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==Comments== |
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Wow, lots of good action in part 3! :) Definitely not a disappointment, and it's open-ended too...--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 03:39, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
Wow, lots of good action in part 3! :) Definitely not a disappointment, and it's open-ended too...--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 03:39, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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* Looks like Julien (car clone at least) is very close to Evs. Could Evs be another one of Julien's clones? --{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 03:46, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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** He said "not exactly". Sounds like the "root" Julien *is* Evs...--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 04:12, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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** I'm a little confused as to which one is the real Julien anyway. Up until now, we all thought it was the guy in the cell, but if he's supposed to have died in the crash, then it would now seem that the guy in the car is the root. So can we assume from this that the clones can clone themselves? Or that they don't die when the real one is killed? Or is it simply that Julien didn't die in the crash and Sabine was just saying that he's as good as dead? --[[User:Yamawhata?|Yamawhata?]] 15:18, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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*** I think the root was the guy in the cell. We saw him clone himself so we know that's him. Also, he didn't die in the crash or else there would be no reason to recover the body... maybe they plan to use the Adam/Claire/Mohinder elixir of life on him? Also, from what Noah said the clone riding in the front seat would likely be dead if the root died.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 15:25, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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By the way, how the Clone in the car can survive when the Root Julien died? Any explanation to that?--Rvsdl 06:47, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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* so maybe he is not dead at all, just severely injured --[[User:Cookie|cookie]] 14:30, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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** Sabine says that she understands now that "Jules" is dead. "Jules" is her nickname for the clone she loved: the [[Hartsdale clone]].--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 16:22, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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*** Why would she say that she understands he's dead when she killed him herself? There was never any doubt about it. --[[User:Yamawhata?|Yamawhata?]] 12:21, 18 June 2008 (EDT) |
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**** She had thought that the Hartsdale clone was "just another clone" when she killed him, and that the original was the one she loved. However, when the original didn't recognize her and asked her "Who are you?" in Flemish when he awoke, she knew the one she loved was dead.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 13:05, 18 June 2008 (EDT) |
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I think the Easter egg is a spoiler. It looks to me like it's of a certain [[Spoiler:Season Three|spoiler character]]. Anyone else agree? Also, anyone got any ideas on what the clone who helped with the escape is supposed to be holding?--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 05:34, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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* It looks like HRG to me. It is the scene where he shot the invisible man at the bridge once. The clone looks like he is holding a piece of cotton or bandage to stop his bleeding.--Rvsdl 06:44, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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** Personally I assumed it was HRG and Claude, because it looks like them. If it is a spoiler though with that character, should there be some kind of spoiler warning attached to the easter egg? :S -- {{User:Friskymuffin/Sig}} 07:16, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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* Exactly what I thought, that's why I editted the EE to say it was [[Christopher Eccleston]]. Maybe someone can double check it on the dvd? [[User:Martijnvs|Martijnvs]] 06:53, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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would somebody mind upload some pictures of the Company's parking lot for that page and somemore GN pix. thanx! (and yes frisky muffin i remembered to use my sig). -- {{User:Shoyru1177/sig}} |
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* I went ahead and uploaded one for you. I'm glad you remembered to use your sig too :P -- {{User:Friskymuffin/Sig}} 13:04, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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can someone update the profile pic in [[Julien Dumont]]'s own page? the one there is the [[Hartsdale clone]]'s... --[[User:Cookie|Cookie]] 14:38, June 17, 2008 |
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* Who's asking? The pic there is the one supplied by NBC as the preview for Julien. I think it's fine as -is.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 14:42, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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** Although Julien's true identity was a surprise. The picture really should be changed since the real Julien is best represented using one of the more recent shots we have of him. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 14:48, 17 June 2008 (EDT)) |
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*** Agreed, and for the other characters with the preview shots.--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 19:30, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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** i am :P what i'm trying to say is that now we know for sure it is from some clone out there and not from julien (the root) --[[User:Cookie|cookie]] 20:58, 17 June 2008 (EDT) |
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*** How do we know that? The profile pic appears to be a colored version of the one on his assignment tracker. Admin is right though that we should probably use the most recent shot for the characters.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 02:11, 18 June 2008 (EDT) |
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== Devin missing == |
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still reading [http://jasonbadower.blogspot.com/2008/09/root-branch-part-3-wrap-up.html Jason Badower's blog], the artist of Root & Branch GN and when he's talking about page 3 of r&b part III, he states ''The agents in panel 4 are Donna, Thompson, Devin and some random dude.'' i think the GN needs a clear update |
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* I don't know what you mean by a clear update. Regardless, as much as I love reading Jason's blog, it's not a [[canon]] source, but rather good information. Because of timeline inconsistencies with Devin being there after he's already been killed, at best, this information could go in the Notes section. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 01:42, 3 September 2008 (EDT) |
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** by clear i mean "to clarify" this new fact :) --[[User:Cookie|cookie]] 02:47, 3 September 2008 (EDT) |
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*** Is it a fact though? I mean, sure, we could put a note on the page...but there's no clear indication that Devin is there--in fact, it goes against the laws of nature for Devin to be there. Now I know this is ''Heroes'' and the laws of nature don't always apply, but the laws of storytelling still do. If that's Devin and he's back from the dead or he's been altered in some way or somebody cloned him or whatever, then it would be more obviously shown and would be a bigger beat in the story, rather than a shadowy figure, completely unrecognizable without the artist's blog to help us out. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 07:47, 3 September 2008 (EDT) |
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Comments
Wow, lots of good action in part 3! :) Definitely not a disappointment, and it's open-ended too...--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:39, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- Looks like Julien (car clone at least) is very close to Evs. Could Evs be another one of Julien's clones? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 03:46, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- He said "not exactly". Sounds like the "root" Julien *is* Evs...--MiamiVolts (talk) 04:12, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- I'm a little confused as to which one is the real Julien anyway. Up until now, we all thought it was the guy in the cell, but if he's supposed to have died in the crash, then it would now seem that the guy in the car is the root. So can we assume from this that the clones can clone themselves? Or that they don't die when the real one is killed? Or is it simply that Julien didn't die in the crash and Sabine was just saying that he's as good as dead? --Yamawhata? 15:18, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- I think the root was the guy in the cell. We saw him clone himself so we know that's him. Also, he didn't die in the crash or else there would be no reason to recover the body... maybe they plan to use the Adam/Claire/Mohinder elixir of life on him? Also, from what Noah said the clone riding in the front seat would likely be dead if the root died.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:25, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
By the way, how the Clone in the car can survive when the Root Julien died? Any explanation to that?--Rvsdl 06:47, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- so maybe he is not dead at all, just severely injured --cookie 14:30, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- Sabine says that she understands now that "Jules" is dead. "Jules" is her nickname for the clone she loved: the Hartsdale clone.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:22, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- Why would she say that she understands he's dead when she killed him herself? There was never any doubt about it. --Yamawhata? 12:21, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
- She had thought that the Hartsdale clone was "just another clone" when she killed him, and that the original was the one she loved. However, when the original didn't recognize her and asked her "Who are you?" in Flemish when he awoke, she knew the one she loved was dead.--MiamiVolts (talk) 13:05, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
- Why would she say that she understands he's dead when she killed him herself? There was never any doubt about it. --Yamawhata? 12:21, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
- Sabine says that she understands now that "Jules" is dead. "Jules" is her nickname for the clone she loved: the Hartsdale clone.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:22, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
Easter egg, other comments
I think the Easter egg is a spoiler. It looks to me like it's of a certain spoiler character. Anyone else agree? Also, anyone got any ideas on what the clone who helped with the escape is supposed to be holding?--MiamiVolts (talk) 05:34, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- It looks like HRG to me. It is the scene where he shot the invisible man at the bridge once. The clone looks like he is holding a piece of cotton or bandage to stop his bleeding.--Rvsdl 06:44, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- Personally I assumed it was HRG and Claude, because it looks like them. If it is a spoiler though with that character, should there be some kind of spoiler warning attached to the easter egg? :S -- Friskymuffin - (talk) 07:16, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- Exactly what I thought, that's why I editted the EE to say it was Christopher Eccleston. Maybe someone can double check it on the dvd? Martijnvs 06:53, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
New GN pics
would somebody mind upload some pictures of the Company's parking lot for that page and somemore GN pix. thanx! (and yes frisky muffin i remembered to use my sig). -- Shoyru1177 (talk)
- I went ahead and uploaded one for you. I'm glad you remembered to use your sig too :P -- Friskymuffin - (talk) 13:04, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
root julien profile pic
can someone update the profile pic in Julien Dumont's own page? the one there is the Hartsdale clone's... --Cookie 14:38, June 17, 2008
- Who's asking? The pic there is the one supplied by NBC as the preview for Julien. I think it's fine as -is.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:42, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- Although Julien's true identity was a surprise. The picture really should be changed since the real Julien is best represented using one of the more recent shots we have of him. (Admin 14:48, 17 June 2008 (EDT))
- Agreed, and for the other characters with the preview shots.--SacValleyDweller (talk) 19:30, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- i am :P what i'm trying to say is that now we know for sure it is from some clone out there and not from julien (the root) --cookie 20:58, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- How do we know that? The profile pic appears to be a colored version of the one on his assignment tracker. Admin is right though that we should probably use the most recent shot for the characters.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:11, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
- Although Julien's true identity was a surprise. The picture really should be changed since the real Julien is best represented using one of the more recent shots we have of him. (Admin 14:48, 17 June 2008 (EDT))
Devin missing
still reading Jason Badower's blog, the artist of Root & Branch GN and when he's talking about page 3 of r&b part III, he states The agents in panel 4 are Donna, Thompson, Devin and some random dude. i think the GN needs a clear update
- I don't know what you mean by a clear update. Regardless, as much as I love reading Jason's blog, it's not a canon source, but rather good information. Because of timeline inconsistencies with Devin being there after he's already been killed, at best, this information could go in the Notes section. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:42, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
- by clear i mean "to clarify" this new fact :) --cookie 02:47, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
- Is it a fact though? I mean, sure, we could put a note on the page...but there's no clear indication that Devin is there--in fact, it goes against the laws of nature for Devin to be there. Now I know this is Heroes and the laws of nature don't always apply, but the laws of storytelling still do. If that's Devin and he's back from the dead or he's been altered in some way or somebody cloned him or whatever, then it would be more obviously shown and would be a bigger beat in the story, rather than a shadowy figure, completely unrecognizable without the artist's blog to help us out. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:47, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
- by clear i mean "to clarify" this new fact :) --cookie 02:47, 3 September 2008 (EDT)