This wiki is a XML full dump clone of "Heroes Wiki", the main wiki about the Heroes saga that has been shut down permanently since June 1, 2020. The purpose of this wiki is to keep online an exhaustive and accurate database about the franchise.

Talk:Peter Petrelli

From Heroes Wiki
Revision as of 06:08, 15 October 2009 by imported>Sei relo (→Power)
Jump to navigation Jump to search
Archives
Nov 2006-May 2007
Jun-Oct 2007
Nov 2007-Oct 2008
Oct 2008-Dec 2008
Dec 2008-Mar 2009
Mar 2009-Sept 2009

empath?

Didn't Edgar call Peter an empath? Does this mean something?--Catalyst · Talk · HL 23:20, 21 September 2009 (EDT)

  • Maybe, but I think that Pete's always has been known to be an empathic character. That's just my guess. --TrueBlueBrooklynite 01:07, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

This could mean that the ability is empathy but the means of absorbing the power differ through job etc Peter saves one life at a time he can only absorb one ability at a time. -Yippee ki ya 03:15, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

  • I agree, in part. The reference could be to the nature of his core ability, or it could be foreshadowing the episodes of the upcoming season. Nothing more tantalizing to us fan boys than for the writers to name-drop an ability we are all hoping will pop up again.Fourletterfame 08:19, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
    • You know what I think? Have this in your mind first: Peter absorbed Edgar's super speed without touching him, he only touched his knife. I think, Peter's ability of Replication just evolved to Empathic mimicry (much like Tracy's and Matt's abilities evolved allowing them to do more things) but the writers aren't saying that literally just yet so we don't get our hopes up xD. Meteoritu =D- 20:53, September 23rd 2009
      • Just because we didn't see it, it doesn't mean he didn't touch him, he could have very well done it when he picked Edgar up to throw him. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:07, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
        • We didn't see Peter take shape shifting either (I know the door was shut, but still).--Catalyst · Talk · HL 16:51, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
          • I got two shots first one is a bit blurry but both show Peter's hand on Edgar's sleeve.Here Here-Yippee ki ya 14:32, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
            • I already noticed the second image shown above. That's where he gained Edgar's power. --09:04, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
              • Meteoritu however thought Peter only touched Edgar's knife so it was for his benefit -Yippee ki ya 14:32, 28 September 2009 (EDT)

Mohinder's Ability

At the start of Orientation Peter has Mohinder's ability, so the Abilities Replicated section should show Mohinder's Ability in between Shape Shifting and super speed. This is confirmed by dialouge Peter says to Noah " in my job it helps to be strong and agile, thank you Dr. Suresh. It's a pretty convienent power." I'm going to make the change based on that evidence. --D Toccs 05:43, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

  • The question is, which one of Mohinder's abilities did Peter refer to? The old one or the current one? The old one no longer exists, and the current one has been already replicated by Peter once in A Clear and Present Danger and is listed. AltesUTC CH
  • So it's a continuity error on the part of the writers, but Peter clearly was jumping high and ripping car doors off there hinges before meeting Edgar. That is not shape shifting and he says in dialouge he got the ability from Mohinder so we should be listing it as the article is inaccurate. --D Toccs 05:55, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
    • It may be possible that Mohinder kept the jumping aspect of his ability after being cured with the formula, since it's related to strength, not that sticky goo. AltesUTC CH
      • The point is that in Orientation Peter clearly has a different power than shape shifting. We have a canon source that says he got the power from Mohinder so it should be added to the abilities replicated page section. That is my point. This should also be be discussed at Mohinder's page as to the extent of his curent abilities. --D Toccs 06:04, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
        • Yes, I agree with that. The only thing - it cannot be Mohinder's old ability... unless Peter time traveled. AltesUTC CH
          • Agreed, I see it as a continuity error of the writers. I guess that means that Mohinder also still has the agility and jumping aspects of his ability. Personally him being left with only strenght never sat well with me. --D Toccs 06:10, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
            • Though he looks more like he's coordinating his jumps than he's being agile. For me fast and agile is how he got after Edgar. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:35, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
            • When Mohinder possessed his old ability he developed scales on his skin and web from his fingers, which Peter did not, indicating that Peter only replicated his repaired ability of enhanced strength. EvilMaldini - 23:58, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
              • Also Peter didn't show aversion to light, nor he drank litres of chocolate milk, nor he climbed walls, nor he seduced women. It's just strength and agility. AltesUTC CH

When did Peter learn to fight?

Before now, Peter hadn't really shown any fighting skill, but now he holds his own against a guy who seems like an expert knife-fighter?--Cro Magnon 14:22, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Could be that Peter was faster than Edgar which means it would be easier to block, like fighting someone who's in slow motion to you. -Yippee ki ya 14:43, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Paramedic

I know Peter still wants to help people, but lately, it seems like that is all he wants to do. (His apartment/newspaper headings). And he is kind of obsessed with gaining new abilities to help him. It just doesn't seem natural and not like the peter that tried to help, but still had a life.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 21:31, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

  • I think of it like that he doesn't want his life. He doesn't want to be a part of his life because of his sinful family.. ~~IHH—Talk 21:46, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

Power

Now, I think he has acquired intuitive aptitude. He seems to know how to use his repliated abilities when he gets them. Though, he wants to save them. This might sound funny, but his power kind of sounds like it would be Intuitive empathy. Having a sort of need to help people and wants anything (meaning powers) to help him with that--Catalyst · Talk · HL 22:55, 28 September 2009 (EDT)

  • Peter's new ability always gave him equal control to the person he took it from. For example, when he breaks into Building 26 with Matt, he's able to do everything Matt could do with his telepathy. The exception would be Tracy when he froze Flight 195, but we already know that was when he accidentally took the ability. Peter's always been innately empathic, it's why he made such a good nurse, but that's not an ability per se.I certainly wouldn't say he has IA, because he's shown no signs of the hunger, can only use one ability at a time (and thus can't hold IA and Super Speed), and can't determine how systems work.Swm 05:05, 29 September 2009 (EDT)
    • Yeah, and you don't need to have IA to want more powers. Who wouldn't? AltesUTC CH
      • I think the amount of control peter has over his own ability, affects the amount he can control others. Right now he has nearly mastered his ability replication, so he is able to master abilities he takes in a matter of seconds. It would make sense.Gamerelite1 19:54, 30 September 2009 (EDT)

So are you saying that Peter can keep and recall abilities back.User:50000JH/signature

        • No, I think he's saying that because peter can control his ability at a certain level (say 78%) he has the same amount of control over any ability he copies, but only one at a time. --mc_hammark 14:14, 2 October 2009 (EDT)
          • That's exactly what I was sayingGamerelite1 18:34, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

Sei relo said:

  • I've got a question on Peter original ability and the abilities he have. First off, we all know that his emphatic mimicry ability was taken away and he got a new ability which is ability replication. On Peter character pages, it is stated that his emphatic mimicry ability is lost. This brought me to a question. I thought he regained his emphatic mimicry ability? The fight with Sylar? Did he?
  • Also, regarding he could be a better user at other people ability when copied, is it because of Sylar intuitive aptitude ability which he might have copied from Sylar when he 'regained' his emphatic mimicry ability from Sylar? Since Peter triumph over Edgar fighting with the super speed ability. I mean Edgar have that ability for how long and Peter just got it and Peter uses it better.. anyone care to share their thought with me?

Terrakinesis?

It should be noted that after Samuel met up with Peter (and shook his hand), not only did Peter not use super speed anymore, but the tattoo on his arm moved. Now, this could just be Samuel screwing with him, but it could just as easily be that Samuel managed to get Peter to accidentally take his power, while giving him just enough ink to have it "activate" like that. Food for thought over the next week. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 13:42, 29 September 2009 (EDT)

  • It was very clear for me that the tattoo moving was Samuel's doing. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 14:25, 29 September 2009 (EDT)
    • The only thing we don't know is, was it because samuel was present within a cartain radius of peter or was he controlling it using his ability. --mc_hammark 14:30, 29 September 2009 (EDT)
      • The tattoo moved and Peter noticed it only after Samuel noticed Peter was there. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 15:55, 29 September 2009 (EDT)
        • I watched that part again, and peter notices something on his arm as they're walking to the scene (before they actually show the tatoo). When the compass tatoo starts spinning on Peter's arm, Samuel doesn't look like he is controlling it, but simply watching. It's also the same tatoo that Samuel shows Hiro in the first episode, which implies to me that Peter has Samuel's power now.benlinus
          • Nothing points against Samuel being able to control his ability without moving, as far as I'm concerned, he was controlling it remotely. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:39, 2 October 2009 (EDT)

Flint, or Meredith?

So I just noticed that in the list of Peter's previous empathic mimicry abilities (Before Arthur), his ability to use fire is credited to Flint. Now I'm having a twitch of trouble remembering when Peter and Meredith were ever close, but whose to say that they weren't? Meredith's flames are orange, while Flint's are blue. When Peter uses his fire, his is orange as well, and when in the alternate future of the first season, a future that wouldn't have seen Flint escape (He would have been killed for being a 'terrorist), Peter is again seen with orange flaming hands. As we've seen, even when the future changes, small stuff still comes true. Nathan still became a powerful politician, Daphne still got killed, Sylar still ended up playing Nathan's life. Maybe Peter still got his fire power from Meredith.--Kooliki 00:39, 4 October 2009 (EDT)

  • I don't believe Peter and Meredith were ever close--or have even met each other--that we've seen onscreen or in a graphic novel. The first future Peter (from Season One) definitely got pyrokinesis from Meredith--that was confirmed in an interview with writer-producers Joe Pokaski and Aron Coleite. But this current Peter got his pyrokinesis from Flint. He used it in I Am Become Death, but he got it from Flint in the episode before, One of Us, One of Them, when Peter comes out of Jesse Murphy's body and encounters Flint at the bank. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:59, 4 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Alright. Well then is it safe to assume that Flint Gordon's fire is blue simply because he's honed his pyrokinesis to such a degree that he can increase the heat of his flame?--Kooliki 01:11, 4 October 2009 (EDT)
      • Probably. Either that, or that ability manifests itself differently in different people. But probably because he's worked on increasing the heat in his flames, as we read in Playing with Fire. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:51, 4 October 2009 (EDT)

Funny Thing

I thought it was really funny when Peter tried running and was like WTF when he absorbed Emma's power, I think this season is getting better and better by the episodes--Skyeatsout 22:44, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

  • Same thing was with Volume Four, I remember everyone saying each episode is better than the previous one =) AltesUTC CH
      • Funny ? I'm not talking about what the result was (a good thing) but come on. Peter doesn't even realize he absorbed her power ???? Do you even realize what this means ?

His power is even worst than empathic mimicry. The fact that he couldn't use superspeed against his will just made me mad. It didn't made me laugh at all. He has the worst ability of the show, you guys are ok with it, cool, I'm not.

  • I, personally, think Emma's ability would be amazing to have! You'd never be bored, the world would be colorful and bright! And hey, didn't you see what she did when she was frustrated at the end of the episode. It seems like an awesome ability. --Scorvi12 08:05, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
    • I don't complain about Peter having Emma's power (while it's true, he touched dozen of "specials" and never got their powers but...), I complain about Peter's power's crapiness.

Emma's power is cool ? Great. Then Peter will just touch somebody randomly and lost it. That's why I complain. He can't choose anything, otherwise he would have felt Nathan had Sylar powers, he can't control it since he wasn't aware he changed his power... And having only one at time just make things worst. It's completely random now and that just bloody sucks. And don't even pretend that's because he was "in shock" after saving Emma, since he went through a lot worse in volume 4 and still kept the crappy flight ability while he touched a lot of special persons.

  • Well now at least it solves the debate over whether or not Peter can hold on to multiple abilities. But i think, just like the other characters, his emotions caught up with him and took over (just like tracy in the previous episode) even though he is in control. It was kind of obvious since they focused specifically on his hand on her elbow, although i'm disappointed by the lack of visual demonstration. --mc_hammark 08:55, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
  • I'm annoyed at the inconsistency in his ability to acquire another special's ability. When fighting Sylar, Peter can seemingly pick and choose which of Sylar's many abilities he wants. When fighting Edgar, Peter deliberately acquires Edgar's ability with perfect control and timing. However, when touching Nathan/Sylar, he senses nothing despite Nathan/Sylar demonstrating TK. When hugging Claire at HRG's apartment, he does not absorb her regeneration and lose his speed. When shaking Samuel's hand, he (apparently) does not acquire Samuel's ability (though because of the compass tattoo this is still somewhat vague), but Peter certainly doesn't lose speed. When holding his mother's hand in Hysterical Blindness, he does not acquire her ability. So, why does he absorb Emma's? The writers made a big deal this episode about Peter trying to "reconnect" with people - lets hope they are going somewhere with this. I HATE IT when comic book writers de-power heroes. It never works for long - the fans get annoyed, and the writers always revert the character to their former power. I am running out of patience with this show. The same goes for Hiro. The biggest disappointment for me is that the writers offered glimpses of the true potential of both Hiro and Peter through their future selves. Unfortunately, we get lumped with these current handicapped versions in a bad teen soap opera. -- Stang.

An Empath again?

I have noticed a a couple things.

  • 1.) There is no light transfer when he replicates an ability.
    • Its probably a decision to be deliberately vague about Peter taking a power, so people like us speculate. Or perhaps its just budget cuts. --Stang 20:18, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Or his power have already evolved a bit WaterRatj 20:19, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Evolved? Wishful thinking. Its gone backwards. Still one power at a time, and he doesn't even have perfect control of when he chooses to take an ability, as witnessed with Emma. Until its made perfectly clear that Peter can have more than one power at a time, or that he can replicate an ability without touch, there is no evidence of any evolution of his ability. For the time being, we are stuck with handicapped Peter.--Stang 20:30, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
  • 2.) He may be losing control of his ability (replicating enhanced synesthesia)
  • 3.) The writers aren't making his ability usage clear this season (Edgar and now Emma)

So I'm thinking, maybe he still only holds on to one ability, but who he touches with an ability, he passively gets it. And maybe the reason why this is happening all of a sudden, is because he is back to helping people. In Fugitives, he was focused on saving his own life, but now he is back to really dedicated life saving. Thoughts?--Catalyst · Talk · HL 16:51, 13 October 2009 (EDT) -Agreed I think we will see his old power coming back, well i hope so at least like his Father's but doesn't take it just copys it and keeps it--Skyeatsout 16:55, 13 October 2009 (EDT).

  • If Peter absorbs abilities passively, but still retains only one, that would be really lame. AltesUTC CH

Reconnecting

Lets hope peter is reconnecting with people in this volume. and i also believe like other people, that his ability is evolving again, it could be that he got the empathic aspect of his power back. Taking a power without touching people, but this isn't proven yet, since he touched everyone for their powers now. and the reason he took the power of Emma, could be of his emotion being high atm, cause afterall she was almos hit by a bus. but all of this isn't proven yet. But i love to see him getting his old power back. And now something farfetched :p he will borrow hiro's powers , go back in time get his old power back or something :p or he just will have his old EM agian :D WaterRatj 19:44, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

  • His emotions were MUCH HIGHER in volume 4, in several moments, and nothing happened.
    1) At the beginning of V4, HE WAS SAVING LIVES ! Sylar is killing everyone but is considered empath ?! Peter was always connected to Claire, but he never got his power...
    2) His future selves were so totally not empathic, but still had plenty of powers.
    It was just an excuse for the writers. Now that he connected to people, his power evolved. In the worst way possible, it now has all empathic mimicry problems (he can't control it, he loses powers, he takes powers without even noticing it, so literraly against his will...) BUT STILL HAS THE LIMITATION OF ABILITY REPLICATION. So what the hell is that lame power ? I mean it's like the lamest thing they've done on the season so far. At least if he could pick abilities without touching but still one at the time, he could be equally powerful as the others, while matching Sylar (changing constantly his powers by picking one on him...). But No, their great idea was to make the power even more crappier. As if it was not enough.
    It's been since episode 3x06 that we're waiting for Peter to get his powers back. And ability replication is not what we can call "powers". Let's sum up :
    3x01 - 3x04, he was in jessie's body, had only sound manipulation. Then for one episode he's awesome. Then he's in the coma. Then Arthur stole all of his powers. For half of the volume he is powerless. Then for volume 4, he got flight THE WHOLE VOLUME ! (And telepathy...) While only appearing in 6/12 episodes of the volume ! (I don't count the 2 seconds he appeared at the end of some episodes) So now what, they said to themselves that it would be cool to see Peter struggle with his powers, like season 1 ? Like when he couln't fly and fell to the ground, that was "fun". We have to speculate now. Yeah, but in the worst possible way. We don't speculate as we used to, now it's just because we don't know how much crappy it is. Not because we like it. So seriously, I don't know what they're waiting for. There seem to have NO possible evolution to this power since they don't want him to get more than one power. So he will just be as lame for the whole volume ? Come on, I'm still watching the show mainly for Peter, it's getting very annoying that, they even pretend that is power is perfectly OK and that even Peter is OK with it, as if this bloody downgrade was just a minor thing... Even Samuel thinks Peter is lame, since he chose Sylar... While Peter did show empathy toward him, so I don't think the writers even consider his crappy power as a problem. It's hopeless.
  • First of all, the reason perhaps took sylar was because he saw the image on lydia's back and knowing it would be easier to make sylar evil then peter, Peter wouldn't help Samuel if he knows his intentions, also his powers are fine, if their gonne evolve at some part.
    Peter has always been a good character, and you can't compare them emotions he have for emma to the ones he had for claire, also he din't meet claire that often after he got his new power, it was to soon fr his powers to evolve at that point.
    He wasn't the peter back then trying to reconnect to people, He only tried to reconnect in the latest episode, and peters current ablity isn't lame, it will develop into something better in time, its all about the way he needs to have his emotions(empathy) back into his way of life, he could be become the old peter we knew who was empathic with people.
    We shall find out in next episodes WaterRatj 14:58, 14 October 2009 (EDT)
Retrieved from "https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=Talk:Peter_Petrelli&oldid=312497"