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Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources Episodes
Graphic Novels,
Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources Episode commentary,
Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities Descriptions
6. Possessor's name If no non-speculative
description is possible

Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine mental manipulation's name.
René's ability is explicitly specified as mental manipulation on a Primatech ID badge in Graphic Novel:From the Files of Primatech, Part 8.
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Most Recent Edit By RGS!

You said Peter needed to actively concentrate on healing the damaged parts for it to work however, as for some reason regeneration doesn't heal the damage automatically. I think the reason it doesn't heal automatically is that the body doesn't know it's been damaged so won't heal it. Also the fact that regeneration has something to do with the brain (the spot that stops it) it is more likely to have been damaged and stop the healing. Or at least that's what I think. --mc_hammark 06:56, 29 August 2009 (EDT)

  • I think you are right, it's about knowing you are hurt. When Peter thought about Nathan, his brain realized there's something wrong with it, and initiated rapid healing. It's different for Claire though, her ability evolved in the way brain automatically heals any trauma. Green.gif AltesUTC CH
  • well, physical trauma, not emotional. --mc_hammark 08:15, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
    • Memory loss is indeed a physical trauma... or rather a chemical one. Green.gif AltesUTC CH
      • No no, you misinterpret me! I was joking about the fact Claire cries and gets upset so much. --mc_hammark 08:23, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
        • Ah, I get it =) Green.gif AltesUTC CH
  • What does this have to do with me? My only edit to this page in the past couple months was to fix a couple spelling errors. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:24, 29 August 2009 (EDT)


Is it possible that with someone who has a tremendous amount of willpower, could actually not be affected by Haitian's power manipulation? --TrueBlueBrooklynite 19:17, 25 September 2009 (EDT)

  • Matt and Arthur were able to overcome the Haitian's power, but that was rather linked to a great conscious effort. Green.gif AltesUTC CH
    • Some basically if you have a great conscious level (IE: willpower of the mind), you too can meat the Haitian. :) Thanks for the insight because I wonder how you are able to defeat something like his power. --TrueBlueBrooklynite 03:42, 26 September 2009 (EDT)
      • I thought in Arthur case because he had plenty of experience and multi-abilities, that if be hard for The Haitain to block them for a long time.User:50000JH/signature


Hello, I was watching last night's episode (The Fifth Stage) and was wondering about when Peter was suppressing Sylar's abilities. While Peter had Sylar pinned down and was using the Haitian's abilities to help Nathan, Sylar was able to shapeshift back into Nathan. I'm a little confused, as this would require Sylar/Nathan to have access to the shapeshifting ability. This means one of a couple things - either Peter was able to use the Haitian's power to use some degree of influence or control, relinquishing control of Sylar's abilities to "Nathan" while blocking Sylar out with erasure (unlikely as this would be the domain of Matt Parkman) or that the Haitian's ability or Peter's own usage of it allows him to suppress selective powers, including, to my surprise, RCR, while permitting the use of others. This seems more likely, and I doubt we will see the Haitain's ability come in to play against someone with multiple abilities again, but I'd like to see if anybody else had some input to what exactly happened. Mental Manipulation has always been an intriguing ability. Also, on another note, I think that Peter's description of the ability when he was confronting Sylar (I specifically remember him mentioning "Memory Erasing" and "Power Blocking") would be good for the quotes section for this page, since it's the first time I can remember his ability being described full on in simple terms ever, or at least in a long while. Thanks for your time. Shallon 12:40, 1 December 2009 (EST)

  • Peter knew Sylar would have to shape shift back into Nathan. I think Peter let go of his "ability blocking hold" to allow him to shape shift.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 18:02, 2 December 2009 (EST)
    • A wizard did it.Gamerelite1 18:36, 2 December 2009 (EST)

Using ability at the same time

Just wondering can Haitian block someones ability while wiping their memory like if there were two people in a room could he block the one persons power while wiping the mind of the other?--Devane1835 18:54, 2 December 2009

Power name confirmation

The latest GN explicitly confirms the Haitian's ability to be 'mental manipulation'. Just updated the related template now.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:28, 11 June 2010 (EDT)

Possible Edit

In Brother's Keeper (s04e11) Rene tells Nathan/Sylar not to come any closer, implying that if he's any closer to Nathan/Sylar, his ability will counteract Sylar's shape shifting ability. Perhaps shape shifting should be added to the list power that Rene can block? -- Lililoo

  • I think its more that he knows who Sylar really is and doesn't want to see him. Also, he wanted to talk to Peter privatly.--WarGrowlmon18 19:24, 29 March 2011 (EDT)
    • I agree with WG18. Plus, even if Rene were implying that he could block the power of shape shifting, it would be speculative and presumptuous to add it to the things Rene's power could do. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:09, 29 March 2011 (EDT)


Arthur Petrelli has stolen this ability from an unknown source.

Isn't it possible that he absorbed it from Peter? Peter never used this power while he had EM, but he was exposed to it several times, so he should have it even if he didn't realize. Sandubadear (talk) 15:13, 6 February 2016 (EST)