Episode talk:I Am Become Death

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The title might be a reference to Oppenheimer quoting the Bhagavad Gita when the first nuclear test "Trinity" was successful: "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." --Juba 09:22, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

• What a GREAT title to this episode! Sylar represents Oppenheimer quoting it. Mohinder is Indian and becomes a deadly creature... the quote is from the Bhagavad Gita, an Indian Text. Peter "becomes Death" in a way by taking Sylar's power... Great! --Action Figure 10:36, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

Oh, my.

• This episode so far is ridiculous. I love it. Niki, Barbara, and Tracy weren't born with abilities, but were given them. Tracy can reverse her freezing. Future Peter hints that Nathan, Claire, and Mohinder (well, obviously Mohinder) were also not born with abilities. Present Peter knocks the Haitian the hell out. Claire is a villain working with Knox and Daphne; Peter seemingly copied Flint's blue flames... and Sylar has turned around entirely, and this is only in the first twenty minutes.--Riddler 21:23, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
• I just shouted... DAMN.--Riddler 21:33, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
  • The preview for next episode made me say that :O - Cael 22:03, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
  • That explosion blew me away. No pun intended. I mean, seriously. I swear to God, my heart stopped for a second there. That was probably one of the most exciting moments in all of Heroes. And I think this has been the best episode so far. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:10, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
    • Incredible episode. I missed the preview for the next one, though... the explosion (the reason FOR the explosion) made me sad... JackOfBloodyHearts 22:14, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
      • I can't believe they killed a kid on TV. You can't do that! :O--Riddler 22:14, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
        • I think this is my favorite episode thus far this season...very nicely choreographed. I also liked Nathan saving Tracy's life.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:47, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
• Y'know, I'm not so sure Claire and the others are the villains in this situation. I mean, just look at Daphne... Then again, I don't think FP was either. Perhaps each side thinks they're doing good... but of course the other side thinks the other is doing bad... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:25, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
  • That's what the premise was behind Magneto, Stan Lee wanted a villain who truly thought what he was doing was for the better. Dracomaster4 22:35, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
• I have a problem with the morgue scene with the two peters. When the Hatian leaves, why doesn't Scarred Peter pop the bullets out and regenerate? We've seen that he can be dead for a while and then come back, and also that he is unable to die if he has Claire's power. Once Past Peter is able to use his powers again, Scar Peter should be able to also.
  • Scarred Peter is unconscious. In S1, it worked cause his body passively absorbed Claire's ability. In this example, Claire wasn't around without the presence of the Haitian, so future Peter's body couldn't do that. In addition, I wouldn't be surprised if Claire took additional measures once she secured future Peter's body.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:43, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
    • "Peter is dead." - Present Peter. --Riddler 13:36, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

Exposed or villains... we should decide before making changes

• Before we make the mass changes necessary, we should decide where to do them. I was under the impression this was the exposed future, not the villains one... Stevehim 22:12, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Aren't they one and the same? That's what FP said, he tried to change it, but it didn't change 'cause someone is still putting the formula together in present time... JackOfBloodyHearts 22:14, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
    • Yeah, I think we should "merge" those two futures and all references to them. Technically, there were three explosion futures that were shown centering around the destruction of New York in November 2006. Now there are at least two exposed futures centering on the revelation and development of superpowers.--Tim Thomason 22:17, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
      • I agree. I posed this to a patroller yesterday (see Ryan's talk page), but now we kinda need to decide, as the changes are going to span upwards of 20 pages. Stevehim 22:18, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
      • Wasn't the future Hiro traveled to really the only "Villains" future? And since we don't yet know if that was a true Villains future or just the exposed future, we can't say for sure. It could even possibly the same thing, since the future that Hiro sees seems to take place before the future we see in this episode. But for the future we saw in this episode... I'm pretty sure this is the exposed future, which in turn caused the rise of many new villains. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 23:02, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
        • Wasn't the exposed future only caused by Nathan revealing he had powers. Since that didn't happen, isn't this one a different one (unless Peter can teleport to alternate realities). I remember on another show that it's still an alternate reality even if there are minor differences. I think that this is a different future than the one Future Peter came from even though they're similar. --Dman dustin 06:17, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
          • I agree, I think. In the old future, evolved humans were persecuted... now in this one, evolved humans are everywhere. I think it's an entirely different future that centers around Mohinder's serum and the Company formula... but then which future is future Peter from? Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 08:04, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
          • Yeah to me it seems different from the exposed future. It seems to be basically the same one as the villains future although 'villains future' probably isn't a good name. I would call it something like the formula future or abilities future. But I don't see it as the exposed future as they were never exposed and persecuted. Instead people were just given abilities through the formula. The Shadow 15:43, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

New actors and characters

Mark Vanselow (image)

Mohinder's neighbor (image)

Katherine Kirkpatrick (image)

Mohinder's neighbor's wife (image)

Thomas Robinson (image)

Noah Gray (image)

Still need a bunch of pictures...more to come later! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:10, 6 October 2008 (EDT)

Link The German, Dr. Zimmerman and Barbara together? OK!

• [1] --Action Figure
  • Wow, what a catch. We can't be sure if that's Niki or Barbara though, albeit Barbara being the more likely.--Riddler 00:01, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

...Summary?

Looks like we've got another One of Us, One of Them on our hands... Seriously, who's writing these anachronistic summaries? Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 08:02, 7 October 2008 (EDT)