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Edgar's list of carnies lists Mrs. Comey as being a "heat generator" (Let It Bleed).


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I think "heating" is fine. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:49, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

  • Could you please uses your magical NBC sources to verify this is a new ability for us? It would save me the trouble of putting a shotgun in my mouth at the thought of another one of these debates. Until then, we can keep it Camile's ability for all I care.--Piemanmoo 02:49, 14 October 2009 (EDT)
  • :) I'll see what I can find out. But calling it "Camile's ability" will probably get more people riled up (me included) not because of the name of the ability, but because of the name of the character. I'm not sure where we are getting her name, but it's certainly not correct right now! :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 02:55, 14 October 2009 (EDT)
  • "Thermokinesis"? Wanderer32 02:57, 14 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Temperature Manipulation sounds as good a bet as any right now, plus it has the advantage of being named already. Failing that, Waffle Lady's ability would be our next bet, since lack of a solid name didnt stop us from giving the future terrorist one. I'm not trying to play Sylar's advocate here, just using a past consensus regarding names to help guide us, because it's no secret I've been lost a while now.--Piemanmoo 03:03, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

Merge the article

I personally think this is the same as Microwave emission, but since Camise had her hand on the actual toaster we couldn't see the wave.

Wouldn't make any sence for the writers to come up with a new ability, since it's basically the same as one they introduced in the previous season. The ability is just seen under different circumstances. Come to think of it we have seen Luke Campbell use his ability at close proximity and while holding a object he heats.

Who's with me?DarthYotho 16:39, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

Luke's hand didn't glow when he used his ability. I thought about it as well, but keeping this page is the least speculative attitude to take right now. If she starts firing heat like Luke did, then we can consider merging the two pages. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:47, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Maybe his hand didnt heat up because he was at a distance and the heat didnt have any effect on his body. With her body, the heat was reflecting on her hand, causing it to turn a reddish color, maybe thats it. daevon 17:35, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Why wouldn't it make any sense for the writers to come up with a new ability? They do it all the time. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 02:47, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

Compare the look and result of her hands to Ted Spragues

Ted used his ability to make his hands glow, and warm up a frozen car engine. Isn't it the same thing she is doing with the toaster? --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 10/13/2009 17:51 (EST)

  • Hmm... carnies eating irradated waffles. I can see it now. "Gee, aren't these waffles great everyone? Hey, Edgar, why is there a third arm growing out of your stomach?". Can't be the same ability. Even Hiro wouldn't eat those waffles.--Ratclaws 17:58, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Not really, Ted's hands glowed in a different shade, it was brighter. And you can see that Ted's glow was also more diffuse, Camise's glow covers her entire hand, Ted has these spots where it doesn't glow. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:59, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
      • Plus, even if they are the same ability, that's definitely not confirmed. At best, we are correct, and we've correctly separated two different and distinct abilities. At worst, they are the same ability, but we've made a page describing what we've seen from Ted (and others), and what we've seen from the waffle lady. However, if we assume them to be the same abilities, then at best, we are correct. At worst, we've incorrectly identified a character's ability, we are missing an article and information about a unique ability, and we've changed or updated the limits of Ted's ability. I'd much rather err on the side of caution. However, I should also say that I personally think they are two different abilities. Similar, but not the same. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 02:52, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

For what it's worth, here's a better dare to compare. I think more seasoned users of IR might be able to control what exactly they emit, This woman can decide to emit only infrared or some other form of electromagnetic radiation. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 19:59, 16 October 2009 (EDT)

How is this not Pyrokinesis?

How is this being considered a separate ability from pyrokinesis? We've seen pyrokinetics do this exact thing before (Meredith heating up a container, for example). --Ricard Desi (t,c) 20:24, 24 October 2009 (EDT)

  • Meredith created a flame to do that, she didn't release heat only. Plus, the effects are different, heating resembles microwave emmision the most. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:33, 24 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Right. Mrs. Comey might have pyrokinesis, but until we see flames shooting out of her hands, we really can't confirm that, and we don't want to make a leap in logic that might end up being wrong. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:11, 24 October 2009 (EDT)

Enhanced cooking?

Both the waffles and the popcorn were said to be unusually delicious. Maybe her ability allows her to cook better then the average human being? Honestly, if Doyle's ability allows him to control the movements of people and objects with no logical explanation, this isn't entirely impossible :p--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 17:39, 24 December 2009 (EST)

  • Haha, it would be great if it were true :)) Altes 02:24, 25 December 2009 (EST)
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Heat generation

As you can see in Edgar's list, she's listed as a "heat generator". Does this mean we need to move this to "heat generation"? Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:16, 12 January 2010 (EST)

  • I guess so, its canonly named now. At the least, a rename tag? --Leckie -- Talk 12:03, 12 January 2010 (EST)
    • Canon it is, folks. Let's do it. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 14:45, 12 January 2010 (EST)
  • Just for clarifying purposes, the names on the list have been confirmed? They were slightly blurry in the photo.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 17:08, 12 January 2010 (EST)
    • They're pretty cut and dry. --OutbackZack 17:11, 12 January 2010 (EST)
      • I don't know, I've been staring at Joseph's ability for a while, and now it looks like "controls elephants". I'm not necessarily saying I think that the titles are wrong, I'm just wondering whether they're clear enough.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 19:19, 12 January 2010 (EST)
        • Some of them are pretty clear. Heat generation is one of those. But I still don't see "emotions" in Joseph's.--Riddler 19:22, 12 January 2010 (EST)
          • Do you know what's really funny? PJDEP, before you said that, I could easily read "controls emotion", but now, I can only read "control elephants" too! Haha. Anyway, "heat generator" appears quite clearly, so let's change this.--Referos 19:26, 12 January 2010 (EST)