Heroes Wiki talk:Community Portal

Red Link

• I think leaving red ink isn't an entirely bad thing when writing an article since we can always check the list of "wanted articles" and people will always be checking up on them and adding stubs where needed. I'd personally suggest rewording "Either write an entire article, or a brief summary and add the "stubs" template to it" to make it clear that it's more of a suggestion than a rule. One nice thing about the "wanted articles" is that you get the number of pages requesting that article so it's possible to determine the saliency of the request. (Admin 02:25, 7 November 2006 (EST))
  • I agree. I'd rather have no article than a bad article in most cases. Also, there will be times when we just can't meaningfully add even a stub, like Charlie.--Hardvice(talk) 02:29, 7 November 2006 (EST)

In that case, It will be removed and replaced with Wikitext usage. ---- 22:44, 16 November 2006 (EST)

Theories Tab

Originally proposed by ZyberGoat.

• I think that's a pretty good idea. --Heroe
• Not yet It would probably require more work than it would be used for, and they theories do not yet rival the lengths of the articles as they did on Lostpedia. ---- 22:44, 16 November 2006 (EST)
• It might not be a bad idea to do something similar with the episode-by-episode character histories, though. They're becoming somewhat cumbersome already ... just imagine what they'll look like after 22 episodes! Maybe we can move the episode-by-episode histories to a tab at the end of the season and leave a season one summary on the main article. As for the actual question, I agree with Ohmyno ... good idea, but premature at the moment.--Hardvice (talk) 22:49, 16 November 2006 (EST)
  • I think the Theories page is working well for now to serve a similar need. Perhaps in the future it could become unwieldy, but as of now, it is more than appropriate. --ZyberGoat 13:11, 5 December 2006 (EST)

Character Summary and Character History

The main character pages are getting quite long. I suggest we have 2 pages for each character: a Character Summary page, and a Character History page. (These don't need to be the actual names - it's just an idea.) This could be done so the main page is the summary (which would be a long summary, all important info, but not every detail), and there would be a tab or an achive for the in-depth history (which would include each episode's information for the character). This would mean a little more work when it comes to updating after a new episode, but it would make the site look so much cleaner. And the extra work would (hopefully) be absorbed by our growing community. Any thoughts? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:23, 6 December 2006 (EST)

• Oh hey. Read what I said two comments up.  :) Seriously, though, I think what we should do is wait until the season ends, archive them to a new page, and add a season summary with a link to the full history. Then, next season we let them bloat up again and repeat. Each characrter's page will thus have a summary of past seasons and a detailed history for the current season.--Hardvice (talk) 00:50, 6 December 2006 (EST)
  • Good idea - I think we could wait till the end of the season to archive. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:56, 6 December 2006 (EST)

Full episodes at NBC

• NBC's got all the episodes available to watch on their site at the moment, so I added links to all the episode articles for people who would like to watch them. Normally links would be best placed at the bottom of the article, but in this instance I think it would be good for people to see the links before they potentially read the synopsis, but after they read the summary so they know what the episode is about first, so I placed them at the top. Plus I think this will be a good thing to get people through the hiatus. If they come across an episode they haven't seen yet they can just click the link and watch the episode. If the episodes had been hosted by anyone other than NBC I wouldnt have added them, but since it's them I went for it. (Admin 18:47, 10 December 2006 (EST))
  • Thanks, what a great idea. Can't wait to go back and check out some old eps. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:23, 10 December 2006 (EST)

Web Episodes -- Nice, clear credits at last!

How sad is it that my first thought was "at last ... unobstructed credits!" In any case, from the aforementioned credits:

• The third guy at the poker game is the Lowlife, played by Stephen Full. Ernie is credited as "Ernie the Weasel"
• Linderman's thugs are the "Big Guy" and "Weasel". I noted that on their page.
• The Newsie Hiro gets the comic from is played by Dennis Chavis
• The Beat cop guarding the Walkers' home with Matt is played by Russel B. McKenzie
• Linderman's cop is credited as 'State trooper' and later 'Nevada State Trooper'. Not sure what to do about this; ours is more descriptive.
  • I say just include it in the character's notes - he's not integral enough to make a big deal of it. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk)
• The convenience store robber is credited as "Crackhead" (ditto)
  • Again, just another cool note - RyanGibsonStewart (talk)
• Dean Napolitano is the LVPD deputy guarding Niki's house in BH
• Ben Murray is Rufus, the security guard at Primatech Paper Co.

If we want to get really, really trivial:

• The car rental lady is Riki Lindhome
• David Ury is (Chandra's) "Super" in Genesis
• Tohoru Masamune is the "Boss at Yamagato" in Genesis
• Greg Wrangler is the "Odessa Fire Chief" in Genesis (I'm guessing the one Claire saves, not Officer Ramsford)
• Max Amini is a "cabbie" in Genesis (?)
• Claudia Difolco is the "reporter" in Genesis (on the TV news story about the train wreck)
• Jim Devoti is a "cop" in DLB (not Furakowa, the Detective, the FBI Agent, or the Beat cop, though)
• Rick Scarry is the bartender in OGL
• Matt Eyde is a "uniformed cop" in OGL (?)
• Paydin Lopachin is "Brody's next victim" in Collision
• Adam Harrington is a "Paramedic" in Hiros (?)
• Kate Connor is "Nurse Jennifer" in NtH (the one Ted grabs)
• Mark Anthony Cage is "Highway Patrol" in NtH (?)
• Eliza Coleman is "Woman in Car Crash" in NtH
• Peyton Hinson is the "waitress" at the Burnt Toast Diner (the one who's not Lynette) in 7MtM
• Danielle Morrow is "Everyday Girl" and Brent Tarnol is "Male student" in Homecoming (these are the 2 who talk to Claire as as she's walking with Zach)
• Ossie Mair is the "Vendor" (must be the guy who points out Sanjog to Mohinder) in Homecoming
• Tiffany Hines is the cheerleader in Homecoming ("Don't freak out!" to Jackie)
• Alan John Evrard is the Utah Highway Patrol in Homecoming (the one DL ducks to buy a newspaper to avoid, I guess)
• Robert Rigamonti is (Heidi)'s "Surgeon" in SMA
• Ryan K. Smith is a deputy (not Deputy Lloyd) in SMA (?)
• Yuki Matsuzaki is a "Worker" in SMA (I'm assuming the one who talks to Hiro when he teleports back)
• Conroe Brooks is a "Police Officer" in Fallout (?)

This is everyone who is credited and doesn't currently have an article. Do with this what you will.--Hardvice (talk) 17:20, 11 December 2006 (EST)

• Thanks Hardvice! I added a few red links for articles I think might have some merit in being written - ie, red links that already exist, people with more than one reference already, pictures of people, etc. I'm not quite ready to write them all yet, but I think we should keep them red and somebody will get around to them ... January 22 is a long time away! :) - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:09, 11 December 2006 (EST)
  • I took the liberty of red-linking all the actors just to see who has an article and who doesn't. - Cuardin 12:36, 14 January 2007 (EST)
    • I would hold off on red-linking unless we're sure we're going to write an article about that person. Some of the people are credited, but we don't even know who they are yet. ("Thanks, NBC, for such descriptive credits," he says sarcastically.) For instance, I have no idea who Adam Harrington (the paramedic in Hiros) is, and I really don't think he needs an article yet. Nor do I don't think we need to have a red link for the "Don't freak out!" cheerleader quite yet. Just my opinion. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:57, 14 January 2007 (EST)

Real community portal

• If people are interested, we could talk about making this a real community portal, divided up into sections like the Main Page is. Any ideas for what would be good to include? I'm thinking things like site news, maybe a link or section for general site suggestions, maybe "Heroes Wiki in the News" for announcements of notable mentions of this wiki in the media (podcasts, news articles, etc.). Admin
  • Maybe a condensed version of Help:Contents.--Hardvice (talk) 20:04, 11 December 2006 (EST)
    • Community projects, the screencaps page - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:26, 11 December 2006 (EST)

Number of Examples on Powers Pages

I thought it was about time to start a discussion here about the number of examples on the powers pages, before they all get deleted. Some have said a limit of 10, some 12, some other numbers. Any thoughts? My suggestion is no more than 12 dynamic examples.

I also think a link to a full list of examples would be a good idea, and would avoid wars about which examples are the most representative, or the most dynamic. Thoughts? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:32, 3 January 2007 (EST)

• More articles for Category:Lists with extraordinarily long names? My evil plan is working at last! I agree with archiving the full lists before we delete anything, but the length of the examples sections doesn't really bother me yet.--Hardvice (talk) 15:59, 3 January 2007 (EST)
• I'm inclined to limit lists to ten (10) good examples. --Ted C 16:56, 3 January 2007 (EST)
  • I agree with both comments. 10-12 is pretty sufficient, and I don't think we have anything too much above 12 right now. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:10, 3 January 2007 (EST)
• I agree with that too. As the show goes on, we couldput examples on a separate article. Like " Examples of space-time manipulation". Heroe 14:39, 6 January 2007 (EST)

Theories

As a reader of Lostpedia, I noticed that they've recently rolled out a new feature: theory tabs at the top of pages. Considering Heroes is still at a relatively young point and theories aren't quite as numerous, rampant, and developed as in Lost, I think that as time progresses, it could be a good idea. It could definitely help keep the pages less cluttered. Please discuss any thoughts on this article's discussion page. User:Ted C

Another thought (and not one that I necessarily endorse) is to split the central theories page into a page for "Theories about Characters", "Theories about Powers", etc. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:24, 4 January 2007 (EST)

Standardizing External Links

I'm noticing that a lot of our "External Links" sections follow different formats. Some include the title of the page in the link, others the domain name, and still others don't really fall into a category. I think we need to standardize our links. I'm open to anything, but I suggest we include the title of the page inside the link, and then (if applicable), a hyphen and the domain name outside the link, along with an explanation if necessary. As well, I think all external links should be bulleted, even if there's only one (which I think we generally do already). For example:

• Monkey brain - Wikipedia

Any other thoughts? Anybody want to take on the project of standardizing our links? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:46, 21 January 2007 (EST)

NBC's New HeroesWiki

Anyone else notice the new feature over on NBC's website? It's their own "HeroesWiki". :( --Yoshie 10:05, 22 January 2007 (EST)

No, I had not noticed.... browsing now, the page appears brand spanking new (given that the Main Page has only been referenced 61 times for me) and that all the content pages are empty. Hmm... --Orne 10:14, 22 January 2007 (EST)

It's not a big deal, really. It'll be interesting to see how theirs plays out, but their wiki is a few months late. I still think our site is and will remain the best. :) I think between here and Wikipedia most people interested in a Heroes wiki have already found a site that suits their needs. Their site is somewhat redundant. (Admin 10:19, 22 January 2007 (EST))

Has someone managed to create an account there? I just come to the log-in page, but never to the create account page. -- Cuardin 16:07, 24 January 2007 (EST)

You have to make a forum account - although I think it won't let you edit or create an article even if you are registered. --Joshtek 15:09, 25 January 2007 (EST)

Then what is the point????? -- Cuardin 01:35, 26 January 2007 (EST)

Probably to sue us into oblivion, but let's hope not.  :) --Hardvice (talk) 01:43, 26 January 2007 (EST)

Recent lack of commenting in the Summary

I just noticed we have a lot of new people who have contributed some great stuff, but they don't leave any comments in the summary fields, so chechangelogs become completely meaningless. Am I just being anally retentive or should some sort of educational drive be started? -- Cuardin 13:11, 28 January 2007 (EST)

I've to say that I'm new to the wiki things and I first thought that only Admins could leave comments since I always see Hardvice leaving comments and not the others people. But since today I always leave a comment now and I agree that it should be almost mandatory before accepting an edit/new. (forgive my english :p )