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{{plus}} If the carnies find out that Samuel sees them as little more than glorified batteries, they might form a mob and lynch him.<br /> |
{{plus}} If the carnies find out that Samuel sees them as little more than glorified batteries, they might form a mob and lynch him.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} A mob of carnies surrounding Samuel would only give him more power, allowing him to kill or further manipulate them.<br /> |
:{{minus}} A mob of carnies surrounding Samuel would only give him more power, allowing him to kill or further manipulate them.<br /> |
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::{{note}} The power to [[Terrakinesis|control dirt and other minerals]] would allow Samuel to intimidate a mob of angry specials, not manipulate them.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} As shown in ''[[Brother's Keeper]]'', the more specials around Samuel the more powerful he becomes. If they are throughly scared and intimidated, they would presumably do whatever he asked.<br /> |
:::{{minus}} As shown in ''[[Brother's Keeper]]'', the more specials around Samuel the more powerful he becomes. If they are throughly scared and intimidated, they would presumably do whatever he asked.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Samuel won't be able to protect himself from powers like [[telekinesis]], [[super speed]], [[spontaneous combustion]] or [[puppet master]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} Samuel blackmails the [[Bowman]]s (''[[ |
{{plus}} Samuel blackmails the [[Bowman]]s (''[[Smoke & Mirrors]]''), and in an alternate ending of iStory he kills [[Chris]]. The Bowmans may rise against him.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Samuel is more than powerful enough to defeat two people and their small child, even if they do possess an [[fire breathing|ability]].<br/> |
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| Samuel wants [[Peter]] to regain [[empathic mimicry]]. || Doesn't mean it's possible, though. || {{plus}} [[Lydia]] said Samuel tries to fill the void of [[Joseph]]'s death. It was implied that Samuel wants to fill it with Peter, whom he seems to be very interested in.<br /> |
| Samuel wants [[Peter]] to regain [[empathic mimicry]]. || Doesn't mean it's possible, though. || {{plus}} [[Lydia]] said Samuel tries to fill the void of [[Joseph]]'s death. It was implied that Samuel wants to fill it with Peter, whom he seems to be very interested in.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Lydia notes that the carnival has obtained many new "family members" recently, more so than is typical (something she is concerned that Joseph would not have approved of). <br /> |
{{plus}} Lydia notes that the carnival has obtained many new "family members" recently, more so than is typical (something she is concerned that Joseph would not have approved of). <br /> |
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{{minus}} Micah wants to help people, not for them becoming evil, so he wouldn't send them to the carnival.<br /> |
{{minus}} Micah wants to help people, not for them becoming evil, so he wouldn't send them to the carnival.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Micah isn't omniscient, and there is no proof the carnival itself is evil. Only Samuel has displayed evil. Besides the theory says Micah and [[Leona]]. Leona may be linked to the carnival.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} If Samuel had been met by members of Rebel, he would have either bamboozled them into staying or destroyed their lives until joining his 'family' seemed like the only option.<br /> |
::{{minus}} If Samuel had been met by members of Rebel, he would have either bamboozled them into staying or destroyed their lives until joining his 'family' seemed like the only option.<br /> |
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:::{{plus}} Samuel's path of deception may not have begun until after Danko went vigilante and killed Joseph after the disbanding of Building 26. Alternatively, while Building 26 was still active, he may have felt that Rebel was more important out in the field saving evolved humans rather than with him at the carnival.<br /> |
:::{{plus}} Samuel's path of deception may not have begun until after Danko went vigilante and killed Joseph after the disbanding of Building 26. Alternatively, while Building 26 was still active, he may have felt that Rebel was more important out in the field saving evolved humans rather than with him at the carnival.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Also, if Gabriel found out about what Samuel's been doing to recruit new family members, he might take Samuel on for moral reasons.<br /> |
{{plus}} Also, if Gabriel found out about what Samuel's been doing to recruit new family members, he might take Samuel on for moral reasons.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Samuel needs Sylar to magnify his power, and even Sylar isn't powerful enough to take down Samuel.<br /> |
{{minus}} Samuel needs Sylar to magnify his power, and even Sylar isn't powerful enough to take down Samuel.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} [[Telekinesis|Yes]] [[Disintegration|he]] [[Rapid cell regeneration|is]].<br /> |
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| Samuel will find [[Ando]], who will supercharge his ability, causing the Earth to split in half. || None || {{plus}} It would be the ultimate evil action to do as a villain.<br /> |
| Samuel will find [[Ando]], who will supercharge his ability, causing the Earth to split in half. || None || {{plus}} It would be the ultimate evil action to do as a villain.<br /> |
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{{plus}} It would make sense why he gets stronger only near people with abilities.<br /> |
{{plus}} It would make sense why he gets stronger only near people with abilities.<br /> |
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| Samuel's ability could be an ability related to empathic mimicry. || None || {{plus}} Similar to the way that Peter's DNA filled in like a mosaic to replicate abilities |
| Samuel's ability could be an ability related to empathic mimicry. || None || {{plus}} Similar to the way that Peter's DNA filled in like a mosaic to replicate abilities, Samuel's DNA may do something similar after being exposed to individuals with abilities. However, instead of acquiring more abilities, his original ability becomes more refined.<br /> |
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| Evolved humans with more potent abilities give Samuel more power then those average or mundane abilities. || None || {{plus}} Samuel goes out of his way to obtain powerful individuals, even when it is incredibly difficult to do so. For example, he went to great lengths to try and recruit [[Jeremy Greer]], even though Jeremy was mentally unstable, dangerous and incarcerated. If every evolved human gave Samuel the same amount of power, it is doubtful that he would go after Jeremy as opposed to a less difficult target.<br /> |
| Evolved humans with more potent abilities give Samuel more power then those average or mundane abilities. || None || {{plus}} Samuel goes out of his way to obtain powerful individuals, even when it is incredibly difficult to do so. For example, he went to great lengths to try and recruit [[Jeremy Greer]], even though Jeremy was mentally unstable, dangerous and incarcerated. If every evolved human gave Samuel the same amount of power, it is doubtful that he would go after Jeremy as opposed to a less difficult target.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Sylar may not remember Samuel.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Sylar may not remember Samuel.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} No matter how strong Sylar's motivation is, Samuel is exponentially more powerful.<br /> |
:{{minus}} No matter how strong Sylar's motivation is, Samuel is exponentially more powerful.<br /> |
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| Samuel will use his power to create a giant rock man, much like Uluru. || None ||{{plus}} His ability would allow him to do this.<br /> |
| Samuel will use his power to create a giant rock man, much like Uluru. || None ||{{plus}} His ability would allow him to do this.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Especially with the more carnies he gathers.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Especially with the more carnies he gathers.<br /> |
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{{plus}} It would be a good way for him to cause destruction if he wanted to, without putting himself in immediate danger.<br /> |
{{plus}} It would be a good way for him to cause destruction if he wanted to, without putting himself in immediate danger.<br /> |
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{{minus}} It would also expose the existence of evolved humans.<br /> |
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| Samuel was more responsible than Alice Shaw or Angela in what happened in Coyote Sands. || Mr. Suresh had to have some way to know what Samuel was all about and everything was covered in sand quite easily, a sandstorm is way more than mere uncontrolled weather. || {{plus}} Samuel has made time controlling individuals help him travel.<br /> |
| Samuel was more responsible than Alice Shaw or Angela in what happened in Coyote Sands. || Mr. Suresh had to have some way to know what Samuel was all about and everything was covered in sand quite easily, a sandstorm is way more than mere uncontrolled weather. || {{plus}} Samuel has made time controlling individuals help him travel.<br /> |
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The following fan theories are about Samuel Sullivan.
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Theories
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| Samuel will get killed off by someone from the carnival. | None | + Nobody seems to like him.
+ If the carnies find out that Samuel sees them as little more than glorified batteries, they might form a mob and lynch him.
+ Samuel blackmails the Bowmans (Smoke & Mirrors), and in an alternate ending of iStory he kills Chris. The Bowmans may rise against him.
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| Samuel wants Peter to regain empathic mimicry. | Doesn't mean it's possible, though. | + Lydia said Samuel tries to fill the void of Joseph's death. It was implied that Samuel wants to fill it with Peter, whom he seems to be very interested in. + It is unclear how the compass tattoo appeared on Peter's arm, but since Samuel was smiling, it may be because Peter somehow replicated his ability.
• Peter should have lost his enhanced speed and gained terrakinesis when they shook hands.
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| Samuel's family got new members thanks to Rebel and Ellen. | None | + Sabine Hazel is at the carnival and was helped by people. + Having Micah helping people to safety by moving them to the carnival makes sense.
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| Samuel is a John the Baptist/Christ figure. | None | + He baptized Sylar to welcome him into his family. - This could just be symbolic of new carnival members being reborn into a new life. |
| Samuel is the Heroes equivalent of Magneto. | None | + Samuel Sullivan is an egomaniac evolved human with an extremely prejudiced view of humans and a penchant for destruction. That sounds a lot like Magneto. • We fear the unknown, as Albus Dumbledore said in Harry Potter 6. Humans were prejudiced as well. And in the first X-Men film, we see that Magneto was a Holocaust survivor. Hitler was scared of the Jews because he didn't understand. And remember in the episode 1961, "Nazis" were mentioned by Charles Deveaux.
- "Egomaniac" is such a strong term. Everyone in Heroes has their own sins.
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| Samuel tried to travel back further in time to kill Mohinder, but failed. | None | + Samuel wouldn't have any reason to kill Mohinder at the point he thought he did. - Samuel needed Chandra's film, not to kill Mohinder. |
| Samuel hid Charlie somewhere in the past near Mohinder. | None | + Samuel might not have had time to do much else before Arnold died. - Samuel wants to keep Charlie hidden from Hiro, but presumably wants Hiro to do something with Mohinder. For obvious reasons, keeping them together would be illogical. |
| Samuel and Sylar will have a fight. | None | + If Sylar gets his memories back, he might see terrakinesis as a useful ability to have. + Sylar has eventually turned on every single person who has ever tried to recruit him. |
| Samuel will find Ando, who will supercharge his ability, causing the Earth to split in half. | None | + It would be the ultimate evil action to do as a villain.
+ This may occur as an unintended consequence of them encountering each other, rather than a master plan on Samuel's part. |
| Samuel wants someone who can carry multiple abilities like Sylar or an empath so he will not have to recruit a new member every time he needs to use a certain ability. | None | + Not every person with an ability will mesh with the rest of the carnival. Having a mimic (or someone with intuitive aptitude) would eliminate the need for such people.
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| Samuel and his family are somehow connected to Ricky (Caitlin's brother) and his crew. | None | • They're both Irish.
+ Ricky calls his crew his family. Samuel calls the carnival his family.
• Ricky's crew and members of the carnival all have circle-like tattoos on their arms.
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| Samuel will split the earth in half because someone in the family/all of his family will be killed. | None | + Hiro could trap the entire carnival to get information about Charlie's whereabouts, breaking Samuel's heart, making him break the earth.
- Hiro is not the killing type.
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| Samuel was responsible for the destruction of Tokyo that Hiro witnessed in "Villains". | None | + Samuel's power is amplified by the presence of other ability users. + In this future, abilities were widespread and common, potentially amplifying Samuel's terrakinesis to untold heights.
- Samuel has stated that the future can still be the same with only some changes; one of these could be the lack of powers among the general population and the formula. |
| Samuel will split the earth in half accidentally. | None | + Peter lost control of his induced radioactivity because it was too much for him to handle. If Samuel is surrounded by too many evolved humans, supercharged, or both it may be too much for him to contain. This will cause him to lose control like Peter did, but on a much larger scale.
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| Samuel gets stronger with every ability around him, not every evolved human. | None | + That may be the reason why Samuel wants someone with more abilities.
+ It would make sense why he gets stronger only near people with abilities. |
| Samuel's ability could be an ability related to empathic mimicry. | None | + Similar to the way that Peter's DNA filled in like a mosaic to replicate abilities, Samuel's DNA may do something similar after being exposed to individuals with abilities. However, instead of acquiring more abilities, his original ability becomes more refined. |
| Evolved humans with more potent abilities give Samuel more power then those average or mundane abilities. | None | + Samuel goes out of his way to obtain powerful individuals, even when it is incredibly difficult to do so. For example, he went to great lengths to try and recruit Jeremy Greer, even though Jeremy was mentally unstable, dangerous and incarcerated. If every evolved human gave Samuel the same amount of power, it is doubtful that he would go after Jeremy as opposed to a less difficult target. + This may also be why Samuel was interested in recruiting Peter and Sylar - they have multiple abilities and may be able to increase his power more than other evolved humans. |
| Samuel wants Tracy to find Eli so he can make Eli clone himself, rapidly increasing evolved human numbers around him so he can make himself more powerful. | None | + Samuel's ability gets stronger when there are more evolved humans around him.
- Samuel sent Tracy to find Eli before learning that.
• It isn't known if Eli's clones can clone themselves, that is, if they also possess the ability. Julien's clones couldn't replicate, but Evan's could. |
| Samuel will be defeated by Sylar/Nathan. | None | + Sylar has a powerful combination of powers that would give him a chance against a fully powered Samuel.
+ Both Sylar or Nathan would have a strong motivation to defeat him (Sylar to steal his power, or Nathan to save the world from the mayhem to come).
• Nathan is gone. |
| Samuel will use his power to create a giant rock man, much like Uluru. | None | + His ability would allow him to do this.
+ It would be a good way for him to cause destruction if he wanted to, without putting himself in immediate danger. |
| Samuel was more responsible than Alice Shaw or Angela in what happened in Coyote Sands. | Mr. Suresh had to have some way to know what Samuel was all about and everything was covered in sand quite easily, a sandstorm is way more than mere uncontrolled weather. | + Samuel has made time controlling individuals help him travel. + Samuel is probably the one that split the world when artificial powers made him overcharged. What could have happened in Coyote Sands, where many powerful individuals were brought together?
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| Samuel will not split the world in half. | None | + It would be a horrible way to end the show. + The Heroes always save the world. |
| Samuel and Alice Shaw will meet up somehow, and use their abilities together to cause massive destruction. | None | + Their abilities (terrakinesis and weather control) compliment each other, one controls the ground while the other controls the sky. + Samuel and Alice both seem to bear some responsibility for the destruction of Coyote Sands. This may have been foreshadowing what is to come. |
| Samuel Sullivan's mother is Kelly Sullivan, the mother of Tracy Strauss and Niki Sanders. | None | + They have the same last name. - They seem too distant.
- Seeing how Niki, Tracy and Barbara were separated at birth, Kelly may not be mother of any of them. |
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