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Insignificance

The text of the article says nothing more than "sylar [sic] forces a spinach can into his hand." I don't even know of anything that links it to Popeye, so we couldn't even beef up the article with trivia--but even if we could, the reference could just as easily (and more significantly) go on Powerless#Trivia. Man, can you imagine how crufty the wiki would be if we had an article about every item that Sylar ever moved with his mind? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:42, 13 December 2008 (EST)

  • I added a few things in the meantime so at least while we discuss deleting it it looks... well, halfway decent. A list of telekinetic subjects would be interesting, for sure... I was planning on going back and rewatching most of the series anyway, I think I'll make a list. --Ricard Desi 11:30, 13 December 2008 (EST)
    • A list of things that were telekinetically moved? Wouldn't that basically be gleaned from examples of telekinesis? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:46, 13 December 2008 (EST)
      • Definitely mis-read your post, I thought you said "crafty", not "crufty". --Ricard Desi 14:30, 13 December 2008 (EST)
  • I agree with Ryan; spinach really isn't notable enough to constitute its own article. Delete. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 18:30, 13 December 2008 (EST)

significance

  • It actually is a reference to Popeye: Allan Arkush admits it in Heroes Unmasked video. I appreciate the humour of this citation of a very different bio-ability as counterbalance to this other reference to Bobby Kennedy and it sure is not Pandora's box! Spinach is enhanced strength, ironic anticipation of "Characters with Synthetic Abilities" and sublime allusion to eating brain. --Juba 08:02, 17 December 2008 (EST)
  • His powers were nothing, then he got injected. After that he weekly gets the spinach. Then he is back to his old self!!! (maby he saw how things worked, and if he used TK on the spinach he knew he would still have it, and it would come back) Fred1793 08:10, 17 December 2008 (EST)
  • If this page is kept, the name should be changed. It was a spinach can, not just spinach. There was no spinach in the can; it was empty. --Ice Vision (talk) 11:31, 17 December 2008 (EST)
    • I always saw Sylars finger as a TK can opener... --Juba 17:14, 17 December 2008 (EST)

All Keeps

So who thinks we should keep the page ?. In my opinion i think we should keep it.Not just because i made it ! Gabriel Bishop 13:39, 19 December 2008 (EST) Gabriel Bishop

I really don't think it's notable enough. It was a one-time piece of junk that likely will never be referred to again, unlike waffles or other stuff. I'm for the delete. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 13:18, 24 December 2008 (EST)
    • I think we should keep it, if there is a little place for humour left here. (Besides there are tons of characters appearing only once!) --Juba 18:24, 27 December 2008 (EST)
      • Not notable, appeared once. At best this should be under the Notes section of Powerless. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 18:26, 27 December 2008 (EST)
      • Characters are different than inanimate objects. If we keep this page, we might as well make pages for the lady with a purse's purse, or the grandma glasses Noah tries on before his horn-rimmed pair. It's not notable at all. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 18:36, 27 December 2008 (EST)
        • Well we are keeping it then Gabriel Bishop 14:55, 3 January 2009 (EST) Gabriel Bishop
          • Actually, it would appear there's much more sway against keeping this page. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 14:58, 3 January 2009 (EST)
            • Well you keep stupid pages on A ladies handbag which i believe irrelevent while the spinach can is important to sylar's history Gabriel Bishop 15:10, 3 January 2009 (EST) Gabriel Bishop
              • I'm for deletion too. IotV 20.11, 3 January 2009 (GMT)
                • well ryan took off the deletion so i guess he isnt up for it Gabriel Bishop 15:19, 3 January 2009 (EST) Gabriel Bishop
                  • I don't think you understand. Thrashmeister said that IF we keep this article, people might as well make articles for purses and glasses. We don't actually have those articles, so they cannot possibly be stupid if they don't exist, and we can't keep them if we don't have them. And how is the can important? Its a cool reference and nothing more. -- Tristan0709 talk 21:45, 3 January 2009 (EST)
                  • I'm not sure what you're talking about; we don't have any articles for any ladies' handbags. And I disagree; the spinach can isn't important to Sylar's history at all. If it never made its one-time, insignificant appearance in Powerless, Sylar's character would be exactly the same. The only thing that makes it somewhat notable is the reference to Popeye, but even in that case, it should stay in the notes for Powerless. It doesn't need its own article. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 21:43, 3 January 2009 (EST)
WE SHALL KEEP THE SPINACH IT HELPED SYLAR KNOW HE HAD HIS POWERS BACK Gabriel Bishop 11:21, 5 January 2009 (EST)Gabriel Bishop
  • Calm down, GB. It helped Sylar in the same way the glass in Chandra's apartment helped Sylar. That is, not at all. It was just what he was testing his power on. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 18:40, 6 January 2009 (EST)
                  • Don't you mean, we *should*? Everyone apart from you and another person wants to delete it...--IotV 11:57, 5 January 2009 (EST)
  • Differential diagnosis, people. I'm siding with deleters. --DocM 14:18, 6 January 2009 (EST)
    • I actually think we should keep it.. It was one of the first things we saw of season 3, and it provided a base for A LOT of theories.. It's a funny reference, which has been confirmed by Allan Arkush. It proved that Sylar got his powers back, and therefore it's an important part of his history. :) Anonymousheroine 14:30, 6 January 2009 (EST)
      • Since it's a confirmed reference, I don't mind keeping it around. We have articles that deserve the boot much more than this one. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:08, 6 January 2009 (EST)