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| If this power is used on Peter, his ability will be strong enough to absorb the Haitian's ability. || None. || {{plus}} Ando was able to send Daphne back in time. |
| If this power is used on Peter, his ability will be strong enough to absorb the Haitian's ability. || None. || {{plus}} Ando was able to send Daphne back in time. If this ability is strong enough to cause her to exceed the speed of light, it should be strong enough to allow absorption of ''any'' power.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Arthur displayed the Haitian's ability after stealing Peter's powers, and Peter had been exposed to the Haitian without him blocking Peter's abilities.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Arthur displayed the Haitian's ability after stealing Peter's powers, and Peter had been exposed to the Haitian without him blocking Peter's abilities.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Arthur was using advanced telepathy, as shown in "Villains". |
::{{plus}} Arthur was using advanced telepathy, as shown in "Villains". Peter has yet to gain the Haitians power as it dampens Peters power of absorption without having to concentrate (which supercharged empathic mimicry would overpower). Arthur would have been able to negate Sylar's telekinesis and stop himself being killed, or at least be immune to the Haitian's powers if he had gained them off of Peter.<br /> |
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{{note}} Peter ''has'' been in the Haitian's presence without him blocking Peter's abilities: when he and Noah tried to bag Peter and Claude, Peter was able to use his powers in the Haitian's presence, therefore, he was exposed to the Haitian's ability.<br /> |
{{note}} Peter ''has'' been in the Haitian's presence without him blocking Peter's abilities: when he and Noah tried to bag Peter and Claude, Peter was able to use his powers in the Haitian's presence, therefore, he was exposed to the Haitian's ability.<br /> |
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| If this power is used on the Haitian, his ability will be strong enough to stop all powers within a city, and possibly knocking everyone out. || None. || {{plus}} Ando was able to allow Matt to hear the thoughts of everyone in the city. |
| If this power is used on the Haitian, his ability will be strong enough to stop all powers within a city, and possibly knocking everyone out. || None. || {{plus}} Ando was able to allow Matt to hear the thoughts of everyone in the city. If this ability is strong enough to cause him to read everyones mind in a whole city, it should allow the Haitian to have the same coverage.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Ando my not be able to use his power near the Haitian.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Ando my not be able to use his power near the Haitian.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} The Haitian can chose whether to block an ability or not.<br /> |
::{{plus}} The Haitian can chose whether to block an ability or not.<br /> |
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| This ability works by increasing the [[adrenaline]] in one's system, and in evolved humans this alters their [[abilities]]. || [[Paulette]] stated that "if she used [her] power at 100%, it would kill [[Brendan Lewis|him]]".<br>After [[Sylar]] injected [[Meredith]] with a dosage of [[adrenaline]] her [[pyrokinesis|power]] increased uncontrollably.<br>[[Mohinder]] stated "a person's abilities lies in their adrenal glands". || {{plus}} Ando may have very well knocked [[Hiro]] out in the future by overdosing his endocrine system.<br /> |
| This ability works by increasing the [[adrenaline]] in one's system, and in evolved humans this alters their [[abilities]]. || [[Paulette]] stated that "if she used [her] power at 100%, it would kill [[Brendan Lewis|him]]".<br>After [[Sylar]] injected [[Meredith]] with a dosage of [[adrenaline]] her [[pyrokinesis|power]] increased uncontrollably.<br>[[Mohinder]] stated "a person's abilities lies in their adrenal glands". || {{plus}} Ando may have very well knocked [[Hiro]] out in the future by overdosing his endocrine system.<br /> |
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| [[Ando Masahashi|Ando]]'s [[Ability supercharging|ability]] has a byproduct of [[Electric manipulation|lightning]]. || [[Ando Masahashi ( |
| [[Ando Masahashi|Ando]]'s [[Ability supercharging|ability]] has a byproduct of [[Electric manipulation|lightning]]. || [[Ando Masahashi (exposed future)|Future Ando]] could release an apparently fatal blast of red lightning. || {{plus}} [[Accelerated probability]] has [[super speed]] as a byproduct ability. There is nothing to contradict that other abilities cannot also have byproducts.<br /> |
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{{minus}} There is nothing to indicate that the energy directed at Hiro was fatal.<br /> |
{{minus}} There is nothing to indicate that the energy directed at Hiro was fatal.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Aside from Ando believing it would create an effective weapon, and when used knocking Hiro to the ground, motionless. There is no reason to assume he was dead, and he may have simply been unconscious.<br /> |
:{{note}} Aside from Ando believing it would create an effective weapon, and when used knocking Hiro to the ground, motionless. There is no reason to assume he was dead, and he may have simply been unconscious.<br /> |
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| [[Ando]]'s [[Ability supercharging|ability]] is dangerous to people without [[ability|abilities]]. || None. || {{plus}} In the present, Hiro has lost his powers. |
| [[Ando]]'s [[Ability supercharging|ability]] is dangerous to people without [[ability|abilities]]. || None. || {{plus}} In the present, Hiro has lost his powers. He may still be powerless in the future, when Ando uses his ability to attack -- and apparently kill -- Hiro.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} He could have been helping Hiro, not attacking him.<br /> |
:{{minus}} He could have been helping Hiro, not attacking him.<br /> |
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| If Ando's ability augments itself, it can cause a deadly ray. || In the [[Exposed Future]] we see [[Future Ando|Ando]] killing [[Hiro Nakamura (exposed future)|Hiro]], with a red beam. || {{plus}} If it's in fact the same ability we see, in the present and in the future, then we see the ability in the future augmenting anything. |
| If Ando's ability augments itself, it can cause a deadly ray. || In the [[Exposed Future]] we see [[Future Ando|Ando]] killing [[Hiro Nakamura (exposed future)|Hiro]], with a red beam. || {{plus}} If it's in fact the same ability we see, in the present and in the future, then we see the ability in the future augmenting anything. This could create some kind of malfunction, causing the ability to be lethal.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} The ability is in fact very powerful. |
:{{plus}} The ability is in fact very powerful. It is powerful enough to make Daphne run through time.<br /> |
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::{{note}} If Ando amplifies an ability too much it could be possible for that person to overload and die or collapse from the overwhelming feel of their ability, e.g., Matt's telepathy being amplified too much could cause him to have a brain hemorrhage.<br /> |
::{{note}} If Ando amplifies an ability too much it could be possible for that person to overload and die or collapse from the overwhelming feel of their ability, e.g., Matt's telepathy being amplified too much could cause him to have a brain hemorrhage.<br /> |
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{{minus}} We do not know if Future Hiro was killed by Future Ando. |
{{minus}} We do not know if Future Hiro was killed by Future Ando. Perhaps he was helping Hiro in some way.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The [[Ability immunity|Rule of Ted]] does sometimes apply to beneficial effects of some abilities. |
{{minus}} The [[Ability immunity|Rule of Ted]] does sometimes apply to beneficial effects of some abilities. So Ando could be unable to augment his own power.<br /> |
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| Ando's ability will be the cause of world destruction. || None. || {{plus}} If Ando supercharges Peter's ability, then he would end up absorbing the abilities of a whole city. And as stated by Mohinder once, Peter is like a sponge; he's not just copying the ability, he's absorbing it. |
| Ando's ability will be the cause of world destruction. || None. || {{plus}} If Ando supercharges Peter's ability, then he would end up absorbing the abilities of a whole city. And as stated by Mohinder once, Peter is like a sponge; he's not just copying the ability, he's absorbing it. And this super absorption would make him end up like Kirby Plaza again, but this time it's not just the whole city, it's the whole world.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} It's unlikely that there would be enough people with abilities in Peter's vicinity to cause him to explode, if this were to happen.<br /> |
:{{minus}} It's unlikely that there would be enough people with abilities in Peter's vicinity to cause him to explode, if this were to happen.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} If Peter's ability is amplified, his mimicking range would increase a lot. |
::{{plus}} If Peter's ability is amplified, his mimicking range would increase a lot. Matt only touched Hiro for a moment and heard an entire city. If Peter held longer, his range could go beyond that.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} There's nothing yet to indicate that touching Ando longer would amplify an ability more. |
:::{{minus}} There's nothing yet to indicate that touching Ando longer would amplify an ability more. Perhaps it just makes the amplification last longer.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} He would have to absorb many abilities that can have explosive properties. |
:{{minus}} He would have to absorb many abilities that can have explosive properties. That many people with that type of ability in one location is not likely.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Not necessarily. He would just need too much of something; in this case that would be abilities. |
::{{plus}} Not necessarily. He would just need too much of something; in this case that would be abilities. Power a light bulb with a nuclear powerplant and it goes boom.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} It seems unlikely that Peter absorbing many abilities with non-explosive properties at once would cause him to destroy the world. E.g., if Peter were to absorb the abilities of 1000 people with an ability like [[lie detection]] simultaneously, it seems unlikely that Peter would explode and destroy the entire Earth. |
:::{{minus}} It seems unlikely that Peter absorbing many abilities with non-explosive properties at once would cause him to destroy the world. E.g., if Peter were to absorb the abilities of 1000 people with an ability like [[lie detection]] simultaneously, it seems unlikely that Peter would explode and destroy the entire Earth. A lot of damage could occur if he absorbed some more potent abilities, but still unlikely to destroy the world.<br /> |
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{{plus}} If Peter were to regain [[induced radioactivity]] from someone and mimic Ando's ability to amplify it, then that in itself would probably be enough to create an explosion big enough to split the world in two.<br /> |
{{plus}} If Peter were to regain [[induced radioactivity]] from someone and mimic Ando's ability to amplify it, then that in itself would probably be enough to create an explosion big enough to split the world in two.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} If Peter did not even mimic Ando's ability and Ando simply used his ability on Peter while he used [[induced radioactivity]], that in itself could be enough to do this.<br /> |
:{{plus}} If Peter did not even mimic Ando's ability and Ando simply used his ability on Peter while he used [[induced radioactivity]], that in itself could be enough to do this.<br /> |
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| If this power is used on [[space-time manipulation]], it would cause time to stop ''completely'' for the space-time manipulation user, causing them to die. || None. || {{note}} When users of space-time manipulation "stop" time, they actually do not stop it completely. According to the writers, they slow it down to "whatever a nano of nano is."<br /> |
| If this power is used on [[space-time manipulation]], it would cause time to stop ''completely'' for the space-time manipulation user, causing them to die. || None. || {{note}} When users of space-time manipulation "stop" time, they actually do not stop it completely. According to the writers, they slow it down to "whatever a nano of nano is."<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Could it not just slow down further to fractions of picoseconds, etc.?<br /> |
:{{minus}} Could it not just slow down further to fractions of picoseconds, etc.?<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Daphne only traveled a few minutes back in time when she grabbed Ando. |
::{{plus}} Daphne only traveled a few minutes back in time when she grabbed Ando. It was only when Ando actually focused his energy that they were able to travel back sixteen years. In the case of space-time manipulation, it is certainly possible that time could be slowed down further to fractions of picoseconds, if the ability was lightly supercharged like Daphne's ability was when she traveled back in time a few minutes. However, if Ando focused his ability into the same blast that Hiro saw in the future, it is more plausible that a supercharge of that strength could stop time completely for space-time manipulators.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} It is also possible it could just slow time down further to fractions of femtoseconds or even yoctoseconds, etc.<br /> |
:::{{minus}} It is also possible it could just slow time down further to fractions of femtoseconds or even yoctoseconds, etc.<br /> |
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::::{{plus}} There must be a point where time ceases to be time anymore, and is instead frozen time.<br /> |
::::{{plus}} There must be a point where time ceases to be time anymore, and is instead frozen time.<br /> |
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:::::{{minus}} Yes, but that does not mean that if this power were amplified, that freezing time completely could be attained. |
:::::{{minus}} Yes, but that does not mean that if this power were amplified, that freezing time completely could be attained. It would most likely only just slow it down to infinitesimally small fractions of time.<br /> |
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::::::{{note}} Theoretically, slowing down time to any fraction beyond the [[Wikipedia:Planck time|Planck time]] is meaningless. |
::::::{{note}} Theoretically, slowing down time to any fraction beyond the [[Wikipedia:Planck time|Planck time]] is meaningless.<br /> |
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{{plus}} This would possibly explain why Hiro was killed in the future.<br /> |
{{plus}} This would possibly explain why Hiro was killed in the future.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Given the nature of time travel and teleportation, it seems unlikely that they could be amplified. |
{{plus}} Given the nature of time travel and teleportation, it seems unlikely that they could be amplified. Therefore, the ability to freeze time must be the one that is amplified.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Maybe it can allow someone to time travel to alternate timelines, or to teleport to other planes of existence, perhaps with more dimensions.<br /> |
:{{note}} Maybe it can allow someone to time travel to alternate timelines, or to teleport to other planes of existence, perhaps with more dimensions.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Freezing time completely does not necessarily mean that the user would die.<br /> |
{{minus}} Freezing time completely does not necessarily mean that the user would die.<br /> |
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| If this power were used on [[space-time manipulation]], it would give a person the ability to travel to alternate timelines, parallel universes, or teleport to other planes of existence. || None. || {{plus}} This could be used to bring [[Caitlin]] back, even though the writers would probably not bother doing that.<br/> |
| If this power were used on [[space-time manipulation]], it would give a person the ability to travel to alternate timelines, parallel universes, or teleport to other planes of existence. || None. || {{plus}} This could be used to bring [[Caitlin]] back, even though the writers would probably not bother doing that.<br/> |
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{{note}} We will probably never know, as the writers have conveniently removed all occurrences of [[space-time manipulation]] in people with abilities. |
{{note}} We will probably never know, as the writers have conveniently removed all occurrences of [[space-time manipulation]] in people with abilities. While it is conceivable that Hiro might at some point find a last surviving vial of the formula serum, the writers probably don't want to give in to the temptations of the dark-side (time-travel) ever again.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Peter may have regained all of his abilities that had been absorbed previously through [[empathic mimicry]], including [[space-time manipulation]].<br /> |
:{{plus}} Peter may have regained all of his abilities that had been absorbed previously through [[empathic mimicry]], including [[space-time manipulation]].<br /> |
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| If this power is used on Peter, his ability will be strong enough to absorb the Haitian's ability. | None. | + Ando was able to send Daphne back in time. If this ability is strong enough to cause her to exceed the speed of light, it should be strong enough to allow absorption of any power.
• Peter has been in the Haitian's presence without him blocking Peter's abilities: when he and Noah tried to bag Peter and Claude, Peter was able to use his powers in the Haitian's presence, therefore, he was exposed to the Haitian's ability. |
| If this power is used on the Haitian, his ability will be strong enough to stop all powers within a city, and possibly knocking everyone out. | None. | + Ando was able to allow Matt to hear the thoughts of everyone in the city. If this ability is strong enough to cause him to read everyones mind in a whole city, it should allow the Haitian to have the same coverage.
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| If this power is used on Sylar or Peter, they would be unstoppable. | Both are very powerful. | + If either were to have that ability, the multiple abilities they could amplify would make them extremely powerful. - If that power was used on Sylar it would cause him to go deaf - by amplifying his ability of increased hearing so that he can hear all the noises in a city or, worse still, the world.
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| If this ability is used on freezing, it could result in the generation of a temperature of 0K, or absolute zero. | None. | + If enough heat was removed from an object, it could become so cold that all subatomic movement would cease.
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| This is not the same ability Ando displayed in the exposed future. | Although looking similar, they appear to have different effects. | + The future has changed, so maybe the circumstances that made Ando get his ability are different, thus obtaining a different ability in each alternate timeline. - An evolved human's ability is based on their genetics, a change of a timeline wouldn't alter Ando's genetic fingerprint. |
| This ability works by increasing the adrenaline in one's system, and in evolved humans this alters their abilities. | Paulette stated that "if she used [her] power at 100%, it would kill him". After Sylar injected Meredith with a dosage of adrenaline her power increased uncontrollably. Mohinder stated "a person's abilities lies in their adrenal glands". |
+ Ando may have very well knocked Hiro out in the future by overdosing his endocrine system. |
| Ando's ability has a byproduct of lightning. | Future Ando could release an apparently fatal blast of red lightning. | + Accelerated probability has super speed as a byproduct ability. There is nothing to contradict that other abilities cannot also have byproducts. - There is nothing to indicate that the energy directed at Hiro was fatal.
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| Ando's ability is dangerous to people without abilities. | None. | + In the present, Hiro has lost his powers. He may still be powerless in the future, when Ando uses his ability to attack -- and apparently kill -- Hiro.
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| If Ando's ability augments itself, it can cause a deadly ray. | In the Exposed Future we see Ando killing Hiro, with a red beam. | + If it's in fact the same ability we see, in the present and in the future, then we see the ability in the future augmenting anything. This could create some kind of malfunction, causing the ability to be lethal.
- We do not know if Future Hiro was killed by Future Ando. Perhaps he was helping Hiro in some way. |
| Ando's ability will be the cause of world destruction. | None. | + If Ando supercharges Peter's ability, then he would end up absorbing the abilities of a whole city. And as stated by Mohinder once, Peter is like a sponge; he's not just copying the ability, he's absorbing it. And this super absorption would make him end up like Kirby Plaza again, but this time it's not just the whole city, it's the whole world.
+ If Peter were to regain induced radioactivity from someone and mimic Ando's ability to amplify it, then that in itself would probably be enough to create an explosion big enough to split the world in two.
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| If this power is used on space-time manipulation, it would cause time to stop completely for the space-time manipulation user, causing them to die. | None. | • When users of space-time manipulation "stop" time, they actually do not stop it completely. According to the writers, they slow it down to "whatever a nano of nano is."
+ This would possibly explain why Hiro was killed in the future.
- Freezing time completely does not necessarily mean that the user would die.
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| If this power were used on space-time manipulation, it would give a person the ability to travel to alternate timelines, parallel universes, or teleport to other planes of existence. | None. | + This could be used to bring Caitlin back, even though the writers would probably not bother doing that. • We will probably never know, as the writers have conveniently removed all occurrences of space-time manipulation in people with abilities. While it is conceivable that Hiro might at some point find a last surviving vial of the formula serum, the writers probably don't want to give in to the temptations of the dark-side (time-travel) ever again.
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| If this power supercharges itself, it will become "ability manipulation", and will allow the user to further amplify, mimic, or remove an evolved human's ability. | None. | + How else will the ability to supercharge be amplified? • It could create a supercharging loop, which could make an interesting plot device. |
| Supercharged rapid cell regeneration can heal wounds to the brain even if it has an object lodged in it. | None. | + It would be a logical effect to expect. - It is assumed that an object lodged in the correct part of the brain is preventing the power from working altogether, as the brain controls the power. Supercharging a power that isn't working will do nothing.
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| Supercharged abilities makes a person more resistant to mental manipulation, unless mental manipulation is being supercharged as well. | None. | + The Haitian had trouble containing Arthur Petrelli because he was too powerful. An evolved human with a supercharged ability is also very powerful. • It should only prevent the power being blocked by mental manipulation. Other manipulation, e.g. memory wiping, would not be prevented. |
| A supercharged space-time manipulator is allowed to alter reality, bringing to "his" actual timeline fragments of other places, times or timelines. | None. | - Nothing suggests that. |
| If this power is used on an evolved human with an ability that they are immune to, the supercharged power will be strong enough to overcome the immunity. | None. | + When Paulette supercharged Brendan Lewis, he was killed by his amplified ability. • Technically, Lewis didn't die; he ceased to be a human being and became vegetation. |
| If this power is used on Monica Dawson she will be able to copy other people's abilities. | None. | + She can copy difficult to almost impossible things. - Her ability is adoptive muscle memory, and many abilities have nothing to do with muscles.
• It has been stated that Monica is only capable of doing what a normal human can do. Now whether or not a supercharge can change that statement to fit the actions of evolved humans is unknown. |
| If ability supercharging is supercharged, it can have an effect similar to non-depowering eclipses. | None. | + It is a logical way to supercharge the ability, causing it to activate dormant abilities in those who possess it, either naturally or synthetically. |
| Ando's ability will kill himself, but create enough power to save the world | None. | + If Ando super-charges himself, his super-charging ability would be stronger. Therefore he can supercharge himself again, making it stronger, and enter a loop that won't stop until he supercharges somebody else. + Hiro and Ando, together, used Hiro's ability to save the world. With Hiro now powerless, it would be Ando, of the two, who has to save the world. |
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