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Oh, my.

It was a great episode, but very disturbing throughout all of it. Doyle is controlling Emma in the dream. Matt turns on Sylar (granted, Sylar is a deranged killer, but Matt said he saw into his head and knew he meant he wanted to change). Samuel has Eli do the dirty work to a grand scale, then makes sure Lydia knows he did it before she dies?... this episode was extreme.--Riddler 21:59, 25 January 2010 (EST)

• The one stupid thing that stood out to me is that Claire just didn't bother trying to bring Lydia back. They REALLY need to address her ability to revive the dead. Of course, if they did, I'd probably be here complaining that they took the cheap cop-out method to keep Lydia around. Still, one line would have been nice.--Gibbeynator 22:02, 25 January 2010 (EST)
  • I thought it was kind of creepy that Matt was going to live a normal life with his family after putting a serial killer in his wall. A bit odd of a move on Matt's part. I didn't see Doyle controlling Emma though.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 22:03, 25 January 2010 (EST)
    • He was on the right side of the screen as Emma was playing the Cello, moving his arms as if he were playing it, in Peter's dream.--Riddler 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)
      • This was a fantastic episode, but where was Amanda? Her mom was kinda lying there dead, and she was no where to be found?--Ratclaws 22:06, 25 January 2010 (EST)
        • She was hiding out in one of those giant plot holes the writers like to make once in a while.--Gibbeynator 22:12, 25 January 2010 (EST)
        • I was just thinking that. I mean, they can't say she was sleeping through the gunshots and screaming. I suppose Sasha Pieterse wasn't available for filming or something.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 22:20, 25 January 2010 (EST)
          • Perfect episode, and i think that the reason they didnt have claire save lydia to show that everyone can't be invincible in heroes and people do actually die. daevon 22:34, 25 January 2010 (EST)
            • Or, when she was saying things like "stop the bleeding, keep pressure on the wound" she was trying to prep Lydia for a transfer and she didn't get there in time. Samuel did tell her it was too late. It doesn't seem as if she can just dribble blood in someone's wound. Both times the blood's been used it's been in a certain type of situation, and I think many viewers have blown its effects out of proportion. --DigitalCount 22:42, 25 January 2010 (EST)
              • Noah had his brains blown out but he still came back. I think the writers just need to outline the specifics of the RCR blood transfer.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 22:44, 25 January 2010 (EST)
                • I don't think Claire knew how her blood "can" revive the dead. Or at least if she did, Samuel would make sure she didn't. I'm glad Claire figured it out that it wasn't Noah, because I can't stand it when she's naive. And seriously it was obvious it wasn't Noah, it wasn't funny, but then the Carnival people don't know about Noah so I guess that's okay. But seriously, Noah would never shoot wildly, attacking anyone in sight, he'd probably be calculating and he would make sure he killed someone. Although the faith in Samuel is so annoyingly blind. I mean come on, what Joseph dies and suddenly Samuel is so great, you'd believe every word he says without thinking, especially after he kills a whole town. Wow, just wow. But anyway.--Dman dustin 23:11, 25 January 2010 (EST)

That guy with fire...

That wasn't Chris Bowman was it? He was standing next to the woman with the kid girl in her arms that might have been Gail and Jennie. If it was him, fire breathing sure must have evolved!--Ratclaws 22:27, 25 January 2010 (EST)

• I think it was a different person. I liked the effect used for pyrokinesis in this episode though, more like a fireball and less like an open flame.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 22:31, 25 January 2010 (EST)
  • He kinda looked like the new drawing of Chris in todays iStory.--Ratclaws 23:10, 25 January 2010 (EST)
    • It was definitely Chris. Heroes Interactive:The Art of Deception confirmed it. It looks like Chris can do more than just breathe fire.... -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:21, 26 January 2010 (EST)
      • If he's always been known as a firebreather, and he can make fire with his hands now, is it alright to assume that Fire breathing is Pyrokinesis, or are we gonna keep the two separate? Also, I can't remember, did he make the fire with his hand on screen? The shape of it made it look like he was holding a flaming ball, and if it was done off screen, it's entirely possible he has a ball he lit on fire with his mouth.--Riddler 00:36, 26 January 2010 (EST)

Peter, Sylar and Peter's dream about Emma

It's looking more and more like Sylar is the only one that can save Emma, but if she's being controled by Eric Doyle (I rewatched that part and Eric is there but its not clear if he's just watching or controling her) it may be saving her by killing him finally. It's cool how Peter is using telepathy to enter Sylar's mind to try to save him. Ever since he replicated that power the first time, he's shown more aspects of it then when he just mimicked it.--WarGrowlmon18 22:40, 25 January 2010 (EST)

• I swear I saw his arms moving as if he were making her play.--Riddler 22:44, 25 January 2010 (EST)
  • Emma looked like she was in pain (her fingers were bleeding) but her facial expression wasn't of anger but sadness, she looked like she was being controlled by doyle. And Sylar looked like he was really trying to save her. daevon 22:49, 25 January 2010 (EST)
    • I just watched that scene again in slow motion and doyle WAS controlling Emma. You can clearly see him behind her, in his blue suit, making the gestures for playing a violin. daevon 23:32, 25 January 2010 (EST)

Gabriel "Fortunato" Gray

• When Matt was bricking in Sylar, I kept thinking back to Edgar Allen Poe's story The Cask of Amontillado. I wonder if it was inspired by that. :) (Admin 00:21, 26 January 2010 (EST))