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***Right. Though it's fun speculation, there's no evidence that it's Matt's brain that's in the [[vault]]--or even that they removed Matt's brain. But the brain in the vault is shown on [[March 20, 2007 (actual)|March 20, 2007]]; the mainframe is destroyed in [[2008 (actual)|2008]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 08:25, 29 January 2008 (EST)
***Right. Though it's fun speculation, there's no evidence that it's Matt's brain that's in the [[vault]]--or even that they removed Matt's brain. But the brain in the vault is shown on [[March 20, 2007 (actual)|March 20, 2007]]; the mainframe is destroyed in [[2008 (actual)|2008]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 08:25, 29 January 2008 (EST)
****Maybe [[space-time manipulation|time travel]] was involved? :) And yes, the ending was quite sad. --[[User:Referos|Referos]] 08:59, 29 January 2008 (EST)
****Maybe [[space-time manipulation|time travel]] was involved? :) And yes, the ending was quite sad. --[[User:Referos|Referos]] 08:59, 29 January 2008 (EST)
*****Sad? It was despicable (and character building) to watch how much Bob ''didn't'' care about Matt. I'm continually amazed at the moral grays in which the Company dabbles. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:10, 29 January 2008 (EST)
****** Are Hana and Drucker dead too? --[[User:DocM|DocM]] 10:41, 29 January 2008 (EST)
******* I would have guessed so, except for the fact that Hana told Druker that they would 'meet again'. I expect that they managed to get out of the mainframe. After all, they were locked out (of the datastream), not locked in. --[[User:Havoc|Havoc]] 10:55, 29 January 2008 (EST)
******* I would be extremely disappointed if they were dead, especially because they haven't explained how [[Future Hana|Hana]] was alive in the [[Dark Future|Future]] but [[The Death of Hana Gitelman|died]] in the past. They did leave hints that they were still alive, like the NBC Blurb: "The ultimate goodbye—and a new beginning?" and what Hana said: "We will meet again, Drucker". It might end up with three people as floating tight-wearing humans inside the mainframe. -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 11:08, 29 January 2008 (EST)
******** I agree with you, Level. The most likely scenario was that Hana and Drucker were downloaded into Matt's brain, and now that Matt's memory was uploaded to the Company's new computer, all three consciousnesses should reside there.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 11:24, 29 January 2008 (EST)
********* Whether or not their consciousnesses are still alive or active or whatever remains to be seen. But as far as their physical bodies are concerned, they're both dead. For purposes of the wiki, they're dead. As for F_Hana, she existed in a timeline that branched off of [[Timeline:November 2006#November 4-5, 2006|November 4-5, 2006]]. It was after that branch that Hana died. I don't really know how Hiro's trip to the Dark Future would have changed Hana's fate, but I suppose it could be a [[Ray Bradbury|butterfly effect]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:28, 29 January 2008 (EST)
**********I support the theory that F_Hana wasn't able to go to space because of the explosion and the launch was delayed so she went back to Noah. --[[User:Citizen|Citizen]] 13:24, 29 January 2008 (EST)
*********** I support the theory that Noah and/or Drucker found some way to help Hana reanimate herself.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 15:08, 29 January 2008 (EST)
************ Maybe they will have a GN "How Hana Got Her Body Back". -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 13:34, 19 February 2008 (EST)
************* They may, but unless it is on how she got her body back in the original timeline, I think they would save that for an episode. In the current timeline, they will be able to choose a new actress to play the part if they want to since Hana should be able to change the information that controls her appearance. And since the Company is searching for her, it would be a good way to hide from them if she is able to reanimate herself.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 15:15, 19 February 2008 (EST)
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How do we know that this takes place in the present? Elle looks rather young, and it supports the theory that the brain is Matt's. Also, it explains how Hana ended up in cyberspace after her death; Drucker taught her how to animate herself in digital worlds before she died. -- [[User:LightSpectra|LightSpectra]] 23:00, 2 February 2008 (EST)
* [[Image:Powers Elle talent show.jpg|thumb|right]]The talent show happened in [[2008]]. Everything else took following happened afterwards, so it's either the really really recent past or it's the future. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 01:27, 3 February 2008 (EST)

== Black Line ==

Whats with the thick black line behind the surgeon on the last page, second bit? seems to be a bit random...--[[User:(. .')|(. .')]] ([[User talk:(. .')|talk]]) 10:29, 3 March 2008 (EST)
* It does seem odd, but I think it's just meant to be one of the data cables hanging from the ceiling.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 10:43, 3 March 2008 (EST)
* Hmm? It doesnt seem to be conected to anything O_O --[[User:(. .')|(. .&#39;)]] 11:24, 3 March 2008 (EST)

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There's not really a traditional narrator of this issue. Since it's sort of a continuation of Hana and Drucker's Plot Discovered (and written by R.D. Hall, too), I figured it was appropriate to say that Matt Neuenberg was the narrator on the issues page. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 05:51, 29 January 2008 (EST)

So That's Where the Brain come from!

  • Wow, a big mystery from the finale solved. It's good that some of our answers are solved during the strike, eh? Although I hate how they depicted Hana and Drucker as floating tight-wearing human inside the mainframe. 07:34, 29 January 2008 (EST)
    • It has a really depressing end, by the way, which is uncommon in GNs. 07:36, 29 January 2008 (EST)
    • Chronologically however, that would just not make sense. --  Seclusion  talk / contribs 08:05, 29 January 2008 (EST)
      • Right. Though it's fun speculation, there's no evidence that it's Matt's brain that's in the vault--or even that they removed Matt's brain. But the brain in the vault is shown on March 20, 2007; the mainframe is destroyed in 2008. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:25, 29 January 2008 (EST)
        • Maybe time travel was involved? :) And yes, the ending was quite sad. --Referos 08:59, 29 January 2008 (EST)
          • Sad? It was despicable (and character building) to watch how much Bob didn't care about Matt. I'm continually amazed at the moral grays in which the Company dabbles. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:10, 29 January 2008 (EST)
            • Are Hana and Drucker dead too? --DocM 10:41, 29 January 2008 (EST)
              • I would have guessed so, except for the fact that Hana told Druker that they would 'meet again'. I expect that they managed to get out of the mainframe. After all, they were locked out (of the datastream), not locked in. --Havoc 10:55, 29 January 2008 (EST)
              • I would be extremely disappointed if they were dead, especially because they haven't explained how Hana was alive in the Future but died in the past. They did leave hints that they were still alive, like the NBC Blurb: "The ultimate goodbye—and a new beginning?" and what Hana said: "We will meet again, Drucker". It might end up with three people as floating tight-wearing humans inside the mainframe. -Lөvөl 11:08, 29 January 2008 (EST)
                • I agree with you, Level. The most likely scenario was that Hana and Drucker were downloaded into Matt's brain, and now that Matt's memory was uploaded to the Company's new computer, all three consciousnesses should reside there.--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:24, 29 January 2008 (EST)
                  • Whether or not their consciousnesses are still alive or active or whatever remains to be seen. But as far as their physical bodies are concerned, they're both dead. For purposes of the wiki, they're dead. As for F_Hana, she existed in a timeline that branched off of November 4-5, 2006. It was after that branch that Hana died. I don't really know how Hiro's trip to the Dark Future would have changed Hana's fate, but I suppose it could be a butterfly effect. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:28, 29 January 2008 (EST)
                    • I support the theory that F_Hana wasn't able to go to space because of the explosion and the launch was delayed so she went back to Noah. --Citizen 13:24, 29 January 2008 (EST)
                      • I support the theory that Noah and/or Drucker found some way to help Hana reanimate herself.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:08, 29 January 2008 (EST)
                        • Maybe they will have a GN "How Hana Got Her Body Back". -Lөvөl 13:34, 19 February 2008 (EST)
                          • They may, but unless it is on how she got her body back in the original timeline, I think they would save that for an episode. In the current timeline, they will be able to choose a new actress to play the part if they want to since Hana should be able to change the information that controls her appearance. And since the Company is searching for her, it would be a good way to hide from them if she is able to reanimate herself.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:15, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Timeline

How do we know that this takes place in the present? Elle looks rather young, and it supports the theory that the brain is Matt's. Also, it explains how Hana ended up in cyberspace after her death; Drucker taught her how to animate herself in digital worlds before she died. -- LightSpectra 23:00, 2 February 2008 (EST)

  • The talent show happened in 2008. Everything else took following happened afterwards, so it's either the really really recent past or it's the future. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:27, 3 February 2008 (EST)

Black Line

Whats with the thick black line behind the surgeon on the last page, second bit? seems to be a bit random...--(. .') (talk) 10:29, 3 March 2008 (EST)

  • It does seem odd, but I think it's just meant to be one of the data cables hanging from the ceiling.--MiamiVolts (talk) 10:43, 3 March 2008 (EST)
  • Hmm? It doesnt seem to be conected to anything O_O --(. .') 11:24, 3 March 2008 (EST)