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Rename: Predatory instincts

I think the ability name should be changed to this because that was what it looked like to me in the webisode. - Biohazard, 1 January 2009 15:11 (GMT).

  • Predatory instincts... I like that. I can't really think of a way that anything contradicts this; it seems pretty accurate. --Whizzles 10:21, 1 January 2009 (EST)
    • I don't think we know enough about it to give it a name. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:10, 1 January 2009 (EST)
      • Fair enough. Hopefully Part 4 will shed some light on this. --Whizzles 13:42, 1 January 2009 (EST)
        • It reminds me of Red Eye's ability, but reversed, giving David primal rage instead of the people around him. --WeatherWitch 14:00, 1 January 2009 (EST)
          • I think that his ability is like the bersurker from Evangelion, he loose all control and gains incredible strentgh and speed. Halfbreed1426 01:39, 2 January 2009

Sorry, but...

...I find the description of the ability funny. "David's ability is the ability to growl and charge at others viciously with red-colored eyes." Haha, I could do that, I'd just need some red-colored contacts. :) But I guess it is what it is. -- Mike N. 12:39, 1 January 2009 (EST)

  • Yeah, I laughed too. I think we need to re-word that one. XD --Whizzles 13:42, 1 January 2009 (EST)
    • Quite honestly, that's exactly what we've seen him do. We don't need to change it because nothing about it is inaccurate. Psilaq Remake 18:26, 1 January 2009 (EST)
      • Growling isn't an ability. Anyone can growl. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 18:38, 1 January 2009 (EST)
        • Good point. How about "David's ability is an ability that causes animalistic aggression and red-colored eyes."? Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 19:18, 1 January 2009 (EST)
          • That would be jumping into conclusions. --Litox 19:31, 1 January 2009 (EST)
            • Not really, no. The definition of animalistic is "in the manner of an animal; savage; untamed," which is exactly how David acted. His growling only attributed to his animal-like quality. It's not like I'm saying "let's rename it to animal mimicry" or anything like that. But I think it does fine in terms of the lead description. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 19:33, 1 January 2009 (EST)
              • I agree, we know he became significantly more aggressive and brutally savage in nature. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 20:02, 1 January 2009 (EST)
                • Then let's say that: he became more aggressive and brutally savage in nature. "Animalistic" might fit, but it's a loaded word. We don't want to give the impression that he turned into an animal, and people will read into our choice of words deeper than we want them to. Let's keep it to what we know and to something that's not unintentionally misleading. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:32, 1 January 2009 (EST)

I slightly changed the introduction yesterday. It now reads "that causes great aggression and a change in the user's eye color". That OK? -- Tristan0709 talk 21:49, 2 January 2009 (EST)

  • I wasn't complaining about it... since it is what it is... :| but I think it sounds better now. :) -- Mike N. 21:55, 2 January 2009 (EST)
    • Oops. Didn't intend sarcasm or anger, just checking with everyone. :) -- Tristan0709 talk 22:01, 2 January 2009 (EST)
      • I didn't read any sarcasm or anger in your post. The description sounds good. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:23, 2 January 2009 (EST)

Rename: Primal Rage, Feral Rage or Feral Instincts

Maybe this ability is indeed linked to the Red Eye ability that's featured in the Grafic Novels right now. Or some version of it anyway, but it allows the person with this ability to access primal/feral/animal like senses/stength/instinct .. when the person is exposed or triggers a certain emotion.

But I agree with RGS, it's too early and we know too little about this to actually rename it. But I just wanted to open up some more options. Happy NY everybody !!! DarthYotho 07:28, 2 January 2009 (EST)

I don't think we can understand this abilityyet, it's much too early (similat to Trevors ability). --Irony 07:35, 2 January 2009 (EST)

Lycanthropy?

Some aspects of enhanced physiology?

Increased speed and maybe strength used in takedown displayed.

It could be possible that it's the initial stages of Lycanthropy or Canine Mimicry, Eye color changes, heightened aggression and enhanced speed (not to Daphne's level but faster than a normal human certainly).

Please, no...

No more name suggestions. Please. We know next to nothing about David's ability, thus any name we try to give to it is speculative. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 12:24, 2 January 2009 (EST)

  • How about animal mimicry? Induced ferocity? Werewolfism? Primal rage (II)? Anti-Visine-kinesis? :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:06, 2 January 2009 (EST)
    • Hairless lychantropy? Feral rage? Beast mimicry? Feralkinesis? Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 15:16, 2 January 2009 (EST)
      • There's always Wolfikinesis, Aggression Manipulation, and Anger Mimicry. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 16:08, 2 January 2009 (EST)
    • ...You know, induced ferocity actually does not sound that bad. >.> <.< Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 20:03, 2 January 2009 (EST)
      • Feralkinesis?? It's......different..... -- Tristan0709 talk 21:49, 2 January 2009 (EST)
  • What about ragekinesis, angerkinesis, induced primordial, beast mastery (like the puppet mastery) --Manwithnoname 06:59, 3 January 2009 (EST)
    • I think that would be "beast master" with no y. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:40, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Oy gevalt. You guys suck. :P Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 12:06, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Isn't it possible that

...David's body just wasn't suited to supporting an ability, and as such, it reacted badly within him and made him become what he did? I mean, Angela said something to Nathan like "you could cope with an ability", so perhaps David just couldn't, and the result was that? It's not strictly an ability, then, I suppose.--IotV 17.09, 3 January 2009 (GMT)

  • Very possible. I thought the same thing--that something had gone wrong with him. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:19, 3 January 2009 (EST)
    • Just thought I'd say that this isn't just what I think, it's my opinion on the matter. It was just a bad reaction. But of course, it's speculative, so it must stay the same...sigh... Super-Hiro

I have a few suggestions, too

User:Shadowulf1 10:21, 8 January 2009 (EST) anything with kinesis in the end would be inappropriate and inaccurate, as he manipulates nothing. It doesn't seem to be a type of mimicry either. He seems only to unleash a more feral persona when using this ability. I think the more proper name for this type of ability would be something like Rampant Charge or Charging. Even Feral Mind, Feral Rage, Berserker Rage, or the like. You could even change the name to Primal Rage, and change this page to Primal Rage Inducing like previously suggested.

  • I don't think we know enough about the ability to name it. You've got some good guesses in your post, but after seeing what we saw onscreen, they are all jumping to conclusions. At this point, I think any name other than "David's ability" is speculative. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:52, 8 January 2009 (EST)
    • True, but I think that if the ability is a rage sort of ability then the Primal rage page should be changed to Primal Rage Evocation, and this page should be changed to Primal Rage or Berserker Rage (and if it's another type of ability, then it should not include kinesis, because it manipulates nothing). Wouldn't you agree? User:Shadowulf1 15:36, 8 January 2009 (EST)
      • No. Primal rage was explicitly named by Tim Pope in one of the iStory chapters, so that name shouldn't change. I don't think we know enough about David's ability to give it any name at all. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:40, 8 January 2009 (EST)
        • User:Shadowulf1 09:31, 9 January 2009 (EST) I just meant that if the name fits...

Increased speed?

Shouldn't we note David's increased speed on his ability page? Was it my player, or did it seem as though David almost instantaneously ran away to hide, and then dragged Ryan off super fast?--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:05, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Thats just what i thought, he moved super fast, or like he was fading in and out quickly. I think its something like Berserker, where he gets increased speed and strength and maybe slight camouflage like when he hid taking Ryan, i think the formula may has worked, but he wasn't suited for it and so destroyed his mind rendering it animal like.--Fr0z3nB0nes 14:14, 12 January 2009 (EST)

Similar to Mohinder's Ability?

We know that Mohinder is mimicing the abilities of some kind of bug. And to me, David seems to be mimicing the abilities of a feral beast (possibly some kind of wolf?). Perhaps the two abilities are actually the same thing. They'd unleash an animalistic ability in a human... I dunno what you'd call it, but still, a person who has this could possibly have the powers of say, a meerkat or a narwhal or even a sea otter (lol, what if gave you the powers to be as cute as Mr. Muggles??) Ideas? --Punxas 21:46, 12 January 2009 (EST)

  • I think it's too early to tell. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:01, 12 January 2009 (EST)
    • Part of me thinks that they'll never explain it! Ah, well I'll just wait for part 4! :) --Punxas 22:22, 12 January 2009 (EST)

Primal rage

•Primal rage (Ricardo Silva, David Sullivan): The ability to induce an instinctive and uncontrollable rage in oneself or others, as well as suppressing conscious thought.

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