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| [[Elle]] is related to [[Niki]] somehow. || None || {{plus}} Just like [[Claire]] and [[Meredith]], they all share some resemblance.<br /> |
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{{minus}} It is noted [http://www.heroesrevealed.com/spoiler/volume-2-what-changed-volume-3-whats-next/ here] that Elle was originally meant to be Meredith's daughter. However, the writers dropped it due to plot holes.<br /> |
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{{note}} Little is known about Meredith's affairs to previously meeting [[Nathan]].<br /> |
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{{minus}} It is unlikely that, upon meeting her long-lost daughter, Meredith would not tell her about her sister.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Meredith did not tell Claire who her father was, so it is quite unlikely that she would of told her about her sister.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Unlike Claire and Meredith, Elle does not have an ability that would help her survive the fire.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} [[Meredith]] could have conceived [[Elle]] a year or two ''before'' the [[Fire (1992)|fire]] making Elle slightly older than Claire which in reality is plausible. Claire and Elle may battle each other at some point and the cause of this battle may have to do with something happening to Meredith.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Elle is 24 (she told [[Peter]] in ''[[Four Months Ago]]'') so he's older than Claire by five or so years. She may have been off visiting relatives or was with Bob (who may or may not be her real father) or Meredith may have gotten her out. There's no indication whether or not Claire had powers back then, [[Noah]] and [[Claude]] probably just got her out in time, that's all.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Kristen]] Bell has stated that Elle and Claire share a deep relationship.<br /> |
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{{note}} Kristen has also let slip that she and Hayden joke about being sisters.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} It can also be a reference to an adoption from someone in the Company: Claire was adopted by Noah, Elle could be adopted too. Perhaps they share familiar feelings about adoption.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} [[Elle]] stated in "Four Months Ago" that at age six, she burned her mother's house down. [[Claire]]'s house burned down when she was a baby.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} In [[Graphic Novel:Hell's Angel|Hell's Angel]], Meredith clearly lived in an apartment not a house.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} [[Elle]] said she had burned down her grandmother's house, not mother's.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Elle is 24 years old, and Claire is 16-17 years old, so if Elle burned the house at the age of six, Claire wouldn't have been born yet.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Elle being 24 makes the fire happen 18 years ago, if Claire was 17 last year then she will be 18 this year, making the timeline fit.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Claire's age has been varied throughout, her actual age is not certain unlike Elle's.<br /> |
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{{note}} Her power is similar to [[pyrokinesis]], but so far evolved human families rarely share powers.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} [[Maury]] and [[Matt]] share the same level of powers due to Matt's rapid ability development.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Meredith may have caused the fire in the house, and not known it. If this is true, then it is plausible that Elle was born a few years before Claire.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Elle stated that she is 24. Meredith is known to be 35. For Elle to be Meredith's daughter she would have been conceived when Meredith was 11, which is highly unlikely and probably too unsavory for a TV show.<br /> |
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| [[Elle]] is [[Matt Parkman]]'s sister. || None. || {{plus}} Matt's father has powers and abandoned him.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Matt's father is/was in the company.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The Parkman family seems to be one of the few examples of similar abilities being passed down, as both father and son share variations of [[telepathy]].<br /> |
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| [[Elle]] is related to [[Niki]] somehow. || None. || {{plus}} Just like [[Claire]] and [[Meredith]], they all share some resemblance.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} They all have blond hair, but there are a lot of blond women in the world.<br /> |
:{{minus}} They all have blond hair, but there are a lot of blond women in the world.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Micah]] is Niki's son and [[Technopathy|his ability]] is similar to [[Electric manipulation|Elle's]] as it deals with electricity.<br /> |
{{plus}} [[Micah]] is Niki's son and [[Technopathy|his ability]] is similar to [[Electric manipulation|Elle's]] as it deals with electricity.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Micah's ability deals more with electric signals than with electricity itself.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Micah's ability deals more with electric signals than with electricity itself.<br /> |
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| [[Elle]] is the sister of another [[evolved human]] with the same [[ |
| [[Elle]] is the sister of another [[evolved human]] with the same [[Electric manipulation|ability]]. || None || {{plus}} Many characters with electromagnetic powers are twins, sisters, or something else, representing a positive or a negative energy charge.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} There are at least two other [[evolved humans]] with this power or something similar.<br /> |
:{{plus}} There are at least two other [[evolved humans]] with this power or something similar.<br /> |
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| [[Elle]] is the sister of the future [[ |
| [[Elle]] is the sister of the future [[Agent (electric manipulation)|agent]] with a similar ability. || None || {{plus}} He would fit as the polar opposite for Elle personality.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Both work for an organization that deals with [[evolved humans]].<br /> |
{{plus}} Both work for an organization that deals with [[evolved humans]].<br /> |
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{{note}} Given the five year difference, they may be close in age.<br /> |
{{note}} Given the five year difference, they may be close in age.<br /> |
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| [[Elle]] is the sister of the [[teenage patient]] with a similar ability. || None |
| [[Elle]] is the sister of the [[teenage patient]] with a similar ability. || None || {{plus}} The patient had the power to absorb electricity, while Elle seems to create it, making their powers fit if they are twins/siblings.<br /> |
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| [[Elle]] started the fire that [[Meredith]] and [[Claire]] supposedly died in. || None. || {{plus}} In ''[[Four Months Ago...]]'', Elle told [[Peter]] that she started a fire at her grandmother's house when she was 6. Elle also said that she was 24, making the incident 18 years ago. This comes within a year of Claire's birth timeline, possible overlapping it if facts are slightly inaccurate. Meredith would have been a reasonably young mother (around 20), and as stated in the graphic novel ''[[Hell's Angel]]'' she was living in an apartment complex, where many members of the same family can live. If this was Elle's grandmother's residence, Claire and Elle would at least be cousins, if not sisters.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} ''[[Hell's Angel]]'' heavily implies that Meredith started the fire. As Claude said, "the bitch [[pyrokinesis|blew up]]!"<br /> |
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{{plus}} Kristen Bell has stated that Elle and Claire share a deep relationship.<br /> |
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{{note}} Claire's grandmother is [[Angela]]. If Elle is a sister or cousin to Claire who is Meredith's daughter, then one of the [[Petrelli]]'s must of fathered Elle.<br /> |
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{{minus}} If Elle is Meredith's daughter or niece then she could be referring to her grandmother on Meredith's side of the family, not the Petrellis.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The character with [[pyrokinesis]] is more likely to cause a fire than the character with [[electric manipulation]].<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Lightning may cause electrical fires (Example: Peter's shirt ignites as Elle blasts him. ([[Four Months Ago]]))<br /> |
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{{minus}} Elle says that she set her grandmother's house on fire (''[[Four Months Ago...]]''). Meredith was Claire's mother, but Elle is older than Claire is.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Ted's power was [[induced radioactivity]]; nuclear explosions can create EMPs. For Elle to generate a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse#Non-nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse non-nuclear EMP], she'd probably need additional equipment.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Ted's power was [[induced radioactivity]]; nuclear explosions can create EMPs. For Elle to generate a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse#Non-nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse non-nuclear EMP], she'd probably need additional equipment.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Elle has never exhibited this ability.<br /> |
{{minus}} Elle has never exhibited this ability.<br /> |
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| [[Elle Bishop]] would have been the mother of [[Sylar]]'s [[Noah Gray|son]] [[I Am Become Death|from the future]]. || None || {{note}} No mention of the identity of Noah's mother was made.<br /> |
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{{note}} It's likely that [[Sylar]]'s son will play no further role in the show. As that possible future will be prevented in some way.<br /> |
{{note}} It's likely that [[Sylar]]'s son will play no further role in the show. As that possible future will be prevented in some way.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Elle has been killed off in the new timeline.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Elle has been killed off in the new timeline.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Elle also died. (''[[The Eclipse, Part 2]]'')<br /> |
:{{minus}} Elle also died. (''[[The Eclipse, Part 2]]'')<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Elle can still be [[Noah Gray]]'s mother only if the timeline containing that future already branched off of the current timeline prior to Elle's death. Since we are not following a timeline in which Sylar did not kill Elle, we may never know who Noah's mother is.<br /> |
::{{plus}} Elle can still be [[Noah Gray]]'s mother only if the timeline containing that future already branched off of the current timeline prior to Elle's death. Since we are not following a timeline in which Sylar did not kill Elle, we may never know who Noah's mother is.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Aron Coleite]], writer of [[The Eclipse, Part 1]] and [[The Eclipse, Part 2]], revealed in the 10th Wonder Podcast that, "We will find out who the mother is sometime during 'The Eclipse'" and Elle was the only one Sylar had sex or any intimate relations with during that episode.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Prior to [[The Eclipse]] episodes, [[Heroes]] creator [[Tim Kring]] was also quoted as saying, "We will find out [who Noah's mother is], yes. We will know very soon."<br /> |
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{{minus}} There is no other Noah character except of [[Noah Bennet]], so it is weird why the character's name is Noah. It is possible that Noah is the child of Claire.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Sylar and Elle are both somewhat insane, not to mention twisted. By their reasoning, Noah might have been responsible for their meeting, and (consequently) their son's birth. This could lead them to naming the child after the man who was responsible for their relationship.<br /> |
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| [[Elle]]'s loss of control over her own powers could be related to [[ |
| [[Elle]]'s loss of control over her own powers could be related to [[Sylar]]'s attack on her. || None || {{plus}} Elle's didn't start to lose her powers until after the fight. Maybe Sylar trying to remove her skull caused her ability to somehow leak out of her.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Elle doesn't seem to be infatuated with Peter anymore. They haven't seen each other for months, and when Elle saw Peter fall out of the building, she just ran off instead of helping him.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Elle's loss of control seemed to begin after [[Sylar]]'s attack on her at [[Primatech Research]].<br /> |
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{{minus}} [[Claire]]'s powers began to malfunction way before Peter lost his powers.<br /> |
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| [[Elle]]'s loss of control over her own powers could be related to [[Sylar]]'s attack on her. || None. || {{plus}} Elle's didn't start to lose her powers until after the fight. Maybe Sylar trying to remove her skull caused her ability to somehow leak out of her.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Claire]]'s powers also began to malfunction immediately after Sylar attacked her.<br /> |
{{plus}} [[Claire]]'s powers also began to malfunction immediately after Sylar attacked her.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Claire's power isn't malfunctioning, but allowing her not to feel pain. It's just a new found addition to the ability.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Claire's power isn't malfunctioning, but allowing her not to feel pain. It's just a new found addition to the ability.<br /> |
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{{plus}} After Sylar helped her express herself, she regained control of her ability. (''[[It's Coming]]'')<br /> |
{{plus}} After Sylar helped her express herself, she regained control of her ability. (''[[It's Coming]]'')<br /> |
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{{plus}} Elle has been through many emotional experiences, this could cause her to lose control of her ability.<br/> |
{{plus}} Elle has been through many emotional experiences, this could cause her to lose control of her ability.<br/> |
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{{plus}} Powers can be affected by powerful emotions, such as [[Hiro]]'s powers failing him when he lost confidence. It's possible the death of her father and the end of the only life she's known is why she's now unable to control her power. Thus, it could be related to, but not directly caused by, Sylar's attack.<br /> |
{{plus}} Powers can be affected by powerful emotions, such as [[Hiro]]'s powers failing him when he lost confidence. It's possible the death of her father and the end of the only life she's known is why she's now unable to control her power. Thus, it could be related to, but not directly caused by, Sylar's attack.<br /> |
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| [[Elle]]'s loss of control of her power is related to the electrical blast that came from her body when [[Sylar]] tried to take her power. || None || {{plus}} As far as we know, Elle has not performed a blast that big since she developed her ability.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} By normal he meant happy, not a psychopath, he also mentioned them wanting to know how much electricity she could generate, implying she manifested an ability quite early in life.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Elle's ability manifested during her childhood, all characters confirmed to have synthetic abilities manifested only in adulthood.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} This could only be because Elle was forced to manifest her ability by her father when he did testing on her.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Perhaps she is a second generation synthetic, as [[Claire]] is. The first generation synthetics ([[Nathan]], [[Niki]], etc.) seem to function fine. If they have children together, the formula may become unpredictable (as it has with Claire).<br /> |
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| [[Elle]]'s loss of control of her power is related to the electrical blast that came from her body when [[Sylar]] tried to take her power. || None. || {{plus}} As far as we know, Elle has not performed a blast that big since she developed her ability.<br /> |
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{{note}} Elle stated she caused a blackout in four counties in Ohio when she was eight. (''[[Four Months Ago]]'')<br /> |
{{note}} Elle stated she caused a blackout in four counties in Ohio when she was eight. (''[[Four Months Ago]]'')<br /> |
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| We did not see the real [[Elle]] at the end of ''[[The Eclipse, Part 2]]''. || None |
| We did not see the real [[Elle]] at the end of ''[[The Eclipse, Part 2]]''. || None || {{plus}} Elle was acting extremely out of character in the last scene. She flinched. She slept with the man earlier in that day, flipped out when she thought he died, but then she flinches when he touches her? And, last time he tried to kill her, she exploded. This time, not even a zap? Something doesn't add up here.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Elle flinched because [[Sylar]] was hurting her. When she told Sylar, he replied, "I know".<br /> |
:{{note}} Elle flinched because [[Sylar]] was hurting her. When she told Sylar, he replied, "I know".<br /> |
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{{plus}} How did Elle get to the beach? We didn't see [[Hiro]] transport her there. As far as we know, he has to go with someone when he transports them. Plus, he still thought he was ten at the time.<br /> |
{{plus}} How did Elle get to the beach? We didn't see [[Hiro]] transport her there. As far as we know, he has to go with someone when he transports them. Plus, he still thought he was ten at the time.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} We did see Hiro transport her, from the Bennet house. We didn't actually see him appear at the beach end of the transport, but he most likely did it so quickly that we just didn't see him.<br /> |
:{{minus}} We did see Hiro transport her, from the Bennet house. We didn't actually see him appear at the beach end of the transport, but he most likely did it so quickly that we just didn't see him.<br /> |
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{{minus}} It's possible she simply resigned herself to death and let Sylar kill her.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Elle didn't look like she wanted to be killed.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} If Sylar had murdered someone and not been able to [[Intuitive aptitude|extract an ability]], he would have known.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Before Sylar murdered Elle, he had minimal control over his electric manipulation. Afterwards, he was almost as skillful as Elle was.<br /> |
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| In the end, both [[Claire]] and [[Elle]] cared what happened to each other. || None || {{minus}} Elle didn't seem shocked that her intended shot for Noah hit Claire.<br /> |
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| We will see [[Elle]] in flashbacks, but a younger Elle. || None. || {{plus}} [[Greg Beeman]] [http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/2008/12/beemans-blog-season-3-episode-12.html said] the scene in ''[[Our Father]]'' was [[Kristen Bell]]'s last scene in Heroes, but he didn't say anything about it being Elle's final appearance.<br /> |
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:{{note}} She didn't know Claire's [[Rapid cell regeneration|power]] [[Eclipse|wasn't working]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} Elle's past is what made her such a good character. The writers may want to explore that to make fans happy.<br /> |
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{{note}} Sylar was also next to her, if she looked shocked he would be suspicious.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} They could explore the blackout she mentioned, her mother's death as [[Bob]] mentioned, and the fire on her grandmother's house, also mentioned by Elle.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Sylar just had his arm dislocated, how she felt about Claire was the least of his concerns at the time.<br /> |
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{{minus}} There are no more characters with whom Elle has a past connection with.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} When [[Sylar]] was sent to get [[Claire]], Elle looked worried, and when [[Sylar]] said Elle was dead [[Claire]] seemed a bit sad.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} It could be a new character.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Elle could be worried about Sylar, since they were on good terms now, or could be worried about having to deal with Noah.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} They wouldn't bring in a new character for just this. She could be connected to another character that already exists or we've heard of but haven't seen, like [[Barbara]].<br /> |
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:::{{plus}} Elle and Sylar still had powers then; Noah would not have been much of an impediment.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Claire didn't look sad, she was surprised that Sylar killed Elle after seeing them working together.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Elle shooting Claire would seem to cancel out any bond they formed on the plane, at least on Claire's part.<br /> |
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| Elle Bishop and Noah are related, possibly as sister and brother. || None || {{plus}} Bob was born seventeen years before Noah was born, making him just old enough to be Noah's father.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Elle's mother is unmentioned, perhaps the supposed connection between Elle and Claire is Elle is her half-aunt.<br /> |
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{{plus}} This ties in with Sylar as Claire's uncle if in the exposed future, he fathered a son with her adopted aunt.<br /> |
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{{plus}} This ties in with Sylar's link with Noah, he was involved with his sister.<br /> |
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{{minus}} So Noah, the great family man, tries to murder his own father and little sister?<br /> |
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{{plus}} His father and sister were threatening his daughter.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Switching your last name from Bishop to Bennet to Butler (Four Months Later) is not a huge stretch. Perhaps he wanted to prove his own value, instead of being known as the Boss's illegitimate kid.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Bennet has no knowledge of Linderman's connection to the Company and is imprisoned without appeal (Parasite). It would be very odd if his father was one of the leaders...<br /> |
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{{plus}} Neither Bob nor Noah may know if they're related as cousins or father and son.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Neither Nathan nor Peter Petrelli seemed aware of their parents' activities at the Company.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Thompson mentions bringing him in personally. (.07%).<br /> |
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{{plus}} An "HRG" shot with Bob (over the shoulder, from the back) was in Powerless. Besides being symbolic reference of Bob's control over Noah, it could also be symbolic of their possible family ties.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Sylar's [[Noah Gray|child]] is implied to be Elle's. It would normal to name your son after your brother.<br /> |
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The following fan theories are about Elle Bishop.
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| Elle is related to Niki somehow. | None | + Just like Claire and Meredith, they all share some resemblance.
+ Micah is Niki's son and his ability is similar to Elle's as it deals with electricity.
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| Elle is the sister of another evolved human with the same ability. | None | + Many characters with electromagnetic powers are twins, sisters, or something else, representing a positive or a negative energy charge.
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| Elle is the sister of the future agent with a similar ability. | None | + He would fit as the polar opposite for Elle personality. + Both work for an organization that deals with evolved humans. |
| Elle is the sister of the teenage patient with a similar ability. | None | + The patient had the power to absorb electricity, while Elle seems to create it, making their powers fit if they are twins/siblings. |
| Elle has the ability to emit electromagnetic pulses. | None | + Noah Bennet was able to describe to Ted Sprague the way to emit an EMP from the perspective of an evolved human.
- Elle has never exhibited this ability. |
| Elle Bishop would have been the mother of Sylar's son from the future. | None | • No mention of the identity of Noah's mother was made. • It's likely that Sylar's son will play no further role in the show. As that possible future will be prevented in some way.
+ Noah had much lighter hair than his father, indicating that Noah's mother may have had blond hair, not unlike Elle.
+ Aron Coleite, writer of The Eclipse, Part 1 and The Eclipse, Part 2, revealed in the 10th Wonder Podcast that, "We will find out who the mother is sometime during 'The Eclipse'" and Elle was the only one Sylar had sex or any intimate relations with during that episode.
- There is no other Noah character except of Noah Bennet, so it is weird why the character's name is Noah. It is possible that Noah is the child of Claire.
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| Elle's loss of control over her own powers could be related to Sylar's attack on her. | None | + Elle's didn't start to lose her powers until after the fight. Maybe Sylar trying to remove her skull caused her ability to somehow leak out of her. + Claire's powers also began to malfunction immediately after Sylar attacked her.
+ After Sylar helped her express herself, she regained control of her ability. (It's Coming) |
| Elle's loss of control of her power is related to the electrical blast that came from her body when Sylar tried to take her power. | None | + As far as we know, Elle has not performed a blast that big since she developed her ability. • Elle stated she caused a blackout in four counties in Ohio when she was eight. (Four Months Ago) |
| We did not see the real Elle at the end of The Eclipse, Part 2. | None | + Elle was acting extremely out of character in the last scene. She flinched. She slept with the man earlier in that day, flipped out when she thought he died, but then she flinches when he touches her? And, last time he tried to kill her, she exploded. This time, not even a zap? Something doesn't add up here.
+ How did Elle get to the beach? We didn't see Hiro transport her there. As far as we know, he has to go with someone when he transports them. Plus, he still thought he was ten at the time.
- It's possible she simply resigned herself to death and let Sylar kill her.
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| In the end, both Claire and Elle cared what happened to each other. | None | - Elle didn't seem shocked that her intended shot for Noah hit Claire.
• Sylar was also next to her, if she looked shocked he would be suspicious.
- Elle shooting Claire would seem to cancel out any bond they formed on the plane, at least on Claire's part. |
| Elle Bishop and Noah are related, possibly as sister and brother. | None | + Bob was born seventeen years before Noah was born, making him just old enough to be Noah's father. + Elle's mother is unmentioned, perhaps the supposed connection between Elle and Claire is Elle is her half-aunt. |
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