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Google Chrome

Anyone try out Google's new Chrome browser, yet? It looks pretty cool. You can read about it here. I haven't tried it yet; was wondering what other people thought.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:50, 3 September 2008 (EDT)

  • It's pretty fast, but it doesn't have any plugins that can block ads. So I'll be using Firefox until Google can fix that problem. Chrisyu357 06:52, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
    • According to Chrome's help, it automatically stops pop-ups from creating their own window. However, there may be an ad blocker as a Gears extension (I'm not sure cause I can't find the list of Gears extensions; probably cause I haven't installed Gears). I can't use Chrome/Gears as it doesn't run on Windows2000.--MiamiVolts (talk) 09:22, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
  • I have no interest in it. It's unlikely to gain much traction and is likely just to end up being a fad. Google doesn't have a lot of focus and they put out a lot of projects that ultimately just end up failing, I think this will be another example. Despite the candy they put in there I don't think they have the focus to develop a full-featured, secure, reliable web browser when Firefox is already out there and meets all of these demands already. Google wants to try to leverage their services to provide you the experience they want you to have and I don't think it's going to succeed. Sure some people may use it and some people may think it's neat, but I think the novelty will wear off quickly and people will just return to their stable and reliable prior browser. ...and what are the odds Google's browser is going to let you block Google ads, eh? It would be stupid for them to block their own ads, but it would also be stupid of them to not let people block ads. The only reason Chrome even got any attention was because it was Google putting it out there. It's not really impressive in its own right and as I said I think the novelty (as well as the project) will fade quickly. (Admin 09:52, 3 September 2008 (EDT))
    • It can probably block pop-ups but it cannot hide the ads that are on the page itself (of which most are ads by Google). I've got a plugin in Firefox to do this, so yes, I like Firefox better. Chrisyu357 10:17, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
      • It has some pretty neat features and ideas, but it is missing some useful features and one almost necessity for me (a spell checker). -Lөvөl 17:28, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
        • Since it's open source and has extension capability like Firefox, such features will probably be added eventually. Their idea was to make it simple and secure. The problem for me, though, is that my Win2K machine can't run it and it doesn't look like they've any plans to add a Win2K version.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:41, 3 September 2008 (EDT)

Soccer Aid

Anyone heard about the UNICEF project Soccer Aid? It's a football (soccer) game with loads of famous celebrities to raise money for charity, and the match is actually being played right now! Only reason I bring it up is because Santiago Cabrera is playing for the Rest of the World team! Though I do of course encourage anyone to donate if they can :) -- Friskymuffin - (talk) 15:04, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

Graphic novel pages

Is there any way we could hide the summery untill say a week after it has come out, with say a Template:Characterbar kind of thing? Just I have to scrole down to read the novel. --Skywalkerrbf 13:29, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

  • I would not be in favor of hiding it. What link are you trying to get to in particular? The PDF or the interactive one by any chance? (Admin 13:57, 9 September 2008 (EDT))
    • Yer,the arobat reader one, its the best quality. Its not normaly a problem as the summery isn't put up for a few days, but it has spoiled me a few times. I would only have it hidden for say a week.--Skywalkerrbf 14:05, 9 September 2008 (EDT)
      • What about episodes when they air? I understand that you're going for the link, so don't look at the bottom of the page. I've been in the same situation, except I look at recent edits when I come to this site. So when I saw things like Evs Dropper clone, it should have spoiled me, but I had no context. I think consistency is important. It's not a spoiler once it's released, so there shouldn't be any hiding of any sort. --Bob (talk) 14:48, 9 September 2008 (EDT)
        • Exactly. It actually bugs me that a lot of sites still consider something a spoiler after it's been released. However, I understand not wanting to see the summary before reading the novel. A good solution is to click on the Adobe link that's in the GN section on the main page (it's above the little tiny infobox)--there's no GN summary on the main page. Otherwise, if you want the Adobe link, it's actually at the top of the GN page itself. It's in the light blue part of the infobox on the right. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:15, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

UK Season 3 release?

I live in the UK and have heard that season 3 will be simulcast over here. However all the sources i've gone through all say the season will start on different days. Could somebody please clear this up for me?LilRebel616 03:39, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

  • BBC hasn't officially released a date on their website, but the popular assessment is that it will air Thursday, September 25th at 9pm British time on BBC2.--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:59, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
    • Thank you very much appreciated LilRebel616 07:10, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

autosig malfunctioning

They appear to have gone goofy, linking to the template and not pulling up the formating. what's going on? look here --SacValleyDweller (talk) 10:29, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

  • Don't know why they're linking funny, and don't know why it's only happening on the main page's talk page. I'll let Admin know. Thx. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:47, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
    • The additional ArchiveLinks template at the top of the page is exceeding a transclusion limit on the article I believe. I recommend ditching the ArchiveLinks templates entirely and just creating the archive listings manually. (Admin 11:28, 15 September 2008 (EDT))
      • Nice work doing the top of talk page templates, Ryan.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:10, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

Episode transcripts

I just received permission from the episode transcriber (kilohoku) to post all of her scripts (with proper credit, of course). This is good news. I've already posted the first season on a blog. After I post the second season (probably tomorrow), I'll make the blog public and we'll go from there.

What this means is that if we want to continue posting transcripts, we'll have to do them ourselves from here on out. I am willing to post them, and to do some grammatical clean up, formatting, and proofreading, but I can't very well spend all my time actually transcribing them. I'll need others to do that. If you're willing, let me know. ryangibsonstewart at heroeswiki dot com. If we get enough people who are willing to help transcribe the episodes, we can organize it really nicely, and divvy up scenes for different transcribers. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 02:18, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

Season 2 just premiered in Germany

  • Season 2 just finished premiering in Germany this hour. The people maintaining the German Heroes Wiki do such an excellent job in translating the articles and making the site informative that I'm seeing a huge spike in activity right now thanks to it. Very nice! (Admin 15:30, 17 September 2008 (EDT))
    • Cool, do we go by the American air date? To me thats a bit biased, i think we should go off the country that airs it first.--Skywalkerrbf 15:34, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
      • First off, I'm referring to Season 2, not 3. :) They're one season behind us. Secondly anytime there is a conflict of information between the US airing and another country, heroeswiki.com takes the US information. This is why all our episodes show their US air dates even though some aired in Canada the day before. On the localized wikis they're free to and encouraged to use whichever source would be most relevent for them. (Admin 15:36, 17 September 2008 (EDT))
        • Oops ok ,sorry!. --Skywalkerrbf 15:40, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
    • I'm very happy for the contributors of the German wiki. They really do a nice job, from what I can tell. (It'd be cool to see some updated statistics from them.) You know, the localized wikis play such a vital role in Heroes Wiki's development, growth, and expansion. As somebody who concentrates on the English wiki, I often forget about our sister sites in other languages. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:46, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

Here we go again!

  • With season three less than 24 hours away we all have a lot to look forward to. This hiatus has been long, but fortunately the writers and artists have managed to keep breathing life into Heroes week after week with the graphic novels. I don't know of any other television series that puts so much commitment and time into its alternate reality (read: Evolutions) components. Because of their hard work this site has even continued to grow (albeit more slowly) during this long hiatus. With Season Three right around the corner we have a lot of work to do and things are going to start getting a lot busier around here. I've noticed in the past week the site activity has already started to climb again in anticipation of the new season. I'm very excited to see what this season has in store for this site. It's time to get back to business! :) (Admin 22:14, 21 September 2008 (EDT))
    • I bet you're ready to see how much that new server can handle. I doubt it'll get anywhere near its capacity, but all the same.--Bob (talk) 23:32, 21 September 2008 (EDT)
      • I know the server can handle quite a bit more than we've ever thrown at it (I made sure it was plenty powerful enough for future increases in traffic when I purchased it). Things around here are always a lot of fun when there is a lot of interest in the show. Each season we've grown quite a bit and I'm looking forward to seeing what's in store for us this season. (Admin 00:14, 22 September 2008 (EDT))

DPL deprecation

  • The load on the server has been pretty high since the premiere. I did some testing and found that the DPL extension is at fault. When I disable DPL the system load decreases so dramatically it's not even funny. It just adds way much overhead and is going to prevent growth. I'd like anyone who's used DPL to re-evaluate the benefit of it in each place it's used (especially on any templates that might be widely transcluded). I want to remove it entirely, but if it will cause a massive amount of work to maintain a particular section of the site then I am slightly open to the possibility of using it in a very select number of places (like 1 or 2) if it still results in the load returning to an acceptable level. (Admin 15:52, 23 September 2008 (EDT))
    • Have you tested as to whether caching the DPL would reduce the server load? Maybe you could alter the DPL code to turn caching on by default? I think I can set up a few examples on the test server if that would help you. Also, it looks like DPL is on roads to become mainstay in the next wikimedia release so if we can work out any way to keep it, I think that would be good. DPL makes maintaining a lot of the portals much easier, and most production staff articles are using it for auto-updating. --MiamiVolts (talk) 00:37, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
      • When the load is higher tomorrow I will see if turning on cached results improves performance significantly. I believe I can set the default globally rather than modifying all the DPL templates. It's promising... I didn't know DPL was bypassing the page cache each time by default. Good idea. (Admin 00:48, 24 September 2008 (EDT))
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