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Okay who else was seriously disappointed by that?????????

It's about time they posted it, but its REALLY bad. At least we got a confirmation on the Haitain's name, but that's about the only GOOD part of it.--WarGrowlmon18 19:45, 9 June 2010 (EDT)

• I can't see it. The .pdf won't load for me.--Gibbeynator 21:38, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
  • OK, yeah, that was a terrible let down. This answered pretty much nothing, and with the series officially cancelled, we're probably not going to get any more answers.--Gibbeynator 21:45, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
  • You're not really missing anything. It was by no means bad, but not too much actually occured. The only part that was worth it to me was Elle's ninth birthday, due to the fact that she had included that particular event in the summary of her life she gave to Peter. But, yeah, other than that, not too much to see. Noah chases down yet another special, dodges a propeller or something along the way, Kaito acts annoyingly omniscient as if the writers are rubbing the fact that his power was NEVER revealed in our faces, and there's a reasonably disturbing shot of Elle eating cake (which apparently isn't a lie) all drugged out. Here's hoping that the movie finale falls through.--PJDEP - Talk - Polls and Opinions 21:48, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
    • Actually movie finalies are usually pretty good. With Stargate SG-1 they made two movies to wrap up the show with more planned (those may never appear because of the economy but one can hope) and did a really good job of wrapping it up, getting rid of two of the three remaning enemies (well four if you count this enemy that they NEVER seem to get rid of) with the last one carrying over into the newest show. One of the two enemies gotten rid of was LONG OVERDUE in finishing off (by like a few YEARS) but at least they did a pretty good job of finally doing it (time-travel, alternate timelines, paradoxes (one of the charchters was literaly a walking grandfather paradox as he had never been born due to his grandfather being murdered) all the good stuff). That gives me some hope that a movie finalie could work out.--WarGrowlmon18 22:27, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
      • Actually going the comic route could be bad too. They did that with the shows Buffy and Angel. I've never read the comics, but given what I've seen from the wikis of those shows they look stupid. Buffy had a good ending, Angel was kinda like Heroes though, not really wrapped up with all of the main charchters heading towards what was likely their final battle (they REALLY pissed off the bad guys saving the world and now had an ARMY of bad guys after them) and I don't think the comics could do that justice. In fact, from what I've read of the direction that went in I'm sorely disappointed. They should have gone the movie route there to finish it off.--WarGrowlmon18 00:12, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
        • I just wasted 18 weeks of my life (not counting the 3 years before) for that? --Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 07:56, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
          • If you seriously spent the last 4 months doing absolutely nothing but sitting infront of your computer refreshing the page waiting for the comics to be posted, then that's extremely sad... but I don't see how you can really blame NBC or Heroes for how sad and pathetic your life is. They didn't tie you to a chair for 4 months, did they? --Maelwys 09:45, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
            • I sincerely doubt he was serious.--PJDEP - Talk - Polls and Opinions 10:43, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
            • Maelwys, this isn't 4chan, so watch the insulting attitude. --OutbackZack 15:01, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
              • No, that was actually very accurate. --Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 15:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
                • I don't think Maelwys was being offensive... by the way i just have to add this, This is the way the Heroes ends: Not with a bang but a whimper.--Manwithnoname 21:07, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
                  • Who wrote that? Was it Edgar Allan Poe? --Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 21:24, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
                    • TS Elliot, I believe.--PJDEP - Talk - Polls and Opinions 21:36, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
                      • That sounds right. --Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 22:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
                        • It is right--Manwithnoname 09:44, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
            • My apologies, I didn't intend it to be offensive. I was simply trying to point out through sarcasm that it's rather erroneous to claim that anybody "wasted 18 weeks [waiting for this comic]", because for that 18 weeks to have been truly wasted would imply that you accomplished nothing during that time aside from waiting for the comic. You can claim that you wasted about an hour of your life (in little bits at a time spread over those 18 weeks), but that's not really the same thing as wasting an entire 18 week span of life. --Maelwys 10:37, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
• Parts 7 and 8 are pointless. They showed us Simone and Barbara and didn't say a single damn thing about the abilities they may have had. Kaito's power wasn't revealed. Bob sucks as a father. Utter crap. AltesUTC CH 14:15, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
  • Maybe Kaito's ability has been changed to something like "reverse omnilinguilism", the ability to have other people understand him no matter what language he speaks. Seems like there's always someone around to translate for him.--Gibbeynator 21:08, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

This page needs to be organized

An appearances template needs to be created, and Template:GN must be added. --Radicell 19:53, 9 June 2010 (EDT)

Its gotta be said

It took them what? 3 weeks to come up with that? Its crap! They really could've done much better as a way to tie up the series! --Leckie -- Talk 13:27, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

• One word...........disappointed!! --Jenx222 | U / T / C | <inlcudeonly>08:00, 7 January 2012 (EST) 14:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
• I don't think they spent the last three weeks writing/drawing/colouring that, it was probably done much before then. This wasn't designed to be the series finale, and was written long before the series cancellation was announced. Maybe in the future they'll make another comic (or series of comics) to better wrap things up, but this isn't it. --Maelwys 14:54, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
  • I am very disappoint.--Adamhiro 22:56,10 June 2010 (LT)
    • VERY disappointing, but then again, this was probably just meant to lead into the next comic, instead of being the final comic. I'm sure we'd still be disappointed, but not on this level.--Gibbeynator 18:42, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
• I agree with Maelwys. I think this novel was written in advance of the decision to not renew the series for the Fall. As it is, I think it is a nice ending to this set of graphic novels, giving us confirmation on the name of René's ability, another '9' reference (Elle turned 9), and another look at some of the founders in 1991. Though, I'm hoping too that we'll get more comics and that the TV movie that was mentioned will be able to start production soon.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:53, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
  • I think that this put the Haitian's name back in doubt, as his name was presented in quotes on his badge, but Elle's wasn't. --Gibbeynator 08:15, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
    • I think that it was just in quotes to indicate how little they knew about him. They didn't know his full name, they didn't know his age, they knew that he went by the name "Rene", but for all they knew that wasn't even his real name. He was a mystery, even to the Company. --Maelwys 10:50, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
      • After Shadowboxing, when some of us were sore about changing the Haitian's name, RGS argued that he never referred to himself as the Haitian. Look at his signature. --Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 10:53, 11 June 2010 (EDT)

"René" signs his name as "Haitian".

• • • • • Yeah, just when you thought the debate about the Haitian's name was over, we get something like this that drags us right back in.--Gibbeynator 13:14, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
          • What can I say? RGS's argument that "the Haitian" was not an alias just got debunked. René was in quotes as if it were just another alias, while he specifically signed as "Haitian". --Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 19:46, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
            • I'm guessing this is a subtle hint that the writers and artists didn't like the Haitian's random name drop, and decided "Hey, the chances that Heroes will come back are looking pretty slim, let's just retcon in that Rene is just ANOTHER alias."--Gibbeynator 15:27, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
              • The evidence is far too inconclusive for such a conclusion. Personally, I'm waiting for an admin to chime in, although my gut is telling me that we'll keep René.--PJDEP - Talk - Polls and Opinions 15:45, 12 June 2010 (EDT)

Cake?

Angela: "Poor girl. How's she holding up?"
Bob: "Birthday cake? Really, Angie?"
Angela: "It was the last one they had."

This dialogue is inconsistent and somewhat confusing. What is it supposed to mean? Cake seems like a pretty common birthday treat to me. And how do you jump from the thought pattern of "why did you bring cake" to that of "it was the last one left"? --Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 09:06, 11 June 2010 (EDT)

• My interpretation of this conversation was that it wasn't actually her birthday at all. Bob was told that cake would cheer her up, so he asked Angela to buy a cake. When she stopped at the cake shop, the only cake that they had left was a birthday cake, so Angela bought it. When she showed up with it, Bob wasn't questioning why she brought cake (because Kaito had just called and asked her too, so obviously that would be a silly question), he was questioning why she brought a birthday cake. Since that was the only option they had left at that point, they had to use it anyway. Rather than confuse the girl further (by trying to explain why they were giving her a birthday cake when it wasn't her birthday), they just stuck a candle in it ("Now she's nine"), hastily scratched over/updated her badge, and told her that it was her birthday. Between the Haitian's mind-wipe, and the lithium drip in her arm, she'd have believed anything at that point. Not exactly the first lie that this particular group has conspired to tell, and definitely not the last. --Maelwys 10:47, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
  • Oh. That whole thing just went over my head. --Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 10:53, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
    • Note: Elle opened a birthday present from Bob in the beinning of Part 7, and her personnel file listed her as eight. --Boycool Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. Amen. 11:03, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
• The cake is a lie. --Punxas 03:36, 20 June 2010 (EDT)