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Does anyone have a version of it that works for people out side of the U.S?
Does anyone have a version of it that works for people out side of the U.S?
non U.S. Heroes fans would be very grateful. [[User:LilRebel616|LilRebel616]] 11:56, 18 November 2008 (EST)
non U.S. Heroes fans would be very grateful. [[User:LilRebel616|LilRebel616]] 11:56, 18 November 2008 (EST)
* I'm not sure if this helps you, but you can now also watch at [http://www.hulu.com/watch/44929/heroes-intervention#s-p1-st-i3 Hulu.com].--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 02:57, 19 November 2008 (EST)
** Nope, unfortunately that's still flagged US-ian only. --[[User:Maelwys|Maelwys]] 14:24, 19 November 2008 (EST)
*** There's [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OURhIsjunv0 this one] at youtube, if you don't mind watching it with Spanish subs. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] 15:05, 19 November 2008 (EST)

== The syringe ==

I interpreted it that Elisa's power just allows the transmute things she is in contact with to water and back as well, not that it can be used to materialize objects. After all, her clothes came with her into and back out of water form, so there's no reason that a syringe could not as well. It could very well be that she had it on her person somewhere, and took it out when she was kissing Santiago. --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 13:44, 6 December 2008 (EST)
* Um, didn't you notice her [[:Image:Human_again%2C_with_the_syringe.jpg|wearing that tight-fitting white dress]]? ;-) It's not like she could just hide it under a sleeve since they are too short and tight fitting. The syringe just suddenly appeared in her hand before she chased Santiago, and she wasn't holding it when she started kissing him.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 14:09, 6 December 2008 (EST)
** Also, an explanation could be that she dematerialized the syringe some time ago and is just now rematerializing it when she needs it.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 15:05, 6 December 2008 (EST)
** It's a tight fitting dress, but not so much that it's inconceivable to have a syringe hidden somewhere, imo. I think it's more speculative to say that she may be able to keep things in a water state and materialize them at will (essentially Pym particles with a different mechanism) than it is to say she could have had it under her dress (strapped to her upper leg, perhaps). On the other hand, that's a really cool ability, and makes water mimicry far more powerful. :) --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 17:17, 6 December 2008 (EST)
*** So what are you saying--that it isn't so tight fitting that she'd fall over if she tried to reach under it without bending over? Ok, if you say so. LOL.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 17:32, 6 December 2008 (EST)
**** No, I'm just saying she's a trained agent, and could have lifted her leg or had it beneath that belt thingy on her back. I think the simplest explanation is that she had it hidden on her person in it's regular form, and not that her ability extends to keeping objects in water form (without showing signs of excess water on her to boot). I'd probably even chalk the 'tight-fitting dress thing up to a filming inconsistency before assuming her power extended that far. --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 17:44, 6 December 2008 (EST)
***** Yeah, yeah, I'm sure if she was in a bikini you'd still be saying it was a filming inconsistency. Heh. ;)--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 18:26, 6 December 2008 (EST)
***** It's the simplest explanation, yes, but it also doesn't really make sense considering what people have already repeatedly said about her dress. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 20:41, 6 December 2008 (EST)
****** The dress is not ''that'' tight-fitting, and there's clearly some sort of belt accessory built in. I'm just not comfortable saying that the ability of water mimcry allows her to keep objects in water form while she's in human form, based on how tight her dress appeared. Maybe she had the syringe tied into her hair (which is long enough to conceal it). Maybe someone came and handed it to her while Santiago was distracted. That's all speculation, but so is extending her ability to make her into a walking locker, allowing her to have a bunch of objects on her, concealed and in water form, at any given time. As such, none of it should be listed on the page, imo, until more evidence presentes itself (likely only to be in a CBR interview at this point). Miamivolts' last edit ('Santiago notices a syringe in her hand '''that she had not been holding before''''), is the best way to put it, as it sticks to the facts. --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 21:34, 6 December 2008 (EST)

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It was a nice webisode part... it was 4:20 in length, but it seemed much shorter. The dialogue wasn't that great, but the action was directed well and it was exciting.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:13, 18 November 2008 (EST)

Universal Link?

Does anyone have a version of it that works for people out side of the U.S? non U.S. Heroes fans would be very grateful. LilRebel616 11:56, 18 November 2008 (EST)

  • I'm not sure if this helps you, but you can now also watch at Hulu.com.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:57, 19 November 2008 (EST)
    • Nope, unfortunately that's still flagged US-ian only. --Maelwys 14:24, 19 November 2008 (EST)
      • There's this one at youtube, if you don't mind watching it with Spanish subs. Intuitive Empath 15:05, 19 November 2008 (EST)

The syringe

I interpreted it that Elisa's power just allows the transmute things she is in contact with to water and back as well, not that it can be used to materialize objects. After all, her clothes came with her into and back out of water form, so there's no reason that a syringe could not as well. It could very well be that she had it on her person somewhere, and took it out when she was kissing Santiago. --Stevehim 13:44, 6 December 2008 (EST)

  • Um, didn't you notice her wearing that tight-fitting white dress? ;-) It's not like she could just hide it under a sleeve since they are too short and tight fitting. The syringe just suddenly appeared in her hand before she chased Santiago, and she wasn't holding it when she started kissing him.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:09, 6 December 2008 (EST)
    • Also, an explanation could be that she dematerialized the syringe some time ago and is just now rematerializing it when she needs it.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:05, 6 December 2008 (EST)
    • It's a tight fitting dress, but not so much that it's inconceivable to have a syringe hidden somewhere, imo. I think it's more speculative to say that she may be able to keep things in a water state and materialize them at will (essentially Pym particles with a different mechanism) than it is to say she could have had it under her dress (strapped to her upper leg, perhaps). On the other hand, that's a really cool ability, and makes water mimicry far more powerful.  :) --Stevehim 17:17, 6 December 2008 (EST)
      • So what are you saying--that it isn't so tight fitting that she'd fall over if she tried to reach under it without bending over? Ok, if you say so. LOL.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:32, 6 December 2008 (EST)
        • No, I'm just saying she's a trained agent, and could have lifted her leg or had it beneath that belt thingy on her back. I think the simplest explanation is that she had it hidden on her person in it's regular form, and not that her ability extends to keeping objects in water form (without showing signs of excess water on her to boot). I'd probably even chalk the 'tight-fitting dress thing up to a filming inconsistency before assuming her power extended that far. --Stevehim 17:44, 6 December 2008 (EST)
          • Yeah, yeah, I'm sure if she was in a bikini you'd still be saying it was a filming inconsistency. Heh. ;)--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:26, 6 December 2008 (EST)
          • It's the simplest explanation, yes, but it also doesn't really make sense considering what people have already repeatedly said about her dress. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 20:41, 6 December 2008 (EST)
            • The dress is not that tight-fitting, and there's clearly some sort of belt accessory built in. I'm just not comfortable saying that the ability of water mimcry allows her to keep objects in water form while she's in human form, based on how tight her dress appeared. Maybe she had the syringe tied into her hair (which is long enough to conceal it). Maybe someone came and handed it to her while Santiago was distracted. That's all speculation, but so is extending her ability to make her into a walking locker, allowing her to have a bunch of objects on her, concealed and in water form, at any given time. As such, none of it should be listed on the page, imo, until more evidence presentes itself (likely only to be in a CBR interview at this point). Miamivolts' last edit ('Santiago notices a syringe in her hand that she had not been holding before'), is the best way to put it, as it sticks to the facts. --Stevehim 21:34, 6 December 2008 (EST)