Episode talk:The Hard Part

New episode checklist

Episode article: _X_ Episode screencap n/a Monologue _X_ Summary _X_ Story Development _X_ Synopsis _X_ Quotes _X_ Trivia Update/add other articles: _X_ Episode redirect: The Hard Part _X_ Check that links from previous episode work _X_ Update Current episode checklist _X_ Update Current events _X_ Update Portal:Episodes _X_ Update Template:Nav _X_ Update Template:Ep _X_ Update Season One _X_ Update Story arcs ___ New interviews and videos _X_ Add Heroes Interactive:The Hard Part _X_ ... and its redirect, Heroes Interactive (The Hard Part) ___ Episode commentaries _X_ Update director, writer, etc. pages _X_ Add Category:Images from The Hard Part Update Main Page: _X_ template:aotw and archive _X_ Next on Heroes _X_ Template:Index ___ Update Soundtrack _X_ Archive Spoiler:The Hard Part (change "aired=")

Update Main Character pages ___ Peter ___ Nathan n/a Isaac ___ Claire ___ Matt ___ Hiro ___ Niki ___ Jessica ___ D.L. ___ Mohinder ___ Micah ___ Mr. Bennet _X_ Sylar n/a Simone Update character-related pages ___ Appearances _X__ Connections

Update other character pages as needed ___ Update Portal:Minor Characters as appropriate _X_ Molly Walker _x_ Simon Petrelli _x_ Monty Petrelli ___ Thompson ___ Ted Sprague ___ Candace Willmer _x_ Heidi Petrelli _X_ Shanti Suresh _X_ Angela Petrelli Add new character pages as needed: _X_ Virginia Gray _X_ Update Portal:Guest Cast as appropriate "Despoil" new characters and actors who already have articles: _X_ Ellen Greene _n/a_ despoil spoiler images, update source, etc. Add references to appropriate recurring themes: ___ (list themes referenced here) Add examples of Powers used: Note: if an "examples" page exists, that's where examples should be added. _x_ Empathic mimicry _x_ Induced radioactivity _x_ Cryokinesis _x_ Telekinesis _x_ Space-time manipulation _x_ Phasing _x_ Technopathy ___ Illusion (only needs a picture) _x_ Enhanced hearing _x_ Prophecy _x_ Precognition

Events/Items/Things/etc. _x_ The Company's tracking system _x_ Sylar's paintings _x_ Peter's paintings _x_ Hiro's sword _x_ Isaac's paintings ___ 9th Wonders! _x_ Claire's gun (is this Claire's or Peter's?) ___ Update Portals as needed ___ Virginia's snowglobes ___ Virus? World Locations _x_ New York, NY _n/a_ Las Vegas, NV _x_ St. Louis, MO _x_ Update Portal:World Locations Places _x_ Nathan's campaign headquarters _x_ Linderman's archives _x_ Used car lot ___ Isaac's loft _X_ Virginia Gray's apartment _x_ Kirby Plaza _x_ The Company facility _x_ Corinthian Casino _X_ Petrelli Mansion ___ Update Portal:Places Timeline _x_ Update timeline Update templates as needed n/a Template: Characternav n/a Template: Actornav n/a Template: Crewnav ___ Template: Research n/a Template: Linderman ___ Template: HRG

New Characters

• Apart from Mrs. Gray, the only new credited character is the "Petrelli Aide" (the aide who lets Angela in to see Nathan -- I thought that was the campaign manager at first, but it's not), played by Geno Monteiro. Worth the effort?--Hardvice (talk) 23:40, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
  • She called him "Brandon", I'm pretty sure... and no. He doesn't talk. But then again, we have Rufus. ---- 00:45, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
    • Rufus is part of the Company. This Brandon dude knocks on a door. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:47, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
      • And Rufus had a line.--Bob 01:35, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
        • I uploaded a nice image of the guy. --Norman 06:52, 10 May 2007 (EDT)
          • I just went through all the recently uploaded files and I didn't see any picture of the guy that knocks on the door of Nathan's office. Where's the image? — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:26, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

Rena Sofer

...is credited. She didn't appear. Hmmm. Ne'er mind -- I remember now. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:47, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

Suddenly Seymour

So when Ellen Greene said that Oregon was green, I was really tempted to make an article about Little Shop of Horrors. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:31, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

• That headline totally should have been "Suddenly Sylar." :-) --ZyberGoat 02:52, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

Synopsis

• ...is a bit less detailed than the others. It could use some expansion and a few more links to different articles (like Hiro's sword, etc.). Also, only one link per article within the synopsis is sufficient (the general rule is one link per section, to accomodate those using a section redirect or the Table of Contents). Otherwise, great job!--Hardvice (talk) 03:21, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Thanks, should probably also add the parts about Angela acknowledging to Nathan she knows about the bomb, where Peter gives Claire a gun, and where Ando shows Hiro a sketch of Sylar killing him... I just did as much as I could from memory so the Synopsis could get started.--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:56, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
    • Ok, the above suggestions have been added and I updated the checklist.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:35, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
      • The summary for this episode is a little sparse, but I feel that the other episode summaries are way too long and overstuffed, no offense. I don't think anyone really wants to know every single aspect of the episode, to the point of describing every line of dialog. There needs to be a middle ground. Thoughts? DannyP 17:40, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
        • If you think it's too sparse, try growing it some, DannyP. I think it's okay as-is but then there may be other things I have haven't thought of.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:13, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
        • I don't think there are any episode summary that describes "every line of dialog", but yes, they're long. However, I find that the full "bloated" episode summaries are a really great resource. When I write individual character histories, I find it really difficult when details are missing. Conversely, I love when all the details for which I'm looking are contained in the ep summary. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:47, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
          • "Every line" was a hyperbole on my part. Hehe. And yes, I do agree that missing details really do suck, and I get an itch to expand on character histories a bit. But at the same time, it's really major plot points that should be the focus, and I feel that there are some superfluous bits in the summaries. And I feel like it doesn't leave enough to the imagination. As for expanding on this episode's summary, I'll work on that, though with my lack of sleep at the moment, I'm not sure if I'm up to it. DannyP 18:51, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

Checking Off Updates

• We need to be careful about not checking things off the list until they are completed. Things like new locations, paintings, and power uses need images as well as text; if we mark them off before adding the images, we risk missing them.--Hardvice (talk) 04:11, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

Micah's location

I think it would be sufficient to include him in the Company's facility for the time being. --Bob 05:24, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

• He's in the Corinthina Hotel isn't he? it would make sense, Linderman could keep an eye on him there Ehsteve23 12:11, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
  • It would make sense that he's in the Corinthian Casino, but I'm not sure it's confirmed. He could also be in Kirby Plaza, in Primatech, or even in his own home but in some illusion created by Candace. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:25, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
    • Isn't it stated that he was taken to New York? Jessaniki and DL went to the Corinthian to find him but he wasn't there. Webrunner 13:33, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
      • I'm pretty sure he's in New York. When the camera panned back through the window and then down to the street, it was New York. Also, I think Linderman needs him there to fix the election, and he wouldn't be in a position to be caught in the Explosion if he weren't in New York. --Ted C 13:36, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
        • Ted's correct. It pans directly down to Kirby Plaza. Plus, Suresh and Thompson meet right outside, and Thompson tells him "why don't you come inside". Either both are on Kirby Plaza, or it's the same building. Since we don't have much information, I think it would be safe to put Micah's "cell" in the Company facility, which is outside Kirby Plaza.--Bob 16:58, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

Once this dern thing downloads...

...I can knock out a bunch of these pages. That'll keep me awake so I can start my favorite: studying!--Bob 06:21, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

The Linderman's file

Aren't we going to create a page for the Linderman's folder about Niki, DL and Micah ? -- FrenchFlo (talk)        08:24, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

• Most of the interesting stuff is on the wall display. It can all just go on Linderman's archives.--Hardvice (talk) 14:53, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

Molly's Power

Molly's power is currently being discussed on her talk page. I think we need to settle on a name before we create a page and start linking to it. I'm not sure if we even know enough about her power to properly name it, let alone describe it. Can she locate anything? Only people? Only people with powers? Her ability is so poorly defined at the moment that I hesitate to say more about it than we already have in the blurb on her character page. --Ted C 10:25, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

• I totally agree with you, Ted. I mean, she hasn't even demonstrated it yet. Other than what's already written on Molly Walker#Powers (which should be transcribed into the powers glossary once we come up with a name), everything else is guesswork. I just don't feel comfortable starting a page (which has already been done) when the freakin' power hasn't even been demonstrated. — StickInTheMud (talk) 11:20, 8 May 2007 (EDT)