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Checklist

Feel free to add to this! --SacValleyDweller (talk) 19:16, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

_X_ Guilame
_X_ Liquid man
_X_ West
_X_ Grigsby
_X_ Merideth
_X_ Hana
_X_ Dr. Strauss
_X_ Matt
_X_ Find Monica
_X_ L(test Virus on her?)
_X_ recapture the Haitain
_X_ draft Matt N
_X_ Stop Drucker and Hana
_X_ draft Donna
_X_ Manhattan Target
_X_ Levittown Target
_X_ Lewis, 1st
_X_ Lewis, Donna and Thompson jr
_X_ Fusor...
_X_ and accomplice
_X_ Observe Claire
_X_ Piper (two of them)
_X_ Bob searching out Drucker
_X_ Fusor I
_X_ Ted
_X_ Croatian
_X_ Tsunami (Miami#Out_of_Time)
_X_ Julien Dumont (Assignment Tracker)
_X_ Marcus (GN Normal lives)
___ The Big Bag and Tag (Root and Branch, Part 1)
___ Capturing the German (Berlin)
___ Capturing Peter (Four Months Ago)
___ Capturing Sylar (Homecoming)
___ Blackout patient (Blackout)
___ Eden Body dump (The Kill Squad, Part 1)
___ Madras survalence (The Kill Squad, Part 1)
___ Observe Nakamura's son (The Kill Squad, Part 1)
___ Capturing Debbie (Different and the Same)
___ Echo De Mille, Howard & Constrictor (Going Postal, Part 1)
___ Echo De Mille, Agent 1 & 2 (?) (Going Postal, Part 3)
___ Echo De Mille, Elle + Penny + Sound absorb guy (Going Postal)
___ Paulette (The Kill Squad, Part 3)
___ Cover up Guyanan local manifest (The Kill Squad, Part 3)
___ Capturing Daphne/Samir (Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, Part 1)
___ Harding & Dekker, Hong Kong (Evs Dropper's blog)
___ Harding & Dekker, Calgary (Evs Dropper's blog)
___ Messer & Rossling (Evs Dropper's blog)
___ Gael and Cruz v.s. Sylar (Dreams Until Death)
___ Capture jesse & knox (The Sting of Injustice)
___ Recapture four Level 5 escapees(One of Us, One of Them)
___ Capturing Sabine & Dumont (Root and Branch, Part 3)
___ Busting Evs Dropper (Into the Wild)
___ Securing the "Package" (Into the Wild)
___ Erasing Manuel's girlfriend's memories (Faces, Part 2)
___ Capture Santiago (Destiny, Part 2)
___ Capture Meredith & Flint (Villains)
___ Capture Danny Pine (Villains)
___ Observe Gaberial Gray (Villians)
___ Protect Claire (The Eclipse, Part 1)
___ Get the Haitian (The Eclipse, Part 1)
___ Raise Claire until she displays an ability

Implieds

  • Claude and Drucker have marks
  • Isaac's tagging may have been a mission, or self turn in.

Piper and Debbie

Debbie was taken at birth, so that's not a mission. Piper, however, had been recently bagged and tagged and that's why she was having the alien dreams. The next mission, which was accomplished, was the Haitian and Noah previously pretending to be doctors to erase Piper's memory once before. And there's also a pending mission, where the Haitian and Noah pretend again to be doctors to remove Piper's memory.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:33, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

  • Also, "Monitor Dr. Henry Strauss..." should probably be "Surveillance Dr. Henry Strauss". We should also have "Surveillance Claire Bennet", which was Elle Bishop's solo mission. We now also need to add "Bag and tag Julien Dumont", which Ivan Spektor accomplished (with Maarten?).--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:02, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
    • I'll have to reread D&S later and see. The rest of the missions you mentioned I've added and renamed to what I think sounds best--SacValleyDweller (talk) 02:34, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Need feedback!

The plan for this page is to have it in the mainspace. I need some feedback for what I have so far, especially on the issue of perspective, especially with regard to success or failure. Should this page use the perspective of a fly on the wall of each of these missions/places where they are referenced (as we are), or should it use the perspective of what the Company Knows. Right now it uses something in the middle, and I'm not sure which way to go. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 02:41, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

  • Ok, take a look at the new List of Company partnerships page. It should probably look something like that. This style is more Lostpedia-like, which is fine for a subpage but not the mainspace. Also, I can probably do a dynamic TOC for this like I just did for the partnerships page if you're interested (you removed the manual TOC I had made for you for the time being...). As for your last question, I think it should be fly-on-the-wall type, but much briefer. For instance, bag and tag Rollo Fusor; great, good description for the task...but the result can be much simpler: target was found dead. If you want the specifics, let people read the related episodes or graphic novel summaries. A lot needs to be trimmed.--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:01, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
    • Ditto what MV said. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:07, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
      • I really love the style of this to be honest, but I must admit it does not really adhere to the usual style of Heroeswiki articles, so maybe it should be cleaned up a bit like Miami said. I like the informative sections on each too, but if they are trimmed then links to where they are mentioned/seen as you have done is fine. Good work on the page! -- Friskymuffin - (talk) 13:24, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
        • Thanks, folks, for the feedback! This calls for a new approach to the project that I'll need help with! --SacValleyDweller (talk) 22:49, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Another issue that I just thought of for this is how to organize these missions. Should they be arranged as they are now: On screen/Off Screen (note, the helter skelter dating was just there to help me manage the data in the editing box)? Should they be arranged by date (in universe) or in the order aired? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 23:45, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

  • Chronological works. So does alphabetical, but chronological makes the most sense. They could be organized by order aired, which would especially help with unknown dates of missions in the past, but I think you're fine going with order of when the missions started. I would definitely not say anything about the mission being on screen or off screen since that breaks perspective. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:51, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
    • Yeah, I agree that chronological makes the most sense. I had thought SVD was just splitting them on and off-screen temporarily so that he could organize them easier. Ryan's right that the on/off-screen split is not needed. If it helps, I think we could possibly consider removing the bag and tag missions from this article, since we already have bag and tag as an article and someone else has a subpage they are working on to revise it (see here). My comments on updating the formatting apply to that page as well. We could then turn Company missions into a portal that links to List of Company bag and tag missions, and another page List of other Company missions. If there's enough surveillance missions, we can split them off from the "other" page. That way would be less work updating.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:29, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
      • OK. I'm cool with turning this into "Other company missions." I think Chris's page, though, is a personal use one. We might want to craft this page in accordance with this discussion, then apply the format to the Bag and tag page. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 01:33, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
        • Not sure whether or not it's planned only for personal use, but it is something to work with. On a related note, Ryan recently added a rename tag to promote Chris's article User:Chrisyu357/The United States of America, but he hasn't confirmed yes/no whether that would be okay. Chris hasn't made any edits since June 10th, so I'm guessing he's only around close to when the graphic novels are released.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:43, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
          • Nope, none of my page are for personal use and I'm more than happy if anyone finds my subpage useful and uses it for references. Anyway, here are some suggestions for this page: Try looking at the A-Missions page on Lostpedia - my bag n' tag page was inspired by that. Chrisyu357 04:22, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
          • I didn't add the rename tag, I only updated it. It's a good list, and follows Chris's amazing knack for details. However, I don't have any strong opinions one way or another about moving it to the main namespace--if it moves, great; if it stays where it is, that's fine too. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 09:20, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

May I suggest "Partial" instead of "Half-Accomplished"? -Lөvөl 01:25, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

New approach, Need help!

Ok, based on the feedback I got, I meed to approach this project from a new angle. I'm also going to need some help along the way. Here's my approach, with where I need help in bold:
1) More discussion above
2) Modify existing material according to feedback above:

  • Trim "Details" to reflect Miami's feedback.
  • Remove bag and tags?
  • Rearange by date vs. undated

3) New template/formating something or other made that fits our visual style uses the color scheme that I envision (red = failed, Green = success, Grey and/or blue = half success, this for a Pending or ongoing) (I'm all ears for a better one though :) )
4) After the new template/formating is done, Fill the rest of the missions in.
5) Last minute adjustments/tweaks
6) Move it to the mainspace and and tie it into the Wiki
This look good? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 23:26, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

My views

I did a lot for the mission pages on lostpedia so here is my view. I tihkn that bag and tag's should be kept. I also think that the half Accomplished missions should be orange. But overall the page is looking good. --Skywalkerrbf 15:48, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

Up for grabs!

If anyone wants to work on this to get it ready for Season 3, feel free! I might not have the time. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 00:27, 3 September 2008 (EDT)

  • This project might get too big to deal with in the winter when I'll have time. Anyone that wants to can take over the project. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 18:30, 27 September 2008 (EDT)