Theory:Daphne Millbrook: Difference between revisions
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:{{note}} Her ability could be similar to others we've seen, where she's physically able to take more than the normal person to help with her ability, i.e., Meredith is able to hold fire without being burned and breathe in a room deprived of oxygen from fire.<br /> |
:{{note}} Her ability could be similar to others we've seen, where she's physically able to take more than the normal person to help with her ability, i.e., Meredith is able to hold fire without being burned and breathe in a room deprived of oxygen from fire.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Meredith's immunity to the effects of fire could actually be another aspect of her ability. Whereas, Daphne's ability is simply being fast, not being less prone to physical harm.<br /> |
::{{minus}} Meredith's immunity to the effects of fire could actually be another aspect of her ability. Whereas, Daphne's ability is simply being fast, not being less prone to physical harm.<br /> |
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::{{note}} [[Ability immunity|Rule of Ted]]: Her speed grants an immunity to the effect, otherwise, as the speeds she travels, a speck of dust would be more destructive than any bullet could be.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Daphne can decelerate virtually instantly, so possibly her ability does not increase her effective momentum. Hence crashing would not be any more damaging than a normal person running into a wall.<br /> |
{{minus}} Daphne can decelerate virtually instantly, so possibly her ability does not increase her effective momentum. Hence crashing would not be any more damaging than a normal person running into a wall.<br /> |
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:{{note}} It could be in her ability to be able to stop almost instantly.<br /> |
:{{note}} It could be in her ability to be able to stop almost instantly.<br /> |
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{{note}} Daphne seems to be able to bring things into her super-speed frame of reference instantly without any negative side effects. |
{{note}} Daphne seems to be able to bring things into her super-speed frame of reference instantly without any negative side effects. When she snatches things out of "normal speed time" they would tear apart if they weren't protected by her ability instantly.<br /> |
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| [[Daphne]]'s spirit animal is the rabbit. || None. || {{plus}} [[Matt]]'s spirit animal is the [[turtle]], so the rabbit could serve as a foil to that in a "tortoise and hare" way.<br /> |
| [[Daphne]]'s spirit animal is the rabbit. || None. || {{plus}} [[Matt]]'s spirit animal is the [[turtle]], so the rabbit could serve as a foil to that in a "tortoise and hare" way.<br /> |
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:::::{{plus}} Using what power? She has no known power to slow time down for herself and whoever she is touching, in order to get back to the future.<br /> |
:::::{{plus}} Using what power? She has no known power to slow time down for herself and whoever she is touching, in order to get back to the future.<br /> |
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:::::{{minus}} And who said that running faster than light can bring a person only back in time, not forward? This kind of time traveling isn't understood well for now. Everything is possible, unless it is proved or otherwise.<br /> |
:::::{{minus}} And who said that running faster than light can bring a person only back in time, not forward? This kind of time traveling isn't understood well for now. Everything is possible, unless it is proved or otherwise.<br /> |
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::::::{{plus}} Traveling faster than the speed of light is a well-known theoretical method of traveling ''back'' in time (special relativity), while moving faster than the speed of light is ''not'' a theory for moving ''forward'' in time. |
::::::{{plus}} Traveling faster than the speed of light is a well-known theoretical method of traveling ''back'' in time (special relativity), while moving faster than the speed of light is ''not'' a theory for moving ''forward'' in time. Special relativity is most likely what [[Matt]] was referring to when he explained how Daphne may have been able to time travel.<br /> |
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::::::{{minus}} Perhaps she discovered she has said power.<br /> |
::::::{{minus}} Perhaps she discovered she has said power.<br /> |
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{{minus}} According to special relativity, traveling very fast but not exceeding the speed of light will move you forward through time (the frame of reference for them would slow relative to earth's frame of reference). This part of special relativity is actually well accepted (and tested via atomic clocks). Going backwards by exceeding the speed of light is probably in reality impossible, but still theoretically plausible. Thus Daphne, Hiro, and Ando could go forwards through time by approaching the speed of light without passing it.<br /> |
{{minus}} According to special relativity, traveling very fast but not exceeding the speed of light will move you forward through time (the frame of reference for them would slow relative to earth's frame of reference). This part of special relativity is actually well accepted (and tested via atomic clocks). Going backwards by exceeding the speed of light is probably in reality impossible, but still theoretically plausible. Thus Daphne, Hiro, and Ando could go forwards through time by approaching the speed of light without passing it.<br /> |
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:{{note}} If we want to talk "theoretically" it is impossible to reach the speed of light as you start to gain mass as you reach the speed of light so that even more energy is needed to maintain that speed. ''Nothing'' moves faster than light.<br /> |
:{{note}} If we want to talk "theoretically" it is impossible to reach the speed of light as you start to gain mass as you reach the speed of light so that even more energy is needed to maintain that speed. ''Nothing'' moves faster than light.<br /> |
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::{{note}} All ideas concerning faster-than-light travel are theoretical, as they are currently impossible to test in a controlled environment. |
::{{note}} All ideas concerning faster-than-light travel are theoretical, as they are currently impossible to test in a controlled environment. And, according to the most generally accepted theories concerning special relativity, it is not impossible, it would just simply require infinite energy. Who is to say that part of their abilities does not involve the use of infinite energy?<br /> |
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::{{note}} This seems to be sheer and utter handwaving. |
::{{note}} This seems to be sheer and utter handwaving. Any attempt to reconcile this with modern physics would fall flat on it's face. She apparently travels at a significant portion of the speed of light in general, would would bring along all the relativistic consequences. Decreased length along the axis of travel and increased mass. After she was supercharged, as she accelerated to the speed of light she would have increased her mass as well (without regard as to what would possibly happen after she achieved it) which would have meant by the time she got close she would have done a whole lot more than rustle a few papers (think more pulled the Earth out of its orbit). |
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| [[Daphne]]'s power is similar to [[Hiro]]'s and allows her to alter her personal timeframe (plus that of anything or anyone she is holding). She hasn't learned to use it unless she is running. || She is able to travel backwards and forwards in time. She moves faster than sound without a sonic boom. || {{plus}} With [[Ando]]'s power boost she was able to speed her timeframe to such an extent the universe's timeframe was reversed.<br /> |
| [[Daphne]]'s power is similar to [[Hiro]]'s and allows her to alter her personal timeframe (plus that of anything or anyone she is holding). She hasn't learned to use it unless she is running. || She is able to travel backwards and forwards in time. She moves faster than sound without a sonic boom. || {{plus}} With [[Ando]]'s power boost she was able to speed her timeframe to such an extent the universe's timeframe was reversed.<br /> |
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:::::::{{note}} By that logic, if [[Monica]] were supercharged by Ando when she's not using her power but moving, than she would do random flips and kicks.<br /> |
:::::::{{note}} By that logic, if [[Monica]] were supercharged by Ando when she's not using her power but moving, than she would do random flips and kicks.<br /> |
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::::::::{{note}} Nope, the nature of her ability is different than Daphne's, whose ability has conscious triggers, Monica's has both conscious and unconscious triggers.<br /> |
::::::::{{note}} Nope, the nature of her ability is different than Daphne's, whose ability has conscious triggers, Monica's has both conscious and unconscious triggers.<br /> |
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:::{{plus}} Hiro's |
:::{{plus}} Hiro's ability may actually be him speeding up his molecules to the speed of light to travel through time, while he used the same method to teleport approaching the speed of light while not exceeding it. Then Hiro's ability would be like supercharged super speed.<br /> |
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::::{{note}} Then "space-time manipulation" wouldn't be a good name for Hiro's ability.<br /> |
::::{{note}} Then "space-time manipulation" wouldn't be a good name for Hiro's ability.<br /> |
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:::::{{note}} It would still allow space-time manipulation. When he stops time he most likely moves as fast as light, though no one has ever gone at the speed of light so you can't be 100% sure.<br /> |
:::::{{note}} It would still allow space-time manipulation. When he stops time he most likely moves as fast as light, though no one has ever gone at the speed of light so you can't be 100% sure.<br /> |
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{{plus}} When [[Hiro]] "froze" time, Daphne was able to move and act. Only other "time stoppers" like Peter have been able to do this so far.<br /> |
{{plus}} When [[Hiro]] "froze" time, Daphne was able to move and act. Only other "time stoppers" like Peter have been able to do this so far.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Hiro's ability is less likely to counteract cerebral palsy than an enhanced running ability.<br /> |
{{minus}} Hiro's ability is less likely to counteract cerebral palsy than an enhanced running ability.<br /> |
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| [[Daphne]] would be unable to activate her ability while underwater. || None. || {{plus}} running underwater requires a lot of strength and it is difficult to remain close enough to the bottom to have something to push off of.<br /> |
| [[Daphne]] would be unable to activate her ability while underwater. || None. || {{plus}} running underwater requires a lot of strength and it is difficult to remain close enough to the bottom to have something to push off of.<br /> |
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| [[Daphne]] can be brought back to life if she comes into contact with Matt Jr. || None. || {{plus}} Matt Jr.'s ability may be able to bring people back to life and not just objects.<br /> |
| [[Daphne]] can be brought back to life if she comes into contact with Matt Jr. || None. || {{plus}} Matt Jr.'s ability may be able to bring people back to life and not just objects.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Matt Jr.'s ability doesn't bring objects to life, it merely powers them, making them function.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Matt Jr.'s ability doesn't bring objects to life, it merely powers them, making them function.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Joe Pokaski and Aron Coliete, from [http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20604 Behind the Eclipse Week 19]: " |
{{minus}} Joe Pokaski and Aron Coliete, from [http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20604 Behind the Eclipse Week 19]: "Daphne's dead, baby. Daphne's dead."<br /> |
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:{{note}} The writers have lied to us [[Ability supercharging|before]].<br /> |
:{{note}} The writers have lied to us [[Ability supercharging|before]].<br /> |
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::{{note}} How is ability supercharging a lie?<br /> |
::{{note}} How is ability supercharging a lie?<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Wings are naturally adapted for flight, arms aren't.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Wings are naturally adapted for flight, arms aren't.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Daphne said herself that she can't run on air.<br /> |
{{minus}} Daphne said herself that she can't run on air.<br /> |
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Revision as of 22:10, 12 September 2009
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The following fan theories are about Daphne Millbrook.
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Theories
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| Future Daphne is the new timeline's version of the agent from Walls. | None. | + When the explosion future was changed, it could have changed who made the agent ranks.
+ The altering of the future could have changed to whom the ability of super speed would go to.
+ Altering the future could have prevented a condition that enabled the original agent to develop her ability. |
| If Daphne charged into someone at super speed, that person would die. | None. | + The force of her hitting them would be similar to that of a bullet.
- Matt created an illusion of her hitting Knox while traveling at super speed, and only she was hurt.
• She would also die or at least get seriously injured.
- Daphne can decelerate virtually instantly, so possibly her ability does not increase her effective momentum. Hence crashing would not be any more damaging than a normal person running into a wall.
• Daphne seems to be able to bring things into her super-speed frame of reference instantly without any negative side effects. When she snatches things out of "normal speed time" they would tear apart if they weren't protected by her ability instantly. |
| Daphne's spirit animal is the rabbit. | None. | + Matt's spirit animal is the turtle, so the rabbit could serve as a foil to that in a "tortoise and hare" way. + She is fast, like a rabbit.
• Sylar gave Danko a stuffed rabbit the episode before Daphne died. If Daphne was the rabbit as Matt was the turtle, then this would be foreshadowing/irony. |
| Daphne's power imparts some extra strength. | She can carry at least two grown people with her while moving at super-speed. | + She carries Matt Parkman and Ando with her to the bike messenger station in Manhattan, presumably all the way from Lawrence, KS. (Our Father)
+ She also carried Flint when she broke him out of Level Five. (Dying of the Light")
+ She visibly carried Samir Mellouk in Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, Part 1.
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| Daphne should have been stuck 16 years in the past when she rescued Hiro. | None. | + She has no known powers to travel into the future.
- According to special relativity, traveling very fast but not exceeding the speed of light will move you forward through time (the frame of reference for them would slow relative to earth's frame of reference). This part of special relativity is actually well accepted (and tested via atomic clocks). Going backwards by exceeding the speed of light is probably in reality impossible, but still theoretically plausible. Thus Daphne, Hiro, and Ando could go forwards through time by approaching the speed of light without passing it.
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| Daphne's power is similar to Hiro's and allows her to alter her personal timeframe (plus that of anything or anyone she is holding). She hasn't learned to use it unless she is running. | She is able to travel backwards and forwards in time. She moves faster than sound without a sonic boom. | + With Ando's power boost she was able to speed her timeframe to such an extent the universe's timeframe was reversed. + She also may have been able to slow her timeframe and allow 16 years to pass without experiencing it.
- The two abilities only exhibit similar effects under certain circumstances.
+ Hiro can manipulate objects in "normal time" without repercussions much the same way Daphne can snatch things at super speed without tearing them apart. |
| Daphne would be unable to activate her ability while underwater. | None. | + running underwater requires a lot of strength and it is difficult to remain close enough to the bottom to have something to push off of. - Who's that dumb to run underwater? Everybody would swim to the top.
- Daphne's speed isn't limited to running, she might be able to swim super fast as well. |
| Matt Parkman killed Daphne when they flew into space together. | Daphne's "Fly me to the moon." | + Suffering bodily damage from a dream state has been shown to cause physical bodily harm as well (such as Matt's knife wound in It's Coming), and flying to the moon would be fatal.
- Flying to the moon didn't kill Matt.
+ Her death directly followed their ascension into space.
+ It is unlikely that doctors wouldn't be nearby and instead allowing him to visit if her condition was not stable.
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| Daphne can be brought back to life if she comes into contact with Matt Jr. | None. | + Matt Jr.'s ability may be able to bring people back to life and not just objects.
- Joe Pokaski and Aron Coliete, from Behind the Eclipse Week 19: "Daphne's dead, baby. Daphne's dead."
- In the cases of characters coming back from the dead, only a few hours passed in the longest recorded time between death and resurrection (Noah Bennet in Cautionary Tales). Daphne's been dead for at least a day now, possibly longer. Were Baby Matt to revive her, we don't know if she'd come back fully alive, in a zombie or vegetative state. |
| Daphne should be able to fly by flapping her arms really fast. | None. | + Hummingbirds can fly by flapping their tiny wings at 8-10 beats per second.
- Daphne said herself that she can't run on air. |
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