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Cause of Death

  • Given the events surrounding his death (the DA's case; Linderman's goons, Nathan presumes, causing a car crash), is it safe to take the reported cause of death as truth? Especially given the ambiguous nature of Linderman, the reported lies covering up previous suicide attempts, and (it seems to me) that Nathan dropped the Linderman case after his father's death? I am wary of this assumption until we learn more of Linderman's organization. (Jared 1715, 29 November 2006)
    • I agree that it's quite likely that Linderman was involved in his death. I think it's okay to say that Angela and Nathan say he died of either a heart attack or suicide, because that's what they say, but we should probably shy away from definitively stating his cause of death ourselves. It'd be better to say Angela and Nathan believe he committed suicide and tell Peter he had a heart attack. Good catch.--Hardvice (talk) 17:38, 29 November 2006 (EST)

Speculative oddity

If Mr. Petrelli ends up being one of the characters from the War Buddies novels, we're going to have an odd problem of having an episodic character with a graphic novel picture. Not a big deal, just weird. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:00, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

Well, looks like we have it. I wonder if Adrian Pasdar will also play his dad, perhaps with some prosthetics. --Xmuskrat 20:33, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
Well, I don't think he's alive. There's an interview where Adrian talks about Mr. Petrelli being dead. But I could be wrong, we've seen some strange things on this show.--Bob 20:45, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
Personally, I was thinking in the past. Maybe in the second season they'll flashback and show a young Mr. P, Linderman, and Claude and the group they used to have. --Xmuskrat 20:46, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
Jason Badower makes a great point -- the War Buddies series is perfect for the comics because how else are you going to tell that story? Have Malcolm McDowell wearing prosthetics trying to look younger? I don't think we'll ever see a live Papa Petrelli. If they didn't have an actor play him in Six Months Ago when he was actually alive, I don't think they'll ever have anybody play him. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:29, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
He appears in that photo of the prior generation. I'm sure a screencap will surface before too long, so there is an actor associated with the role, even if it is just a model in a photo right now. I suspect that we'll be seeing much more in the coming weeks.

Unseen

Having appeared in four graphic novels, does Mr. Petrelli qualify as an "unseen character" anymore? I'm taking off that categorization. --Ted C 17:33, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Depression

So Angela tells us he was diagnosed with depression when he was 23...sound about the age that he would have been when he was discharged? --Bob 18:44, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Date of death

Why is Mr. Petrelli's death date speculative? I'm not debating, I just don't understand. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:06, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

To be evolved or not to be evolved

I'm putting this out there as a means of starting a discussion before starting any kind of edit war...So Linderman says to Nathan that Mr. Petrelli was "one of us" and "a man of great power". Is he evolved? My take on it is yes, he probably is, but it's not really confirmed yet. I'm not sure I want to take the word of another character on this one -- especially Mr. Linderman, who is manipulative and not always trustworthy. Besides, "one of us" and "a man of great power" (or "with great power", I forget) is not necessarily the same as being an evolved human with powers. It should, of course, go in his history and notes, but I'm not quite ready to say he's evolved. Other thoughts? — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:05, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

  • When I heard that, my thought on it was an intentional allusion to him being evolved, but the way it was delivered by Malcolm had a hint in it that he just meant in cahoots with Linderman, Angela and the group of "friends" who tried to save the world before. So, I'm for not making leaps of faith at this. We probably won't find out anything until next season about Mr. Petrelli.--Bob 08:11, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
    • Right, I wouldn't doubt that the guy actually is evolved (heck, he's got a granddaughter who can heal herself, a kid who can fly, and another kid who can, well, do almost anything), I just don't think it's really confirmed yet. Good thoughts about him being in cahoots. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:40, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

Arthur Petrelli

Someone from HeroesARG.com mentioned that the official Heroes mobile game revealed who the founding fathers of Primatech Company were. And that Arthur is Mr. Petrelli's first name. Mang0es 23:41, 6 October 2007 (EDT)

  • That's good information. Let's wait until we get a little more confirmation on that before we add it to the page. Even then, if we only hear his first name on the mobile game, we should probably only include the name in the notes, or at least that's how I'm leaning now. (It does help that the game was written in conjunction with the series writers.) I think we'll be learning a lot about Papa Petrelli in the coming weeks, so I'm sure that if a name is to be revealed, we'll learn it on the show. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:08, 7 October 2007 (EDT)
    • Lacking any reason to doubt it, I'd actually be willing to make this change. Surely the licensing guys have to approve such things, so I would regard this as legitimate information unless contradicted in an episode or graphic novel. --Ted C 14:12, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
      • The only problem is that although we know the mobile game was written by the writing staff, who knows what was specifically written by them. I'm for holding out for now, because look at the whole Linderman debacle with all the Bill edits, which was allowed by licensing for the DVD's closed captioning.--Bob (Talk) 14:14, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
        • On the other hand, where names are concerned we've always been a bit relaxed. Angela's first name wasn't said on-screen until season two. Elisa Thayer's never has been.--Hardvice (talk) 15:35, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
          • So Maury Parkman is cannon, as per the latest GN, since Maury and Arthur's names were both mentionned in the game, and that we confirmation that Maury Parkman is cannon, should we rename Mr. Petrelli Arthur Petrelli ? --LeoChris 16:28, 23 October 2007 (EDT)

I don't see the horns.

All I see are thick frames, and only the one piece which holds it to his head.--Riddler 21:31, 27 October 2007 (EDT)

Actor portraying Arthur Petrelli

I am new here, so sorry if I don't use the appropriate Wiki-standard or the right place for this comment...

I was wondering if Arthur Petrelli on the picture of the 12 founding fathers is portrayed by Robert Forster or someone else.

I am not sure if Image:Mr_petrelli.jpg is the same person as Image:Arthur_Petrelli.jpg

--Hagriddler 20:14, 2 November 2008 (EST)

Hi there Hagriddler! Your comment is just fine. All miscellaneous comments should go into the talk page of an article, which you did. As for Wiki-standards... your comment seems to be just fine too! You even signed your name! Most newbies don't remember to do that. :)
Anyway, as for your question, the person who portrays Arthur Petrelli in the picture of the Company founders doesn't really look like the same actor as Robert Forster, the actor who portrays him right now. The man in the picture definitely is not as wrinkly as Robert Forster. :P Yeah, I really don't think they're the same person. Good question, though! Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 20:31, 2 November 2008 (EST)