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==Extra Help in sections== |
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*This might seem like a stupid idea but I'll present it anyway. I thought maybe that each section: characters, powers, production, fan creations etc. Each section could have one or two or however many needed be in charge of updating each page. Obviously one peron updating all characters would not work. It didn't work well for the Articles of Confederation either. So maybe we could have four or five people helping out more with updating characters, maybe two people updating powers. You get what I'm saying, right? And I don't mean AT ALL, not at all any person gets a sysop rank. That is totally not what I mean. But I think this idea, if you like it could really help get rid of stubs. Then if new web surfers stumble upon this site they won't see stubs all over the main characters. If it is something like [[Nissica]], it isn't that big of a deal but Season One summaries I think should really be updated. The examples I used aren't really the exact ones I'm' proposing but something similar to that. See ya later! [[User:Jason Garrick|Jason Garrick]] 22:00, 9 October 2007 (EDT) |
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Revision as of 02:00, 10 October 2007
Extra Help in sections
- This might seem like a stupid idea but I'll present it anyway. I thought maybe that each section: characters, powers, production, fan creations etc. Each section could have one or two or however many needed be in charge of updating each page. Obviously one peron updating all characters would not work. It didn't work well for the Articles of Confederation either. So maybe we could have four or five people helping out more with updating characters, maybe two people updating powers. You get what I'm saying, right? And I don't mean AT ALL, not at all any person gets a sysop rank. That is totally not what I mean. But I think this idea, if you like it could really help get rid of stubs. Then if new web surfers stumble upon this site they won't see stubs all over the main characters. If it is something like Nissica, it isn't that big of a deal but Season One summaries I think should really be updated. The examples I used aren't really the exact ones I'm' proposing but something similar to that. See ya later! Jason Garrick 22:00, 9 October 2007 (EDT)
Conspiracy Unit sandbox
Thanks, man. I learnt how to do that, and then completely forgot. ;) --Conspiracy Unit 06:59, 3 October 2007 (EDT)
- No biggie whatsoever. I'm mostly concerned about people searching for something in the regular pages and accidentally stumbling upon your page. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 07:05, 3 October 2007 (EDT)
Question about Trivial/Fun/Funny things people might have missed
Hey there RGS- I used to have a bunch of screencaps after the second episode of last season for speculation/trivia, but the image host I used went offline. I still have copies offline, and the various threads at a few HEROES fansites are still up, along with a trail for HEROES Screencaps. If you wanted to look at least at the descriptions (though there are a few), could you figure out if any of the images could/should be hosted here?
Also, more recently, I made a thread about things people may have missed in "Lizards" (you'll need to log in at 9thW to read it, and most of my posts include a screencap), which are mainly trivial/fun/funny things I noticed while rewatching Lizards. Is there a place in an episode article where some of those might fit?
Just wondering what you thought. 'ROESian
- First, I had no idea that you were Hero from 9th Wonders. Okay, now that that's out of the way, great stuff you put on 9th Wonders. (I can't access snurl from my work computer, so I'll look at that stuff later).
- Pyrex could be mentioned on product placement if you want.
- I thought about making an article for US Press. It would be considered a publication.
- The article text would make for some good trivia on the page.
- My wife and I met in theater/film classes, and we noticed the horse's behind, too. (Subtle jokes like that are fun--kind of like when Sylar cut off the top of Charlie's head while she was cutting the lid off a big can.) I don't know if the horse's behind could go anywhere, though--it's just a fun filmmaking device.
- I suppose the sticker could be included in the gallery on Costa Verde High School.
- I noticed the locker number too (my wife hates when I rewind TiVo to check things like that out). That would make a good piece of trivia on Claire Bennet or CVHS or both.
- I usually try to ignore continuity errors. I know people revel in them, but (with the exception of content-based errors) they've never really done anything for me.
- It's funny that you noticed so many things that I noticed too. My wife hates feet and couldn't stand that scene (as I think most people got a little squeamish during Claire's feet feat). She said she was particularly disturbed by the sore on her toe, and I wondered how Claire could ever get a sore? Odd thing to overlook, eh?
- Great stuff, though. You've got a good eye, and I'd love it if you could put something together like that for each episode. Sort of a useless and fun trivia compilation for every chapter. Thanks! -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 14:44, 3 October 2007 (EDT)
- That's fun that ya noticed those also. If I could get a higher-resolution screencap of the Kaito article, I could transcribe more of the randomness in it. FYI- a Talkback Studios does exist, which merged with Freemantle Media (Thames) to make TalkbackThames. And I sorta told ya (if you read it) my various usernames here... The random sightings were enough (imo) to make a thread about it for "Lizards", and if there are enough interesting (at least to me) things in future eps, I'll probably continue making threads for TYMM (Things You Might've Missed). Just a question - why would they use a "pyrex" glass, when, in such a quick scene, any glass would do, unless it was for product placement? Anyway, in my "blog" at TVGuide, some people have also requested that I make it a weekly thing, but it would kinda depend on what I notice, unless it's something where it's a regular deal to which everyone contributes. 'ROESian
- I hadn't read the post that came after mine. I don't check 9th Wonders as frequently as others. All that fan fiction and role playing stuff gets in the way, if you ask me. The last time I check that thread was when I posted. And you're Hiro at Tim Sale's board, eh? Didn't know that! ... I asked Tim to show us a high-res image of the latest painting (the one Noah unfurls that shows Kaito's death), but I'm afraid my post got lost in the shuffle. You might want to ask him, too. His high-res versions are always so much better than what's shown onscreen. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 14:49, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
- That's fun that ya noticed those also. If I could get a higher-resolution screencap of the Kaito article, I could transcribe more of the randomness in it. FYI- a Talkback Studios does exist, which merged with Freemantle Media (Thames) to make TalkbackThames. And I sorta told ya (if you read it) my various usernames here... The random sightings were enough (imo) to make a thread about it for "Lizards", and if there are enough interesting (at least to me) things in future eps, I'll probably continue making threads for TYMM (Things You Might've Missed). Just a question - why would they use a "pyrex" glass, when, in such a quick scene, any glass would do, unless it was for product placement? Anyway, in my "blog" at TVGuide, some people have also requested that I make it a weekly thing, but it would kinda depend on what I notice, unless it's something where it's a regular deal to which everyone contributes. 'ROESian
Help page summaries
- So I think the help pages have a tendency to be a bit tl;dr. I like how Help:Memorable quotes has the little sidebar summary and I'm thinking about doing the same with the other pages where possible. Thoughts?--Hardvice (talk) 17:25, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
- Yeah, I agree. I really like that. I don't have any specific suggestions, though. However, I particularly enjoy your offbeat examples you give (Uluru's girlfriend, crackwhore, and airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow) which are always good for a chuckle. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 21:09, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
Theory: Preponderance of Biblical Names
The preponderance of characters with Biblical names is something I noticed early on and has been mentioned in a few places, but only once here: powers are from a higher power. Would it be appropriate to create a dedicated theory article to the naming phenomenon? -- FissionChips 19:16, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
- Check out the faith and religion article. There's a bit of documentation on it there already. By the way, I like your name. hehe. (Admin 19:24, 4 October 2007 (EDT))
- Well, there it is, then. I swear I looked first! I suppose for a theory page to be warranted for an identified similarity there would have to be a theory. (Thanks on the name. Stolen fair and square.) -- FissionChips 20:31, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
- Admin provided a great link. I think some theorizing beyond what is written as documentation on that page wouldn't be a bad idea. For instance, it would be inappropriate to put something like "Noah is named such because he is responsible for gathering evolved humans" on a main namespace page, but it would be great on a page like "Theory:faith and religion" or "User:FissionChips/name phenomenon". I'm curious to see what you come up with. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 21:15, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
- Well, there it is, then. I swear I looked first! I suppose for a theory page to be warranted for an identified similarity there would have to be a theory. (Thanks on the name. Stolen fair and square.) -- FissionChips 20:31, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
Characters not in portals
Hey Ryan -- neat trick. I added template:S1 and template:S2 to the new navbar subtemplates. They allow us to see a list of season one and season two characters separately. Should make it easier to figure out who isn't in the portals yet.--Hardvice (talk) 02:21, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Only now it's not working. Crap. It was working when I only had S1. Hmm. Lemme think.--Hardvice (talk) 02:22, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- I don't get it--what was it supposed to do? Why wasn't it working? -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 02:35, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- I had linked to a template from each of the subtemplates. That was supposed to make the what links here page of each fake template produce a list of characters by season. It worked perfectly with one template for season one (it only linked the season one characters), but as soon as I added the second template, everybody showed up in both lists. So I changed them to categories, which is probably better. Of course, everybody's sorted by first name in those cats, and adding sort logic defeats the purpose of making it all happen automagically in the navbar. Oh well. At least we have a list of season two characters now to compare against the portals.--Hardvice (talk) 03:37, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Oh, well....Regarding the autosort, I added {{DEFAULTSORT:}} logic to template:character box which is supposed to use the sort entered as the sort for any category on the page (unless another sort is specified for a particular category). It was working beautifully before, but it suddenly stopped working. I'm wondering, now, whether it's a bug that crept in with the upgrade. (Am I making any sense at all?) -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 03:43, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Hmmm. And everybody has a character box, and the key ones should have a {{{sortname}}}. Weird. Does this coincide with the upgrade? That would have to be my first guess.--Hardvice (talk) 03:47, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Actually, I went through and gave a sortname to everybody who needed a sortname. I'm not sure about the upgrade. Check out the sandbox--all the categories are sorting properly, event when the category comes through a template. I'm not understanding. I wonder if my code is wrong and I'm missing something, because right now, the sandbox is working, even when there is a cat through a template, and when the defaultsort logic comes through a template. Dunno, dunno. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 03:48, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Oddly enough, simplifying the code a bit seems to have fixed it (so far, I haven't looked too closely). That, or it was the unclosed includeonly. One of the two.--Hardvice (talk) 03:56, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Thanks. And Category:Season Two Characters seems to be working fine now, sorting by last name. Nice work. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 03:58, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- I can't imagine why either of the two things I changed would make a difference, though. Oh well. BTW, when did we get a category for cheerleaders? It makes sense, but it still made me laugh.--Hardvice (talk) 04:01, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Sometime around Betty, Part 1's release. There were so many danged cheerleaders, I thought it could use a category. Cute, eh? By the way, when you add {{{sortname|{{PAGENAME}}}}}, does that act as an {{#if: }} statement? Give me the rundown on how that syntax works. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 04:03, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Basically, any time you use a variable, you can always pipe a default value to it. That's why a lot of the templates have the variables like this: {{{age|}}}. That defaults age to blank. {{{age|32}}} would default age to 32, and {{{name|{{PAGENAME}}}}} would default name to {{PAGENAME}}. If the variable is blank or not specified, it will use the default.--Hardvice (talk) 04:07, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Sometime around Betty, Part 1's release. There were so many danged cheerleaders, I thought it could use a category. Cute, eh? By the way, when you add {{{sortname|{{PAGENAME}}}}}, does that act as an {{#if: }} statement? Give me the rundown on how that syntax works. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 04:03, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- I can't imagine why either of the two things I changed would make a difference, though. Oh well. BTW, when did we get a category for cheerleaders? It makes sense, but it still made me laugh.--Hardvice (talk) 04:01, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Thanks. And Category:Season Two Characters seems to be working fine now, sorting by last name. Nice work. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 03:58, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Oddly enough, simplifying the code a bit seems to have fixed it (so far, I haven't looked too closely). That, or it was the unclosed includeonly. One of the two.--Hardvice (talk) 03:56, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Actually, I went through and gave a sortname to everybody who needed a sortname. I'm not sure about the upgrade. Check out the sandbox--all the categories are sorting properly, event when the category comes through a template. I'm not understanding. I wonder if my code is wrong and I'm missing something, because right now, the sandbox is working, even when there is a cat through a template, and when the defaultsort logic comes through a template. Dunno, dunno. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 03:48, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Hmmm. And everybody has a character box, and the key ones should have a {{{sortname}}}. Weird. Does this coincide with the upgrade? That would have to be my first guess.--Hardvice (talk) 03:47, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Oh, well....Regarding the autosort, I added {{DEFAULTSORT:}} logic to template:character box which is supposed to use the sort entered as the sort for any category on the page (unless another sort is specified for a particular category). It was working beautifully before, but it suddenly stopped working. I'm wondering, now, whether it's a bug that crept in with the upgrade. (Am I making any sense at all?) -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 03:43, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- I had linked to a template from each of the subtemplates. That was supposed to make the what links here page of each fake template produce a list of characters by season. It worked perfectly with one template for season one (it only linked the season one characters), but as soon as I added the second template, everybody showed up in both lists. So I changed them to categories, which is probably better. Of course, everybody's sorted by first name in those cats, and adding sort logic defeats the purpose of making it all happen automagically in the navbar. Oh well. At least we have a list of season two characters now to compare against the portals.--Hardvice (talk) 03:37, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- I don't get it--what was it supposed to do? Why wasn't it working? -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 02:35, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
Season Characters descriptions
Also: can you think of better descriptions for the characters by season categories? They don't sound quite right to me. What I was trying to get across was that season one characters have only appeared in season one, and season two characters have appeared (but not necessarily debuted) in Season Two. My brain is down for the count, though.--Hardvice (talk) 04:07, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- Right, it took me a second to understand how the categories worked--for instance, I saw Nathan as a season 2 character, but not as a season one character. It took me a second, and a more exact name would be better. I can't think of anything that's short and succinct, though. I mean, "Characters unique to Season One" would work, I suppose, or "Characters last seen in Season One" works too, but they both sound clunky. I'm at a loss for anything better. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 04:19, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- I labeled it "latest season" on the navbar, and that seems to work. Maybe some variant on that? "The following are characters whose latest appearance is in Season One"?--Hardvice (talk) 04:53, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- I think the navbar wording is fine. (Great idea, by the way!) I think the lead description on the actual category page should probably use the wording you suggested above. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 04:56, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
- I labeled it "latest season" on the navbar, and that seems to work. Maybe some variant on that? "The following are characters whose latest appearance is in Season One"?--Hardvice (talk) 04:53, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
Re: Messages
Bigfoot Lover left you some messages on Bionic Wiki.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:49, 7 October 2007 (EDT)