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Evil Butterfly Man

This was a good episode, but why did so many things get screwed up? --Boom D  83  21:02, 2 November 2009 (EST)

• Nothing got screwed up.
  • Not exactly. The timeline as we perceive it has been screwed up beyond all recognition.--Gibbeynator 23:01, 2 November 2009 (EST)

Room 108

Did anyone else notice how the name of the room, i forget her name, was staying in was the same number as the episode in season 1 took place: Chapter Eight- Seven Minutes To Midnight, episode number 108. daevon 21:09, 2 November 2009 (EST)

• Ooohh....nice catch! I actually saw a refernce to the number 9 theory.--Anthony Gooch 21:12, 2 November 2009 (EST)
  • Maybe it's both? daevon 21:24, 2 November 2009 (EST)
    • Maybe it's a Lost reference, maybe it's a religious reference. Maybe they just liked the number 108--Gibbeynator 23:05, 2 November 2009 (EST)
      • 108 Stars of Destiny maybe?--Markus 00:23, 3 November 2009 (EST)

The Ending

Am I the only person who did not see that coming? And am I the only person who is also happy at the ending?--Icefire227 21:17, 2 November 2009 (EST)

• I didn't but when they were hovering over the body, I thought that it was Nathan for a second! ~~IHH—Talk 21:21, 2 November 2009 (EST)
• I thought that it was going to be Joseph (Samuel's brother) for a second, not Mohinder. I just want to know if this counts as the main character that is supposed to be killed off that Greg Grunberg tweeted about.--Icefire227 21:24, 2 November 2009 (EST)

Yeah, I was expecting Samuel to be involved with his brother's death.--Anthony Gooch 21:27, 2 November 2009 (EST)

Mohinder is NOT Joseph

Guys, where do you get it from? Samuel didn't say I'm sorry Joseph. He said "Sorry. I'm so sorry". --Janrodrigo 21:42, 2 November 2009 (EST)

• We thought that before we saw his face. Ya know we never did get an explanation for Joseph's death so everyone thought we were about to.--WarGrowlmon18 22:46, 2 November 2009 (EST)

Well it's nice to see Suresh again

Even if it looks like he's a corpse now. At least we got a hopefully definitive answer as to where he's been...--Gibbeynator 22:12, 2 November 2009 (EST)

Masi Oka

Awsome acting from him. Totally deserves that award he just got.--Ratclaws 23:23, 2 November 2009 (EST)

Kid and black hat Sylar

Anyone else find that funny: kid says bad guy's wear black hats and seconds later Sylar, the bad guy, shows up wearing a black hat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--WarGrowlmon18 23:59, 2 November 2009 (EST)

• Out of the mouth of babes comes the truth. Yeah. AltesUTC CH

Sylar/Hiro

It was hilarious when Hiro wheeled Sylar out of the diner all the way into a bus, with Sylar's finger still in the slicing position. I also laughed when Hiro said Sylar was a doctor, and Sylar gave a wide-eyed surprised look. Also a perfect performance from Zach Quinto (Sylar), who acted just exactly like the season 1 Sylar. --JLYK

Sylar saving Charlie

Okay so how was he able to use telekinesis to heal Charlie's brain anuyerism???--WarGrowlmon18 01:34, 3 November 2009 (EST)

• Pulled it out of her eye, maybe? AltesUTC CH
• I got the impression he crushed the clot somehow using TK, then let the fluid out of her eye. Remember Sylar had even at that point studied a bunch of textbooks about brains, so the actual process is probably more complicated. Swm 05:20, 3 November 2009 (EST)

Timeline

Given that this episode happens in October 8, 2006 an that they say it's 3 years ago from "now", can we deduce that "now" is around October 2009? The timeline might not be inconsistent. Many people (including me) ask themselves how we got to 2009 from 2007, one possible answer is that Fugitives may have lasted much more then we tought. --Janrodrigo 01:35, 3 November 2009 (EST)

• I completely agree. And we'll have to edit some dates. Danko's death, the deaths of Sylar's victims during Fugitives - I think it isn't speculative to say James Martin and Tom Miller were killed in 2009, since it was a couple of months before Redemption. AltesUTC CH

Pistol Petey

Ugh. The end credits identify the boy as "Pistol Petey." There's something you want on your resume... --CourtesyofTVRage.com 01:41, 3 November 2009 (EST)

Actors/characters

Elisabeth Röhm (image)

Lauren Gilmore (image)

Bryce Hurless (image)

Petey (image)

Jessica Whitaker (image)

Wildcats cheerleader     Wildcats cheerleader (upload)

Candace Smith (image)

Miss Roberts (image)

Just the first trial. By the way, another cast member Candace Smith is credited as Miss Roberts but didn't see her in the episode. Does anyone know who she is? --Janrodrigo 02:14, 3 November 2009 (EST)

• There's a line in Seven Minutes to Midnight about Ms. Roberts assigning the banner-making to Claire. She is Claire's teacher. NileQT87 02:36, 3 November 2009 (EST)
  • Thank you Nile. I added her to the list above. By the way, we've to decide a name for the Cheerleader too. --Janrodrigo 02:53, 3 November 2009 (EST)

There were six cheerleaders. The one above was #1, #4 was in Dollhouse a few weeks ago. #2 and #3, nothing TV-wise as far as I can tell. #5 in As the Bell Rings as Tiffany. #6, there are a couple of people named Alison Page, but one was in a couple of eps of Days of Our Lives last year, and one was on an inventor TV show. --CourtesyofTVRage.com 08:47, 3 November 2009 (EST)

Hiro thinks that Sylar is dead?

Looking at the way he told Sylar about his "death" in the future, this means that Hiro thinks that Sylar is dead until now? --JLYK

• Hiro attended James Martin's cremation, who was killed while in Sylar's form. Everyone except for Angela, Noah and Matt think he is dead. AltesUTC CH
  • But did Hiro know that Sylar survived Kirby Plaza? I don't think they've ever seen each other since the end of season 1. --Gibbeynator 08:21, 3 November 2009 (EST)
    • Well... Hiro also saw Usutu's painting of four villains, so he could figure out Sylar was alive. AltesUTC CH
      • Well, it's just that Hiro says that everyone gathered to stop Sylar, and he died. It seems pretty clear he's talking about Kirby Plaza.--Gibbeynator 08:33, 3 November 2009 (EST)

Why?

Did Samuel kill Mohinder? If he did, then why? Mohinder had a power, and he'd love to come to a carnival full of potential test subjects... did he abandon "his faaaatha's reseeearch" or did it somehow stand in Samuel's way? AltesUTC CH

• Samuel seems to hate humans. Let's not forget that Suresh was a normal human until he made the first version of the formula. Samuel could see giving humans powers as a threat. At least, that's what I think.--Gibbeynator 08:45, 3 November 2009 (EST)

Am i the first..

..if not the only one to spot the chrono trigger reference..the super nes rpg which dealt with time travel..and another thing, that marle and charlie are both redheads (as was "mj" heh)..this makes masi's character an uber geek..awesome line for hiro! ;) User:Denzel01

• I saw it too, and isn't Marle blonde?--Gibbeynator 07:26, 3 November 2009 (EST)
• Yes i did have a thought she was blondish..it has been 10 years since i was holding by the game..mebbe make ur mind up here: http://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Marle --User:Denzel0114:36, 3 November 2009
  • Yeah, she looks like a blonde in those pictures. That is a newer picture though, I think earlier art had her with orange hair.--Gibbeynator 08:17, 3 November 2009 (EST)

Lauren - Company Agent?

So how does she fit into the timeline? Standard policy is Noah's often-cited "One of us, one of them" matching of a normal with an evolved. And wasn't Noah partnered with the Haitian in this timeframe originally? They were together in "Hiros" when they captured Nathan and subsequently watched him escape. Granted, he doesn't show up again until "Homecoming", but this episode overlaps the events of "Seven Minutes to Midnight" which takes place just before "Homecoming", where he's seen as part of the Sylar capture operation. But even if they broke up the Noah/Haitian partnership briefly, that would still mean that Lauren would have to be evolved, since she worked at least one other bag-n-tag with Noah. --CourtesyofTVRage.com 09:03, 3 November 2009 (EST)