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I quite liked this GN. Pretty interesting stuff. --Radicell 06:39, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

• Yep, HRG-centric novels are always good. AltesUTC CH

Level 5

i don't get that level 5 thing? wasn't the level 5 escape when noah got out? and he brought in meredith later? or is it the breach that Daphne caused and got flint out to work for arthur. --mc_hammark 06:57, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

• Yeah, it really bugs me that they don't have a sense of continuity in this series anymore. Of course, I think it's either been said or implied that the graphic novels are not canon--Gibbeynator 07:08, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Maybe the message was referring to Angela's awakening and preparing for protection of the Catalyst? Or Noah and Meredith were called in to go to Pinehearst (and to fall into Sylar's trap instead)? AltesUTC CH
    • I think the only time Level 5 was really compromised was when everyone, INCLUDING NOAH, broke out.--Gibbeynator 09:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
      • No continuity? Says who? I think there's great continuity between the graphic novels and the episodes. The graphic novels, by the way, are considered near-canon. There's nothing to say that the Level 5 alert was Elle blowing the grid. It could have been any number of other incidents we don't know about. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:55, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
      • It's most likely what happened with Noah and Meredith right before the events of Dual. Couldn't any of you four apply some intelligence and imagination here, instead of blaming it on a continuity gaff?--Citizen 20:11, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
• There is a deleted scene on the season 3 DVD which shows that when Arthur teleported Claire back from the 70's with the message for Angela. Claire ended up in a level 5 cell. Noah and Angela come runing in with alarms sounding saying that no one should be there. It could be referiing to this. --D Toccs 03:03, 7 October 2009 (EDT)
  • While that is a good point, according to Partners, Noah and Meredith ended their partnership before The Eclipse, Part 1.--Gibbeynator 19:32, 7 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Maybe they got together for one more mission... --Skullman1392 19:40, 7 October 2009 (EDT)
      • According to an unofficial document at NBC, this was Noah's very last bag and tag mission. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:03, 7 October 2009 (EDT)
    • So is it that unreasonable that this case was special (or important), so Noah and Meredith had to work together (considering the very small size of The Company at the time). Their relationship seemed rocky at best in this GN, afterall. And at the end, they went back to the Company where Sylar then trapped them. I think that all fits within the canon timeline. --Skullman1392 23:53, 7 October 2009 (EDT)
      • That sounds reasonable. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:09, 8 October 2009 (EDT)

Timeline inconsistencies...

They say a year ago, which bring us to September (or October) 2006. However, Noah didn't work with Meredith then. This's way stupid.. And also with the Level 5 thing and everything... It started to be ridiculous. NBC please explain this or do something to invalidate this GN, let it happen in an alternate reality or something but please don't be so careless anymore... --Janrodrigo 10:35, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

• Noah and Meredith was working together in March 2007 (or later). That means that the present timeline is at March 2008 (or later), no? Not September/October 2007... --Radicell 10:36, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Good point Radicell. But then did Claire, Annie and Gretchen start the college from the second semester? And we know that we're 3 weeks ahead of An Invisible Thread which supposedly happened in June 2007. Or we're 3 weeks ahead of the 5th volume trailer that they showed at the end of An Invisible Thread which supposedly happened in July or August 2007. If we find no other clue about whether we're in the automn of 2007 or at the spring of 2008, we've to dig into volume 4's storylines one-by-one to see whether there's a breakage point between episodes/storylines. Because if we're supposedly in 2008, then it means that in the last volume there was many weeks' gap between some events. --Janrodrigo 11:27, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Or is it so? --Janrodrigo 12:00, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
• Right now we're somewhere in the autumn of 2007. This novel took place a year ago, possibly when Meredith joined the Company in September 2006. I don't see what the issue is. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:02, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Oh, now I realise... Me and Radicell were both wrong because we forgot about Villains where Noah and Meredith are partners but instead remembered only the one in Dying of the Light and Eris Quod Sum where Noah offers Meredith company partnership and Meredith accepts it. I've been too judgmental without checking adequately. Thank you Ryan for clearing up. --Janrodrigo 12:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Huh, good point... But Meredith was working with Thompson, not Noah. AltesUTC CH
      • Yours also is a good point. Then can we can deduce from this that Meredith was repartnered with Mr. Bennet after the case of Danny Pine and before the train incident? --Janrodrigo 12:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
        • Partners often switched around in the Company. Ultimately, this novel could have logically taken place any time from September 2006 to March 2007. I would consider any of those times to be "a year ago". But we also must remember that the novel itself (which says "not too long ago") is the near-canon source. The introductions to the novels are not written by the graphic novel writers, and they are often riddled with mistakes. We have never considered the GN intros to be near-canon sources. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:16, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
          • It should be September 2006 no? ...as the train derails in October 1, 2006 --Janrodrigo 12:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
            • They talk about Claire. No way it was in Sept. 2006. This has to be after Danny Pine's second capture, and they get called to Primetech for some reason. Maybe someone from the carnival was in there, and it will be in a upcoming graphic novel?--Ratclaws 12:43, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
              • Noah was referring to Claire (he may have already guessed what her power was), but nobody actually mentioned her. Or did they? AltesUTC CH
                • Yep, Meredith thought about Claire, and Noah mentioned her by name as they went into the pet store, saying not every girl was like her.--Ratclaws 12:49, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
                  • Then I have one last theory. Amanda's ability manifested one year ago, but Noah and Meredith were assigned much later. Kinda fits with the blurb's text. AltesUTC CH
                    • The way Noah speaks to Meredith in the novel, it's clear they Meredith knows Claire is her daughter. So yes, it can't be Spetember. But then it makes no sense then again. Because in Villains Thompson releases Meredith after the train wreck:

Thompson and a captured Meredith watch as firemen arrive to deal with the train wreck. Meredith explains that 14 years ago the Company caught up to her and killed her baby daughter Claire. Realizing who Meredith’s daughter is, he frees Meredith and tells her to go before he changes his mind. As Meredith leaves, Claire approaches the burning train wreck below and rescues a fireman.

--Janrodrigo 12:58, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

• Ryan, help.. What do you think? --Janrodrigo 13:17, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
  • I think there's lots of ways to explain it. I think what Foz was going for was sometime in March 2007. The "one year ago" is most likely a mistake by whoever it is who writes the GN introductions, which are not considered to be part of the novel, never have been. However, there are quite a few ways to explain the story, if you want to keep the "one year ago." First, it's an estimated "year". Second, it takes place in September 2006 when Meredith joined the Company, was put with Noah, and the Level 5 incident is not Elle blowing the grid but something else. Third, Amanda demonstrated her ability a year ago (in September 2006), but Noah and Meredith were only assigned to the case a few months later (in March 2007). Personally, I like the first or third choices. But ultimately, I think the "a year ago" was a mistake...that can be explained away. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:31, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
  • For what it's worth, the novel is described by producers like this: "HRG's last bag and tag mission, and one of his first experiences working with Meredith Gordon. This is a flashback story of sorts, where Lydia's estranged daughter meets up with our own Mystery man of the company...Noah Bennet, almost a year ago." -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:08, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Thanks Ryan. Then as you say the "one year ago" is most likely a mistake or I go for the option "1", as options 2 and 3 are not feasible. (2 no because Meredith knew Claire is her daughter and she didn't know it then. 3 neither becuase in the GN you it shows out that it happens right after.) So it must be happening around sometime in March 2007. (P.S. And yes, even in the GN collections the black parts are excluded =)) --Janrodrigo 17:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
      • I think this takes place around the episode Daphne broke Flint out of Level 5. I can't remember the name (and there's inconsistancies as Angela's in a coma unless someone else sent that message), but Noah and Merideth were partners then.--WarGrowlmon18 17:30, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
        • I'm of the persuasion that this takes place before Dual, when Noah and Meredith are called in by Angela to take care of the Sylar situation. The year ago issue could be solved by the last possibilities RGS came up with or it would be that the writer was referring to last season as last year, as that is when the episode was released. Still a stupid oversight, in my opinion. People who read the novels catch this immediately and the writers don't?--Citizen 20:15, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
          • Agreed. And they're the ones getting paid! >:-( --Radicell 20:40, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Cats are conquering the world

Muffin Man, Emma's cat, now Iggy... Mr. Muggles's time will soon end! AltesUTC CH

• "Soon" end? When was the last time we've seen him? From what I can see, its already ended... :'( --Skullman1392 23:07, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Katie Ka-boom

Was anyone else reminded of a certain animaniacs segment from this GN?--Piemanmoo 04:26, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

• Nope, not me. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:17, 7 October 2009 (EDT)