second, and then appear to be there the next second, would be if he was invisible. Also, not all paintings in there series are of a completely invisible Peter (A very visible Peter is seen recovering by the taxi), but I guess I see the point :P --Frantik (Talk) 16:08, 20 February 2007 (EST)
      • Or he could have just entered. He's on the stairs. Maybe he flew in the open door. We just don't know.--Hardvice (talk) 16:17, 20 February 2007 (EST)
        • If you watch the scene closely, you'll see there's no time for Peter to enter the room in between the time we see the staircase and closed (as possibly even locked, as Simone had her key in hand) door, unless he used some power we haven't seen him demonstrate like DL's ability to walk through walls.

1. We see the stairway/door over Isaac's shoulder. 2. Isaac is startled and begins to turn, and there's a cut to the painting as he completely turns around. 3. Then there's cut to a very calm and stationary Peter. Invisibility is what I'd use to pull of that trick if I were Peter --Frantik (Talk) 16:39, 20 February 2007 (EST)

• • • • • • Really, in the end, it's not about whether or not Peter was invisible at Isaac's. (Heck, he was invisible moments later, right?) It's about whether or not we should include the painting on this page. And since the painting has no invisibility in it whatsoever, I feel we shouldn't include it. Maybe make mention to it, but not include it. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:43, 20 February 2007 (EST)
          • Like i said, I see your guys' point, but I was just explaining that it's likely Peter did use invisibility :) --Frantik (Talk) 20:25, 20 February 2007 (EST)