Talk:Examples of simultaneous ability use

Needs

• This page needs to be cleaned up. For instance, there is no such thing as "TK-ing", and power names Do Not Get Capitalized. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:14, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Done. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 10/9/2008 13:24 (EST)
• We need to look at the name, too. At the very least "powers" should change to "abilities" to fit the convention. Does the name need to be clarified like "Examples of simultaneous ability use" or is "Examples of simultaneous abilities" sufficient? (Admin 13:26, 9 October 2008 (EDT))
  • I prefer the "examples of simultaneous ability use" name, personally. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:31, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

incorrect example in season 3

• (Assuming it's the scene where Peter is talking to future gabriel about getting his power) I don't think Peter used telekinesis on Future Gabriel while trying to read his mind. When he puts his hand out, he's already done trying to read his mind, and there's no indication he's using TK, as there is no effect on Sylar at all. I think he was just threatening him, similar to how he reacted after being removed from Jesse's body. Also, shouldn't the season 3 future Sylars be Future Gabriels? Stevehim 17:32, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

Removal

I think this should be removed because in this scene Hiro is freezing time. Therefore Peter is only using one ability--BlueRavenBoy 18:11, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

• Peter is using the space-time manipoulation ability passively, in that he's not affected by Hiro slowing time. Stevehim 18:14, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Right -- it's actually a pretty cool effect of the time-stopping ability. Remember when Future Hiro stopped time on the New York subway, and everything froze around Peter, but Peter had no idea what was going on. Similar to when Hiro stopped time as Peter was on the warpath with Adam, walking through Primatech Paper. Great side effect! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:18, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

Time Stopping

Can someone confirm whether Peter actually froze time when he telekinetically caught the vial in Powerless? Because I was under the impression it was just telekinesis but I might be wrong. -- Ericcarner - 05:18, 10 October 2008

• Wasn't the vial still spinning slowly, indicating just TK? Plus, I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed elsewhere Peter (not future Peter) has yet to stop time --Matchu 01:31, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Unexpected, half way through Season 1, was the first time Present Peter actively stopped time. Hiros, several episodes before that, was the first time Present Peter passively participated in a time-stop (with Future Hiro on the Subway). --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 10/13/2008 19:13 (EST)
  • When did he stop time in unexpected? the tazer dealie? that was more llikely TK. --Max00:22, 12 December 2008 (EST)
    • Yes, the taser dealie. Peter used both telekinesis and time-stopping. Lots of previous discussion about this here, here, and here. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:41, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Incorrect Season 2 example

I don't think the example regarding Peter using lightning while time is stopped is correct. Technically, he was using lightning while Hiro had time stopped, right? --Aburu 22:27, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

• Ah, but when one stops time, it stops automatically for the other. Peter may not have been actively stopping time, but his ability was being engaged. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:53, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

Our Father

New example in Our Father: Sylar stopping the bullet telekinetically while detecting Arthur's lies.--Radicell 19:32, 13 December 2008 (EST)

Also, how about when Arthur erases Hiro's memory and uses telekinesis on Ando (It's Coming), or the time when he holds Hiro in place telekinetically and absorbs his powers and his catalyst (Our Father)? --Radicell 19:35, 13 December 2008 (EST)

• Those sound good. Would you like to add them? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:14, 13 December 2008 (EST)
  • Ahh, I was away and it looks like someone else did the job. No problem. --Radicell 22:48, 13 December 2008 (EST)

We missed one

Hang on a minute. When Peter Petrelli was training with Claude Rains in Unexpected, when he used telekinesis he was invisible at the same time. That's pretty significant isn't it? That was one of his first times using an ability off his own bat at all, and he managed two at once? He obviously didn't come out of his invisibility when he used telekinesis, otherwise he'd have stopped being able to see Claude. Immelman 19:15, 23 December 2008

• Good point! Would you like to add it? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:32, 23 December 2008 (EST)
  • Done and done. - Immelman 17:02, 24 December 2008 (GMT)
• I think I have an explanation for that. Invisibility is pretty much a passive ability, and since he was automatically mimicking it in Claude's presence, he didn't have to think about it... but with telekinesis it was a different case. So I suppose for him, it was really only like using one ability, even though he did use two. Either way, that's a very nice catch! I never would have realized that myself... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 23:15, 24 December 2008 (EST)

Intuitive aptitude

What about all the times Sylar and Peter have used other abilities while experiencing the hunger? - Josh (talk/contribs) 23:00, 24 December 2008 (EST)

I'm not sure that feeling the hunger is actually using intuitive aptitude. It's a by-product of the ability: the desire to know more isn't the same thing as actually acquiring knowledge. -Immelman (talk/contribs) 16:14, 26 December 2008 (GMT)

Flying regeneration

I can't recall and don't have the Season 2 discs, but was Peter shown to regenerate at all when he caught Nathan after the explosion, or was he already fully healed by that point? --Stevehim 23:11, 24 December 2008 (EST)

Wait, who said he had to heal from exploding? Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 23:14, 24 December 2008 (EST)

Claire had to... According to the Rule of Ted, I guess he might would not have to, but wasn't there something in season one that said if Ted went nuclear he would end up dead? --Stevehim 23:39, 24 December 2008 (EST)

She wasn't the one that exploded in I Am Become Death... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ]

I was actually thinking of her season one regeneration after knocking Ted out, but I was editing that post as you were responding.  ;) Anyway, what I meant was did they show Peter regenerating as he was carrying Nathan? --Stevehim 23:45, 24 December 2008 (EST)

No, they didn't show him regenerating. His clothes were tattered, but he was fine when he caught Nathan. However, Ted went nuclear in Company Man and caused a huge explosion (not quite as big as the New York explosion, it would seem). He seemed just fine the next time we saw him. That's why the rule of Ted is named as it is. A radioactive explosion can't hurt the person who is exploding, regardless of whether or not they can regenerate. As Joe Pokaski and Aron Coleite said, "the oven can't be hurt by the heat". -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:32, 25 December 2008 (EST)

Nathan Sylar

I think we got a little problem here, what are we going to do with "Nathan"? He always uses multiple abilities if he uses an ability as Nathan. (Shape shifting and one other ability). So are going to put a stub there or are we going to put it at the note section?-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 07:17, 25 December 2009 (EST)

• I'm assuming the ability of shape shifting is the ability to change into another form, so the actual ability is only active when a transformation is in progress not when the user has taken on another form, if that makes sense. - Jenx222 | U / T / C | <inlcudeonly>08:00, 7 January 2012 (EST) 07:24, 25 December 2009 (EST)
  • Nah, i dont really agree. and even if you're right, this page still needs a lot of updating.-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 07:31, 25 December 2009 (EST)
    • It's been the standard that shape shifting doesn't count as being used unless the user is actively transforming while using another ability (see the example of Sylar shifting and regeneration at the same time). What updates do you think this page needs, Yoshi? --Radicell 07:38, 25 December 2009 (EST)
      • I think that there has been a lot of simultaneous abilities used in season 4. -- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 07:54, 25 December 2009 (EST)
        • Yeah, in Once Upon a Time in Texas Sylar uses IA and TK to destroy Charlie's blood clot. In Acceptance, Sylar regenerated and shape shifted into himself (although you can't get a pic with that because we didn't see him shape shift). Altes 07:59, 25 December 2009 (EST)
          • What about Sylar trying to transform in himself and using thunder at the same time? does that count? I mean he tried.-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 08:03, 25 December 2009 (EST)
            • In Thanksgiving? I haven't watched it, so it's up to you Altes 08:07, 25 December 2009 (EST)
              • Yeah I think that would count because he was transforming whilst using electric manipulation at the same time. - Jenx222 | U / T / C | <inlcudeonly>08:00, 7 January 2012 (EST) 08:17, 25 December 2009 (EST)
                • Ok, i got 3 of them, does someone knows one more? -- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 08:33, 25 December 2009 (EST)

Notes

I'm not quite sure its correc to say that technocally peter uses two abilities when hes usinsg EM, cause when he uses EM, his dna changes to absorb the ability, so technocally he doesn't use EM when reaching out for a other Ability -- (WaterRatj) 22:58, 28 January 2010 (EST)