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== Rename discussion ==


Since people no longer pay attention to the counter-arguments left in the consensus check above, I'll summarize them here, in an attempt to restart the rename discussion process:
just merge it with Trevor's ability, and call it shattering. at the very least we should ask BTE if the two abilities are the same, or even similar. --[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]]`
#'''Crumbling''' was deemed "too close to [[crumpling]]", which was countered since [[precognition]] and [[precognitive dreaming]] are also particularly similar. The original opposer then neglected to leave a comment. Same thing happened with the arguments of the name being inaccurate, and too informal. Both these arguments were countered, and then never justified. The point is, there hasn't been a '''completely valid''' justification that invalidates this name.
*We can't call Trevor's ability shattering because no concensus was reached and Tom can't have Trevor's ability. --<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"></span>'''[[User:Elemental Manipulator|Elemental Manipulator]]'''</span> [ [[User:Elemental Manipulator|U]] | [[User_talk:Elemental Manipulator|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Elemental Manipulator|C]] ]'''</small> - <span style="color:green;">When in doubt, ask BTE </span> 05:07, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
#'''Object breakdown''' was deemed by ''one'' person to "not sound right when it is said out loud". Perhaps others might agree with this reason, but personally I think it's a bit foolish of us to reject names based on how they ''sound''; accuracy is what we've after. And to me, "object breakdown" is a completely accurate name, although others might disagree. Furthermore, I don't even think it sounds that bad.
#'''Disintegration''' was rejected by ''multiple'' people for being inaccurate, specifically because disintegration "implies that nothing is left". However, someone came along and posted the definition of "disintegration" from ''several sources'':


o Although many of you view disintegration as leaving nothing behind, by definition from several sources, "disintegration" means:
==Name==
*I was thinking of the EXACT same name, i mean EXACT. Molecular destabilization sounds like the PERFECT name. Its what I was going to put until I saw someone else put it up there.--[[User:Sylar501|Sylar501]] 17:53, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
*I think '''Molecular destabilisation''' would be a good name because it seems that the ornament has been destablised, not shattered. --<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"></span>'''[[User:Elemental Manipulator|Elemental Manipulator]]'''</span> [ [[User:Elemental Manipulator|U]] | [[User_talk:Elemental Manipulator|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Elemental Manipulator|C]] ]'''</small> - <span style="color:green;">When in doubt, ask BTE </span> 05:07, 21 April 2009 (EDT)


1. - (break into parts or components or lose cohesion or unity; "The material disintegrated"; "the group disintegrated after the leader died")(http://www.synonym.com/definition/disintegrate/)
*I'd call it '''''Resonant'' Molecular Destabilization''' because the ornament vibrated quickly before destabilizing, which could be because of a high-pitched sound that human's cannot hear, and it reaches the resonant pitch where the molecules just fall apart. --[[User:Madheroesfan|Madheroesfan]] 06:25, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
2. - 6. a gradual falling into an inferior condition (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disintegration)
**It ''could be'' due to high-pitched sound, but that is speculative. I think this would be a great place to test out [[Heroes_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Consensus_checks|Consensus check 2.0]]. Remember to only enter your name and a reason under the power name that you '''oppose'''. --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 06:36, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
3. - (as a transitive verb) 2 : to lose unity or integrity by or as if by breaking into parts (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disintegration)
***Can you guys remember to leave a space between the last sig and the next ability name? There are some blocks that almost made me miss an possible name. Also leaving links for the two names I added, please read before opposing them: [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crumbling crumbling] and [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/collapsing collapsing]. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 15:17, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
**** Personally, I like "collapsing" or "crumbling". They both sound good. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:22, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*****People, you're supposed to sign only in the names you ''don't'' support. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 11:38, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
****** I'd Called it "Molecular Dispersion" - "Disperse" means to break up, vanish, vaporise. [[User:OmniScience|OmniScience]]


:Then he warned the community not to confuse "disintegration" with "obliteration" (which was what those who rejected the name were doing), but no one responded since the excitement of naming the ability had passed. Personally I believe this is the best name for the ability. --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 21:34, 6 November 2009 (EST)
=== Consensus ===
*Agree. Disintegration is a very good name for this ability.--[[User:Ratclaws|Ratclaws]] 21:38, 6 November 2009 (EST)
<center>{{blurb|color=#FF6633}}'''!!!!! REMEMBER TO ONLY PUT YOUR NAMES ON THE SUGGESTIONS WHICH YOU OPPOSE!!!!!'''{{blurbclose}}</center><br>
**Disintegration all the way.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 21:52, 6 November 2009 (EST)
<center>If you like an idea and you put your name on it, we're going to assume you're opposed to it, and then won't you look silly? --[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 23:03, 22 April 2009 (EDT)</center>
***I concur. Disintegration is the way to go. -{{User:Vampirate68/sig}} | 23:02, 6 November 2009 (EST)
* Since there is ongoing discussion I will strike out the names that will not be used, as they have been opposed, to direct peoples attention to new names so they can be discussed rather than people missing them. --{{User:Laughingdevilboy/signature}} 07:31, 25 April 2009 (EDT)
**** I like it. Let it be disintegration. {{User:Altes/Signature}}
***** A viable name. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 08:16, 7 November 2009 (EST)
Yes let it be disintegration as you know i like moving pages so when you do change it, please send me a message and summary and i'll move it(sorry for being a bit pushy but moving pages is fun)If you don't want me to it's okay just don't send any messages about me making random statements or anything.--[[User:Jbennett338|jbennett338]] 14:11, 7 November 2009 (EST)
*I agree. Disintegration is the most accurate description of this ability.--[[User:D and d 123|D and d 123]] 11:27, 29 April 2010 (EDT)
*It has been a day, with no objections raised to the name. Can it be changed now?--[[User:Ratclaws|Ratclaws]] 21:21, 7 November 2009 (EST)
**Did we even have a legit consensus? -{{User:Vampirate68/sig}} | 21:26, 7 November 2009 (EST)
***I asked Ryan because we have as much info about this ability as we do Trevor's. I just wanna be sure it is ok to. I know we have no objections, but still, good to have administrator input.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 21:29, 7 November 2009 (EST)
****This seems viable, everyone is in agreement. There is consensus here - {{User:Jenx222/sig2}} 04:31, 8 November 2009 (EST)
*****I agree, [[User:Danko/Disintegration|I've always liked this name]] --{{User:Danko/Signature}} 10:47, 8 November 2009 (EST)
******Also agree. It is disintegrated. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 10:49, 8 November 2009 (EST)
*******ya I thought that it was a bad fit at first when I read the sudjestion but then I looked up the word and it seems to fit perfectly 11:14 8 November 2009
* I was asked to put my input on this page again. I'm pretty much in favor of most of the names I've heard: "crumbling", "collapsing", "disintegration"...these all sound fine to me. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:28, 8 November 2009 (EST)
*So are we all happy to move it to disintegration? - {{User:Jenx222/sig2}} 18:09, 8 November 2009 (EST)
**10 votes I think and no objections...I'd say so.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 18:30, 8 November 2009 (EST)


Yatta! Tom's ability is finally and officially disintegrated! {{User:Altes/Signature}}
<s>Merge with [[Trevor's ability]]</s>
*Sound effects and other cues distinguish it from Trevor's ability; I highly doubt it's the same ability. {{User:Thrashmeister/Autosig}} 07:36, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed, Tom cannot have ''Trevor's'' ability. --<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"></span>'''[[User:Elemental Manipulator|Elemental Manipulator]]'''</span> [ [[User:Elemental Manipulator|U]] | [[User_talk:Elemental Manipulator|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Elemental Manipulator|C]] ]'''</small> - <span style="color:green;">When in doubt, ask BTE </span> 07:52, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Too speculative. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 08:57, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Not the same --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 11:51, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed, not the same, different effects. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 15:17, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
* Opposed -- Trevor makes things shatter, tom make things "Fragment" --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 16:31, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed, Trevor appeared to use outside force to shatter the glass, where as Tom destroyed the doll seemingly from the inside --[[User:Crazyaspie|Crazyaspie]] 16:11, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
* If Sylar never used the ability the "first" time, why would he go after it again? Different abilities. -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 06:20, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
* They don't act the same at all. --[[User:Ikkian|Ikkian]] 19:45, 23 April 2009 (EDT)


==Hey Me Again!==
<s>Molecular destabilization</s>
*Incredibly speculative. {{User:Thrashmeister/Autosig}} 07:36, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*The ornament just broke into pieces, not into molecules. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 08:57, 21
*Too speculative. --[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 10:25, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*--[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 11:51, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
* NO! Just no! --[[User:Isaac Mendez|Isaac Mendez]] 14:22, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed, too speculative. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 15:17, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Agreed, too speculative. --[[User:Crazyaspie|Crazyaspie]] 16:11, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
*Speculate much? -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 06:20, 23 April 2009 (EDT)


User:Shadowulf1 14:02, 13 November 2009 (EST) Don't worry, I'm not here to be controversial, the name is great; bout time y'all named it! But don't you find it a bit troublesome to keep Disintegration and Disintegration Touch (which should really be called ''Disintegrating'' Touch) separate? I think you should put [[Felicia]]'s ability on this page too, and simply say that disintegration can be manifested as the way ''Tom'' does it (a motion of the hands) or the way ''Felicia'' does it (a disintegrating energy manifested through the hands)...
<s>Resonant molecular destabilization</s>
*Problem with that is...we don't actually know what Disintegration Touch does, so far all we know is that she has an orange glow around her hand. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 14:04, 13 November 2009 (EST)
*Incredibly speculative. {{User:Thrashmeister/Autosig}} 07:36, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
** Plus, in ''[[Career Choices]]'', [[Felicia]] says she has a "disintegration touch". -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 14:07, 13 November 2009 (EST)
*The same as above. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 08:57, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*** You guys named it instead of someone stupid saying "w3l it k4nt b cald dis3ntygrat1n cause its a dumb name" and someone taking them seriously and creating a big debate!!! YAY!!!!!!--[[User:Uncanny474|Uncanny474]] 15:49, 16 November 2009 (EST)
*Too long and speculative. --[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 10:25, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*--[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 11:51, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed, same reasons as Piemanmoo. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 15:17, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed, a bit over complex. I like names that new viewers would easily understand such as shattering [[User:Bosco13|Bosco13]] 15:42, 22 April 2009 (GMT).
*Opposed, too speculative. --[[User:Crazyaspie|Crazyaspie]] 16:11, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
*Again, speculative. -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 06:20, 23 April 2009 (EDT)


== Omnipotence ==
<s>Shattering</s>
*I say it fits better for [[Trevor's ability]]. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 08:57, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*This isn't what happened. --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 11:51, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed. Doesn't look much like shattering to me. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 15:17, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed, the items do not shatter, shatter suggests to break apart with force, these fragment/collapse --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 16:31, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Agreed. I think it should be merged with Trevors ability and be renamed shattering. [[User:Bosco13|Bosco13]] 15:42, 22 April 2009 (GMT).
*Agreed, the doll imploded --[[User:Crazyaspie|Crazyaspie]] 16:11, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
*Agreed. -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 06:20, 23 April 2009 (EDT)


Although many people seem to think that Sylar can now snap his fingers and make someone breakdown into a thousand pieces, I'd just like to point out that we only saw the ability used on a 3 inch high figurine. Sure, Tom ''thought'' he could break down Sylar, but we don't know whether this is true or not. For all we know, he might only be able to "disintegrate" someone if they were standing still, or three inches tall, or ceramic, or if it was tuesday, or whatever. Furthermore, I'm not sure why we were able to name this ability if we only saw him use it on a ceramic figure, but we couldn't name Trevor's ability because he only used it on glass. Sure, Tom ''implied'' he could break down Sylar, but Trevor actually tried to use his ability on Sylar, which implies the same thing. Just thinking out loud I suppose.--[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP|Need further explanation?]] 19:06, 24 December 2009 (EST)
<s>Disintegration</s>
*Neither the angel nor the glasses were disintegrated.--[[User:Laudo|Laudo]] 08:56, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Agreed. --[[User:Cro Magnon|Cro Magnon]] 09:50, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed, no disintegration. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 15:17, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed -- disentergration seems to suggest nothing is left behind, or if something an ash/cinder counterpart --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 16:31, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Agreed, it appeared to be more of an implosion --[[User:Crazyaspie|Crazyaspie]] 16:11, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
*Definitely didn't disintergrate. -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 06:20, 23 April 2009 (EDT)


== Double name change ==
<s>Matter obliteration</s>
*The matter in question wasn't ''obliterated'' completely... it was fragmented. {{User:Thrashmeister/Autosig}} 07:36, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed, same reason as Thrashmeister. --<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"></span>'''[[User:Elemental Manipulator|Elemental Manipulator]]'''</span> [ [[User:Elemental Manipulator|U]] | [[User_talk:Elemental Manipulator|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Elemental Manipulator|C]] ]'''</small> - <span style="color:green;">When in doubt, ask BTE </span> 07:52, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*The same. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 08:57, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Ditto. --[[User:Cro Magnon|Cro Magnon]] 09:50, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Obliteration would mean it nearly ceases to exist, all this did was make it crumble into pieces.--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 10:25, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Ditto --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 11:51, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed, there was no obliteration. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 15:17, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed, obliteration suggest forcefully exploding --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 16:31, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Agreed. --[[User:Crazyaspie|Crazyaspie]] 16:11, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
*Pieces still exist. Not obliterated. -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 06:20, 23 April 2009 (EDT)


There is some discussion on the [[Talk:Gordon's ability|talk page]] for [[Gordon's ability]], trying to give it a name, and one such name is "disintegration". As is obvious, Tom's ability and Gordon's ability are very different. However, Gordon's ability seems to align with many classical definitions of disintegration, whereas Tom's ability is not exactly a disintegration. I would like to propose a name change for Tom's ability. My own suggestion would be '''crumbling''', but obviously there is lots of room for discussion. Thoughts? --[[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] ([[User talk:Ricard Desi|t]],[[Special:Contributions/Ricard Desi|c]]) 16:23, 7 January 2010 (EST)
<s>Telekinetic Disintegration</s>
*Ideally, this should be renamed Tom's ability because all we saw him do was shatter a ceramic figure (see above statement). However, I doubt anyone is going to go for that, so I'm fine with crumbling as a name.--[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP|Need further explanation?]] 16:29, 7 January 2010 (EST)
*Incredibly speculative. {{User:Thrashmeister/Autosig}} 12:24, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*'''Nothing''' suggests he's telekinetic. And if it is related to telekinesis, Sylar would be able to do it already. Also incredibly speculative, as put by Thrashmeister. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 15:17, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
**As you can all see some sections above, I suggested crumbling when this ability first appeared. I have yet to see a good argument against this name. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 07:28, 9 January 2010 (EST)
***I've noticed that definitions seem to do a good job of convincing people, and the defintions I found for "crumbling" are "break or fall apart into small fragments, cause (something) to break apart into small fragments, disintegrate gradually over a period of time". So crumbling may be an appropriate name. Disintergration may have been chosen simply because it's "cooler".--[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP|Need further explanation?]] 13:20, 9 January 2010 (EST)
* Ditto --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 16:31, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*My problem is that a writer told us that Gordon's ability was to turn things into sand. I don't see why it's so difficult to come up with a name that says he turns things into sand. To me, Disintegration wouldn't be appropriate for Gordon's ability.--[[User:OutbackZack|OutbackZack]] 14:45, 9 January 2010 (EST)
*Agreed --[[User:Crazyaspie|Crazyaspie]] 16:11, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
**Actually I take that back since I took a moment to look at the definition of Disintegration. I'm for the double name change now. --[[User:OutbackZack|OutbackZack]] 14:48, 9 January 2010 (EST)
*Has nothing to do with TK --[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 23:03, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
*** Which definition are you looking at? I don't see one that mentions sand. Also, it should be noted that there was somewhat of a poll above and that is why the name being used for Tom's ability is currently 'disintegration'. I don't see this changing unless there is some new information presented.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 00:54, 17 January 2010 (EST)
*If we would use this, then why not just [[telekinesis]]? NO. - {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 06:20, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
==Moved from Gordon's ability talk page==
Tom broke down a ceramic figure into bits, we don't actually know whether it would do the same on a person, even if he threatened Sylar. We didn't call Trevor's ability "shattering" because it isn't reasonable to believe that Sylar could shatter into bits like the glass did, so why is it more believable that Tom could "disintegrate" Sylar? Also, as Richard said (see [[Talk:Gordon's ability#Name?]]), there are other definitions of disintegrate.--[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP|Need further explanation?]] 22:10, 16 January 2010 (EST)
* It makes more sense for things in general to be disintegrated than it is for flesh to be shattered. The only way flesh shatters is when it is frozen, as Tracy showed us. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 22:16, 16 January 2010 (EST)
** My point was that we only saw Tom use his power on a ceramic figure, yet now that it's called disintegration everyone seems to assume Sylar can snap his fingers and turn someone into dust. We have no way of knowing whether that's true or not. "Shatter" is defined as "break or cause to break suddenly and violently into pieces", so why does it make more sense for something to fall into pieces gently rather then violently?--[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP|Need further explanation?]] 22:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)
* I just copied the above discussion from Talk:Gordon's ability, as I think it applies more here. I agree that we don't know whether Sylar/Tom could use the ability on organic matter, and the content of the 'Disintegration' article states that... But with regards of the analogy to Trevor's ability, I think PJDEP is off base. We came up with "glass breaking" cause "I can break glasses" was used to describe Trevor's ability, but it would be hard to call the ability "glass breaking" since it appears it could be used on people, which are not made of glass. We later got a BTE comment that Trevor's ability was “pointing your finger and making glasses explode.” So shattering remained a possible name among others, but we were not able to agree on a single name (this was before we began using opposition instead of favoritism and polls if there was more than one valid name).--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 00:54, 17 January 2010 (EST)


== Reasons for Disintegration ==
<s>Crumbling</s>
*Too close to Crumpling, and not really an apt description.--[[User:Laudo|Laudo]] 16:14, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
**We have precognition and precognitive dreaming. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:53, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Again, they don't really crumble, crumble is being broken off into small pieces, the whole thing crumbles though --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 16:31, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
**From the link I gave above: "Crumbling: transitive verb-to break into small pieces; intransitive verb-to fall into small pieces or to break down completely." [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:53, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Too casual/informal/both. -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 06:20, 23 April 2009 (EDT)


"Disintegration" more accurately describes the ability than "crumbling." Also, "crumbling" would easily be confused with [[crumpling]].--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 16:17, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
<s>Collapsing</s>
*I disagree. If you look closely at what happens to the ceramic figure, it does appear to crumble into chunks moreso than disintegrate into dust. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 16:41, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
*The word 'collapsing' seems to indicate that the action is reversible.--[[User:Laudo|Laudo]] 16:14, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
**Definition of disintegration: "to separate into parts or lose intactness or solidness; break up; deteriorate"<br />
**From the link I gave above: "Collapsing: intransitive verb-to break down completely." [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:53, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
***Definition of "crumble": "To fall apart; to disintegrate; to render into crumbs". --'''[[User:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 16:57, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
*Collapse is something the object would do on it's own. -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 06:20, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
Also, "crumbling" would still be confused with "crumpling."--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 16:44, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

*We have "precognition" and "precognitive dreaming". And "healing" and "healing touch". And (currently) "disintegration" and "disintegration touch". Similarity of power names should not be an issue. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 16:56, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
<s>Fragmentation</s>
**Bah, who cares? Nothing can beat [[User:Boycool42/Nihilokinesis|Nihilokinesis]]!--''<small>[[User:Boycool42|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 17:26, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
*Too wide, could mean he can break things apart without being in small pieces. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:53, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*Agreed, we need to be more specific until the powers are shown more --[[User:Crazyaspie|Crazyaspie]] 16:11, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
***Sidenote: As a superpower name, "crumbling" sucks. --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 17:18, 16 April 2010 (EDT)
****Methinks it doesn't. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 22:21, 16 April 2010 (EDT)
*Agreed. -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 06:20, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
*****Methinks it infact do. --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 07:06, 24 May 2010 (EDT)

******Why so? It describes the ability perfectly. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:14, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
<s>Object destablisation</s>
*******Well reason #1 (that doesn't really count) is that "disintegration" sounds more superpower-like. Reason #2 is that disintegration accurately describes the ability, and "crumbling" is unnecessary. --{{User:Boycool42/sig1}} 22:05, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
*Opposed, too vague. --[[User:Egrethico|Ego]] 20:28, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
*Opposed, same as above. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:34, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
********Disintegration is a bit ambiguous. Does it mean it simply breaks stuff, or does it really disintegrate things, as if it atomized it? To crumble is to fall apart, which is exactly what happened. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 19:13, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
*Sounds too weird. If I lean too far back on my chair it becomes destablized, but it doesn't splinter into little pieces.--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 23:03, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
*Speculative. -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 06:20, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

<s>Fracturing</s>
*Opposed, doesn't really describe the effect. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:34, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
*Ditto. -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 06:20, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

<s>Vibration control</s>
* I don't think this name is accurate. Tom used vibrations to destroy an object, but I wouldn't say that he controls vibrations. Likewise, Nathan may use air pressure to fly, or Linderman might use the body's natural systems to heal people, but we wouldn't call their abilities "air pressure control" or "body system manipulation". This just doesn't sit right with me... -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:37, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
* Same as Ryan. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 13:44, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

<s>Sedimentation</s>
* How about that?--[[User:Cairoi|Cairoi]] 16:28, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
* Opposed, sedimentation is a process in which minerals are deposited over an area. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 18:22, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

<s>Sonic disintegration</s>
* Opposed, same reasons as disintergration is. The object isnt disintergrated. --[[User:345tom|345tom]] 08:41, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

Demolition/Demolishing?

vibrational breakdown

vibrational destruction

==moved dissent discussion involving opposition to '''Tom's ability''' naming convention ==
* (To not generate discussion within the consensus-check items, I've pulled the following two replies out of the above list. I don't think we want to hold arguements over names within the consensus checks themselves; but rather, just list our opposition to the names in the list we are opposed to.) <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 04/22/2009 13:21 (EST)</small>
** A name can't be opposed because you don't like it, or because another name is better. The name can only be opposed if the name is deemed incorrect. "Tom's ability" is an accurate name for this ability. There are others which are better, but opposing a name because others are better is simply not how it's done. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:54, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*** Tom's ability is incorrect, when there are sufficient attributes, characteristics, and details provided about an ability to name it based on those attributes. The only time XXX's ability should be used, is a temporary placeholder where the ability is either barely or vaguely used in such a way that it is yet un-namable. The ability that Tom presented was very clear; the only problem we have, is agreeing to one of several acceptible and equivalently suitable names. Tom's ability is incorrect, because of the amount of details we have been shown concerning this ability. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 04/22/2009 13:18 (EST)</small>
**** No, "Tom's ability" is never incorrect. This ability is definitely Tom's ability. It might not be the best name, but it's not an incorrect name. Having details about the ability does not change whether this name is correct or incorrect. In fact, "Tom's ability" is the only name that is neither too broad nor too narrow. I agree with you, it's not the best name, but it's not incorrect. One of the tenets of the new consensus check system is that only absolutely incorrect names should be objected, not just names you don't like. In the end, if everybody follows the consensus check correctly, there would be several names left over, and we would make a choice from there. "Tom's ability" is always valid. Not ideal, but valid. Any opposition to that name will be ignored. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:41, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== Gesture ==

When Tom uses this ability, does he makes the same hand gesture as Trevor? [[User:NuparuMahnika|<font color="LightSeaGreen">'''''NuparuMahnika'''''</font>]]
* Nope, Trevor held his hand like a gun. Why, I have a name - '''Gun mimicry'''!))) -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 08:49, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
**Linderman never kissed people when healing them, but Ishi did. Gestures seem to be more of a personal preference rather than a required aspect. --[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 10:25, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
*** Well, apart from kiss, there were no other effects. I always expected that healing should be going with some sort of light, but it never did. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 11:08, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
**** Then what gesture did Tom did then? [[User:NuparuMahnika|<font color="LightSeaGreen">'''''NuparuMahnika'''''</font>]]
*****Like when you hold your thumb and the next finger together to make an O shape.--[[User:Fr0z3nB0nes|Fr0z3nB0nes]] 13:18, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== Object Disentergration ==

That's what I thought of when I first saw the ability.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 18:15, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

==Video==

Is anyone able to upload the video of Tom's ability on YouTube? --[[User:Ikkian|Ikkian]] 19:51, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

== Tom's ability = Trevor's ability? ==

It seems to me that both powers are very nearly the same. The hand gestures are different, and the looks of the "shattering" aren't quite the same, but is that any different from the red flame/blue flame difference between [[Meredith]] and [[Flint]]? That brings up a related thought: can two people share a "So and So" ability?--[[User:Cro Magnon|Cro Magnon]] 10:59, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

I would agree with you. Knox's strength and Niki's strength were also listed under the same page despite having different attributes- Niki's is more or less constant, Knox needs people to be afraid. The difference between Tom's and Trevor's ability seems much less then that between [[Niki]] and [[Knox]], or Sylar's telekinesis and [[Misha]]'s (Misha's eyes glow blue when he uses telekinesis, Sylar's do not). The powers are close enough to be listed as different executions of the same power, not two distinct powers.[[User:Swmystery|Swmystery]] 9:16, 23 April 2009 (GMT)

==sonic disintegration?==
I was thinking sonic disintegration, because the object didnt disintegrate until tom clicked his fingers...so im thinking maybe the sound of that causes the effect, also it vibrated slightly before hand thats why im thinking sonic?
--[[user:petrelli|petrelli]] 20:53 ,22nd April 2009.
*Probably related to vibration, and no need for the block bolding and italizing. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:00, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
**My guess was in relation to ultrasound waves. I watched that part again today and there were high-pitched sounds for a while before he snapped his fingers. There has to be a correlation.--[[User:Ikkian|Ikkian]] 17:10, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

==Fracturing?==
The one fact about what we saw is that the item broke apart into many pieces. To fracture something is to physically break it. Tom's ability broke the item into many pieces. How the power did it is unknown, but the basic fact is the item was broken by Tom's ability. Whatever the actual power turns out to be, the result of it appears to be the complete fracturing of the figurine into pieces. --[[User:Egrethico|Ego]] 20:47, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
*I think fracting is a bit too open for it, there are countless descriptions to what he did, finding ''the'' best description is what's tough. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:51, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
**I see your point. It's easy to open the thesarus and pick a word that seems to fit, but it's got to describe it as best as it can. However, we have to go off of what we know for sure, and that is that the figurine fell apart into pieces. I would say if not fracturing then crumbling. Crumbling fits more since the pieces appeared to just fall apart, like crumbs. --[[User:Egrethico|Ego]] 21:13, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
***I've added crumbling and collapsing to the options a while ago. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 21:19, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
****I saw that you included it already, thanks. I was just supporting crumbling as probably the best option so far for describing what we actually saw. Fracturing does not fit as well after thinking about it more. Whatever caused the 'crumbling' effect is beyond me though.

== Combine then rename ==
I think this article should be combined with [[Trevor's ability]], then renamed. [[User:NuparuMahnika|<font color="LightSeaGreen">'''''NuparuMahnika'''''</font>]]
* I don't. I don't think we know enough about either one to say that they're the same ability. Similar, but I'm not convinced they're the same. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:34, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
** I really don't think they should, either. Trevor's ability seemed to me like kinetic energy projection, while Tom's one seems like ultrasound projection. Not the same at all. --[[User:Ikkian|Ikkian]] 15:36, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
***The [[Trevor's ability]] name debate has gone on for a while (and probably won't get changed) and I don't think an ability that [[Tom's ability|is kind of but not really the same]] is enough merit to make a quick decision on the matter. --<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"></span>'''[[User:Elemental Manipulator|Elemental Manipulator]]'''</span> [ [[User:Elemental Manipulator|U]] | [[User_talk:Elemental Manipulator|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Elemental Manipulator|C]] ]'''</small> - <span style="color:green;">When in doubt, ask BTE </span> 19:55, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

== induced disintegration ==

Anyone? --[[User:Tsmarg|Tsmarg]]

== Naming The Ability ==

Surely, as it seems, we can describe the ability and lets face it, that's better than "Tom's Ability". We should try to find a suitable name that descibes it just now and change it so we don't have to look at his name", I just hate that. I mean, what if another person came along and had that same ability, would we call it "Tom and X's Ability or still "Tom's Ability"?

Latest revision as of 23:13, 26 May 2010

Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources Episodes
2. Near-canon Sources Webisodes,
Graphic Novels,
iStories,
Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources Episode commentary,
Interviews,
Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities
 Descriptions
6. Possessor's name If no non-speculative
description is possible
Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine disintegration's name.
Source/Explanation
"Disintegration" describes what Tom is able to do.
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May 2009-Oct 2009 [[Talk:Disintegration/Archive 2#

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Rename discussion

Since people no longer pay attention to the counter-arguments left in the consensus check above, I'll summarize them here, in an attempt to restart the rename discussion process:

  1. Crumbling was deemed "too close to crumpling", which was countered since precognition and precognitive dreaming are also particularly similar. The original opposer then neglected to leave a comment. Same thing happened with the arguments of the name being inaccurate, and too informal. Both these arguments were countered, and then never justified. The point is, there hasn't been a completely valid justification that invalidates this name.
  2. Object breakdown was deemed by one person to "not sound right when it is said out loud". Perhaps others might agree with this reason, but personally I think it's a bit foolish of us to reject names based on how they sound; accuracy is what we've after. And to me, "object breakdown" is a completely accurate name, although others might disagree. Furthermore, I don't even think it sounds that bad.
  3. Disintegration was rejected by multiple people for being inaccurate, specifically because disintegration "implies that nothing is left". However, someone came along and posted the definition of "disintegration" from several sources:
o Although many of you view disintegration as leaving nothing behind, by definition from several sources, "disintegration" means: 

  1. - (break into parts or components or lose cohesion or unity; "The material disintegrated"; "the group disintegrated after the leader died")(http://www.synonym.com/definition/disintegrate/)
  2. - 6. a gradual falling into an inferior condition (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disintegration)
  3. - (as a transitive verb) 2  : to lose unity or integrity by or as if by breaking into parts (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disintegration)
Then he warned the community not to confuse "disintegration" with "obliteration" (which was what those who rejected the name were doing), but no one responded since the excitement of naming the ability had passed. Personally I believe this is the best name for the ability. --Radicell 21:34, 6 November 2009 (EST)

Yes let it be disintegration as you know i like moving pages so when you do change it, please send me a message and summary and i'll move it(sorry for being a bit pushy but moving pages is fun)If you don't want me to it's okay just don't send any messages about me making random statements or anything.--jbennett338 14:11, 7 November 2009 (EST)

  • I agree. Disintegration is the most accurate description of this ability.--D and d 123 11:27, 29 April 2010 (EDT)
  • It has been a day, with no objections raised to the name. Can it be changed now?--Ratclaws 21:21, 7 November 2009 (EST)
    • Did we even have a legit consensus? -Vampirate68 | Talk | Contribs | 21:26, 7 November 2009 (EST)
      • I asked Ryan because we have as much info about this ability as we do Trevor's. I just wanna be sure it is ok to. I know we have no objections, but still, good to have administrator input.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 21:29, 7 November 2009 (EST)
        • This seems viable, everyone is in agreement. There is consensus here - Jenx222 | U / T / C 04:31, 8 November 2009 (EST)
          • I agree, I've always liked this name -- By Danko CH 10:47, 8 November 2009 (EST)
            • Also agree. It is disintegrated. --mc_hammark 10:49, 8 November 2009 (EST)
              • ya I thought that it was a bad fit at first when I read the sudjestion but then I looked up the word and it seems to fit perfectly 11:14 8 November 2009
  • I was asked to put my input on this page again. I'm pretty much in favor of most of the names I've heard: "crumbling", "collapsing", "disintegration"...these all sound fine to me. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:28, 8 November 2009 (EST)
  • So are we all happy to move it to disintegration? - Jenx222 | U / T / C 18:09, 8 November 2009 (EST)
    • 10 votes I think and no objections...I'd say so.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 18:30, 8 November 2009 (EST)

Yatta! Tom's ability is finally and officially disintegrated! AltesUTC CH

Hey Me Again!

User:Shadowulf1 14:02, 13 November 2009 (EST) Don't worry, I'm not here to be controversial, the name is great; bout time y'all named it! But don't you find it a bit troublesome to keep Disintegration and Disintegration Touch (which should really be called Disintegrating Touch) separate? I think you should put Felicia's ability on this page too, and simply say that disintegration can be manifested as the way Tom does it (a motion of the hands) or the way Felicia does it (a disintegrating energy manifested through the hands)...

  • Problem with that is...we don't actually know what Disintegration Touch does, so far all we know is that she has an orange glow around her hand. --mc_hammark 14:04, 13 November 2009 (EST)
    • Plus, in Career Choices, Felicia says she has a "disintegration touch". -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:07, 13 November 2009 (EST)
      • You guys named it instead of someone stupid saying "w3l it k4nt b cald dis3ntygrat1n cause its a dumb name" and someone taking them seriously and creating a big debate!!! YAY!!!!!!--Uncanny474 15:49, 16 November 2009 (EST)

Omnipotence

Although many people seem to think that Sylar can now snap his fingers and make someone breakdown into a thousand pieces, I'd just like to point out that we only saw the ability used on a 3 inch high figurine. Sure, Tom thought he could break down Sylar, but we don't know whether this is true or not. For all we know, he might only be able to "disintegrate" someone if they were standing still, or three inches tall, or ceramic, or if it was tuesday, or whatever. Furthermore, I'm not sure why we were able to name this ability if we only saw him use it on a ceramic figure, but we couldn't name Trevor's ability because he only used it on glass. Sure, Tom implied he could break down Sylar, but Trevor actually tried to use his ability on Sylar, which implies the same thing. Just thinking out loud I suppose.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 19:06, 24 December 2009 (EST)

Double name change

There is some discussion on the talk page for Gordon's ability, trying to give it a name, and one such name is "disintegration". As is obvious, Tom's ability and Gordon's ability are very different. However, Gordon's ability seems to align with many classical definitions of disintegration, whereas Tom's ability is not exactly a disintegration. I would like to propose a name change for Tom's ability. My own suggestion would be crumbling, but obviously there is lots of room for discussion. Thoughts? --Ricard Desi (t,c) 16:23, 7 January 2010 (EST)

  • Ideally, this should be renamed Tom's ability because all we saw him do was shatter a ceramic figure (see above statement). However, I doubt anyone is going to go for that, so I'm fine with crumbling as a name.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 16:29, 7 January 2010 (EST)
    • As you can all see some sections above, I suggested crumbling when this ability first appeared. I have yet to see a good argument against this name. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 07:28, 9 January 2010 (EST)
      • I've noticed that definitions seem to do a good job of convincing people, and the defintions I found for "crumbling" are "break or fall apart into small fragments, cause (something) to break apart into small fragments, disintegrate gradually over a period of time". So crumbling may be an appropriate name. Disintergration may have been chosen simply because it's "cooler".--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 13:20, 9 January 2010 (EST)
  • My problem is that a writer told us that Gordon's ability was to turn things into sand. I don't see why it's so difficult to come up with a name that says he turns things into sand. To me, Disintegration wouldn't be appropriate for Gordon's ability.--OutbackZack 14:45, 9 January 2010 (EST)
    • Actually I take that back since I took a moment to look at the definition of Disintegration. I'm for the double name change now. --OutbackZack 14:48, 9 January 2010 (EST)
      • Which definition are you looking at? I don't see one that mentions sand. Also, it should be noted that there was somewhat of a poll above and that is why the name being used for Tom's ability is currently 'disintegration'. I don't see this changing unless there is some new information presented.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:54, 17 January 2010 (EST)

Moved from Gordon's ability talk page

Tom broke down a ceramic figure into bits, we don't actually know whether it would do the same on a person, even if he threatened Sylar. We didn't call Trevor's ability "shattering" because it isn't reasonable to believe that Sylar could shatter into bits like the glass did, so why is it more believable that Tom could "disintegrate" Sylar? Also, as Richard said (see Talk:Gordon's ability#Name?), there are other definitions of disintegrate.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 22:10, 16 January 2010 (EST)

  • It makes more sense for things in general to be disintegrated than it is for flesh to be shattered. The only way flesh shatters is when it is frozen, as Tracy showed us. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 22:16, 16 January 2010 (EST)
    • My point was that we only saw Tom use his power on a ceramic figure, yet now that it's called disintegration everyone seems to assume Sylar can snap his fingers and turn someone into dust. We have no way of knowing whether that's true or not. "Shatter" is defined as "break or cause to break suddenly and violently into pieces", so why does it make more sense for something to fall into pieces gently rather then violently?--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 22:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)
  • I just copied the above discussion from Talk:Gordon's ability, as I think it applies more here. I agree that we don't know whether Sylar/Tom could use the ability on organic matter, and the content of the 'Disintegration' article states that... But with regards of the analogy to Trevor's ability, I think PJDEP is off base. We came up with "glass breaking" cause "I can break glasses" was used to describe Trevor's ability, but it would be hard to call the ability "glass breaking" since it appears it could be used on people, which are not made of glass. We later got a BTE comment that Trevor's ability was “pointing your finger and making glasses explode.” So shattering remained a possible name among others, but we were not able to agree on a single name (this was before we began using opposition instead of favoritism and polls if there was more than one valid name).--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:54, 17 January 2010 (EST)

Reasons for Disintegration

"Disintegration" more accurately describes the ability than "crumbling." Also, "crumbling" would easily be confused with crumpling.--Boycool42 16:17, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

  • I disagree. If you look closely at what happens to the ceramic figure, it does appear to crumble into chunks moreso than disintegrate into dust. --Ricard Desi 16:41, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
    • Definition of disintegration: "to separate into parts or lose intactness or solidness; break up; deteriorate"
      • Definition of "crumble": "To fall apart; to disintegrate; to render into crumbs". --Ricard Desi 16:57, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

Also, "crumbling" would still be confused with "crumpling."--Boycool42 16:44, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

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