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Talk:Enhanced strength and senses
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Enhanced Senses
- Mohinder does state this and Senses apply to touch also. Jason Garrick 21:45, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
- Can you pin down the quote? I think that would be good to add to the article.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:49, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
- I don't think that's just it. enhanced senses do no make you climb walls--Elchafa 22:30, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
- YEs they do, balance is actually a sense. And perhaps he can change his balance to walk on walls. Jason Garrick 18:49, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
Name
Couldn't it just be Mohinder's ability, to go with Alejandro's ability? The "Suresh" seems a little superfluous, for lack of a better word. Psilaq Remake 15:36, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
- Sounds like a good idea to me. --Ted C 17:43, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
- That's how I made it. Someone must've changed it. --Riddler 17:55, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
On an amusing side note, I'm betting he's got Roach Powers. --Ted C 11:03, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
- Did I call it? --Ted C 11:21, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
- Guess you did :) -- Futurepeter 11:25, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
- Looks like you were right, Ted. Should we call this cockroach mimicry?--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:36, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
- Cockroaches can't produce web. I think it's spider mimicry.--Referos 17:32, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
- Well can't we call it insect mimicry? It seems he uses the abilities of a lot of insects, i.e. an ants strength, spiders dislike of light, spider's web making and wall climbing abilities. Insect ability seems more fit.--Sylarversion2 10:14, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
- I think the time transition sequence from Mohinder's "present" lab to his "future" lab is a dead giveaway. --Ted C 17:40, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
- There was a Behind the Eclipse, don't remember which one right now (i think it's the last one or so), where they kind of said Mohinder's powers were actually something like Jeff Goldblum's "The Fly", so I don't think it's "spider-man", and if you give it some thought, it would really suck if they copied that... cause if they do, then what's next? A guy who's super strong, super fast, flies and is extremely allergic to a green rock...? wouldn't that really suck?--Elchafa 22:39, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
- Looks like you were right, Ted. Should we call this cockroach mimicry?--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:36, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
- Guess you did :) -- Futurepeter 11:25, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
- I'm wondering why "ability" was chosen over something more seemingly appropriate, like "mutation". We know it isn't an ability because Peter visited Mohinder in the future and never broke out in gross sores because of it, unless rapid cell regeneration prevents the adverse side-effects. Revengeance 04:24, 24 October 2008 (EDT)
- Just because Peter is exposed to an ability doesn't mean he knows how to access it. In a recent episode, Peter had to ask future Sylar to help him learn Sylar's intuitive aptitude even though he had been exposed to it on multiple occasions. That said, Peter may never gain access to Mohinder's ability or may have begun using it and not known he had (Mohinder didn't notice the adverse side-effects until the next day). Arthur had transfered Peter's abilities to himself before the next day occurred for Peter, so Peter never got the chance to develop Mohinder's problems. That said, it will be interesting to see what Arthur can tap into; Mohinder's ability could be one of the abilities he took from Peter.--MiamiVolts (talk) 05:08, 24 October 2008 (EDT)
- Good point about intuitive aptitude. The mutation may be triggered in the same way as "the hunger". When the ability is used, that is. Revengeance 05:44, 24 October 2008 (EDT)
- Just because Peter is exposed to an ability doesn't mean he knows how to access it. In a recent episode, Peter had to ask future Sylar to help him learn Sylar's intuitive aptitude even though he had been exposed to it on multiple occasions. That said, Peter may never gain access to Mohinder's ability or may have begun using it and not known he had (Mohinder didn't notice the adverse side-effects until the next day). Arthur had transfered Peter's abilities to himself before the next day occurred for Peter, so Peter never got the chance to develop Mohinder's problems. That said, it will be interesting to see what Arthur can tap into; Mohinder's ability could be one of the abilities he took from Peter.--MiamiVolts (talk) 05:08, 24 October 2008 (EDT)
Using Bricks
I watched the episode again, and I'm not entirely sure about this note. I saw his hands flat on the wall at points, I think the cracks may just be coincidental. Maybe it should be noted that it's possible, yet unclear?--Riddler 01:16, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
- Someone kept adding that, and I kept reverting it. He/she must have done it again and I didn't catch it because it was patrolled. I reverted it, because it's completely speculative. You're correct.--Bob (talk) 02:10, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
The Sticky Stuff
What the hell was he using to pin those people to the wall? Webbing? Phlegm? Whatever it was, it sure made me think of Aliens. --PeterDawson 02:03, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- I'm not sure about this, but the thing I was thinking is that he got the formulla perfectly right ! To me it looks more like that his powers are coming to him in parts. First the super strength and stuff, then the scale-like things, and now the sticky stuff. To me it looks like that his ability is something bug-like, and apparently his power is also changing his appearance. It would indeed be interesting that with certain abilities also comes a change in appearance...--Baby Yoda 13:12, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- I doubt Mohinder knows about the Constrictors. Their appearance is also altered by their ability. Mohinder probably thinks his appearance alteration means the formula didn't work properly, but he probably would change his mind if he was to learn about them.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:48, 15 October 2008 (EDT)
Tin foil
I noticed the small amounts of foil around the lab in the future, but now there's a lot of foil in the lab in the present. Anyone else notice this? I find it odd, might have something to do with this ability.--Bob (talk) 21:22, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- Yeah, I noticed it last week, but I didn't notice the foil this week. I'm curious what that's all about... -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:04, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- The aliens, of course. Therequiembellishere 00:34, 15 October 2008 (EDT)
- It's either to stop aliens possessing the furniture, or to give Mo better grip for when he's throwing it at people. On a serious note, I think Mo is covering the reflective surfaces of his lab because he doesn't like what he's becoming. Revengeance 13:52, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
- ...covering it with slightly less reflective material? Hmm.... -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:11, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
- He crinkles the tinfoil to wrap it... Revengeance 23:36, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
- ...covering it with slightly less reflective material? Hmm.... -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:11, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
- It's either to stop aliens possessing the furniture, or to give Mo better grip for when he's throwing it at people. On a serious note, I think Mo is covering the reflective surfaces of his lab because he doesn't like what he's becoming. Revengeance 13:52, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
- Either way we can assume Mohinder is insane, so do we really need a logical explanation :P -- FlamingTomDude 21:54, 13 November 2008 (EST)
- The aliens, of course. Therequiembellishere 00:34, 15 October 2008 (EDT)
Mohinder's ability: Insect Mimicry?
- So in the last episode, (Eris Quod Sum), we see Mohinder flying away. Now it makes perfect sense what is happening to him. Because he got the formula wrong, it's messing up his whole dna, mixing abilites with each other. We saw him use the following powers "Flight" (Eris Quod Sum), "Enchanced Strenght", (The Second Coming), "Enhanced Speed" (I Am Become Death), some form of "Spider Mimicry" (The Butterfly Effect) and i might have missed some. What i'm getting at is that this ability probably can't be named because it's a mixture of abilities. But hey... it's just a little theory. -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C ) 12:30, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
- I don't think he flew there. I think he just jumped , as you know many bugs can jump very high. --Hellknight 12:38, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
- Yeah, that's the most logical thing to me. Intuitive Empath 15:01, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
- Yeah i think i got it all wrong. I read Greg Beeman's blog, which said "Bug Man", but if we look at episode 1 of season 3, we see Mohinder tossing his muggers around, are bugs that strong?? -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C ) 15:29, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
- Ants, for example, can carry things even much bigger and heavier than themselves. Ordinary bugs with extraordinary abilities!! --Hellknight 15:35, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
- Yeah, ants can carry things about at least ten times their weight. Intuitive Empath 16:27, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
- Ants, for example, can carry things even much bigger and heavier than themselves. Ordinary bugs with extraordinary abilities!! --Hellknight 15:35, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
- Yeah i think i got it all wrong. I read Greg Beeman's blog, which said "Bug Man", but if we look at episode 1 of season 3, we see Mohinder tossing his muggers around, are bugs that strong?? -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C ) 15:29, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
- Yeah, that's the most logical thing to me. Intuitive Empath 15:01, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
- Yeah, he's really reminding me of a Spider-Man analogue. "Spider Mimicry" or even a type of "Arachnid Physiology" sound good based on what we've seen so far. --Torley 23:12, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
- Yeah, but that really doesn't account for the scales. I'm still thinking cockroach here. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 23:14, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
- Maybe a combination of several different bugs? --Ice Vision (talk) 16:27, 3 November 2008 (EST)
- Yeah, but that really doesn't account for the scales. I'm still thinking cockroach here. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 23:14, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
- In the latest Heroes Unmasked, Tim Kring described it as "becoming an insect" and "insect ability". - Hive 16:56, 12 November 2008 (EST)
- So let's rename it to one of these, yes? - Hive 23:14, 13 November 2008 (EST)
- Yeah I think it's time to finally name this mutated ability. In Heroes Unmasked "307 - A Bug's Life", Tim Kring said that his power is based on the, "...idea of an insect-like ability", and "his speed and strength have a insect like quality". And was to make him slowly transform into a bug. I think this should be called "Insect mimicry" or "Insect transformation"? Oh, they also confirmed that he can't fly, but what they call a "bug-jump". --Powermimic 20:28, 14 November 2008 (EST)
- Heh, I would prefer cockroach mimicry, but since that isn't confirmed... insect mimicry works well with me... but other people here tend to me more... conservative with the naming convention so maybe we should wait for more opinions on this. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 20:52, 14 November 2008 (EST)
- Mimicry again? You might as well call it insectikinesis. - Hive 21:00, 14 November 2008 (EST)
- Uhh... no. Given the fact that Kring describes it as "becoming an insect," insect mimicry is perfectly fine. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 21:10, 14 November 2008 (EST)
- Anyone else have any opinions? --Powermimic 04:48, 16 November 2008 (EST)
- Uhh... no. Given the fact that Kring describes it as "becoming an insect," insect mimicry is perfectly fine. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 21:10, 14 November 2008 (EST)
- Mimicry again? You might as well call it insectikinesis. - Hive 21:00, 14 November 2008 (EST)
- Heh, I would prefer cockroach mimicry, but since that isn't confirmed... insect mimicry works well with me... but other people here tend to me more... conservative with the naming convention so maybe we should wait for more opinions on this. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 20:52, 14 November 2008 (EST)
- Yeah I think it's time to finally name this mutated ability. In Heroes Unmasked "307 - A Bug's Life", Tim Kring said that his power is based on the, "...idea of an insect-like ability", and "his speed and strength have a insect like quality". And was to make him slowly transform into a bug. I think this should be called "Insect mimicry" or "Insect transformation"? Oh, they also confirmed that he can't fly, but what they call a "bug-jump". --Powermimic 20:28, 14 November 2008 (EST)
- So let's rename it to one of these, yes? - Hive 23:14, 13 November 2008 (EST)
- I don't think he flew there. I think he just jumped , as you know many bugs can jump very high. --Hellknight 12:38, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
Building a nest, laying eggs
If I remember correctly Bennet explicitly stated to Tracy and Nathan (and Meredith was there too if you want a third witness) that Suresh was "...building a nest; laying eggs." Does anyone think this is noteworthy? -- FlamingTomDude 21:50, 13 November 2008 (EST)
- What I got from it was that Bennet was just joking, perhaps exaggerating the "freakiness" of Mohinder's ability. If memory serves correctly, he also said right afterwards, "We don't know," or something to that effect. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:08, 13 November 2008 (EST)
- I think the dialogue went something like:
Tracy: What was he doing?
Noah: Building a nest, laying eggs, perhaps. It doesn't matter, but it'd probably be best if you let us check you out just to be safe.
It didn't sound to me like Noah knew what Mohinder was up to.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:30, 13 November 2008 (EST)- More like "building a nest, laying eggs... who knows?" - Hive 23:14, 13 November 2008 (EST)
- I think the dialogue went something like:
- I guess so. Still; wouldn't it be worth making some kind of note about? Clearly Bennet thought it was possible he could have been building a nest or laying eggs. He even wanted to make sure Nathan and Tracy were clean of said eggs. -- FlamingTomDude 22:57, 16 November 2008 (EST)
- I didn't get that at all. I got that he had absolutely no better idea what Mohinder was up to than anybody else. I don't think he thought Mohinder was (or that he wasn't) capable of laying eggs. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:17, 16 November 2008 (EST)
- The thought of Mohinder laying eggs... --Ice Vision (talk) 17:07, 17 November 2008 (EST)
- I didn't get that at all. I got that he had absolutely no better idea what Mohinder was up to than anybody else. I don't think he thought Mohinder was (or that he wasn't) capable of laying eggs. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:17, 16 November 2008 (EST)