Talk:Lydia

Ability?

Her ability links to Empathic mimicry. Is it the same ability? I don't think so, should it not be a separate ability, in which case we have to fix the redirect from empathy. --mc_hammark 03:40, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

• I don't think her ability is empathy. See here for what I have created.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 07:35, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
  • I think her ability is straight up clairvoyance, and that the tattoos are of Samuel's doing. -Vampirate68 | Talk | Contribs | 16:34, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Where did the name empathy come from? To me, it seems like the paint the future ability, except the canvas is someone's skin. Kimera757 19:22, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

It came from some interviews. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 19:32, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Clairvoyance

I really think it's clairvoyance, because after Samuel made a tattoo on Edgar, it was clear that it wasn't her who made the tattoos move - they moved by themselves... Being a clairvoyant like Molly, for instants, she could think of the person, and manifest their face through the tattoos. It's just my opinion really... -- Meteoritu =D- 23:28 September 22.

Ok I just read the Stolen Fate graphic novel and it shows Lydia predicting stuff... So I thought she was a precog, but then I thought "how could she have known WHO had the compass? That's not precognition..." so now I'm thinking, either it's Precognition, either it's Clairvoyance, or - Precognition + Clairvoyance = Empathy... What do you guys think? Once again I hence the fact that her tattoos moving are not a side effect from her ability; that was Samuel's doing. Meteoritu =D-

No need for two sections. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 19:32, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

But in Stolen Fate, she saw baby Claire on fire, an event that happened in 1991. Ohhhhh, Lydia's power makes my brain hurt...--Gibbeynator 21:55, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

• Who says that it was baby Claire? I took it to be Lydia and Edgar's future baby. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:50, 27 September 2009 (EDT)
  • The fire is pretty much what sold it for me as being baby Claire --Gibbeynator 22:54, 27 September 2009 (EDT)
• Isn't the baby on fire supposed to be Amanda? She gave her up as a baby and she was having issues with her ability, which concerns fire. That's what I immediately thought of anyway.--PJDEP 23:25, 11 November 2009 (EST)
• Also, at the end of Acceptance, when Noah appears on Lydia's back, Samuel says something like "Why are you showing me him?" and Lydia says "I show you what you need to see". That scene makes it seems like Lydia, either consciously or through her power, manipulates her tattoos, not Samuel.--PJDEP 23:30, 11 November 2009 (EST)

Her Daughter

I'm really glad it turned out that Amanda was born when Lydia was a teenager. When I found out she had a daughter I was thinking that perhaps Samuel was the father, having "forced" himself upon her. That would also give a reason as to why both Lydia and Edgar seem to hate Samuel. Josh KorolenkoUTChronicles

Straluzza

She don't is supposed to have the same name of his daughter? and his sister?

• It's possible that Strazzulla is Carol's married name, and that Amanda took the name when Carol took her in. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:36, 18 October 2009 (EDT)

Lydia's caravan

Lydia does have her own caravan with a good picture of it, should we make a page for it? --Yoshi n1 17:42, 11 November 2009 (EST)

Can't we find a better picture for her?

I mean, the one we use now is pretty much just a shot of Dawn isn't it? Surely could we not use a screencap? There has to be a decent one by now.--- (Evil Maldini)--- November 30th 2009, 16:35 GMT.

• I agree, the quality of this picture isn't that good and there has to be a better one.-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 11:36, 30 November 2009 (EST)
• Perhaps this one?--- (Evil Maldini)--- November 30th 2009, 17:44 GMT.
  • I add it, we will see if they like it :)-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 13:14, 30 November 2009 (EST)
    • We should take that picture, it's much better.-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 13:19, 30 November 2009 (EST)
      • I like it. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 13:22, 30 November 2009 (EST)
        • I like it, but I think it would be much better if we can get the picture zoomed out slightly so that the entire outline of her head is in the shot. - Jenx222 | U / T / C 13:26, 30 November 2009 (EST)
          • Where's the picture from? (you made it yourself or from the web)-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 13:34, 30 November 2009 (EST)
            • Should we just change it? everybody seems to agree and its MUCH better-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 13:49, 30 November 2009 (EST)
              • I could zoom it out for you... --- (Evil Maldini)--- November 30th 2009, 18:56 GMT.
                • If you wouldn't mind, it's just so we can see her entire head in the shot. If that's done then I'm sure it will be fine to use as the main image. - Jenx222 | U / T / C 13:58, 30 November 2009 (EST)
                  • Done. Here. (Evil Maldini)--- November 30th 2009, 19:05 GMT.
                    • It's better but it isn't the right size.-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 14:06, 30 November 2009 (EST)
                      • It looks the same, just a little stretched, lol, what's the link for the original image? - Jenx222 | U / T / C 14:07, 30 November 2009 (EST)
                        • Evilmaldini, just upload the original image with the original size and Jenx will fix it (atleast i think lol) -- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 14:10, 30 November 2009 (EST)
                          • Oh, for some reason I wasn't seeing the new image, just the old one stretched, lol, Looks better - Jenx222 | U / T / C 14:13, 30 November 2009 (EST)
                            • Oh me to lol, lets add it to lydia's page?-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 14:15, 30 November 2009 (EST)
                              • Try now. I've sorted it (I think!) Here. (Evil Maldini)--- November 30th 2009, 19:15 GMT.
• Oh, and I'm not sure it matters, but if it does, that image is taken from the episode Ink. (Evil Maldini)--- November 30th 2009, 19:23 GMT.
  • It matters sort of, i will ad it to the describtion of the image now :)-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 14:25, 30 November 2009 (EST)
    • This is a good picture but we should really be able to see the outline of her entire head, we should leave it as it is for now - Jenx222 | U / T / C 14:49, 30 November 2009 (EST)

For more info on the image: Image_talk:Dawn_oliveri_lydia_season_4.jpg i like the new image too, but it ain't a promo. -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C) 14:16, 1 December 2009 (EST)

• Until we do that should suffice. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 14:21, 1 December 2009 (EST)
  • I scoured the web for the screenshots and could only find up to Shadowboxing. There might be some decent ones from Brother's Keeper or The Fifth Stage when they surface, but from the ones I could find that was the only one which showed her clearly without Samuel's shoulder or something like that in it. I agree it isn't perfect, but at least it says "Lydia" and not "a random shot of Dawn Olivieri". I'm sure a promo will be along soon.--Evil Maldini 14:34, 1 December 2009 (EST)
    • I'll see what i can find :D -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C) 14:38, 1 December 2009 (EST)
      • Now look at this what i found :D

        

        Promo?

        . Found it at http://www.accidentalsexiness.com/wp-content/gallery/heroes-tabula-rasa-101309/heroes6.jpg. Should we now use this image? -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C) 14:45, 1 December 2009 (EST)
        • This looks more like an out of character photo, as if she's in an interval between shootings. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 14:54, 1 December 2009 (EST)
          • And her face is turned to the side so we can't see half of it, and the glass doesn't help. --mc_hammark 14:55, 1 December 2009 (EST)
          • Actually no... this is from Tabula Rasa. It's on nbc.com too, only smaller. And we use those all the time. -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C) 14:58, 1 December 2009 (EST)
            • Shouldn't a profile image be more... neutral though? Like an ID photo, or as close to it? --Evil Maldini 17:27, 1 December 2009 (EST)

Fortune teller in iStory

So Lydia is a fortune teller, and uses her empathy to tell others their destiny. Now let's go back to Stolen Fate. The previous fortune teller said she tells her visitors what they want to hear. She said that Lydia's power polluted her crystal. And her phrase "that wasn't my power, girl, it was yours" makes me think she and Lydia have the same ability - empathy. AltesUTC CH 04:28, 17 December 2009 (EST)