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Temp Summary

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Opening blurb: There's a moment in every war where everything changes. A moment when the road bends. Alliances and battle lines shift. And the rules of engagement are rewritten. Moments like these can change the nature of the battle, and turn the tide, for either side. So we do what we can to understand them. To be ready for change, we steady our hearts, curb our fears, muster our forces, and look for signs in the stars. But these moments, these game changers, remain a mystery. Destiny's invisible hand, moving pieces on a chess board. No matter how much we prepare for them, how much we resist the change, anticipate the moment, fight the inevitable outcome, in the end, we're never truly ready when it strikes.

Arthur is doing more precognitive sketches. Among them are an image of Noah holding a dead Claire, a dead Mohinder, Peter and Nathan falling toward a jungle, and Hiro, Matt, and Ando standing in a cornfield.

Angela is considering a photo of the Patrelli family and then looks outside at the coming eclipse

Ando and Hiro look at the 9th Wonder comic.

Sylar tests his newly acquired lightning powers while Elle looks on. Sylar says he needs to prove himself to someone, but says she wouldn’t understand. They’re interrupted when Arthur comes in and asks Sylar to find Claire. Elle insists on going with him, admitting that being a “Company” girl is all she knows. Sylar asks Arthur if he’s okay with it, and Arthur says it’s a good pairing.

At the Primatech facility, Claire speaks with Angela, who informs her she has an important part to play: avoid being caught. Peter and Nathan have been sent to find the Haitian and Matt and Daphne are looking for Hiro. Angela escorts Claire into Level 5 where prisoners Eric Doyle and Danny Pine are confined. Noah is waiting for her.

Peter and Nathan are heading for Haiti and Peter says they’ll need some help with the Haitian, who is looking for a Level 5 escapee, Baron Samedi. Nathan assures Peter that he still has a purpose even without his powers and Nathan agrees to take him along. Nathan has him hold on as he flies off into the sky toward Haiti.

Mohinder is vivisecting his test subject and notices that he’s still mutating. He goes to see Arthur and demands the catalyst, and Arthur shows him the picture of Noah and Claire and says it’s going to happen today. Mohinder says it’s impossible but Arthur asks him how it could happen. Mohinder suspects the eclipse is involve and notes that if Claire dies, the catalyst dies with her. There’s another sketch of Mohinder dying and Arthur warns that everything is going to change today.

Matt and Daphne are in Brooklyn looking for information on Hiro in Matt’s files. Daphne is nervous and says that Arthur scares her and she betrayed him. She thinks she betrayed Matt as well and he assures her that he trusts her completely. She wonders how he knows her so well and says that it was a dream. Matt insists he won’t let anything happen to her. They’re interrupted whe there’s a knock on the door. Matt opens the door and finds Hiro and Ando. Ando shows him the comic, which shows Matt helping Ando.

Noah takes Claire to Stephen Canfield’s home, saying that it’s safe now that Canfield is gone Claire accuses him of doing whatever it takes to keep the catalyst safe. Noah says that he’s worried about her, not the catalyst.

Matt scans Hiro’s memories but can’t understand his thoughts, which are in Japanese. Meanwhile, Daphne asks Ando if he was dead, and when he questions her she says she’s now a good guy. Ando insists the comic book says Matt holds the answer but Matt doesn’t know how. Meanwhile, Hiro is looking at Matt’s turtle. Daphne says she can’t handle it and noticed Matt pausing when he said he trusted her. She heads for the door and he reads her mind and picks up a thought of Lawrence, KS. She tells him to back off and super speeds away, and Hiro thinks she’s cool.

Sylar and Elle go to a car rental office and Sylar checks in with Arthur. Arthur thinks that Noah has Claire, and Sylar knows where he’ll go. Elle is worried about him, thinking that he’s obeying authority too easily. Sylar tries to get the clerk to the desk, but Elle tells him that she told the clerk that Sylar is a serial killer who kidnapped her. When Sylar wonders why, she explains that she doesn’t want Arthur or anyone else make him into something. The clerk comes out with a rifle and says he knows what’s going on. Sylar tries to explain and Elle pressures Sylar by asking who he really is. The clerk strikes Sylar, and he looks up, saying he hates heroes.

As the eclipse draws nearer, Mohinder makes a log wondering what the eclipse signifies and how he’s changing. He’s wracked by spasms of coughing and notices more adhesive fluid extending from his hands.

Noah is tearing up the floorboards at the Canfield home and gives Claire one of the wooden boards. He tosses it to Claire and tells her to hit him, if she wants him to train her. Claire says he’s trying to exorcise his guilt and she insists she can handle things. He says he’s trying to keep her safe and tells her to hit him. She takes a swing and Noah easily deflects her and then turns it against her, choking her. He gives her instructions on how to improve and tells her to go again.

Tracicalls Arthur with information on where Nathan and Arthur are going. Traci wonders if Arthur is going to hurt Nathan, and Arthur says there are some things out of his control. Traci, concerned, says they need him. Arthur tells Traci to go to the Marine training facility at Paris Island and use some of her connections to put together an army. She hangs up just as Angela comes in.

At Matt’s apartment, Ando is reading 9th Wonder comics where Matt insists he has to find Daphne. He wants Hiro to teleport him to Lawrence, KS. Hiro turns to a page in the comics showing them at a corn field in Lawrence, KS. He teleports them there to the field outside of Daphne’s house. Matt hears Daphne’s thought and runs toward the house. However, Ando looks up as they see the sky darken from the eclipse.

At Pinehearst, Arthur throws the sketches on the ground.

In his laboratory, Mohinder has webbed himself to the wall in a cocoon.

At Primatech, Angela is looking at a photo of their family.

In Haiti, Nathan and Peter plummet out of the sky into a lake.

A smiling Sylar takes Elle in a stolen rental car and drives off.

Claire practices swinging at a column at the Canfield house as Noah smiles in approval.

Mohinder rips himself free of the cocoon and looks in a mirror to discover he’s back to normal.

Peter and Nathan climb out of the lake and Nathan admits he has no idea what happened but he can no longer fly. Peter remembers there was an eclipse the first day Nathan flew. However, Nathan suspects that the Haitian made him lose his powers. They make their way through the jungle and find voodoo totems that Peter identifies as prayers for redemption and salvation. Nathan says he saw the Haitian’s village from the sky and heads in that direction, even though Peter says the map shows it’s in a different direction.

Matt knocks at the farmhouse door and Mr. Millbrook answers the door. He says that Daphne isn’t there but Matt calls out and Daphne tells him to go away. Matt tries to use his powers on Mr. Millbrook and glares at him, but nothing happens. Mr. Millbrook goes inside and Matt explains that his powers are gone. Hiro confirms that his powers are gone and they wonder what’s going on. Inside, Mr. Millbrook asks Daphne if she’s going to explain who Matt is, and she says she won’t. He says she’s been gone a long time and she asks if she can just go home. He asks if she’s okay and she says it’s happening again. She asks if he still has them and he goes to get them.

In Haiti, Peter and Nathan come to a ravine and Nathan says they can double back. Peter wonders if Nathan will admit he’s wrong. Nathan snaps at him, saying that every time Peter has been in trouble Nathan has been there to save him. Peter accuses him of being a puppet and a coward, letting himself be manipulated by Arthur. Nathan wonders where it’s coming from and Peter says he’ll choose Arthur. Nathan disagrees and turns to find the Haitian, motioning him for silence.

Claire is still practicing her swinging but is tiring out. Noah wonders where her anger has gone and tells her to swing at him. She tries and he asks what she’s thinking. She talks about how she hugged him every time he’d come back from a trip in the hope he wouldn’t leave. She hits him in the leg and asks why he left, then walks toward the toward. Elle comes in and tries to use her lightning, but nothing happens. Noah draws a gun and tells her to leave, but Sylar comes in behind him. However, Sylar’s power doesn’t work either. Noah and Sylar struggle and Noah drops his gun. As Noah breaks Sylar’s arm, Elle picks up the gun and prepares to shoot Noah. Claire throws herself in the path of the bullet and falls to the ground. Noah knocks Elle unconscious and then picks up Claire and gets her out of the house. Sylar picks up the gun but passes out from the pain before he can shoot.

Noah takes Claire to the Bennet house where Sandra wonders what happened. Noah explains that Claire has lost her power and tells her not to call the police or the hospital. He insists it’s a surface wound and they can deal with it. Sandra reluctantly agrees and goes to get medical supplies. Claire recovers consciousness and admits she’s been careless, but is at least happy she can feel pain again. Noah thanks her for saving his life.

In Lawrence, Hiro tries to use his powers again without success. Ando thinks Arthur may be responsible but Matt doesn’t believe it. Hiro says they have to save Daphne but Matt says he can’t. Hiro remembers the Hero’s Quest, to triumph without powers. Hiro starts throwing corn cobs at him while Ando translate saying that Matt can’t doubt. Matt catches a corn cob and Hiro asks him not to hurt him. Inspired, Matt goes to the house, and Hiro say she has a plan to get his powers back. Hiro and Ando walk down the road and Ando says they’ve reached the end of the comic book. Hiro says they have to find a comic book store to find the next issue.

Mohinder determines that every facet of the formula has disappeared from his body. He has no idea why or how and then brings up a file on Maya. He prepares to leave but Arthur and Flint comes in. Arthur says that Mohinder has to get everyone’s abilities back and Mohinder warns that it may be irreversible. Flint slams Mohinder into the wall and tells him he’s going to stay there until Mohinder gets their powers back.

Hiro and Ando find Sam’s Comics and Hiro starts going through the racks, realizing it’s Wednesday: new comic day. They approach the owner, Sam, and his co-owner Frack, and they recognize Hiro from the 9th Wonder comic.

As they make their way through the jungle, the Haitian is surprised to hear that Arthur is alive, and says he didn’t strip Nathan of his powers. The Haitian says he has to stop Samedi, his brother. Samedi is invulnerable to physical damage, and the Haitian explains that he is building an army. Peter insists on helping, for no other reason then so that the Haitian can complete his task and go back with them. They’re interrupted when soldiers open fire on them. The soldiers capture Nathan while Peter and the Haitian escape. Samedi emerges from the jungle and says they know all about him: Arthur warned them he would be coming. Samedi knocks him out and has his soldiers take Nathan to the camp. Peter and the Haitian watch from the jungle.

Claire is running a fever and Noah tells her to get her rest. He goes out and Sandra tells him not to leave her daughter. Sandra says that Claire is scared and needs him, but Noah says there’s something he needs to finish.

Mr. Millbrook gets in his truck and leaves, and Matt goes to the front door and knocks. He tells Dpahne he is’t leaving until he talks to her but she tells him to leave. He refuses and says he knows who she is: smart, beautiful, funny. He says he’s in love with her and is never going to give up on her. She tells him to come in and he follows her voice to the bedroom. She’s crippled, her legs useless.

Sandra brings food in for Claire but discovers that she’s unconscious and bleeding badly.

Elle relocates Sylar’s arm into place and tries to use his powers without success. He takes the gun and admits that he used to understand everything, but now nothing makes sense. Sylar admits that it’s a relief not to feel the hunger. Elle admits she pushed him to become a monster and he says it wasn’t her fault. She says they can’t take what they want any more but Sylar questions that, grabs her, and kisses her passionately. Outside, Noah is drawing a bead on him with a sniper rifle.
Closing blurb: N/A

Poorly Spelled Comments

too parter!!!

• Yes, it's also a two parter. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:08, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

Date

Why does the date of airing say that we are getting another week off? Tristan0709 02:42, 14 November 2008 (EST)

• Cause I think originally there was going to be no Heroes the Monday of Thanksgiving Week, and The Eclipse would air the following week as a two-hour episode. But now per NBC Universal Media Village, it looks like the network has changed its mind.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:55, 14 November 2008 (EST)
  • I've just updated the date to correspond to the new official schedule (11/24/08 for this episode).--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:01, 14 November 2008 (EST)
    • Ok, forgive my ignorance, but do shows normally take a week off for Thanksgiving? We don't have Thanksgiving over here so I have no idea. Tristan0709 03:26, 14 November 2008 (EST)
      • It depends on what the networks have planned. Often times, they do rearrange schedules for holidays, and air more family-oriented shows or movies during those times to appear to a broader audience.--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:53, 14 November 2008 (EST)

Take away their powers?

If the Eclipse gave them their power how come Peter was using Precognitive Dreaming before the eclipse? Why would an eclipse give them/take away powers when their powers are a part of their biology/physiology/whatever? This makes absolutely no sense. --Snow Leapord 22:05, 17 November 2008 (EST)

Hey come on. It's Heroes. There could be some... I dunno, weird ray from eclipses that interacts with the heroes' bodies. To say flat out that eclipses don't do anything when we don't know everything about how evolved humans work is just silly. Though you do bring a good point with the eclipse giving powers, though. That's been discussed before, and as far as we know, it's a plothole. Of course, NBC's doing the narrations for the promos, not the creators themselves, so they could be wrong. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:08, 17 November 2008 (EST)

If there are "weird rays" then those rays are coming from the moon crossing paths with the sun, if the "weird rays" can take it is plausible they can give as well if you have the genetic predisposition for it. Or it could be the fact the powers are solar powered. Either way the promo makes Heroes sound hokey and idiotic imho. --Snow Leapord 22:15, 17 November 2008 (EST)

That weird ray thing was just an example. My point was that anything can happen. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:18, 17 November 2008 (EST)

Arthur's precognitive ability

Arthur had a picture that he had drawn, apparently of Noah holding Claire's corpse, and indicated that it was "going to happen, TODAY." I'm not aware of any other precognitive painters who were specifically aware of when the things they painted were going to occur. Was this an accurate statement, or do we think it was just a way to communicate urgency?--Falcomadol 21:09, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Arthur has been shown to have more advanced control over his abilities than even those that originally held them. It's quite possible the ability to know when an event is going to happen is a more advanced aspect of his precognition. ...Or, he could have just drew the eclipse and looked up when the next one would be on Google or Wikipedia or something like that. :P Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 21:12, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Mohinder's ability

...Is this grossing anyone else out right now? Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 21:31, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Mohinder grosses me out every time I see him.--Falcomadol 21:41, 24 November 2008 (EST)

• Yeah, I didn't need to see that Exproject 21:42, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Noah vs Gabriel

It's pretty ... uh, I can't remember the word. It's nice to see Noah beating Gabriel up though.--Falcomadol 21:44, 24 November 2008 (EST)

• Role reversal much? Exproject 21:52, 24 November 2008 (EST)
• It was a good action scene, but I really didn't like it that much. I was starting to like Sylar playing the role of the hero... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 21:54, 24 November 2008 (EST)
• I thought of the word: Cathartic--Falcomadol 21:55, 24 November 2008 (EST)

• Snipe that BITCH! SNIPE IT! CRAP!--Falcomadol 22:00, 24 November 2008 (EST)

• Nooo :( I don't want either of them to die... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:01, 24 November 2008 (EST)
• HAYDEN BETTER NOT DIE ON ME TOO DAMMIT! Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:02, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Aw, Daphne...

The last scene with Daphne broke my heart a little... JackOfBloodyHearts 22:08, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Mine too. :[ Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:09, 24 November 2008 (EST)

me three. But terribly ironic.