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* Just moved this comment here from the Episode talk page for The Art of Deception so it could be discussed. The comment had been removed from there, as was appropriate. Regarding the comment itself, I think Parkman will quickly go inside Sylar's head to again to get Peter out, so it probably won't be a year, but it could be a long time. As a consequence, I think it's conceivable that when they wake up, we might find out that Peter is stuck in Sylar's body and vice versa... that could be why Sylar goes to save Emma... just my take on a possible plot twist. :)--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 00:37, 26 January 2010 (EST)
* Just moved this comment here from the Episode talk page for The Art of Deception so it could be discussed. The comment had been removed from there, as was appropriate. Regarding the comment itself, I think Parkman will quickly go inside Sylar's head to again to get Peter out, so it probably won't be a year, but it could be a long time. As a consequence, I think it's conceivable that when they wake up, we might find out that Peter is stuck in Sylar's body and vice versa... that could be why Sylar goes to save Emma... just my take on a possible plot twist. :)--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 00:37, 26 January 2010 (EST)
** I am not too sure of that, in screencaps released by NBC it shown Peter and Sylar working together to break down a brick wall (not the one with sylar behind it in Matt's house.) with sledge Hammers.My guess is that represents the psychic barriers which Matt put in that is keeping Sylar and Peter in the dream.So by going by that I think its safe to assume that they have to work together to break out and get themselves free and that Matt's not coming to the rescue.But again maybe that is just me [[User:Tbora|Tbora]] 07:07, 26 January 2010 (EST)
** I am not too sure of that, in screencaps released by NBC it shown Peter and Sylar working together to break down a brick wall (not the one with sylar behind it in Matt's house.) with sledge Hammers.My guess is that represents the psychic barriers which Matt put in that is keeping Sylar and Peter in the dream.So by going by that I think its safe to assume that they have to work together to break out and get themselves free and that Matt's not coming to the rescue.But again maybe that is just me [[User:Tbora|Tbora]] 07:07, 26 January 2010 (EST)
**I like MiamiVolts idea about the body-switching. However, given those screencaps and the developments in Sylar's character arc lately, it seems likely that Sylar may have actually done the thing he's been trying to do ever since he went to see Virginia Gray the night she died... that is, find redemption. Fitting, given the title of the volume... Anyway, I think it would be interesting for them to have months/years trapped together inside his (Sylar's) mind to work out all their issues and get that whole you-murdered-my-brother thing out of the way. Whatever they do, I think we can look forward to some incredible performances from both Quinto and Ventimiglia.--[[User:Clairesxtwin48|Clairesxtwin48]] 20:10, 26 January 2010 (EST)


== The Fight We've Been Waiting For? ==
== The Fight We've Been Waiting For? ==

Revision as of 01:10, 27 January 2010

Where did the name come from? AltesUTC CH

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Masi Oka also doesn't star in this one, mabye he is going to die in Fail/Pass........ -- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 07:09, 17 January 2010 (EST)

Arkush

I thought Allan Arkush was let go by NBC after season 3, as said on his page; was he brought back? --mc_hammark 21:10, 23 January 2010 (EST)

  • Yes. Not permanently, though. He was brought back to direct The Wall. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:33, 23 January 2010 (EST)
    • So just a guest director, kinda like Santiago Cabrera was a guest star in S4. --mc_hammark 21:48, 23 January 2010 (EST)

Preview

Personally I thought the strangest/coolest part (of The Art of Deception) was in the preview for this episode where we are informed that rate of time in Sylar's Mindscape (for lack of a better word) is 1 year for every hour. This leads for some real character development on both Sylar's and Peter's part. Think about it. Peter would not be able to forgive Sylar in a few short hours, as that is unrealistic and poor writing in general. But them spending YEARS together gives Peter the chance to move on and forgive him, allowing for progression as a character. But that is just me, your thoughts people? Tbora 22:15, 25 January 2010 (EST)

  • Just moved this comment here from the Episode talk page for The Art of Deception so it could be discussed. The comment had been removed from there, as was appropriate. Regarding the comment itself, I think Parkman will quickly go inside Sylar's head to again to get Peter out, so it probably won't be a year, but it could be a long time. As a consequence, I think it's conceivable that when they wake up, we might find out that Peter is stuck in Sylar's body and vice versa... that could be why Sylar goes to save Emma... just my take on a possible plot twist. :)--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:37, 26 January 2010 (EST)
    • I am not too sure of that, in screencaps released by NBC it shown Peter and Sylar working together to break down a brick wall (not the one with sylar behind it in Matt's house.) with sledge Hammers.My guess is that represents the psychic barriers which Matt put in that is keeping Sylar and Peter in the dream.So by going by that I think its safe to assume that they have to work together to break out and get themselves free and that Matt's not coming to the rescue.But again maybe that is just me Tbora 07:07, 26 January 2010 (EST)
    • I like MiamiVolts idea about the body-switching. However, given those screencaps and the developments in Sylar's character arc lately, it seems likely that Sylar may have actually done the thing he's been trying to do ever since he went to see Virginia Gray the night she died... that is, find redemption. Fitting, given the title of the volume... Anyway, I think it would be interesting for them to have months/years trapped together inside his (Sylar's) mind to work out all their issues and get that whole you-murdered-my-brother thing out of the way. Whatever they do, I think we can look forward to some incredible performances from both Quinto and Ventimiglia.--Clairesxtwin48 20:10, 26 January 2010 (EST)

The Fight We've Been Waiting For?

Usually the people from Behind the Eclipse would admit that later in the season Peter and Sylar FINALLY face off...and it will be amazing...but it will not be what we expect....etc, etc, etc. I for one am kinda sick of it. I want my Sylar VS Peter fight to the bitter end. How perfect would this opportunity be? All alone in the big world. And Peter is using telepathy (meaning, he can basically make himself all-powerful). Kinda cliche since it was done with the Matrix, but I don't care.--Halfxwitted 13:51, 26 January 2010 (EST)

  • Totally agree, there needs to be an real fight to the bitter end.-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 13:54, 26 January 2010 (EST)