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I think the "great disservice" part was that Hiro thought that he had not been doing his mission -- that he was just living a mundane life and not showing the bravery that his grandfather had exemplified. -[[User:Icewind|Icewind]] 11.15.06 // 4:23PM |
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== Hiro's illness == |
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Hiro Nakamura runs out of mana. WTF. -[[User:Icewind|Icewind]] 11.27.06 // 8:54PM |
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*There's a really big possibility that Hiro's illness is caused by the catalyst when it was passed onto him, similarly to what happened to his [[Ishi|mother]]. Anybody agree?--{{User:NiveKJ13/sig1}} 13:01, 19 October 2009 (EDT) |
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Hiro doesn’t stop time, he moves independently from it. Stopping time would have universal ramifications. One person moving independently from time, not so much. When it appears that time stops, Hiro is basically just moving really fast.--[[User:ASEO|ASEO]] 11:04, 1 February 2007 (EST) |
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** No, Masi Oka confirmed it's because Hiro took others into frozen time. This overloaded his brain. {{User:Altes/Signature}} |
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***Cool. Well, its just a theory. --{{User:NiveKJ13/sig1}} 15:25, 19 October 2009 (EDT) |
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****That doesn't very well explain why he can time travel now though. [[User:Gamerelite1|Gamerelite1]] 15:05, 23 October 2009 (EDT) |
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== Hiro's list == |
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I think we should create {{nowantedlink|Hiro's list|red=t}}. We already know some of the things he has on the list and I think it deserves a page. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 15:08, 21 October 2009 (EDT) |
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Hiro accidentally jumps away from Charlie. I still don’t understand why he doesn’t save her from being murdered, even if she is going to die anyway, at least she wouldn’t be murdered. --[[User:ASEO|ASEO]] 11:04, 1 February 2007 (EST) |
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== Questions == |
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== Shiro Nakamura of Nissan == |
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How did Hiro resume time when he was frozen? |
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Sounds fine. It's not stating that there's a necessary or causal relationship between one or the other, which we don't yet know. From my recollection, Hiro is named for sounding like "hero" and being explained somewhere that it's short for Hiroshima? Though dunno if that bit's canon. I've usually heard "Hiro" as short for Hiroyuki, though I guess there's likely other possibilities. His last name could be named after this Senior VP, or for some other reason, or be entirely coincidental. But it's just trivia. I usually figure if people read more into something than is actually written, they're the one's bearing the risk of going out on that limb. ^^ --[[User:Glue|Glue]] 05:48, 25 February 2007 (EST) |
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how did Hiro's ability restore? I'm guessing by time. |
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*No comment on Shiro Nakamura (although, Nakamura is a popular Japanese last name -- see [[Saemi Nakamura]]). Just a quick note about his name: ''Hiro'' sounding like ''hero'' is a very cool connection -- I'm sure it's purposeful, but not canonical. He mentioned he was named after [[Hiroshima]] in [[Graphic Novel:The Crane]]. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 08:46, 26 February 2007 (EST) |
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If Hiro dies and is bought back by Claire's blood would the tumour come back? |
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*You're really not making sense. Please revise your questions. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 16:13, 22 October 2009 (EDT) |
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Not being rude but. In what way am I'm not making sense? When Hiro Froze time it said that he was frozen and people were not. has does he come unfrozen? |
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When Matt restored Hiro Ability he only had time stop, how did he get teleport and time travel, |
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Noah said a tumour is living flesh and Claire blood will regenerate it, if Hiro dies from the tumour, would the tumour go when he dies and then be bought back to life would the tumour regenerate again. [[User:50000JH/signature]] |
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**Maybe when Hiro was still frozen, he couldn't control it while frozen, so maybe it "wore off". Matt Jr. probably restored the whole thing, but since he had also took Matt Jr. with him, like he did with Emma and Ando in other occasions (which was confirmed to be the source of his cancer), it disrupted his ability to teleport. If Hiro dies, there's no coming back, if he gets a blood transfusion, even if there is a single cancer cell left, it'll grow. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:30, 22 October 2009 (EDT) |
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What means Peter heals him after he has a blood transfusion? [[User:50000JH/signature]] |
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***<s>Again, you're not making much sense. We shouldn't have to have a hard time understanding what you mean. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 19:04, 23 October 2009 (EDT)</s> |
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***Now that you make sense: it makes no sense for Peter to give him a blood transfusion, he doesn't have Claire's ability, and as long as Hiro still has a tumor, getting that blood would only make him sicker. Giving him a transfusion after getting rid of the tumor would be pointless, because he would have already been healed by another ability. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:23, 24 October 2009 (EDT) |
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I mean what would happened if Hiro died because he still had the tumour, but Claire use her blood to bring him back to life and then Peter healed Hiro[50000JH 15:25, 17 November 2009 (EST)] |
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*If would be no use if the tumor was still there. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:03, 17 November 2009 (EST) |
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== Matt == |
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== Hiro's Blog Shutdown by Yamagato Industries == |
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Would Matt finally heal Hiro's tumour, as he did when Angelia had her Commer?50000JH 15:29, 17 November 2009 (EST) |
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http://blog.nbc.com/hiro_blog/2007/03/notice_from_yamagato_industrie.php |
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*Tumor and telepathy induced coma are vastly different things. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:03, 17 November 2009 (EST) |
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==Vote to change wording on hiro's page== |
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Under Once Upon a Time in Texas, we have "Hiro tackles Samuel and manages to teleport them both back to the present carnival." I vote that we change "teleport" to "tackleport" as it fully explains what he did, which is tackle-teleporting.[[User:Gamerelite1|Gamerelite1]] 19:54, 14 December 2009 (EST) |
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*"Tackleport" is not a word. On top of that, I'd hardly call what Hiro did to Samuel "tackling". --[[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] ([[User talk:Ricard Desi|t]],[[Special:Contributions/Ricard Desi|c]]) 20:43, 14 December 2009 (EST) |
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**I'd say it was very tackleish.[[User:Gamerelite1|Gamerelite1]] 19:29, 16 December 2009 (EST) |
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***Im sorry but this idea is retarded 'tackleporting' there are so many things wrong with that [[User:Melkor111|Melkor111]] |
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== MQ == |
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What's up with that? |
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<small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 03/9/2007 14:46 (EST)</small> |
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"You're not butterfly men, You're an evil butterfly men." |
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*Oh, now that's just awesome. Those Yamagatans, they're such teases! — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:25, 9 March 2007 (EST) |
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: - Hiro (To [[Samuel]]) |
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I really like this one, should we add it?--{{User:Yoshi n1/sig1}} 09:21, 26 December 2009 (EST) |
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* If you check [[Memorable quotes#Hiro|this page]] you could probably add it there, if it isn't there already that is. As it is, I think we have enough for him, on his page, for the time being. -- {{User:Leckie/Signature 7}} 09:26, 26 December 2009 (EST) |
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== Mortal Enemy == |
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Is Adam now Hiro's official mortal enemy or is it still Sylar? I am guessing that it's Adam. I know it was Sylar when he killed his beloved Charlie Andrews, but now he didn't. |
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[[User:Blood69]] 14:33, 1 February 2010 (AEST) |
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*Adam is long dead, it's kind of hard to have a mortal enemy who's no longer around. --[[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] ([[User talk:Ricard Desi|t]],[[Special:Contributions/Ricard Desi|c]]) 17:29, 1 February 2010 (EST) |
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**...or super easy! -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 18:08, 1 February 2010 (EST) |
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***Adam's not long dead about a year or so. [[User:Melkor111|Melkor111]] |
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== Hiro's Death == |
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Ok, Ando's supercharged Hiro twice now. So the Ando-kills-Hiro future is pretty much gone now right?--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 18:07, 20 February 2010 (EST) |
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*Unless there's more to his ability than he has discovered so far. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 18:13, 20 February 2010 (EST) |
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*Technically, Hiro's only been supercharged once. The first time was being shocked not amplifying his ability. I don't think there's more to Ando's power, we've seen, I guess, all it can do: supercharge others' abilities, shock things -- to bypass electrical gear and as electroshock therapy -- and it being used as concussive blast. The way Ando killed Hiro in a would-be future looks like a combination of the latter two. --[[User:Telos|Telos]] 8:54 24 February 2010 (EST) |
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== Superhiro == |
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Hiro has no tumor, has his full powers, and no longer has to worry about Charlie. <small>''oh, this is going to be good...''</small>--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 07:47, 25 February 2010 (EST) |
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*<small>Anyone agree? Am I alone? T.T</small>--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 16:11, 27 February 2010 (EST) |
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**If I'm being honest with you, that was more of a statement than someone looking for agreement. But yes. I can't wait to see what he does as well. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 16:13, 27 February 2010 (EST) |
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***Yeah, I wasn't really thinking when I posted that.--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 17:29, 1 March 2010 (EST) |
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==Age== |
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Is it safe to change his age to 30, since he was 28 in 2007? (He's also a few months older due to time-travel...)--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 16:04, 16 March 2010 (EDT) |
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*Anyone there? Hello?--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 07:15, 22 March 2010 (EDT) |
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** I'm not sure... I think it's more likely that he's older, 31, but 30 should be safe, I think.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 11:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT) |
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** He was born before March 1979. Add 30 years, and we're at March 2009. It's been at least eight months since then in-universe. Plus time-travel aging. I think it should be safe to put his age as 31.--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 16:22, 22 March 2010 (EDT) |
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== Saved the World == |
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"I saved the world...twice." Hiro repeatedly says this line. What ''are'' the two times he saved the world up to [[Our Father]] (first occurrence of the line)? --[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 07:35, 24 March 2010 (EDT) |
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*First time he "killed" Sylar. The second time he (thought) he stopped Adam from releasing the virus (which technically he did; had Adam been in there any longer, he would have released it). --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 09:04, 24 March 2010 (EDT) |
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**Ah, I forget ''he'' stopped Adam. Thanks.--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 16:22, 25 March 2010 (EDT) |
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***Wouldn't it be three times now since he ripped up the formula in Dual? --?--''<small>[[User:Boycool42|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 21:08, 25 March 2010 (EDT) |
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****No matter how many times he saved it, he would have still have saved it at least twice. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 15:13, 26 March 2010 (EDT) |
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****When he ripped up the formula in Dual, he didn't save the world. He simply fufilled the end of a predestination paradox. Remember, at the beginning of the season Hiro only had one half of the formula. He was the one who split it in the first place.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 15:24, 26 March 2010 (EDT) |
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*****And then he ripped it into dozens of pieces after he got back to present-day, stopping the world from splitting in half.--''<small>[[User:Boycool42|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 21:48, 26 March 2010 (EDT) |
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== Pass/Fail == |
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Why does Hiro feel so guilty about Sylar's murders? They were already committed. Hiro even saved one of them.--''<small>[[User:Boycool42|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 09:05, 27 March 2010 (EDT) |
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*He feels guilty because, even though he was able to pull dozens of strings to save Charlie, he would never be able to save Sylar. His becoming a serial killer was, sadly, too important to the timeline. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 10:53, 27 March 2010 (EDT) |
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**Who gives a flying f*** about the timeline? Hiro could have killed Sylar and stopped dozens of murders and prevented all the bad stuff that happened the past 4 seasons.--''<small>[[User:Boycool42|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 11:56, 27 March 2010 (EDT) |
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***All at the expense of the entire space-time continuum asploding. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 12:31, 27 March 2010 (EDT) |
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****It hasn't exploded all the other times he screwed up the timeline. He could just go to Hiro (2006) and tell him to kill Sylar (2006). Simple. Logical.--''<small>[[User:Boycool42|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 16:16, 31 March 2010 (EDT) |
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*****I didn't say explode, I said asplode; it's much different. And if he did, it would just ruin the show... besides, he already tried that. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 16:20, 31 March 2010 (EDT) |
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******Asplode: "Used satirically in a Strong Bad E-mail as an example of poor Japanese to English video game translation." Please clarify.--''<small>[[User:Boycool42|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 16:46, 31 March 2010 (EDT) |
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*******The timeline would [http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/A_Splode asplode]. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 16:48, 31 March 2010 (EDT) |
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********So what's the difference between "explode" and "asplode"?--''<small>[[User:Boycool42|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 16:57, 31 March 2010 (EDT) |
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*Without Sylar, Arthur's army and Samuel's carnival would have started a world war, most likely. Think about it. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 19:01, 31 March 2010 (EDT) |
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**Ah, but with that, one could also argue that then jackie would never have been killed, claire wouldn't have met peter then the whole thing collapses. But I suppose it all depends on ''when'' Hiro kills Sylar. Let me know when, then I'll see if I can work out what would have happened based on everyone's path before they met someone who and any sort of link to sylar. Which also means that nathan may have never met hiro... god time is confusing... i don't know how hiro does it... --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 19:04, 31 March 2010 (EDT) |
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***The carnival wouldn't start a war, because Joseph wouldn't die. Ok, if Hiro wanted to keep the world safe from Sylar, Peter, Adam, Arthur, and Samuel, this is what he needs to do: Snap Sylar and Arthur's necks, put Adam in his coffin, and keep Peter away from Ted Sprague. (Without Sylar and Arthur, there would be no Building 26 and thus, no evil Samuel). This would save an aditional 500 lives, the Bennet household would stay intact, Nathan would still be alive, and...Peter would probably kill himself without Claire, but that's a chance I'm willing to take.--''<small>[[User:Boycool42|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 07:36, 1 April 2010 (EDT) |
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== Discrepancies in the Depiction of Hiro's Power == |
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* In the conclusion of [[Episode:Game Over|Game Over]], Hiro leaves modern-day [[Renautas]] wearing his glasses and with his hair a long, tangled mess. He then arrives in June Whatever, 2013, without glasses and with his hair brushed and tied back (making the Master of Time and Space also the master of hair and face). This seemed a glaring mistake, but as I fueled my nerd rage for an internet tirade, it suddenly dawned that his travel powers have ALWAYS been represented inconsistently. Normally. his arrival at a location isn't noted by any people present, suggesting that he appears in a timeline wherein he is already present. However, this doesn't seem to hold up when the person present at an arrival destination is [[Ando]]. He always seems to see what we see on screen, Hiro popping into existence. And of course, people always seem to notice when he escapes their grasp with his power, when perhaps they should just be going about their business in blissful ignorance. [[User:OGRastamon|OGRastamon]] ([[User talk:OGRastamon|talk]]) 05:29, 24 October 2015 (EDT)-- |
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** Well, before he teleported, he took of his glasses. So he might just put them in his pocket. It's not that far fetched. And the hair thing might be a production error. And I think they shot Odessa scenes beforehand and this episode is like 2-3 weeks later. So they probably forgot minor details.--[[User:Sekobro|Sekobro]] ([[User talk:Sekobro|talk]]) 17:14, 24 October 2015 (EDT) |
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** Or maybe Hiro and Noah made a little detour to get Hiro cleaned up?[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] ([[User talk:BananaClownMan|talk]]) 18:05, 24 October 2015 (EDT) |
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Hiro's illness
- There's a really big possibility that Hiro's illness is caused by the catalyst when it was passed onto him, similarly to what happened to his mother. Anybody agree?--NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 13:01, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
Hiro's list
I think we should create Hiro's list. We already know some of the things he has on the list and I think it deserves a page. --mc_hammark 15:08, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
Questions
How did Hiro resume time when he was frozen? how did Hiro's ability restore? I'm guessing by time. If Hiro dies and is bought back by Claire's blood would the tumour come back? User:50000JH/signature
- You're really not making sense. Please revise your questions. --mc_hammark 16:13, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
Not being rude but. In what way am I'm not making sense? When Hiro Froze time it said that he was frozen and people were not. has does he come unfrozen? When Matt restored Hiro Ability he only had time stop, how did he get teleport and time travel, Noah said a tumour is living flesh and Claire blood will regenerate it, if Hiro dies from the tumour, would the tumour go when he dies and then be bought back to life would the tumour regenerate again. User:50000JH/signature
- Maybe when Hiro was still frozen, he couldn't control it while frozen, so maybe it "wore off". Matt Jr. probably restored the whole thing, but since he had also took Matt Jr. with him, like he did with Emma and Ando in other occasions (which was confirmed to be the source of his cancer), it disrupted his ability to teleport. If Hiro dies, there's no coming back, if he gets a blood transfusion, even if there is a single cancer cell left, it'll grow. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:30, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
What means Peter heals him after he has a blood transfusion? User:50000JH/signature
Again, you're not making much sense. We shouldn't have to have a hard time understanding what you mean. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 19:04, 23 October 2009 (EDT)- Now that you make sense: it makes no sense for Peter to give him a blood transfusion, he doesn't have Claire's ability, and as long as Hiro still has a tumor, getting that blood would only make him sicker. Giving him a transfusion after getting rid of the tumor would be pointless, because he would have already been healed by another ability. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:23, 24 October 2009 (EDT)
I mean what would happened if Hiro died because he still had the tumour, but Claire use her blood to bring him back to life and then Peter healed Hiro[50000JH 15:25, 17 November 2009 (EST)]
- If would be no use if the tumor was still there. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:03, 17 November 2009 (EST)
Matt
Would Matt finally heal Hiro's tumour, as he did when Angelia had her Commer?50000JH 15:29, 17 November 2009 (EST)
- Tumor and telepathy induced coma are vastly different things. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:03, 17 November 2009 (EST)
Vote to change wording on hiro's page
Under Once Upon a Time in Texas, we have "Hiro tackles Samuel and manages to teleport them both back to the present carnival." I vote that we change "teleport" to "tackleport" as it fully explains what he did, which is tackle-teleporting.Gamerelite1 19:54, 14 December 2009 (EST)
- "Tackleport" is not a word. On top of that, I'd hardly call what Hiro did to Samuel "tackling". --Ricard Desi (t,c) 20:43, 14 December 2009 (EST)
- I'd say it was very tackleish.Gamerelite1 19:29, 16 December 2009 (EST)
- Im sorry but this idea is retarded 'tackleporting' there are so many things wrong with that Melkor111
- I'd say it was very tackleish.Gamerelite1 19:29, 16 December 2009 (EST)
MQ
"You're not butterfly men, You're an evil butterfly men."
- - Hiro (To Samuel)
I really like this one, should we add it?-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 09:21, 26 December 2009 (EST)
- If you check this page you could probably add it there, if it isn't there already that is. As it is, I think we have enough for him, on his page, for the time being. -- Leckie -- Talk 09:26, 26 December 2009 (EST)
Mortal Enemy
Is Adam now Hiro's official mortal enemy or is it still Sylar? I am guessing that it's Adam. I know it was Sylar when he killed his beloved Charlie Andrews, but now he didn't. User:Blood69 14:33, 1 February 2010 (AEST)
- Adam is long dead, it's kind of hard to have a mortal enemy who's no longer around. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 17:29, 1 February 2010 (EST)
- ...or super easy! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:08, 1 February 2010 (EST)
- Adam's not long dead about a year or so. Melkor111
- ...or super easy! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:08, 1 February 2010 (EST)
Hiro's Death
Ok, Ando's supercharged Hiro twice now. So the Ando-kills-Hiro future is pretty much gone now right?--Boycool42 18:07, 20 February 2010 (EST)
- Unless there's more to his ability than he has discovered so far. --mc_hammark 18:13, 20 February 2010 (EST)
- Technically, Hiro's only been supercharged once. The first time was being shocked not amplifying his ability. I don't think there's more to Ando's power, we've seen, I guess, all it can do: supercharge others' abilities, shock things -- to bypass electrical gear and as electroshock therapy -- and it being used as concussive blast. The way Ando killed Hiro in a would-be future looks like a combination of the latter two. --Telos 8:54 24 February 2010 (EST)
Superhiro
Hiro has no tumor, has his full powers, and no longer has to worry about Charlie. oh, this is going to be good...--Boycool42 07:47, 25 February 2010 (EST)
- Anyone agree? Am I alone? T.T--Boycool42 16:11, 27 February 2010 (EST)
- If I'm being honest with you, that was more of a statement than someone looking for agreement. But yes. I can't wait to see what he does as well. --mc_hammark 16:13, 27 February 2010 (EST)
- Yeah, I wasn't really thinking when I posted that.--Boycool42 17:29, 1 March 2010 (EST)
- If I'm being honest with you, that was more of a statement than someone looking for agreement. But yes. I can't wait to see what he does as well. --mc_hammark 16:13, 27 February 2010 (EST)
Age
Is it safe to change his age to 30, since he was 28 in 2007? (He's also a few months older due to time-travel...)--Boycool42 16:04, 16 March 2010 (EDT)
- Anyone there? Hello?--Boycool42 07:15, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
- I'm not sure... I think it's more likely that he's older, 31, but 30 should be safe, I think.--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
- He was born before March 1979. Add 30 years, and we're at March 2009. It's been at least eight months since then in-universe. Plus time-travel aging. I think it should be safe to put his age as 31.--Boycool42 16:22, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
Saved the World
"I saved the world...twice." Hiro repeatedly says this line. What are the two times he saved the world up to Our Father (first occurrence of the line)? --Boycool42 07:35, 24 March 2010 (EDT)
- First time he "killed" Sylar. The second time he (thought) he stopped Adam from releasing the virus (which technically he did; had Adam been in there any longer, he would have released it). --mc_hammark 09:04, 24 March 2010 (EDT)
- Ah, I forget he stopped Adam. Thanks.--Boycool42 16:22, 25 March 2010 (EDT)
- Wouldn't it be three times now since he ripped up the formula in Dual? --?--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 21:08, 25 March 2010 (EDT)
- No matter how many times he saved it, he would have still have saved it at least twice. --mc_hammark 15:13, 26 March 2010 (EDT)
- When he ripped up the formula in Dual, he didn't save the world. He simply fufilled the end of a predestination paradox. Remember, at the beginning of the season Hiro only had one half of the formula. He was the one who split it in the first place.--PJDEP - Talk - Polls and Opinions 15:24, 26 March 2010 (EDT)
- And then he ripped it into dozens of pieces after he got back to present-day, stopping the world from splitting in half.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 21:48, 26 March 2010 (EDT)
- Wouldn't it be three times now since he ripped up the formula in Dual? --?--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 21:08, 25 March 2010 (EDT)
- Ah, I forget he stopped Adam. Thanks.--Boycool42 16:22, 25 March 2010 (EDT)
Pass/Fail
Why does Hiro feel so guilty about Sylar's murders? They were already committed. Hiro even saved one of them.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 09:05, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
- He feels guilty because, even though he was able to pull dozens of strings to save Charlie, he would never be able to save Sylar. His becoming a serial killer was, sadly, too important to the timeline. --Ricard Desi 10:53, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
- Who gives a flying f*** about the timeline? Hiro could have killed Sylar and stopped dozens of murders and prevented all the bad stuff that happened the past 4 seasons.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 11:56, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
- All at the expense of the entire space-time continuum asploding. --mc_hammark 12:31, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
- It hasn't exploded all the other times he screwed up the timeline. He could just go to Hiro (2006) and tell him to kill Sylar (2006). Simple. Logical.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 16:16, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
- I didn't say explode, I said asplode; it's much different. And if he did, it would just ruin the show... besides, he already tried that. --mc_hammark 16:20, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
- Asplode: "Used satirically in a Strong Bad E-mail as an example of poor Japanese to English video game translation." Please clarify.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 16:46, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
- The timeline would asplode. --mc_hammark 16:48, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
- So what's the difference between "explode" and "asplode"?--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 16:57, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
- The timeline would asplode. --mc_hammark 16:48, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
- Asplode: "Used satirically in a Strong Bad E-mail as an example of poor Japanese to English video game translation." Please clarify.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 16:46, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
- I didn't say explode, I said asplode; it's much different. And if he did, it would just ruin the show... besides, he already tried that. --mc_hammark 16:20, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
- It hasn't exploded all the other times he screwed up the timeline. He could just go to Hiro (2006) and tell him to kill Sylar (2006). Simple. Logical.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 16:16, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
- All at the expense of the entire space-time continuum asploding. --mc_hammark 12:31, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
- Who gives a flying f*** about the timeline? Hiro could have killed Sylar and stopped dozens of murders and prevented all the bad stuff that happened the past 4 seasons.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 11:56, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
- Without Sylar, Arthur's army and Samuel's carnival would have started a world war, most likely. Think about it. --Ricard Desi 19:01, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
- Ah, but with that, one could also argue that then jackie would never have been killed, claire wouldn't have met peter then the whole thing collapses. But I suppose it all depends on when Hiro kills Sylar. Let me know when, then I'll see if I can work out what would have happened based on everyone's path before they met someone who and any sort of link to sylar. Which also means that nathan may have never met hiro... god time is confusing... i don't know how hiro does it... --mc_hammark 19:04, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
- The carnival wouldn't start a war, because Joseph wouldn't die. Ok, if Hiro wanted to keep the world safe from Sylar, Peter, Adam, Arthur, and Samuel, this is what he needs to do: Snap Sylar and Arthur's necks, put Adam in his coffin, and keep Peter away from Ted Sprague. (Without Sylar and Arthur, there would be no Building 26 and thus, no evil Samuel). This would save an aditional 500 lives, the Bennet household would stay intact, Nathan would still be alive, and...Peter would probably kill himself without Claire, but that's a chance I'm willing to take.--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 07:36, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
- Ah, but with that, one could also argue that then jackie would never have been killed, claire wouldn't have met peter then the whole thing collapses. But I suppose it all depends on when Hiro kills Sylar. Let me know when, then I'll see if I can work out what would have happened based on everyone's path before they met someone who and any sort of link to sylar. Which also means that nathan may have never met hiro... god time is confusing... i don't know how hiro does it... --mc_hammark 19:04, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
Discrepancies in the Depiction of Hiro's Power
- In the conclusion of Game Over, Hiro leaves modern-day Renautas wearing his glasses and with his hair a long, tangled mess. He then arrives in June Whatever, 2013, without glasses and with his hair brushed and tied back (making the Master of Time and Space also the master of hair and face). This seemed a glaring mistake, but as I fueled my nerd rage for an internet tirade, it suddenly dawned that his travel powers have ALWAYS been represented inconsistently. Normally. his arrival at a location isn't noted by any people present, suggesting that he appears in a timeline wherein he is already present. However, this doesn't seem to hold up when the person present at an arrival destination is Ando. He always seems to see what we see on screen, Hiro popping into existence. And of course, people always seem to notice when he escapes their grasp with his power, when perhaps they should just be going about their business in blissful ignorance. OGRastamon (talk) 05:29, 24 October 2015 (EDT)--
- Well, before he teleported, he took of his glasses. So he might just put them in his pocket. It's not that far fetched. And the hair thing might be a production error. And I think they shot Odessa scenes beforehand and this episode is like 2-3 weeks later. So they probably forgot minor details.--Sekobro (talk) 17:14, 24 October 2015 (EDT)
- Or maybe Hiro and Noah made a little detour to get Hiro cleaned up?BananaClownMan (talk) 18:05, 24 October 2015 (EDT)