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Rounded Corners implementation

• Where is this Nifty talk page? Now you got me interested in checking it out. PS: Spraying the pan with Pam, even the generic kind, helps too. ;)--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:22, 30 September 2007 (EDT)
  • Ok, I found the link in MediaWiki:Common.js and refreshed my memory. I think this was discussed before, but I'm not sure how you are considering to implement it now. We could define a new class for tables and divs that automatically converts the borders to be rounded when specified. And another thing to note is not every box or even every corner needs rounding... the character box is fine as-is, imho.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:21, 1 October 2007 (EDT)
    • Character box is already rounded in browsers which support it. What we're talking about is making the IE version look like the Firefox version. We're not going to pick and choose which ones to make look like they were rendered in a competent browser.--Hardvice (talk) 00:52, 1 October 2007 (EDT)
      • I'm at loss, then, as to why you were suggesting needing to change template code to make it work in IE? Couldn't the changes just be done in MediaWiki:Common.js after testing that the browser is IE?--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:24, 1 October 2007 (EDT)
        • No. Nifty corners requires a combination of CSS and Javascript. The CSS needs to be in the templates for the script to affect them.--Hardvice (talk) 02:54, 1 October 2007 (EDT)
          • Hmm, when I view the source for the main page in IE, I see things like "-moz-border-radius:10px;" as a table attribute. That's what firefox uses to determine that a corner is required and I thought you could just add the extra info IE needs every time such code appears. I'll take a closer look at Nifty tommorrow and try to determine what the CSS is that needs to be added tp the templates (not Common.css). I'm not seeing it right now.--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:36, 1 October 2007 (EDT)
            • We're actually already working on this offsite and have a pretty good idea what we're doing. The Nifty script we're using requires that IDs be assigned to the elements to which it will be applied. Those IDs need CSS at both the stylesheet level and the wiki article level, as well as individual function calls in common.js, and a lot of the markup we currently use in our templates is incompatible with the way the script does up the rounded corners. Since the CSS needs to be in the template level anyway, we're looking at possibly replacing, not supplementing, the -moz-borders (the script generally leaves things looking OK if Javascript is turned off, so it's possible to leave the moz code in and make the Javascript agent-specific, but we might have to make incompatible changes to the templates because some of the stuff we do all the time in templates (like image links) breaks the way the script renders either borders or corners.) But yes, to get it to work properly in a wiki, we need three separate things (well, four if you count the actual script): a function call in common.js, a style block in common.css, and at least an ID (and possibly an inline style block, depending on the formatting) in the individual element to which it needs to apply. Since a lot of the actual formatting (colors, borders, and the like) is specified in both common.js and common.css, it's not quite as simple as setting up a class and applying it to all the elements we want affected--and that's setting aside the compatibility issues with the actual existing markup in our templates. We can't simply apply the same class or ID to all corners we want rounded on the whole site because each function call needs to know the inside and outside colors of the corner, the border style, the corner size, and which corners to round, and that changes from template to template. One function won't do it; neither will one class in common.css--and in any case, we're always going to have to go through each and every rounded element to assign an ID so the script will apply to it and make sure the markup doesn't break the corner rendering.--Hardvice (talk) 04:40, 1 October 2007 (EDT)
              • You can do multiple functions and class definitions in common.js, and I don't see why you can't grab all of that info. using one or more javascript functions and pass it to another. Thanks, I appreciate the lengthy explanation, but the only thing that made sense to me is about the image links breaking the script. I'll check into it more, I guess, when you finish adding it, since it's being worked on offsite where I can't see.--MiamiVolts (talk) 13:50, 1 October 2007 (EDT)

Rounded Corners - involved?

• Is it really that involved, though? There are less than 200 templates, and as far as I can tell, it's mostly a cut and paste job after the script is written. Or am I completely missing something. BTW, the best gravy has chunks. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:38, 30 September 2007 (EDT)
  • It depends. Most of them will be cut-and-paste. And most of the infoboxes are enough alike that, even if we have to redo them, we can do it once and update twenty or so templates quickly. But some of them are designed in ways that are incompatible with the Nifty scripts, so we might have to recreate them--particularly anything with alternate or variable colors. I messed around with the character box, for example, and it might prove challenging. The nice thing is we can pretty much spend as long as we want getting them working on the other site, and then copy them over here when they're working. Some other snags: it's not going to work very well with pages that have more than one blurb without some redesign work. It's manageable, all in all, but I wanted to make sure we agree it's worthwhile before we start ripping stuff apart.--Hardvice (talk) 23:18, 30 September 2007 (EDT)
    • Did things really look that bad using IE7? Or did they just look different? Maybe it's just easier for me to force everyone that comes here to install Firefox. :) I wouldn't do that, but I can wish. (Admin 23:45, 30 September 2007 (EDT))
      • Mostly just different. The square boxes look so primitive now that I'm used to the rounded ones. I think that's the reason for my hesitation: as Morrissey would put it, "such a little thing, but the difference it made was grave".--Hardvice (talk) 00:00, 1 October 2007 (EDT)

Please Change my Username

• So I tried to change my username via move. It didn't work. I tried changing my nickname and some redirects. Close, but no cigar. Could you pretty please change my username to Yatta!? If you think it'll confuse people between the User and the article, don't sweat it and I'll just stick with Danielandthelions (NissanVersaDootDoot 18:17, 5 October 2007 (EDT))
  • Haha. Check your talk page, we were thinking the same thing. I'll rename your account now. (Admin 18:18, 5 October 2007 (EDT))
    • Thank you! (NissanVersaDootDoot 18:36, 5 October 2007 (EDT))

Heidi Change

• Hi, I was wondering why you reverted a grammatical clean-up I made to the Heidi Petrelli article, specifically her "Four Months Later" reference? The original sentence has no period and isn't as explanatory as it could be. The revert comment, "restoring original perspective", also bewilders me; I'm certain my structuring maintains the perspective of a viewer and not of someone in-universe or otherwise. (Revengeance 12:42, 7 October 2007 (EDT))
  • Hey there. The revision got reverted because on the Heidi Petrelli when I saw your change on 10/1 it looked like it had just been rewritten to be from Angela and Nathan's perspective instead of from Heidi's perspective (plus I didn't notice any drastic issues with the way it was written originally). Since it's Heidi's article it makes more sense for it to be written from her perspective. If you'd like to correct any grammar and ensure that it remains from Heidi's perspective, that'd be great! Hope this helps. :) (Admin 13:17, 7 October 2007 (EDT))
  • Your edit was, as you correctly stated, in the perspective of a viewer. The correct perspective for in-universe articles like Heidi's is an in-universe perspective. You're right, the sentence is missing a period, so I just added one. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:22, 7 October 2007 (EDT)
  • Thanks for answering. I'm sorry, but I don't know if I'm thinking of "Heidi's perspective" in the same way you are. You don't mean that a sentence like, for example, "Heidi left Nathan" should be rewritten through Heidi's eyes as "I left Nathan", do you? (Revengeance 14:02, 7 October 2007 (EDT))
    • Instead of saying the perspective was off, I probably should have said that the summary should be "centered on Heidi". More specifically, if Heidi remains the subject of the sentence rather than being in the predicate then the summary should be good. (Admin 14:05, 7 October 2007 (EDT))
    • As for your question about first vs. third person: the correct perspective is still in the third person, but as though the world of Heroes is real (avoiding mentions of scenes, episodes, viewers, commercial breaks, and the like). I personally don't see a perspective issue (though, arguably, "it is unknown" could be seen as being the viewer's perspective).--Hardvice (talk) 14:47, 7 October 2007 (EDT)
    • Yeah, I sort of understand what RyanGibsonStewart was talking about now. I didn't get the main perspective used around here because for one, I'm used to Wikipedia's viewer-oriented perspective and two, I hadn't even noticed the difference to begin with. Well, I guess I learnt something. Thanks again. (Revengeance 08:01, 8 October 2007 (EDT))

Hardvice... Ryan... which if you haven't been to sleep yet? :)

• Amusingly enough, I can probably get both of your attention by just posting on my own user page. :) I seem to have forgotten to go to sleep tonight. Oops. (Admin 06:47, 9 October 2007 (EDT))
  • Ditto.--Hardvice (talk) 06:53, 9 October 2007 (EDT)
    • Yeah, don't you love nights like that? ... I went to sleep, and woke up about 45 minutes ago (which is later than usual for me). -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 06:53, 9 October 2007 (EDT)
      • I am about to rectify my lack of sleep. See y'all in a couple hours.--Hardvice (talk) 06:56, 9 October 2007 (EDT)
        • I am about to join the rat race. Later gators. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:03, 9 October 2007 (EDT)

Re: German wiki administrators

• If i have to name a user or two, then it would be Taco and Muffin84, they've been doing quite a lot lately and are open for discussion etc. Waldmeister 04:58, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Sanderses'

• How can this seem to be correct? It's most certainly not correct by any stretch of the imagination. A plural noun does not to be made plural! Geez, I have a degree in English and Speech Communication or it probably wouldn't even bother me. I don't understand why the totally incorrect, unsupported form of the word is being used when it is very readily and easily available to find the correct usage. Look here: http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000132.htm or here http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/possessives.htm Using -es on a proper noun that ends in -s is just wrong. Using -es AND apostrophe is just doubly wrong because it is redundant and incorrect. "If a singular proper noun ends in s, add an apostrophe." http://grammar.uoregon.edu/case/possnouns.html
  • Look here it is right from the University of Oregon: If a singular proper noun ends in s, add an apostrophe. http://grammar.uoregon.edu/case/possnouns.html
    • It's not singular, though, it's plural. We're referring to the home of the family named Sanders which can be called The Sanderses for instance. (Admin 19:46, 14 October 2007 (EDT))
  • To quote the second link:

Some writers will say that the -s after Charles' is not necessary and that adding only the apostrophe (Charles' car) will suffice to show possession. Consistency is the key here: if you choose not to add the -s after a noun that already ends in s, do so consistently throughout your text. William Strunk's Elements of Style recommends adding the 's. (In fact, oddly enough, it's Rule Number One in Strunk's "Elementary Rules of Usage.") You will find that some nouns, especially proper nouns, especially when there are other -s and -z sounds involved, turn into clumsy beasts when you add another s: "That's old Mrs. Chambers's estate." In that case, you're better off with "Mrs. Chambers' estate."

• • Emphasizing consistency, this site does not drop the possessive "s", but keeps it. --Bob 19:46, 14 October 2007 (EDT)
    • That's a different issue. That's referring to singular names. The whole issue here is that we're using the names in the plural. (i.e. The Sanderses went out to dinner.) (Admin 19:49, 14 October 2007 (EDT))
      • The point is this site adds something totally incorrect and irrelevant. It does not need -es and an apostrophe. The -es is totally superfluous and wrong. If you want to leave it up that is fine, but it is not correct. "Sanders" is a singular proper noun that ends in -s, therefore adding the apostrophe makes it plural and possessive.

Re: Long day

Ha, I couldn't remember if I was supposed to reply in my discussion page or not, but I digress. But you guys are right, the standards say if it's common it should be used. When it comes to that, I usually use the List of Comic Book Superpowers - I didn't see anything. And in this case, "reflex" just throws me off. Heh, if you knew me in person you'd see how I correct people on term definitions all the time. It's actually quite annoying. But yeah, it just doesn't seem right.--Riddler 23:51, 15 October 2007 (EDT)

• I find it easier to just reply on the discussion page where it was started, but since it's here now I'll just continue it here. I wasn't the biggest fan of "photographic reflexes" originally either, but I'm coming around to it. It's got the benefit of being very similar to that Taskmaster guy, it was the term used by the National Enquirer for her power (they might have access to some good source of information because they've been very close on all their spoiler predictions so far), plus it follows the naming convention we're applying to all power names. No name will be loved by everyone... I still dislike plant manipulation for instance, but I've learned to just accept it and worry about other things instead. :) (Admin 23:55, 15 October 2007 (EDT))
  • I'm personally just hoping they re-name the god-awfully silly name in the show. Maybe Micah will make some boy-genius note about it. Also, alot of hyphens in this post. XD =P--Riddler 23:57, 15 October 2007 (EDT)
    • Yeah, I agree. I wish Mohinder would get off his butt and continue with his father's research and name all these new powers once and for all! :) We need Hiro to bring Chandra back...he knows how to get this stuff done! (Admin 23:58, 15 October 2007 (EDT))
      • Seriously. We DO have full scientific names like "Rapid Cellular Regeneration." XD--Riddler 00:00, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

Question.

Is there a template or general guideline on how to order the things in the story development? I wanna check that out. --Riddler 00:02, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

• I'm not sure, I've never added anything to that section before. I'd say take a look at the past few episodes to get an idea what goes there and then just go to town. If anyone with experience working with that section sees something that needs to be changed I'm sure they will. (Admin 00:05, 16 October 2007 (EDT))
  • I took a look at the things in the last few episodes, they don't seem to be in any specific order; they're not in order of occurrence, they're not in ABC order... hmm...--Riddler 00:07, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
    • There's no standard. They're generally in order of appearance, but sometimes people will just add things in the end. I don't think it matters too much one way or the other, but it's probably best to put them generally in the order in which they appear. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:19, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
      • What I also noticed is that the episodes prior to Season Two have much less... the more recent ones seem to include everything even minor. Then again, I didn't go back ALL the way. Probably just a season starting thing.--Riddler 00:21, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
        • (Party on Admin's talk page!) Yeah, I noticed that, too, with Kindred. I almost deleted all the guards, since I don't remember listing such minor characters and plot points, but I guess they're not hurting anything.--Hardvice (talk) 00:34, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

Comments, people! COMMENTS!

For the love of Uluru, is it possible to require comments for non-minor edits within particular namespaces? There is a barrage of uncommented edits after every show it seems. -- FissionChips 12:19, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

• I don't think it's possible to require them, but it's possible to set everyone by default to be prompted if they don't enter a comment. We discussed the matter a long time ago and the decision at the time was that we didn't want to confuse people by making it a default. If you want to start a new discussion about it and solicit feedback on the Community Portal you're welcome to. (Admin 12:22, 16 October 2007 (EDT))
  • Alrightie. Thanks for the direction. -- FissionChips 12:36, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

categories

• Hey there. The links that look like [[de:]] or [[fr:]] are interwiki links to articles on the translated versions of Heroes Wiki. Taco's an administrator over on the German Heroes Wiki so he's adding links to our articles so that on the left side it will say "In other languages" and German will be an option. Hope that helps! :) (Admin 16:39, 16 October 2007 (EDT))
  • So this is how it works!! I was searching for a link, and didn't find it, so I assumed it was a useless cat, and removed it. Thanks for the tips ;) Good to know! --  (talk) 16:41, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

Set-ups for new episodes

• Does an admin have to do all the setting up for the next episode on Mondays (for example, add the checklist, update template:nextepisode, etc) or can anyone do it? --  Lost Soul   talk  contribs  12:04, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
  • Anyone can do it. :) Very few things can only be done by admins... like deleting pages for instance. If it's not done already I'd say go for it! (Admin 12:06, 22 October 2007 (EDT))
    • I know there are sites like Lostpedia where all episode pages are protected until after airing; lots of templates are protected and so are many other pages. We really have never had a big problem with vandalism (knock on wood), but I think it's safe to say that our general philosophy is that there's no edit that can't be undone or fixed. Incidentally, all of the episode pages through 208 have already been set up with the general templates and layouts; they just need to be updated (a ton) once the episode airs. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:21, 22 October 2007 (EDT)

The donation to sarmy

• That's cool that you're donatin' $300 in the name of sarmy to Give Life (not affiliated with the Red Cross). I do believe a buncha fangirls who wanna "Be A Gray Girl" (note the anagram) are very appreciative of your contribution. They sure like gushin' about ZQ/Gabe/Sylar and the mentions they're receiving! Just wanted to say kudos, if it hasn't been said here yet. 'ROESian