Talk:Timeline:April 2007-December 2014

Page move

I believe this page *might* be moved to "Timeline:Post-March 2007" (or post-something or something better) with the following information:

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June 15, 2007

• The registration to Niki's Cadillac expires. (Don't Look Back)

2008

• Matt Neuenberg competes in a school talent show and is later convinced by Elle to join her. His memory is tested at the Company, and Matt is held in a cell. (The Man with Too Much Brains)

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Right now, with the 2007 info on the Possible futures page, and the 2008 info not, it's not very even-looking.--Tim Thomason 22:05, 21 January 2008 (EST)

• Could be. But if we have enough information about 2008 events down the road, then we can keep it all on one page. Let's let it play out and see where it goes, and we can always reevaluate. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:18, 21 January 2008 (EST)
  • I understand that. We should always reserve the right to change page layout in the future, but then what should we do about the June '07 info? I don't think we should leave it on the Possible futures page (since it's not a possible future). Should we scrap it, move it to a Timeline:June 2007 or Timeline:April-December 2007 page or what?--Tim Thomason 22:42, 21 January 2008 (EST)
    • I see what you're saying now. The registration is kind of a limbo date since it really kind of is a future date: the timeline of the episodes haven't gotten past March 20, 2007. However, it looks like the graphic novels (or at least the last two) are up to 2008. I would just as soon take the registration date off the timeline altogether because it's really insignificant. We can add it back after we find out where we're going with the new episodes. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:05, 22 January 2008 (EST)

I agree with them. It should be moved so it can include Heroes Evolutions stuff as well. --DECBOY23 08:42, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Them who? There are only two people who have posted on this page, and we both disagree. In either case, there is no evidence that what happens in the Evolutions content takes place post-March 2007. In fact, there are plenty of examples of timeline inconsistencies in Evolutions, where something is listed as having taken place on the day it's posted, but the timeline of the episodes contradicts this assertion. When something conflicts, we leave it off. We tend to leave "current" happenings from Evolutions off the timeline. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:57, 26 January 2008 (EST)

How can we say...

...that the events of Different and the Same, History of a Secret, and Pieces of Me happened in 2008? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 02:03, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

• We assume a continuous timeline unless the novels tell us otherwise. So unless there's evidence of a time-shift, we assume they're sequential.--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:05, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
  • That didn't answer my question, so I'll rephrase: How can we say that the events in those GNs dont happen in 2007? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 13:09, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
    • Cause they followed a novel confirmed to happen in 2008 (the banner displays 2008).--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:18, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

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You know what, we may have a major plot hole on our hands. In D&S, Noah is heading off with the Haitian to erase Piper's memory again. D&S, supposedly, happens in 2008. As of 2007, the Company is headed on a self destruct course and Noah in incarcerated. How is this penciling out? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

• It could be that something happens that puts the Haitian together with Noah again, we just don't know. However, considering that Bob and Noah went together to stop Claire from going public with the info., it isn't out of the question that something could change Bob's mind and put Noah back on the active list.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:40, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
  • But we know that evs appeared after Hana and Drucker were gone, which, according to the banner, happened in 2008. However, the most recent graphic novels happen in 2007, so, unless evs can bend time, he actually appeared in 2007. I guess the banner is wrong, then.--Referos 20:09, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
    • I strongly lean toward the banner being a mistake myself. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 20:26, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
      • Ditto. The only way to work around the timeline is to regard the 2008 references as mistakes. Pierre 08:26, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
        • We don't know that Evs only appeared after Hana and Drucker were gone; we only know that Evs started talking to us after Hana and Drucker were gone. There is a difference. In fact, Connie and Julien seem to have been already infiltrating the Company at that time. Also, there is evidence part of the timeline could be moved to 2009 due to Penny's age, but I'm waiting for the responses to Interview:Into the Wild before recommending any changes.--MiamiVolts (talk) 08:53, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

Updating

Okay, as of March 20 or so, 2007, Bob's "no longer with us." So, barring some sort of comic book resurrection which we should not assume, The Man with Too Much Brains occurs in 2007 or earlier (the "2008" is a mistake, or some sort of "Class of 2008" reference or something). As such, any dates based on that fact alone should be removed, and placed in the 2006/2007 timelines wherever appropriate (linear order seems best in this case).--Tim Thomason 02:27, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

• You're not considering the that the original future, Tim, was different from the one that exists now. The Man with Too Much Brains occurred in the 2008 that existed before Future Peter came back from the future and altered the timeline. Basically, in the timeline that no longer exists Bob didn't die became Claire came to Odessa to help Peter save her father. Thus, in the original timeline Sylar never got Claire's ability and he wasn't able to kill Bob. There's still the matter of whether the Company arc ended in the original timeline's 2009 as I believe it did, but that should be answered soon when we get back the interview questions from the Into the Wild graphic novels.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:45, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
  • So, these timeline happen in another timeline?
    • Perhaps. We're waiting for the writers to get back to us with their decision on that.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:53, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
      • Doesn't The Man with Too Much Brains take place before Hana's death ? And doesn't the whole Evs Dropper storyline take place after Hana's death ? Now since most of the main characters in E.D.'s storyline are now dead (Gael, Donna, Bianca, etc.) and since Bianca and Gael's deaths (While they were alive with Sabine at the end of the Novel arc.) happen at the beginning of the season, I think it's safe to assume that most of the E.D. storyline happen before Future!Peter comes back to shoot Nathan. Therefore, whatever changes are made to the future ... I personally doubt they'd effect anything related to Evs Dropper. But that's just me. --LeoChris 21:49, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
        • Yes and no. The writers said that the Evs Dropper arc is supposed to end up about the time of the Season 3 premiere, but they got it a little bit off. For instance, in the Into the Wild novels, there's both Bob talking to Gael and Bridget's case being changed (because of her death???). Also, The Man with Too Much Brains had a 2008 banner but now we have to assume that was in 2007.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:25, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
          • The Bailey case could simply be Bridget being cleared to become food for Sylar, not her being dead as they speak ... or it could be something else all together ... Besides the 2007 banner, is there anything else that affects the (apparently) logical (for the lack of a better term) timeline ? --LeoChris 20:05, 6 October 2008 (EDT)

Events of Red eye

I put the events of Red Eye, Part 2, Idon'tknow if I do it wrong. Henryp 15:50, 1 January 2009

iStory events

Should iStory events be listed into these Timeline articles? If so, then "The Private" events should probably be in both June 2007 and Summer 2006, while "The Agent" should be in June 2007. I'm not sure about "Friend or Foe" since I didn't follow them, but I presume they'll be during March 2007. --Radicell 20:21, 14 February 2009 (EST)

DATE?

Where was proof of the date? I was looking and looking and couldn't figure out where anyone said/showed that there was an actual date? --Parkmansgirl 15:41, 2 March 2009 (EST)

• An editor "tried [his/her] best to correspond info from latest episode into dates based on clues". Rather speculative. I think it should be reverted. - Josh (talk/contribs) 16:35, 2 March 2009 (EST)
  • So there hasn't been any actual proof in canon show or graphic novel wise? --Parkmansgirl 20:57, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Okay, here's how I figured out the dates. In A Clear and Present Danger, Nathan says he's been senator for three months. He started being senator on March 20, 2007, so three months after is June 20, 2007. So the events of ACAPD, I concluded, take place on that date. Night falls at the end of ACAPD, so Trust and Blood, an immediate continuation of ACAPD 's events, takes place on June 21, 2007. The episodes Building 26 and Cold Wars are directly continued, so they take place on the same day/night. Since Daphne was brought into Building 26 'two days ago' according to Cold Wars 's screentext, Cold Wars and Building 26 therefore takes place two days after June 21, alas, June 23. Since Alex Woolsly met Claire in Building 26, his experiences at the beach must have occurred before meeting Claire, thus, "Prior to June 23" for The Swimmer. Since Claire received Rebel's text in Trust and Blood, and the introduction for Libertad says that Claire was "not the first" to receive these messages, the events of Libertad must be before those of Trust and Blood, alas, "Prior to June 21".

Now, Cold Wars takes place on June 23. A week before that (ie. June 16), Noah visits Danko's apartment. Three weeks before Cold Wars (ie. June 2), Danko and Noah argue. Four weeks before Cold Wars (ie. May 26), Noah and Nathan meet. Five weeks before Cold Wars (ie. May 19), Noah and Angela meet. --Radicell 04:47, 3 March 2009 (EST)

• And, Cold Wars takes place at night, so Exposed takes place the next day, June 24. --Radicell 08:57, 4 March 2009 (EST)
• When you say you've been something for three months, it usually doesn't mean it's been exactly three months since you became it. Besides, Nathan probably wasn't sworn in the day he was shot. - Josh (talk/contribs) 11:32, 4 March 2009 (EST)
  • Rewatching A Clear and Present Danger, I noticed he says he's been a senator less than three months. - Josh (talk/contribs) 21:49, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
    • I'd much rather have confirmation of the date. I don't want to base all these dates off one very ambiguous time reference. If Nathan said, "Today marks three months that I've been in office," well that's one thing. But he said he's been senator for less than three months, so we really know it's at the very latest June 2007...but we don't know the date. Even if he said he was the senator for three months, I still wouldn't feel comfortable with pinning an exact date on that. I think all the current dates need to be removed until we have confirmation. cf. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:00, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
• Alright, I see everyone's point. However, since we weren't sure about when Nathan became senator in the first place (since it could have been any day AFTER March 20, and doesn't have to be in March at all), we wouldn't even have an idea of what month the events of Volume 4 takes place in. This means that we'll probably have to list everything under one big sub-category. --Radicell 05:01, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
• I've removed the speculative date titles. It all looks very clumped now, although that's better than speculating, I suppose. I've scanned through all the volume 4 episodes, looking for any clue of a date (like on a computer screen or TV screen, etc.) but got no luck. I've even started scanning through some of the Volume 3 episodes, to see when exactly they took place. About the "heroes timeline inconsistencies" thing on the Community Portal, are we going to send those to the writers and ask them to sort it out? --Radicell 07:22, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Newspaper

Did anybody check to see if the newspaper Sylar is holding in the "Redemption" promo (14 weeks later) has a date? --Crazyaspie 04:36, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

I checked it. Unfortunately there's no data at all. I also want to badly know the exact dates... but, helas! --Janrodrigo 09:09, 29 April 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, I don't think we'll ever get a definitive date for Volume 4 events. =/ --Radicell 09:15, 29 April 2009 (EDT)

I hope we will some day :) By the way, did you try to read the newspaper? If you carefully read it, you'll see that all the columns are the exact copies of each other, only some are standing higher some lower... So it's very clear that the newspaper is fake! :) --Janrodrigo 09:23, 29 April 2009 (EDT)

• Wasn't it supposed to jump ahead six weeks? Which would make it around September 2007? Which is weird, because the recession didn't occur until December of that year. --Hero!^(talk)_(contribs)