Theory:Kaito Nakamura: Difference between revisions
imported>Crystal Wolf No edit summary |
imported>Intuitive Empath Leave there, otherwise people will keep adding, interview disproved enhanced teaching, |
||
| Line 7: | Line 7: | ||
| Kaito is still alive and has [[empathic mimicry]]. || None. || {{minus}} How would anyone have thought he was dead unless they found a body? If they found Kaito's body, he should be dead.<br /> |
| Kaito is still alive and has [[empathic mimicry]]. || None. || {{minus}} How would anyone have thought he was dead unless they found a body? If they found Kaito's body, he should be dead.<br /> |
||
|- |
|- |
||
| Mr. Nakamura is an [[evolved human]]. || None. || {{plus}} Kaito tells Hiro that he has waited a long time for a Nakamura to ascend and that he has proven himself worthy of his legacy and his power. |
| Mr. Nakamura is an [[evolved human]]. || None. || {{plus}} Kaito tells Hiro that he has waited a long time for a Nakamura to ascend and that he has proven himself worthy of his legacy and his power. When Hiro asks his father about his own power, his father replies, saying that he knows, but for a time, he did not believe Hiro had the strength to wield his gift. Kaito continues, saying that years ago, he had allies, others with power and that they fought to save the world. (''[[Landslide]]'')<br /> |
||
{{plus}} Kaito is affiliated with [[the Company]], which is also affiliated with [[Linderman]]. He may be one of Linderman's super-powered associates from the past.<br /> |
{{plus}} Kaito is affiliated with [[the Company]], which is also affiliated with [[Linderman]]. He may be one of Linderman's super-powered associates from the past.<br /> |
||
{{plus}} [[Micah]]'s and [[Claire]]'s abilities have been [[power heredity|inherited]]. If this is consistent, Mr. Nakamura also has powers.<br /> |
{{plus}} [[Micah]]'s and [[Claire]]'s abilities have been [[power heredity|inherited]]. If this is consistent, Mr. Nakamura also has powers.<br /> |
||
| Line 19: | Line 19: | ||
:{{note}} The implication is ''are'' versus ''were'', as one would normally say "what were his powers" when referring to a dead man. This suggests he isn't dead, or his powers somehow allow him to transcend death.<br /> |
:{{note}} The implication is ''are'' versus ''were'', as one would normally say "what were his powers" when referring to a dead man. This suggests he isn't dead, or his powers somehow allow him to transcend death.<br /> |
||
::{{note}} Not necessarily. It could be in present tense because it still applies to Hiro and all the others with abilities who are alive.<br /> |
::{{note}} Not necessarily. It could be in present tense because it still applies to Hiro and all the others with abilities who are alive.<br /> |
||
|- |
|||
| Mr. Nakamura has the power of enhanced teaching. || None. || {{plus}} Mr. Nakamura taught [[Hiro]] advanced sword techniques in the course of one day. (''[[Landslide]]'')<br /> |
|||
{{minus}} Mr. Nakamura says that has been waiting for a member of his family to ascend, suggesting he has no powers of his own. (''[[Landslide]]'').<br /> |
|||
{{plus}} He could have just meant he was waiting for one of his children to ascend.<br /> |
|||
{{minus}} In director/producer [http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/ Greg Beeman's blog], he states that Kaito "was worried it would seem foolish that Hiro learned so much [about swordsmanship] in just a few hours". This indicates that enhanced teaching is not likely to be his power.<br /> |
|||
{{plus}} Hiro's swordsmanship was skilled enough to defeat [[Takezo Kensei]], a mercenary warrior with professional sword training. Since Hiro did not carry a sword during his stay in Feudal Japan, he would not have had any additional opportunity to gain proficiency with one, and thus his only training would have been his brief session with his father.<br /> |
|||
{{note}} It is possible that Hiro trained with the sword outside of his screen time. Additionally, with the ability to stop time he could train frequently and for long periods of time without anyone noticing.<br /> |
|||
|- |
|- |
||
| Kaito Nakamura's power is that of a sword or weapon adept. || None. || {{plus}} Hiro's conversation with his father strongly mirrored Nathan's conversation with Linderman. Linderman answered Nathan's question ("What could you possibly know about healing?") by using his power on a plant. Kaito answered Hiro's question ("What can you possibly know... of killing?") by performing some maneuvers with a sword.<br /> |
| Kaito Nakamura's power is that of a sword or weapon adept. || None. || {{plus}} Hiro's conversation with his father strongly mirrored Nathan's conversation with Linderman. Linderman answered Nathan's question ("What could you possibly know about healing?") by using his power on a plant. Kaito answered Hiro's question ("What can you possibly know... of killing?") by performing some maneuvers with a sword.<br /> |
||
{{minus}} He taught the techniques to Hiro after learning of his will to save the world and his ability to control his powers, which implies that the sword techniques are taught from [[Evolved Human]] to Evolved Human over the generations. |
{{minus}} He taught the techniques to Hiro after learning of his will to save the world and his ability to control his powers, which implies that the sword techniques are taught from [[Evolved Human]] to Evolved Human over the generations.<br /> |
||
{{ |
{{plus}} When [[Adam Monroe]] Rushes Kaito before he kills him, Kaito instinctively reaches for a handle of some kind at his left hip. This implies that his powers used a sword as a medium.<br /> |
||
{{ |
{{plus}} When Adam Monroe saw that Ando had brought Kaito a sword, he rushed him as if Kaito would gain significant power from wielding a katana.<br /> |
||
:{{minus}} In an [http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10692 interview], Pokaski and Coleite were asked, "''I have a theory on Kaito Nakamura's power. When Nathan is speaking with Linderman, when Linderman heals the plant he states that he knows 'a few things' about healing. When Hiro asks his father what he knows about killing, he also responds 'a few things'. Am I on to something?''" Their response was "Nope."<br /> |
:{{minus}} In an [http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10692 interview], Pokaski and Coleite were asked, "''I have a theory on Kaito Nakamura's power. When Nathan is speaking with Linderman, when Linderman heals the plant he states that he knows 'a few things' about healing. When Hiro asks his father what he knows about killing, he also responds 'a few things'. Am I on to something?''" Their response was "Nope."<br /> |
||
{{minus}} It does not take a superhuman ability to be skilled with a sword.<br /> |
{{minus}} It does not take a superhuman ability to be skilled with a sword.<br /> |
||
| Line 51: | Line 44: | ||
| Kaito has a passive ability that allows him to intuitively know the strong and weak points of any human, evolved or not. || None. || {{plus}} In ''[[Landslide]]'', he answered Hiro's question of "What can you possibly know of killing?" with "A few things". This could imply that he has an ability which involves knowing exactly where and when to strike that doesn't need activating.<br /> |
| Kaito has a passive ability that allows him to intuitively know the strong and weak points of any human, evolved or not. || None. || {{plus}} In ''[[Landslide]]'', he answered Hiro's question of "What can you possibly know of killing?" with "A few things". This could imply that he has an ability which involves knowing exactly where and when to strike that doesn't need activating.<br /> |
||
:{{minus}} This could simply mean that he has killed before. And since he worked for the company, this is almost certain.<br /> |
:{{minus}} This could simply mean that he has killed before. And since he worked for the company, this is almost certain.<br /> |
||
:{{minus}} In an [http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10692 interview], Pokaski and Coleite were asked, "''I have a theory on Kaito Nakamura's power. When Nathan is speaking with Linderman, when Linderman heals the plant he states that he knows 'a few things' about healing. When Hiro asks his father what he knows about killing, he also responds 'a few things.' Am I on to something?''" |
:{{minus}} In an [http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10692 interview], Pokaski and Coleite were asked, "''I have a theory on Kaito Nakamura's power. When Nathan is speaking with Linderman, when Linderman heals the plant he states that he knows 'a few things' about healing. When Hiro asks his father what he knows about killing, he also responds 'a few things.' Am I on to something?''" Their response was "Nope."<br /> |
||
|- |
|- |
||
| Kaito's ability is [[adoptive muscle memory]]. || None. || {{plus}} Like [[Monica]], Kaito shows amazing martial arts skills.<br /> |
| Kaito's ability is [[adoptive muscle memory]]. || None. || {{plus}} Like [[Monica]], Kaito shows amazing martial arts skills.<br /> |
||
| Line 86: | Line 79: | ||
| Kaito is rich and powerful because of his ability to see the variables of any situation and predict the outcome. || In a Volume 2 DVD deleted scene, Kaito shows his ability by looking at the newspaper. Plus, he tells Ando that his ability is the reason for Yamagato Industries success. || {{note}} Arthur may have took his ability to gain his success too.<br /> |
| Kaito is rich and powerful because of his ability to see the variables of any situation and predict the outcome. || In a Volume 2 DVD deleted scene, Kaito shows his ability by looking at the newspaper. Plus, he tells Ando that his ability is the reason for Yamagato Industries success. || {{note}} Arthur may have took his ability to gain his success too.<br /> |
||
|- |
|- |
||
| Kaito's ability is that he doesn't flinch. Similar to The Blob's power in the X-Men. A force keeps him firmly in position so he doesn't react physically to blows. || When Angela slapped him he did not react despite the fact that it sounded like a pretty hard hit. || {{plus}} He |
| Kaito's ability is that he doesn't flinch. Similar to The Blob's power in the X-Men. A force keeps him firmly in position so he doesn't react physically to blows. || When Angela slapped him he did not react despite the fact that it sounded like a pretty hard hit. || {{plus}} He could control whether he activates his power or not. He did not use it to save himself from Adam Monroe as Hiro had effectively sealed his fate by going back in time and telling him he would die.<br /> |
||
{{minus}} Adam wouldn't have been able to push him off the building if this was the case. |
{{minus}} Adam wouldn't have been able to push him off the building if this was the case.<br /> |
||
{{plus}} Hiro had told him that he would die so there wasn't anything he could do to stop it. He said himself he was doomed. |
{{plus}} Hiro had told him that he would die so there wasn't anything he could do to stop it. He said himself he was doomed.<br /> |
||
|- |
|- |
||
| Kaito has the ability to read minds/emotions but not to the extent of [[Matt]] or [[Maury]]. || None. || {{plus}} Kaito seems to be able to read people very well and always know whats going on.<br /> |
| Kaito has the ability to read minds/emotions but not to the extent of [[Matt]] or [[Maury]]. || None. || {{plus}} Kaito seems to be able to read people very well and always know whats going on.<br /> |
||
| Line 96: | Line 89: | ||
| Kaito's ability is scrying, the ability to see anywhere into the past, future or present. || None. || {{plus}} If a parent's power is natural, their child's power will often be related to their own. Kaito's would be to see into any place in time and space, and Hiro's would be to go to any place in time and space.<br /> |
| Kaito's ability is scrying, the ability to see anywhere into the past, future or present. || None. || {{plus}} If a parent's power is natural, their child's power will often be related to their own. Kaito's would be to see into any place in time and space, and Hiro's would be to go to any place in time and space.<br /> |
||
:{{minus}} Hiro's ability isn't to see the past or the future; it's to manipulate time and space. Him going places and times is an application of his ability, an effect of it, in Kaito's case, that would be the purpose of the ability.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Hiro's ability isn't to see the past or the future; it's to manipulate time and space. Him going places and times is an application of his ability, an effect of it, in Kaito's case, that would be the purpose of the ability.<br /> |
||
:{{note}} Occassionally, the application of the power matters more than the actual power in and of itself. |
:{{note}} Occassionally, the application of the power matters more than the actual power in and of itself.<br /> |
||
{{plus}} Others have demonstrated abilities that are synonymous with mystical powers, such as Ida May Walker.<br /> |
{{plus}} Others have demonstrated abilities that are synonymous with mystical powers, such as Ida May Walker.<br /> |
||
{{plus}} In a deleted scene, he had told Ando that his ability was the reason for the success of Yamagato Industries; scrying would allow him to see events before they happened, and plan very far ahead.<br /> |
|||
:{{minus}} That comment was about a probability related ability in the same deleted scene.<br /> |
|||
:{{minus}} Deleted scenes are not canon.<br /> |
|||
{{plus}} He would not have entrusted half of the formula to Hiro, unless he had known that he would obtain a specific power.<br /> |
{{plus}} He would not have entrusted half of the formula to Hiro, unless he had known that he would obtain a specific power.<br /> |
||
:{{minus}} Who else would he entrust the formula to? Hiro is the one with the better odds to do something to protect the formula.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Who else would he entrust the formula to? Hiro is the one with the better odds to do something to protect the formula.<br /> |
||
{{plus}} When Hiro opened the safe, he had a pre-recorded message that seemed very relevant to a time shortly after the first message was delivered.<br /> |
{{plus}} When Hiro opened the safe, he had a pre-recorded message that seemed very relevant to a time shortly after the first message was delivered.<br /> |
||
:{{minus}} Kaito knows his son, it's reasonable to think he left another message knowing that the previous one would only make Hiro do exactly what he was told not to do.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Kaito knows his son, it's reasonable to think he left another message knowing that the previous one would only make Hiro do exactly what he was told not to do.<br /> |
||
{{plus}} In [[Landslide]] when Hiro asked if Kaito had returned to Japan, he said that he didn't in order to watch Hiro's progress, although no suspicious agents nor Kaito himself had been seen during major events. |
{{plus}} In [[Landslide]] when Hiro asked if Kaito had returned to Japan, he said that he didn't in order to watch Hiro's progress, although no suspicious agents nor Kaito himself had been seen during major events.<br /> |
||
:{{minus}} They don't need to be shown to be there, the audience wasn't shown Hiro coming from the future to warn Ando about the fake stabbing until the time of the actual stabbing.<br /> |
|||
|- |
|- |
||
| Kaito Nakamura didn't have an ability to start with. || None. || {{plus}} Ishi Nakamura could be the one Hiro inherited his ability from.<br /> |
| Kaito Nakamura didn't have an ability to start with. || None. || {{plus}} Ishi Nakamura could be the one Hiro inherited his ability from.<br /> |
||
Revision as of 15:08, 11 January 2009
|
The following fan theories are about Kaito Nakamura.
For help on adding theories, see the help section.
Theories
| Theory | Citations | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Kaito didn't have an ability at the end of his life because Arthur Petrelli stole it. | We have never conclusively seen Kaito demonstrate an ability. Arthur has the ability to absorb powers from others. | + Having a character who most likely has an ability die without demonstrating it is unusual for Heroes. + This could possibly explain where Arthur got telepathy. |
| Kaito is still alive and has empathic mimicry. | None. | - How would anyone have thought he was dead unless they found a body? If they found Kaito's body, he should be dead. |
| Mr. Nakamura is an evolved human. | None. | + Kaito tells Hiro that he has waited a long time for a Nakamura to ascend and that he has proven himself worthy of his legacy and his power. When Hiro asks his father about his own power, his father replies, saying that he knows, but for a time, he did not believe Hiro had the strength to wield his gift. Kaito continues, saying that years ago, he had allies, others with power and that they fought to save the world. (Landslide) + Kaito is affiliated with the Company, which is also affiliated with Linderman. He may be one of Linderman's super-powered associates from the past.
|
| Kaito Nakamura's power is that of a sword or weapon adept. | None. | + Hiro's conversation with his father strongly mirrored Nathan's conversation with Linderman. Linderman answered Nathan's question ("What could you possibly know about healing?") by using his power on a plant. Kaito answered Hiro's question ("What can you possibly know... of killing?") by performing some maneuvers with a sword. - He taught the techniques to Hiro after learning of his will to save the world and his ability to control his powers, which implies that the sword techniques are taught from Evolved Human to Evolved Human over the generations.
- It does not take a superhuman ability to be skilled with a sword. |
| The "legacy" which Kaito wanted to pass on to Hiro was actually originally meant for Hiro specifically, and was given to the Nakamura family by Yaeko. | None. | + Yaeko implied that she would pass down the story of Takezo Kensei as Hiro wished it to be. - In a video Kaito left to Hiro, Kaito states that Hiro's destiny was to protect the formula. |
| Kaito has the ability to fill people with fear or manipulate fear. | None. | + The bikers were scared away by Kaito. (Heroism is Found in the Heart, Part 2)
- They didn't seem to even notice Kaito's presence, they're looking directly at Ando. This would seem to support the fact that there was something else (Kaito's power) influencing them.
- Hiro did not appear to be afraid of his father when Mr. Nakamura was trying to get him to return to Japan.
|
| Kaito has some sort of shapeshifting or illusion power. | None. | + The Kaito Nakamura seen in 1977 looked nothing like the present version. This was so far a difference than it just being casting limitations, as it shouldn't be hard to find somebody who resembles a young George Takei. - The difference between the two actors was minor. It probably was not deliberate. |
| Kaito has a passive ability that allows him to intuitively know the strong and weak points of any human, evolved or not. | None. | + In Landslide, he answered Hiro's question of "What can you possibly know of killing?" with "A few things". This could imply that he has an ability which involves knowing exactly where and when to strike that doesn't need activating.
|
| Kaito's ability is adoptive muscle memory. | None. | + Like Monica, Kaito shows amazing martial arts skills.
- Mohinder notes that Monica is first muscle mimic the Company has studied. Kaito is one of the Company founders. |
| Kaito's ability is replication. | None. | • Kaito could have used his powers to quickly create a clone just as he was pushed off the roof, with Adam killing the clone and the real Kaito landing on a windowsill or ledge on the Deveaux Building.
- If it was replication, Angela would have known. Instead, she refers to him being dead. (It's Coming) |
| Kaito's ability is clairvoyance. | None. | + Kaito found Hiro in an unlikely place in an enormous city. (The Fix) + Kaito found Hiro again in Landslide.
|
| Kaito's ability is rapid cell regeneration. | None. | + This could allow him to survive being pushed off the roof by Adam. - If he could regenerate, he probably would have gotten up after the fall and let Ando know he was all right. Adam would also have known that to kill Kaito, he needed to put something into his brain, not just throw him off the roof. |
| Kaito's ability is to see the variables of any situation and predict the outcome. | In a Volume 2 DVD deleted scene, Kaito shows his ability by looking at the newspaper. Plus, he tells Ando that his ability is the reason for Yamagato Industries' success. | + The ability was shown in a deleted scene. - Since it was only explained in a deleted scene, the writers can change the ability Kaito had.
|
| Kaito used his ability of probability computations to help the Company plan the destruction of New York City. | In the deleted scene from Four Months Later, Kaito's ability is shown to be probability computation. | + The Company may have needed someone with that ability in order to succeed with their plan. - He later trains Hiro to combat Sylar, the result of which being that Sylar could no longer push Peter any further, allowing Peter to hold off his explosive powers until Nathan arrived. Without Kaito, Hiro could not have saved New York. |
| Kaito is rich and powerful because of his ability to see the variables of any situation and predict the outcome. | In a Volume 2 DVD deleted scene, Kaito shows his ability by looking at the newspaper. Plus, he tells Ando that his ability is the reason for Yamagato Industries success. | • Arthur may have took his ability to gain his success too. |
| Kaito's ability is that he doesn't flinch. Similar to The Blob's power in the X-Men. A force keeps him firmly in position so he doesn't react physically to blows. | When Angela slapped him he did not react despite the fact that it sounded like a pretty hard hit. | + He could control whether he activates his power or not. He did not use it to save himself from Adam Monroe as Hiro had effectively sealed his fate by going back in time and telling him he would die. - Adam wouldn't have been able to push him off the building if this was the case. |
| Kaito has the ability to read minds/emotions but not to the extent of Matt or Maury. | None. | + Kaito seems to be able to read people very well and always know whats going on. - This could be because he is very experienced with dealing with tricky people. |
| Kaito's ability is scrying, the ability to see anywhere into the past, future or present. | None. | + If a parent's power is natural, their child's power will often be related to their own. Kaito's would be to see into any place in time and space, and Hiro's would be to go to any place in time and space.
+ Others have demonstrated abilities that are synonymous with mystical powers, such as Ida May Walker.
+ He would not have entrusted half of the formula to Hiro, unless he had known that he would obtain a specific power.
+ When Hiro opened the safe, he had a pre-recorded message that seemed very relevant to a time shortly after the first message was delivered.
+ In Landslide when Hiro asked if Kaito had returned to Japan, he said that he didn't in order to watch Hiro's progress, although no suspicious agents nor Kaito himself had been seen during major events.
|
| Kaito Nakamura didn't have an ability to start with. | None. | + Ishi Nakamura could be the one Hiro inherited his ability from. - It is heavily implied all Company founders had abilities. |
| |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| See Also: 9 • Red • Time travel • Kaito Nakamura | |||||||||