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Disservice

I think the "great disservice" part was that Hiro thought that he had not been doing his mission -- that he was just living a mundane life and not showing the bravery that his grandfather had exemplified. -Icewind 11.15.06 // 4:23PM

Hiro Nakamura runs out of mana. WTF. -Icewind 11.27.06 // 8:54PM

Hiro doesn’t stop time, he moves independently from it. Stopping time would have universal ramifications. One person moving independently from time, not so much. When it appears that time stops, Hiro is basically just moving really fast.--ASEO 11:04, 1 February 2007 (EST)


(To AESO)Where did you get the idea that Hiro Nakamura doesn't stop time? His power is space time manipulation, not super speed. --JLYK 01:46PM, 30/10.08


Hiro accidentally jumps away from Charlie. I still don’t understand why he doesn’t save her from being murdered, even if she is going to die anyway, at least she wouldn’t be murdered. --ASEO 11:04, 1 February 2007 (EST)

Shiro Nakamura of Nissan

Sounds fine. It's not stating that there's a necessary or causal relationship between one or the other, which we don't yet know. From my recollection, Hiro is named for sounding like "hero" and being explained somewhere that it's short for Hiroshima? Though dunno if that bit's canon. I've usually heard "Hiro" as short for Hiroyuki, though I guess there's likely other possibilities. His last name could be named after this Senior VP, or for some other reason, or be entirely coincidental. But it's just trivia. I usually figure if people read more into something than is actually written, they're the one's bearing the risk of going out on that limb. ^^ --Glue 05:48, 25 February 2007 (EST)

  • No comment on Shiro Nakamura (although, Nakamura is a popular Japanese last name -- see Saemi Nakamura). Just a quick note about his name: Hiro sounding like hero is a very cool connection -- I'm sure it's purposeful, but not canonical. He mentioned he was named after Hiroshima in Graphic Novel:The Crane. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:46, 26 February 2007 (EST)

Hiro's Blog Shutdown by Yamagato Industries

http://blog.nbc.com/hiro_blog/2007/03/notice_from_yamagato_industrie.php

What's up with that? --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 03/9/2007 14:46 (EST)

  • Oh, now that's just awesome. Those Yamagatans, they're such teases! — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:25, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Section Cleanup

The Powers section needs a bit of cleanup. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:42, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Hiro in Kanji

I'm not Japanese, but I have been involved with Japanese Wado Ryu Karate and Shindo Yoshin Ryu Jiujitsu for years and years. I noticed that the article wants the kanji for Hiro's name. Here are the two best choices taken from the online J-E Dictionary at: http://dict.regex.info/cgi-bin/j-e/dosearch?sDict=on&H=PS&L=J&T=Hiro&WC=none&FG=r&BG=b&S=26 They are:
1) Kanji-Hiro.gif"hiro":
the kanji entry which means 'fathom'
and is the most literal same romanji spelling of the name.

and
2) Kana-Hiro.gif"hirroo":
the kana entry which means 'hero'
, and is a contextually more accurate fit. I will list that graphic #2 on the main page. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 03/15/2007 17:12 (EST)

Being directed here by a fellow member with obviously more Wiki-experience than I have, I am willing to discuss what Hiro's name in kanji should be. He explained to me that I should have Asian fonts as uploaded pictures, however I believe this to be bulky and distracting to the flow and aesthetics of the article in general, and looking at almost every other page that utilizes Asian fonts, they all have them as regular text. What I'm trying to say is, if you don't have Asian fonts installed, you not that interested in knowing Hiro's authentic name! Ok, just kidding about that, but I stand by my original opinion that pictures make it bulky looking. And to think that everytime you want to type Asian fonts you would have to make a picture and upload it, it would be aggravatingly painstaking.

From my couple of semesters of Japanese at my university, I can safely assume that the correct kanji for Hiro's family name is: Nakamura.GIF

and his given name is: Hiro.GIF because it was stated his name is based on the city of Hiroshima. --Pred_0212 (talk) 03/17/2007 23:17 (CST)

  • Sounds reasonable. We just need to be careful that it's clear that this is probably Hiro's name in kanji, since it's never been shown on screen or in a comic. As for the pictures: yes, it looks bulky, but the alternative is users seeing little boxes, which gives the impression that we're sloppy and don't care. A user without Asian language support is unlikely to know they lack it. An alternative would be to use actual text and write a help article about installing Eastern language support, and make sure that a note with a link to it appears every time we use kanji (probably with a template). I actually kind of like that idea, but I don't even remember what was involved in adding Eastern language support, and I don't speak or read any Eastern languages. If you'd like to collaborate on it, I can set up the shell for the help page and add the template, if you're willing to provide instructions for at least IE and Firefox (and we should ask Admin how many and which non-IE/FF hits we get so we can add more if needed.)--Hardvice (talk) 00:29, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
    • I prefer the pictures (though they can be made smaller to be less bulky and less interrupting of flow) because I often work on Heroes Wiki at work. My computer there does not have Asian language support, and I have been denied permission to download it there ... go figure. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:40, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
      • Well, yeah. But you know what the little boxes mean, and if you didn't, then the help page would tell you, even if you couldn't do anything about it. I think Pred has a point: uploading (and maintaining) images is a pain compared to text (not that there's a ton of kanji, nor should there be, but still...) It's also less accessibility-friendly to have text as images (assuming a blind visitor has a speech browser than supports Eastern languages, I guess...) and is generally considered poor web design (at least without alt text, and alt text on Wiki is either the caption, or the filename if there's no caption). I definitely think images are the way to go on, say, The Symbol, because they're in a gallery and fit well with that page. But for a quick note on a character page or episode, straight text is probably the way to go. Besides, we already have a ton of non-image kanji that's snuck into the articles--including this one, I just noticed.--Hardvice (talk) 00:46, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
        • Right, I'm not saying we should use images, either. I'm just sorta playing devil's advocate, and stating my preference. Well, at least my preference for when I'm at work....That, and I'm just complaining about my 1982 model computer at work. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:07, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
    • Here's the template Wikipedia uses. We could conceivably add one for Indic text as well on the off chance somebody's able to translate Chandra's file for us, and use one centralized help page.--Hardvice (talk) 00:57, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
      • Thanks for the insight on how we should resolve this, Hardvice. You are right, we need to agree that it is probably his name, and I already knew that those characters are just going on assumption, perhaps I should have stated clearer. You are also right saying that the only Japanese probably to exist on this wiki would be on Hiro's page, and for the time being, it would be fairly limited to his Japanese name. I am willing to update Hiro's page with my contributions if it is the general consensus. --Pred 0212 01:34, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

Portal:Hiro

I have been wanting to create a portal or page for each main character. See my Sandbox for a very rough draft of one. Besides "Portal:Hiro" we could make it "World:Hiro" or the like. Thoughts? Comments? ---- Ohmyn0.jpgOhmyn0talk.jpg 20:54, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

  • Yeah, I think it's a nice idea. I'm not sure about the name, and there are some changes I would make, but I could see the concept fitting in with the site. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:17, 22 March 2007 (EDT)
    • I like that idea too. The one problem I see wiht that is because of the interconnections of all the characters, eventually everyone would have,like, 100 articles on their portal. Heroe(talk) 22:27, 22 March 2007 (EDT)
  • I like this quite a bit, and I think as long as we're reasonably careful about what's a related article, they won't be too enormously long. To avoid confusion with the main portals, which are category-driven, I'd suggest something along the lines of "Related articles:Hiro Nakamura", and possibly a multi-column approach (since most of the rows have only one or two links). As for the formatting, you could try using Template:PortalPlotPoints for everything: it's a nice, generic template with a ton of reflexes, including the ability to resize infinitely, and it doesn't do too bad of a job with character pictures. You could also use Template:imagelink which lets you use any image as a link without a special portal template and is also infinitely scalable. As for content, I think you did a good job (I might add Charlie and Hiro and the Dinosaur (painting), but others like the Japanese schoolgirl and Hiro's boss are probably minor enough to leave off).--Hardvice (talk) 01:38, 24 March 2007 (EDT)

I like the difference between the People and other portals, so I left them. I re-vamped it, so check it out again ---- Ohmyn0.jpgOhmyn0talk.jpg 00:47, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

  • I like the multicolumn one, but it might just be because the centered section titles creep me out. And listing the less important articles (which could also include stuff like Hope, Steve Gustavson, the High Roller, Ernie, and the like) as text links instead of portal images is a nice touch ... it gives us room to expand without making things too crowded.--Hardvice (talk) 02:40, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
    • It's looking better and better. One of my concerns is a standard for what we include. For instance, Hiro worked at the Burnt Toast Diner, so why not include it? Personally, I would include 9th Wonders!, too. But somebody else might think something else belongs or doesn't belong, and I'd hate to see a lot of back-and-forth over what's included. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 06:31, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
    • I have an idea similar to this. I want to create categories for articles related to certain characters. For example, "Telekinesis" and "Brain removal" would be under "Category:Sylar", "Yamagato" under "Category:Hiro", etc. Any one like this idea? Heroe(talk) 10:20, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
      • The idea of a category and a portal-type page are very similar, and I don't think we should do both. I tend to think a portal would be better--it'd be weird to see Yamagato Industries with categories like: Category:Businesses, Category:Galleries, and Category:Hiro. I'm just not sure a category is the right way to go--plus, a portal would be a bit more user-friendly. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:31, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
        • Maybe there could be a portal on the category, like on Category:Businesses? Heroe(talk) 10:34, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
          • Right, I think that's kind of what this is, only not on a category page. I'm not opposed to a page with Hiro-related articles, but I personally think putting a category on each of those pages is a bit much. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:00, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
      • I also don't think a category is an appropriate way to tie together a bunch of related-but-not-similar articles. Categories, when they're used properly (and yes, some of ours are a little too liberally used) organize articles by type of subject (a group of places, a group of items, a group of people) rather than relationship. Series bars organize a group of related articles regardless of type (articles related to Linderman, articles related to Sylar, etc.). Plus, the name of the category should describe its contents, so a category called "Sylar" would have one article in it: Sylar. A category called "articles related to Sylar" would work, but again, I think that's better accomplished through series bars and portals. It's just not what categories do best.--Hardvice (talk) 13:49, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
        • You reminded me of that category we used to have, "Jessica's victims". It's a good illustration of a poor choice for a category. We opted instead to go with a series bar and a page of its own. I think that the "portal" page Ohmyn0 has created is the better option, if we choose to go this route at all. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:22, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

I took off the training wheels and made a new page - Related Articles:Hiro. -- Ohmyn0(talk) 17:44, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

Age

So this page has listed that Hiro is 24 I believe since the page was created. The script (or a casting call??) said that was his age. However, Kaito said that he's been watching Hiro for "close to 30 years". Though that could still be 24 years (or 25 now, possibly), I'd say Hiro is a bit older than that. I'd feel much more comfortable taking the age off the infobox, and putting both ages in the notes until something more concrete is revealed. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:43, 25 September 2007 (EDT)

  • I think when a father is talking to his son's friend, saying close to 30 years is saying he's not 30 years, but he's not 20. 24 years is fine by me, since Ando more than likely knows the age of Hiro.--Bob 16:48, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
  • I agree. Right now it says "30", which is clearly wrong. I'd rather not have it listed. Heck, what with all of the age discrepancies of late, I'd almost just as soon remove age from the infobox. It almost always is "around" some age or requires an explanation.--Hardvice (talk) 21:59, 7 October 2007 (EDT)
    • Agree, it's much better off the infobox altogether. I'll add a note. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:51, 7 October 2007 (EDT)

In It's Coming, Ando or Hiro (I don't remember which one) states Hiro's age as 28-years-old. Videogamer99 11:17, 18 November 2008 (EST)

  • Ando reminded Hiro that he was 28 since he forgot. However, in Hiro's blog (written in 2006), Hiro says he's 24. Since there's a discrepancy between two sources (meaning one would have to negate the other), we remove the information and add it to the notes. I did that already. Check Hiro Nakamura#Notes. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:59, 18 November 2008 (EST)
    • Since when does the ARG have the same canon level as the show? You can't consider taking the age away.--Citizen 16:11, 18 November 2008 (EST)
      • It was explicitly stated in the show as an age of 28. This should, by all logic, overrule the blog post. --Ricard Desi 17:04, 28 November 2008 (EST)
        • yes, because Hiro can lie on the internet, but you don't lie to remind someone how old they are. even if the blog is considered canon --UrNoob 02:44, 11 December 2008 (EST)
          • There's actually a discrepancy in the episode itself. The subtitles say 28, but he actually says 29. Which takes precedence?--Leshia 04:44, 15 December 2008 (EST)
            • I agree with citizen,i think that hiro simply wrote his age wrong on the internet Gabriel Bishop 16:44, 25 December 2008 (EST) Gabriel Bishop

Occupation

Accordung to Kimiko at Yamagatofellowship.org, her brother is Yamagato Industries CEO! --Juba 10:45, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Don't you think it's so weird to think of Hiro as a CEO?? :) Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 18:32, 26 December 2008 (EST)

Nemesis

Why didn't Hiro just go back in time when Daphne stole the formula?--SkySeer 11:37, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

  • He stated that he doesn't wish to change time any longer due to the butterfly affect and what happened when he meet Adam. --Pinkkeith 11:51, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

Hiro and Arthur in Africa

I think we shoudn't say Hiro lost his power, mostly because there is no proof. Though Arthur put his hands of Hiro's head that doesn't mean he took it.

  • We have no further detail about Arthur's powers, he could've wiped his memory. Anyway i think it's safe to assume that he took Hrio's power already from Peter--Sylarversion2 22:10, 10 November 2008 (EST)
  • Doesn't mean he can't take it again. But still, we shouldn't list Hiro's ability as lost just yet. Who knows, Arthur could have just went straight to (God forbid) decapitating Hiro without taking his power. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:11, 10 November 2008 (EST)
  • True, he could also have used telepathy to do something to his mind that's a new branch of the power we don't know or uses too much mental power so he needs to hold onto Hiro's head--Sylarversion2 22:16, 10 November 2008 (EST)

What was he thinking?

Has anyone worked out a translation of what Hiro was saying when Matt read his mind in The Eclipse part 1? --Immelman 22:38, 26 December 2008

  • There are translations of it in one of the comments made at Otto's review of that episode at herosite, it was something about Hiro liking or wanting a turtle. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:26, 26 December 2008 (EST)
    • It was something to the effect of "Where's the turtle? I can't see the turtle! I wanna see the turtle!" --Ricard Desi (t,c) 21:31, 26 December 2008 (EST)

Power?

So what? Does he just have "time manipultion" now? --Peter 22:05, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

Hiro stated that Matt Jr. only "touch and go'd" one of his abilities. The time manipulation ability. Not the teleportation one. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:07, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
    • Are we making a new page for "time manipulation" or just leaving it as incomplete? Personally, I think we should make one and have "incomplete" link to it. --Peter 22:20, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
      • I don't really think that's necessary. I put the "incomplete" listing as a temporary placeholder for the condition of Hiro's abilities, but if anyone else has a better suggestion for that, then be my guest. I don't think we should make a separate page for time manipulation though. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:22, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
        • Chronokinesis is another way of putting it --Garthak 22:37, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
If Hiro can only manipulate time now should his power listing be similar to Peter's and Mohinder's? Also isn't it a little early to make conclusions? Then again the whole idea was to de-power Peter and Hiro wasn't it? If so Hiro may not get back the transportation aspect to prevent him being over powered again. The Light6 23:11, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
  • IMHO it's better to name Hiro's ability Time Stop. He wasn't shown teleporting or time traveling - it's clear. His ability isn't the same as before. But neither did Hiro slow or reverse time, he only stopped it. So Time Manipulation is a little ambiguous. --Altes 09:44, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
    • well when he "stops" time, he's really just slowing it down a lot, so he can slow down time for a fact. Whether he can travel through time is unknown.
      • Since Hiro wasn't injected with the formula, I'd leave his power as STM with a note saying that it's only partially restored. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:07, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
      • I don't think STM should be listed as "lost" as it is clear he has use of at least time stopping (we should have partially restored listed or restored aspect: time stopping or something like that). This isn't like the way Peter as a similar ability now, it seems Hiro has the same power that he had before (just one part of it). And even Hiro himself seems to think that baby Matt didn't touch all his powers yet, of course Hiro once thought he needed a sword to get his ability back. But i think the way we have it now is alright too :)--Sylar Fan09 16:12, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
    • I would have to disagree, Hiro still has the same power, it just has different aspects to it. Hiro can control the space-time continuum. When Hiro stops time, he doesn't actually freeze it, just slows it down to a crawl. Actually freezing time would have catastrophic effects, as all matter would cease to vibrate on the atomic level, dropping the thermal energy universally to absolute zero. This would of course kill Hiro instantly. He has been shown to manipulate time through slowing it down, reversing it, and allegedly speeding it up. He has also been shown to travel through periods of time. This is the same thing but on a micro and macro level, the same thing as walking to the store or walking cross country. The teleportation aspect is just an extension of the nature of time and space being inter-connected. If Hiro could not travel through space, his power would be pointless, as going 6 months into the future or whatever and remaining stationary would cause him to be floating in space due to the rotation and orbit of the planet. I vote for Partially Restored. Barbedknives 16:27, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
      • Well said! I competently agree! We should make it partially restored, at least for now. Who knows Hiro may regain all aspects of his power:)--Sylar Fan09 17:53, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
  • Excuse me, what's exactly 'partially restored'? Time manipulation describes what Hiro can do now, but it has the label. Maybe space-time manipulation is partially restored after all?--Altes 15:01, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
    • It's the same thing with synthetic abilities. Hiro had his power stolen, so it was lost, now he has part of that power, so it was partially restored, we're just naming the part he can access, it still links to the same power article. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:49, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
    • Hiro's new ability isn't synthetic, so space-time manipulation (partially restored) would be just what it really is. --Altes 09:21, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

I can't understand why were listing Hiro as having "lost" his "space-time manipulation" and having his "time manipulation" "partially restored". Hiro had space-time manipulation, lost it, and had it partially restored. "Time manipulation" can be used to describe his time stopping and time travel, so it is technically accurate to say "time manipulation" was "partially restored" but it really doesn't make sense to exclude space manipulation and not time travel from this second name. Also, we've already been given a canon name for ability, so we shouldn't be using a different name in an infobox. We're also implying that they're two different abilities, which contradicts what we say on space-time manipulation. - Josh (talk/contribs) 22:40, 15 May 2009 (EDT)

Can Hiro still get his power back?

I mean the whole thing? was thinking if ando supercharges baby matt jr, his power becomes better, giving it to hiro then getting his power back? I think maybe season finale, or next season. Or mabe one of them becomes smart and actualyl does it purposely... --345tom 16:22, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Although the writers said there will be no time travels anymore, I'd be happy seeing Hiro teleport again. --Altes 03:11, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
  • I say yes. I beleive that his ability, when not blocked out or taken, works only if he beleives it works, for evidence when he didn't have the sword in volume one and was about to be shot the bullet came slowly out of the gun and then moved backwords. Also when he had a fake sword his power did slow time down untill he found out. Feel free to visit mytalk page.--Autobot2 12:59, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
  • There will always be one way, but I doubt the writers would use it. Basically, every version of Hiro in the space-time continuum prior to Arthur stealing his power would have the full time traveling ability, so our present would be that Hiro's future. Since we've already seen characters traveling to their futures to prevent catastrophies, it is not unreasonable to assume that past Hiro, Peter, and Arthur would be capable of doing the same. -Barbedknives (talk) 23:44, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

Psychic Ability?

Since Hiro's ability gives him a nosebleed now, would that possibly make it psychic in nature? Leyviur (talk) 22:29, 26 April 2009 (EST)

  • I personally believe that Hiro's ability is getting harder and harder for him to use the further he gets away from Matt Parkman Jnr. (Or the longer it has been since he got "touch and go'd"), ergo the headaches (he touches his head after freezing time just before making Ando the bait) and the nosebleed. I think this shows that Matt Parkman Jnr's ability is not a permanent change. Poor Hiro, I'd love the writers to ditch the 'Time Stop' and bring back Teleportation! -- PowerSink

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What is Punishing Hiro?

It has become quite apparent that something is stopping Hiro from using his ability as of late. From a writing standpoint it was because the time travel plot device was becoming too unruly and confusing, so was being phased out. But what is the in universe explanation? If we go with space-time manipulation being too powerful or unstable, then why are many other evolved humans with equal or greater powers going untouched? For example, Sylar can have any number of devastating powers, but only the naturally unstable ones gave him problems, ie induced radioactivity, enhanced hearing, shape-shifting. Other than those he was perfectly fine in terms of ability capability. Is it fate? Predeterminism? What are your thoughts as to what is preventing Hiro from regaining his full capacity? -Barbedknives (talk)23:49, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Himself, unknowingly. He always knew one thing: time travel may cause a paradox. Paradox may destroy the world. -- Altes 02:41, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

Some one is delleting my messages, stop. Also his personality may have triggered the effect, soon before it happenned hiro accepted that he was not the only person who uses his ability to save the world. Also, he cursed twice in last episode and even said "payback is a ....."Not like hiro to me.--Hawkeye 11:40, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

Quite possibly time travel is by itself one of these unstable powers. Neither Arthur nor Peter would have used it enough times to discern any side effects, as Hiro only started showing signs after it was restored in Volume 4, by which point he'd used the power extensively. Remember that Arnold is also sick and dying of some unknown ailment. While neither Future Hiro nor Future Peter seemed ill in any way, it is possible the negative effects simply hadn't hit Future Hiro yet (Arnold presumably having the power all his life, and still living until old age). Future Peter would simply regenerate from any damage the power caused. There seems to be a decent case for the idea that any time-traveller will eventually grow ill as a result of their ability, much like regenerators lose their capacity to age or feel pain. That would be my hypothesis. Swm 18:44, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Arnold is just old, he was never implied to be dying because of his ability, he's just old, he might be sick, but there's nothing suggesting that his ability is causing it. Most likely he's simply not as fit to use his ability as he used to be. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:47, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Wasn't he? I seem to recall Samuel saying something to that effect when he asks him to send him back in time. Besides, doesn't he wear an oxygen tube? It seems abnormal for a man of even his age to need one due to just ageing. Swm 18:51, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Him being sick or debilitated doesn't mean it comes from his ability, sure he might be sick, he could be weak due to his old age, and if he's sick, he might not be able to strain himself too much, in a way that using his ability could be. Other than his old age, and Hiro with his condition, I don't think we've ever seen someone having a limited use of an ability due to sickness or any other frailty. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:59, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Once Upon A Time In Texas seems to confirm that time travel is a dangerous power. Samuel says to Hiro, regarding Arnold: "His body couldn't handle the strain of using his ability. He had a brain tumour, like you." While it's possible the tumour is unconnected to the ability, the first part of the quote seems to indicate that any time traveller's body will undergo some stress after enough uses of the power, especially since Arnold dies right after using it to trap Charlie somewhere in time. Swm

  • I think you may find this interview interesting, Masi Oka explains there how Hiro got the tumor. Green.gif AltesUTC CH

This is getting kind of absurd.

So Mohinder tells Hiro his body is rejecting his ability "like a virus." First of all, bodies don't 'reject' viruses. They fight them as per needed with the body's defenses. A rejection would be caused by something like an organ transplant of a wrong blood type, which might make sense depending on how they explain it; I'm assuming his ability is still genetic and not synthetic (which has a higher chance of being rejected physiologically anyway, yet nobody else shows similar symptoms) and using it makes him activate the encoders in his DNA, which causes the rejection symptoms (which wouldn't make sense anyway but let's suspend disbelief for a second), but if that were the case, he should've felt these effects right at season 1, so that wouldn't make sense. If Mohinder's talking about a virus triggering an overreaction, that would make it an autoimmune disease, and I have never seen an autoimmune disease that causes bleeding from the nose, eyes, ears, dizziness, and arm stiffness. Considering Hiro's ability is part of his DNA, it's more likely that autoimmune is more the case for his condition than a virus-like condition. Even then, autoimmune disease are mostly localized to one part of the body, so I'm currently assuming it's like some autoimmune condition of the brain, thus causing harm to eyes, ears, nose, and dizziness. Still wouldn't really explain his arm stiffness though. Unless it's attacking his whole nervous system, in which case ... good lord. -User:Leyviur10:17, 1 May 2009 (PST)

  • I say it's lupus. -- Altes 02:01, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
  • Hiro's new power slowly kills him, that's for sure. He needs his mom's help again... Oh, she's dead. -- Altes 02:12, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
  • IMHO its better for the show, if he has no restrictions he is way to powerful. He would escape from any danger in a blink, save or kill people in a blink which introduces plot holes in the storyline. Maybe the explanation they are giving is not the best one but definitely a necessary one. Jfjhong 07:29, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
  • I still say Hiro's gonna be able to stop time three times a day. He only had a headache after three, but he got a nosebleed on the fifth. The writers wouldn't just give Hiro powers, then say 'Look, but don't touch.' LimaBean 12:24, 10 May 2009 (EDT)
    • I agree. The writers wouldn't give him the abilities for just a few episodes. He will probably be able to use it a couple times a day before feeling the effects of it.

Who Hiro and Ando could be base on

If you have seen Crocodile Dundee the screen where they at the train station, the two Japanses actor look like Hiro and Ando, when that says Mick is Clint Eastwood(cowboy)I might the name wrong. 50000JH

Yet another...

...actor for young Hiro? Is it so hard to call back one of the actors who played him already? I liked Garrett Masuda better than this Mikey Kawata. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:09, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Orientation

It seems to me as though hiro has both time and teleportation restored my matt parkman JR. Although still in Tokyo, when he travelled back 14 years he teleported to the location of the carnival. So he must have both of them, just very little control over them. --mc_hammark 15:12, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

  • Baby Matt restored Hiro's power, but it malfunctions for some reason. What may it be? Green.gif AltesUTC CH
    • It looks like baby matt forcing his powers back on has given him an incomplete, damaged version. Baby matt probably just turned on what arthur didn't completely take away from him.
      • Or Matt Jr. isn't really good at what he can do. I think Hiro can be saved if Matt deactivates his power. Green.gif AltesUTC CH
        • Or just deactivate the illness or something Meesa yoda 13:11, 27 September 2009 (EDT)
          • Well I doubt Matt Jr. can choose so accurately what to deactivate. He is a baby after all. Green.gif AltesUTC CH

Hiro HAS teleportation

i suppose this will be the start of a long debate, but Hiro must have his teleportation aspect of his ability. Otherwise, in Jump, Push, Fall how would he be able to go straight to the carnival. Unless the building he was working in wasn't built 14 years ago. But to me it is clear that his ability has been fully restored, not partially! --mc_hammark 14:02, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

  • I agree. Not about the long debate, but about Hiro being able to teleport. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
    • I believe that what it is meant is that Hiro has yet to show teleportation, as in going from A to B, without moving in time. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 19:27, 7 October 2009 (EDT)
      • Well now he has teleportd to peter's apartment. He has the whole ability now.