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I bet y'all have noticed this, but does this power reside in the blood or in the brain? If in the brain, as we originally believed, then transferring the blood to another wounded person should have no effect. If in the blood, Claire and Peter should have been able to recover from having objects lodged in their skulls, because the ability is certainly capable of removing foreign objects (mostly bullets, but shards of glass have been pushed out too). |
I bet y'all have noticed this, but does this power reside in the blood or in the brain? If in the brain, as we originally believed, then transferring the blood to another wounded person should have no effect. If in the blood, Claire and Peter should have been able to recover from having objects lodged in their skulls, because the ability is certainly capable of removing foreign objects (mostly bullets, but shards of glass have been pushed out too). |
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*Or, more than likely, it takes both brains and blood to make the power work. That's also keeping somewhat in check with the laws of biology, I suppose. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:21, 4 December 2007 (EST) |
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| Ability Naming Conventions | |
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| The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order: | |
| Episodes | |
| 2. Near-canon Sources | Webisodes, Graphic Novels, iStories, Heroes Evolutions |
| 3. Secondary Sources | Episode commentary, Interviews, Heroes: Survival |
| 4. Common names for abilities | Names from other works |
| 5. Descriptions of abilities | Descriptions |
| 6. Possessor's name | If no non-speculative description is possible |
| Source/Explanation | |
| "Rapid cell regeneration" is named in the Genesis Files. | |
The caption states that it's Claire's sixth attempt jumping off the refinery. While she says it's "attempt number six", how do we know the first five attempts weren't something different? Her list of injuries implies they were, as does Lyle's viewing of the tape.--Hardvice (talk) 23:43, 10 December 2006 (EST)
- Actually, I always assumed that was her first jump since I would assume by the 6th time Zach wouldn't have been freaking out so much. I'd definitely take out the part about it specifically being her 6th attempt at jumping since that's just a guess. (Admin 23:49, 10 December 2006 (EST))
- Good point, sorry to speculate. Removed. Thanks! :) - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:05, 11 December 2006 (EST)
- It actually a lot likes regeneration ability of Wolverine.
- There's way too many examples. We should keep them limited to 10 at the most.
- See here for discussion.
- Looked to me again last night like there's an inconsistancy in Claire's ability (atleast in the special effects portrayal of it). When she cut her arm with the knife, it healed as any normal cuts would have, only much faster (including the appearance of scar tissue around the wound). This seems inconsistant with other times (like when the blood was "sucked" back in after Lyle stapled her). I have to wonder what would happen if she lost a limb (based on what we've seen, I don't think it's just grow back) or worse... exploded.--Yoshie (talk) 23:43, 06 February 2007 (EST)
- In The Kindness of Strangers, Claire tells West that she used to jump off the refinery to see what she could do. This implies that previous attempts were of the same action. --DismantleRepair 01:38, 26 October 2007 (EDT)
Spontaneous Regeneration
Shouldn't the title of this article be called Spontaneous Regeneration, seeing as it is refered to by that name in the show.--The Empath 21:55, 9 February 2007 (EST)
- I could have sworn this has come up before, but I couldn't find the discussion. They've called it a number of things within the show. Chandra's file lists it as "Rapid call regeneration" so that's why it was named that. (Admin 22:11, 9 February 2007 (EST))
- They've used both. The Genesis files call it RCR, and we know that's in reference to Claire because you can briefly see "Odessa, TX" inside the folder. Either is probably fine.--Hardvice (talk) 22:13, 9 February 2007 (EST)
- The word spontaneous means "happening without external cause". With that considered, the concept of "Spontaneous Regeneration" is nonsense -- healing happens in response to an injury. If it's spontaneous, then there's no injury, and therefore nothing to be healed. Stevie-O 02:39, 31 March 2007 (EDT)
- Exactly. She doesn't say "cut, heal!", or make it heal in any way. It heals by itself. Thus, it's spontaneous. --Heroe!(talk) (contribs) 10:44, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
Examples page
Okay, the examples were getting a bit long. We've had the discussion before, so I thought I'd give it a go and trim this down to 10-12 examples. I tried to keep the most illustrative examples, the most memorable, or the ones that were just really cool. For the gallery, I basically kept the most bloody ones, which means they don't exactly match the examples listed on the page. I also provided a link to the examples page. I'm open to suggestions on how this can be tweaked. If we like it, we can keep it. (I'll do space-time manipulation when I get home tonight.) If it's no good, of course we can get rid of it. Thoughts? — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:34, 1 March 2007 (EST)
- I like what you've done, but I doubt we need to have the same introductory information on the the examples page. I'll make a quick change there and you can tell me what you think. --Ted C 16:06, 1 March 2007 (EST)
- Thanks. Yeah, I agree, I just threw that in there real quickly. The infobox was mostly just to have something, but it looks fine without. I added Category:Powers. I'll go ahead and work on a few other powers momentarily. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:56, 1 March 2007 (EST)
- This looks great! Excellent solution, and you know how much I love me some list articles with long names...--Hardvice (talk) 18:13, 1 March 2007 (EST)
Kensei or Adam?
Should be be listing him by his alias or the name he's apparently been using in the more modern times? I did send a question to CBR for Behind the Eclipse asking if Adam was Kensei's original name but since the page seems to talk about the legend more than the man I suggest we change it to Adam. --PeterDawson 00:08, 6 November 2007 (EST)
Shorter Name?
Didn't Mohinder give a shorter name in Out of Time? -Lөvөl 14:09, 12 November 2007 (EST)
- He parroted what Bob said. The name was on a folder in one of the first episodes. (The link is a joke. I still don't agree with the parroting thing)--Riddler 14:13, 12 November 2007 (EST)
- Well both are authorities on the subject. Did he call it just "cellular regeneration"? -Lөvөl 12:11, 14 November 2007 (EST)
- Technically, every human being has cellular regeneration. It's just that Claire, as well as Adam and Peter, can heal rapidly. Thus, the name is rapid cell regeneration; I think the adjective 'rapid' is absolutely necessary. I think rapid cellular generation would be appropriate too, but 'cell' is just a shortened word for 'cellular'.--Ice Vision 15:44, 14 November 2007 (EST)
- Well both are authorities on the subject. Did he call it just "cellular regeneration"? -Lөvөl 12:11, 14 November 2007 (EST)
Peter's Tattoo
Is it appropriate to mention here that Peter's tattoo disappeared? Rather, is that defined enough as a result of his regeneration that it's ok to mention here? For what it's worth, there's a relevant quote in Ultimate X-Men, from Wolverine, saying that, "Tats are basically scars, 'Ro. They only last a few hours on me before my healing factor rubs 'em out." (And I'm nerd enough to have memorized it.) I think the tattoos' disappearance is safe to put down as regeneration... --Spellingbee 00:08, 23 November 2007 (EST)
- Yes, there's no other explanation for it other than the fact that Peter's body returns to its normal state. However, I wouldn't put it on this page, I'd put it in the examples of rapid cell regeneration. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:40, 24 November 2007 (EST)
Limits Section
Shouldn't the limits section include the fact that if a person is wounded in the head, they can't regenerate? Just a thought.
- It does, it just isn't made to stand out. Reason being (to my knowledge); it is a claim made by Adam that hasn't been confirmed by being shown in the show yet.--SacValleyDweller (talk) 01:08, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- By the way, this is more a matter of word choice than anything else, but a person wounded in the head can regenerate. Even a person wounded in the brain can regenerate. Adam said you can' come back from having your head blown off. I think it states that pretty clearly in the article, but I'm just bringing it up as a point of clarification. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 06:29, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- Also I think we should move the statement from the Aging-topic to either "Limits" or "Healing". Not being able to regenerate, after the person got their head cut/blown off hasn't to do anything with aging. BloodyFox 12:28, 29 November 2007 (CEST)
Blood or Brain?
I bet y'all have noticed this, but does this power reside in the blood or in the brain? If in the brain, as we originally believed, then transferring the blood to another wounded person should have no effect. If in the blood, Claire and Peter should have been able to recover from having objects lodged in their skulls, because the ability is certainly capable of removing foreign objects (mostly bullets, but shards of glass have been pushed out too).
- Or, more than likely, it takes both brains and blood to make the power work. That's also keeping somewhat in check with the laws of biology, I suppose. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:21, 4 December 2007 (EST)