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{{plus}} [[Sylar]] can absorb powers through empathy, but with an emotional effort. Maybe Peter's problem is that his empathy is gone or weakened.<br /> |
{{plus}} [[Sylar]] can absorb powers through empathy, but with an emotional effort. Maybe Peter's problem is that his empathy is gone or weakened.<br /> |
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{{plus}} It may be the case that Peter in Season 1 required touch in his very early stages. He never picked up an ability without touch until at least Matt Parkman's (he touched Angela, Nathan, and Claire). Although he learns to access them remotely and he learns to access several at once, this is after much training, effort, and [[adrenaline]].<br /> |
{{plus}} It may be the case that Peter in Season 1 required touch in his very early stages. He never picked up an ability without touch until at least Matt Parkman's (he touched Angela, Nathan, and Claire). Although he learns to access them remotely and he learns to access several at once, this is after much training, effort, and [[adrenaline]].<br /> |
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:{{note}} Although Peter did have several occasions of physical contact with his family prior to gaining their abilities, it was not implied to be |
:{{note}} Although Peter did have several occasions of physical contact with his family prior to gaining their abilities, it was not implied to be necessary for copying powers.<br /> |
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::{{note}} Much emphasis is placed on Peter's hand-to-hand contact with [[Nathan]] in the first episode, just before he flies.<br /> |
::{{note}} Much emphasis is placed on Peter's hand-to-hand contact with [[Nathan]] in the first episode, just before he flies.<br /> |
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:::{{note}} Peter had little to no physical contact with [[Isaac]] - especially skin-on-skin contact - and yet was able to [[precognition|draw the future]] only hours after being exposed to the power. (''[[Episode:Don't Look Back|Don't Look Back]]'')<br /> |
:::{{note}} Peter had little to no physical contact with [[Isaac]] - especially skin-on-skin contact - and yet was able to [[precognition|draw the future]] only hours after being exposed to the power. (''[[Episode:Don't Look Back|Don't Look Back]]'')<br /> |
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:::{{note}} Nathan was confirmed to be just a more experienced flier.<br /> |
:::{{note}} Nathan was confirmed to be just a more experienced flier.<br /> |
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::{{note}} Synthetic abilities are so far indistinguishable from natural ones; they can be blocked by the Haitian, removed by an eclipse, and absorbed just as well as normal ones.<br /> |
::{{note}} Synthetic abilities are so far indistinguishable from natural ones; they can be blocked by the Haitian, removed by an eclipse, and absorbed just as well as normal ones.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} The powers are reflective of their personalities, according to Tim Kring. |
:{{minus}} The powers are reflective of their personalities, according to Tim Kring. Peter has become jaded after all he's been through, and now has a hard time connecting to people. Thus he did not manifest empathic mimicry.<br /> |
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| Peter gained his new ability because his DNA changed from when his [[empathic mimicry|his old power]] manifested. || Mohinder said that when Peter copied abilities it caused a change is his DNA; the formula gives abilities based on the DNA of the person at the time of the injection. || {{plus}} This completely explains why his old ability vanished.<br /> |
| Peter gained his new ability because his DNA changed from when his [[empathic mimicry|his old power]] manifested. || Mohinder said that when Peter copied abilities it caused a change is his DNA; the formula gives abilities based on the DNA of the person at the time of the injection. || {{plus}} This completely explains why his old ability vanished.<br /> |
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| [[Peter]] immediately has extreme control and power over his [[Ability replication|replicated]] abilities. || Peter was able to freeze a very large part of the [[Flight 195|plane]]. || {{plus}} Peter was able to carry Matt whilst flying, something that Nathan had found difficult.<br /> |
| [[Peter]] immediately has extreme control and power over his [[Ability replication|replicated]] abilities. || Peter was able to freeze a very large part of the [[Flight 195|plane]]. || {{plus}} Peter was able to carry Matt whilst flying, something that Nathan had found difficult.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Peter was able to carry Claude whilst flying with [[empathic mimicry]].<br /> |
:{{minus}} Peter was able to carry Claude whilst flying with [[empathic mimicry]].<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Flight was peter's first power |
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{{plus}} Peter was able to use telepathic commands on the two guards during "Exposed" when it took Matt a long time to learn.<br /> |
{{plus}} Peter was able to use telepathic commands on the two guards during "Exposed" when it took Matt a long time to learn.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Peter had already learned how to do this. (''[[Powerless]]'')<br /> |
:{{minus}} Peter had already learned how to do this. (''[[Powerless]]'')<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Peter didn't know Tracy had freezing; maybe his control relies on him knowing which ability he replicates. He had no trouble with telepathy and flight.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Peter didn't know Tracy had freezing; maybe his control relies on him knowing which ability he replicates. He had no trouble with telepathy and flight.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Peter was already familiar with telepathy and flight.<br /> |
::{{minus}} Peter was already familiar with telepathy and flight.<br /> |
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{{plus}} In [[Jump, Push, Fall]], Peter began to use [[Edgar]]'s Power within seconds of touching him, and was able to out maneuver him in battle<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Peter has used that ability before as well.<br /> |
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| [[Peter]] absorbed someone else's ability after absorbing [[Nathan]]'s ability in [[Dual]] and before absorbing [[Mohinder]]'s ability in ''[[Episode:A Clear and Present Danger|A Clear and Present Danger]]''. || None. || {{plus}} [[Peter]] knew to touch [[Mohinder]] on the plane.<br /> |
| [[Peter]] absorbed someone else's ability after absorbing [[Nathan]]'s ability in [[Dual]] and before absorbing [[Mohinder]]'s ability in ''[[Episode:A Clear and Present Danger|A Clear and Present Danger]]''. || None. || {{plus}} [[Peter]] knew to touch [[Mohinder]] on the plane.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Peter obviously didn't have [[regeneration]].<br /> |
{{minus}} Peter obviously didn't have [[regeneration]].<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Regeneration does not get rid of blood spots on clothing, so it is difficult to tell.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Regeneration does not get rid of blood spots on clothing, so it is difficult to tell.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} When Sylar attempted to shape shift into [[the President]], he briefly morphed into Peter and had bleeding wounds on his face.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} At James Martin's cremation Peter still had wounds on his face.<br /> |
::{{minus}} At James Martin's cremation Peter still had wounds on his face.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Peter is limping when Claire first enters the room where he fought Sylar, but by the next scene his limp is gone.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Peter is limping when Claire first enters the room where he fought Sylar, but by the next scene his limp is gone.<br /> |
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:{{note}} At [[James Martin]]'s cremation Peter's face was shown with no blood, and there were some wounds on it.<br /> |
:{{note}} At [[James Martin]]'s cremation Peter's face was shown with no blood, and there were some wounds on it.<br /> |
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{{note}} There aren't many passive abilities, especially for Peter to encounter.<br /> |
{{note}} There aren't many passive abilities, especially for Peter to encounter.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Peter took [[Emma Coolidge |
{{minus}} Peter took [[Emma Coolidge]]'s power to see sound, which is passive.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Some aspects of it aren't though, like when she slashed her wall.<br /> |
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| When touching Sylar, [[Peter]] can only absorb abilities that Sylar took using the empathic side of his ability. || None. || {{plus}} Telekinesis was the only ability that the Company could detect in Sylar and the only ability he didn't lose to the Shanti Virus. The latter was because he used empathy and brain removal to get telekinesis, which shows that abilities taken through empathy are different than abilities taken through brain removal.<br /> |
| When touching Sylar, [[Peter]] can only absorb abilities that Sylar took using the empathic side of his ability. || None. || {{plus}} Telekinesis was the only ability that the Company could detect in Sylar and the only ability he didn't lose to the Shanti Virus. The latter was because he used empathy and brain removal to get telekinesis, which shows that abilities taken through empathy are different than abilities taken through brain removal.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Doesn't he always possess two powers no matter whose he takes? If he copies super speed, he still has [[ability replication]] and has [[super speed]]. Because if he lost ability replication in process he would never be able to replicate another ability again?<br /> |
:{{note}} Doesn't he always possess two powers no matter whose he takes? If he copies super speed, he still has [[ability replication]] and has [[super speed]]. Because if he lost ability replication in process he would never be able to replicate another ability again?<br /> |
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{{note}} This would bring back Peter's relative power back to its original state as seen in the first season but also keep him weaker than when he had [[empathic mimicry]] because he would need to touch an evolved human to gain their ability and would have to pick and choose select few abilities to keep.<br /> |
{{note}} This would bring back Peter's relative power back to its original state as seen in the first season but also keep him weaker than when he had [[empathic mimicry]] because he would need to touch an evolved human to gain their ability and would have to pick and choose select few abilities to keep.<br /> |
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{{note}} Once he had intuitive aptitude he could just use his empathy to get an ability the same way Sylar did when he connected with Elle.<br /> |
{{note}} Once he had intuitive aptitude, he could just use his empathy to get an ability the same way Sylar did when he connected with Elle.<br /> |
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| Peter's ability replication is only temporary; were Ando to supercharge him enough, his empathic mimicry would be restored. | None. | + Peter's ability has been an enduring part of his character; to replace it with a lesser ability that is more unlike his personality seems to be an unwise plotting choice by the writers. As such, they are going to restore his original abilities.
• The writers stated themselves that they are trying to limit Peter's powers. |
| Peter's original powers could return if he copies Sylar's ability. | None. | + Sylar was able to acquire abilities empathically. ("It's Coming")
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| Peter will emulate his old abilities the same way that Matt Parkman emulated precognition. | None. | + Matt Parkman's emulation of an ability that's not his own, and wasn't explicitly granted to him, suggests this may be possible. - According to a Behind the Eclipse, Matt's precognition is a result of him being able to access the state of conciousness that precog's can enter due to Usutu's spirit walk opening his mind to that state combined with him being a telepath. |
| Ability replication is actually Peter's old ability, and will eventually evolve into empathic mimicry after enough time, similar to how Matt gained the ability to insert thoughts in other people's head. | None. | + Peter developed. He is now unable to feel empathy like in previous seasons. Instead he is leery of other people and eventually hates them (Nathan). Someone can't feel hate as well as empathy.
• If ability replication is indeed part of empathic mimicry Peter should be able to gain some abilities permanently (e.g. Claire's). Claire has never betrayed him so that it may be that Peter can feel empathy for her.
+ Sylar can absorb powers through empathy, but with an emotional effort. Maybe Peter's problem is that his empathy is gone or weakened.
+ Tracy's freezing was shown to move from a touch-based ability to a radial ability. Similarly, ability replication may acquire the ability to work at a distance, like empathic mimicry. |
| Ability replication is just another use of power absorption. Peter will find out he can steal powers from others, and this is the only way to cumulate them, like Arthur did. | None. | + Arthur killed Adam, while this one could be a pretty useful ally, as Angela dreamed it. Moreover, he was using Maury; he probably would have used Adam too if he could. ("Dying of the Light") + Peter wouldn't steal the good guys, and would be forced to find some villains for that. In that way, he would be limited, as writers wants, but without leaving him as weak as he is right now. |
| Peter was granted this ability instead of his original one due to damage done to his genes when Arthur stole his ability. | None. | + The two abilities are similar. It would not be unfeasible for the ability to have been the product of some slight genetic change that may have occurred when Arthur took away Peter's empathic mimicry.
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| Peter gained his new ability because his DNA changed from when his his old power manifested. | Mohinder said that when Peter copied abilities it caused a change is his DNA; the formula gives abilities based on the DNA of the person at the time of the injection. | + This completely explains why his old ability vanished. + Peter gained the new ability by injecting himself with a genetic modification formula. |
| Peter would regain his original ability if he replicated Claire's ability. | None. | + It's possible that Peter didn't get his original ability when he injected himself with the formula was because Arthur's ability damaged his DNA when he stole it. Claire's power could heal that damage.
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| Peter immediately has extreme control and power over his replicated abilities. | Peter was able to freeze a very large part of the plane. | + Peter was able to carry Matt whilst flying, something that Nathan had found difficult.
+ Peter was able to use telepathic commands on the two guards during "Exposed" when it took Matt a long time to learn.
- Peter froze the plane's side accidentally, which indicates a low-level of control of that ability.
+ In Jump, Push, Fall, Peter began to use Edgar's Power within seconds of touching him, and was able to out maneuver him in battle
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| Peter absorbed someone else's ability after absorbing Nathan's ability in Dual and before absorbing Mohinder's ability in A Clear and Present Danger. | None. | + Peter knew to touch Mohinder on the plane. + Peter asked Nathan what was the last ability he saw him perform, which hints at him knowing he can only hold one at a time.
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| Peter will gain mastery over his ability and be able to replicate more than one ability at once, through empathy. | None. | + Being able to have more than one ability is Peter's niche. It's his "thing". It's been his whole character since Season 1. + Assuming that natural and synthetic abilities share a common source; unique genetic markers, it is unlikely that the nature of the ability would change within the same person. Mohinder stated that the manifestation of abilities can trigger with the release of adrenaline during times of emotional stress. It is therefore possible that Peter and Hiro's current abilities are limited due to mental blocks brought on by mental and emotional trauma. It would be reasonable to assume that given the right stressful circumstances, both Hiro and Peter could display some uncontrolled aspects of their previous powers. This would allow the writers to allow characters to use their original powers in limited times during specific plot points, without making them too powerful in most cases and retain their original powers. |
| Peter will be able to take more than one ability at a time if he comes into contact with baby Matt. | None. | + Matt Jr restored part of Hiro's ability and he didn't even need the formula, it makes sense he could advance an already manifested ability to the next level. - Baby Matt can activate dormant ability cells as proven with Hiro in Cold Snap. Peter's powers are no longer dormant. As Baby Matt has yet to use his powers to enhance something already active, we do not know if he can aid Peter in this way. |
| Peter could mix two powers together and acquire a whole new power thanks to his ability. | None. | + If Peter were to touch two special people, and took their abilities at the same time, maybe his DNA would fuse, and give a mix of those two powers, for example, Micah's ability from D.L.'s and Niki'.
- Nothing indicates Peter can mix abilities.
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| Peter can only take abilities from people who don't know he is taking their ability or don't want him to take it. | None. | + In A Clear and Present Danger, Tracy and Mohinder were unconscious while their powers were taken. + In Trust and Blood and Exposed Peter tricked Nathan into letting him touch him.
- Nothing suggests such a limitation exists.
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| Peter can take only one power from Sylar or any other evolved human with multiple abilities, because Peter's ability cannot keep more than one power. | In An Invisible Thread Peter demonstrated only shapeshifting. | + Peter loses a previously absorbed ability when he takes a new one. + Ability replication is very different from empathic mimicry.
- In An Invisible Thread, when Noah asks if Peter took Sylar's power, Peter says yes and that he can stop him. He would not be so confident if he just had shapeshifting since Noah had not told him about the tranquilizer yet.
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| Peter has taken all of Sylar's abilities. | None. | + Having multiple abilities has been Peter's role in the show.
+ Sylar would have killed him and Nathan in seconds if Peter had only taken shapeshifting.
- Peter obviously didn't have regeneration.
+ There is no logical reason for Peter to choose shapeshifting instead of a different one of Sylar's powers.
• Now that Peter has discarded Sylar's abilities, there's no way to tell, unless he replicates them again or it is shown in a flashback. |
| Peter can only absorb abilities that must be actively used. | None. | + Peter has never acquired a passive ability, even when it could be beneficial.
+ It would make Peter's battle with Sylar more plausible; he could have copied his offensive powers, but not regeneration, which is why he seemed to be injured after the fight.
- Peter had blood but not apparent wounds on his cheeks, as though he had healed the wounds on his cheeks.
• There aren't many passive abilities, especially for Peter to encounter.
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| When touching Sylar, Peter can only absorb abilities that Sylar took using the empathic side of his ability. | None. | + Telekinesis was the only ability that the Company could detect in Sylar and the only ability he didn't lose to the Shanti Virus. The latter was because he used empathy and brain removal to get telekinesis, which shows that abilities taken through empathy are different than abilities taken through brain removal.
+ The only ability of Sylar's that Peter has demonstrated is shapeshifting, which Sylar took through empathy rather than ability theft.
- Peter had blood, but no apparent wounds, on his cheeks.
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| Peter replicates other people's abilities by rearranging his DNA to match theirs. | None. | + Abilities can be detected in the DNA. + This also explains why he loses previous abilities.
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| If Peter were to replicate Sylar's intuitive aptitude he would then learn how to make ability replication retain more than one ability. | None. | + Replicating intuitive aptitude would mean that Peter would technically have two abilities at once, and would presumably allow him to understand how his current ability works, supplement and improve it, or even rediscover his original ability.
• This would bring back Peter's relative power back to its original state as seen in the first season but also keep him weaker than when he had empathic mimicry because he would need to touch an evolved human to gain their ability and would have to pick and choose select few abilities to keep. |
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