Talk:Telepathy

Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources	Episodes
2. Near-canon Sources	Webisodes, Graphic Novels, iStories, Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources	Episode commentary, Interviews, Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities	Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities	Descriptions
6. Possessor's name	If no non-speculative description is possible
Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine telepathy's name.
Source/Explanation
Explicitly listed in the Mozaic file (The Fix) and on the file Nathan gives The President (Dual).

I'm not sure 'telepathy' accurately describes Matt's powers. Telepathy is more like communication from one mind to another, I'm pretty sure. That's not exactly what he does. Is this even worth changing, or am I totally wrong?  :) Mcg (talk) 1:18, 29 December 2006 (EST)

According to Wikipedia, Telepathy is "the paranormal acquisition of information concerning the thoughts, feelings or activity of another person." So it seems to describe Matt's power pretty well. :) (Admin 01:28, 29 December 2006 (EST))

According to dictionary.com, Telepathy is "communication between minds by some means other than sensory perception". Seems like there's multiple meanings. :P Telepathy is good, then. Mcg (talk) 1:30, 29 December 2006 (EST)

That definition also seems to cover Matt's powers. In his case there is communication occurring between minds. Communication can be one-way, so with either definition we're covered. :) (Admin 01:38, 29 December 2006 (EST))

• Way too many examples. Heroe 14:59, 3 January 2007 (EST)
  • See here for discussion.
    • Mind reading is More accurate cause remember what the Parkman's talked about in the couch. Matt said he can only read thoughts NOT see them. And a Telepath can EXCHANGE information Including Pictures.
      ~ ~ ~ ~ Red = 08:35, 13 February 2007 (EST)
      • See Wikipedia definition above. Telepathy is an appropriate description of the power. Telepathy does not require an exchange nor does it require pictures. Those are just different versions of telepathy. (Admin 09:23, 13 February 2007 (EST))
      • Though there are, granted, many terms to describe any one thing, we must decide on a single name. Telepathy is perfectly descriptive, as is mind reading. But it's fruitless to go back and forth with name changes and such, especially when it's not just one thing that needs to be changed, but many references throughout. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 09:59, 13 February 2007 (EST)
      • Since telepthay doesn't actually exist, we aren't bound by any other definition of it, apart from what's shown on Heroes. Also, while it's not a canon source, Matt's dossier on primatechpaper.com does refer to his ability as "telepathy".--Hardvice (talk) 13:25, 13 February 2007 (EST)
        • One must be able to distinguish the difference of those aspects. I wouldn't Place too much Value on wiki as a FACT, but a 3rd party source. BUT even the description is “thought-transference” Transferring BOTH Ideas, Images, etc... and the Limits on Matt's abilities in scope completely describes just Mind Reading. BUT since the Primatech Site says so, and Suresh's Notes[1]. I'll have to submit.
          ~ ~ ~ ~ Red = 15:16, 18 February 2007 (EST)

Didn't Maury tell Matt that hearing other's thoughts was just the beginning of his power? It seems that Maury has a stronger/similar/same ability as Matt, and that Maury can hear people's thoughts, hence somehow telling Molly was there, and trapping her in her mind? Maybe it's mind manipulation. Maybe Matt can do what Maury can do. Maury said something along the lines of "we aren't so different after all" and lots of signs point to having the same ability, just less developed.--Evanmeads 17:21, 23 October 2007 (EDT)

Occurrences

• Isn't there another occurrence of Maury's power when he makes Matt and Nathan believe that he had a photo of himself with the death-threat symbol over him, when it was actually a picture of Bob not him? Or did I understand that wrong?--E rowe 16:42, 23 October 2007 (EDT)

Healer Telepath

I think that there is another example of telepathy in the episode "Lizards". The healer woman who talks to Maya and says she can help, and then she appears to read Maya's mind and the mind reading sound effect occurs several times (the sound Matt's mind reading makes). I was thinking of adding the healer to the list of known telepaths.

• There's no way to confirm whether she was telepathic or had some other ability (healing or psychic diagnosis, for example), or no ability at all. This has been discussed on Talk:Curandera and Talk:Healing.--Hardvice (talk) 16:47, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
  • It does seem as though she has an ability as, as stated earlier, the sound effect was played. But I do agree, the sound effect does not tell us WHICH ability she has. -- eXplicit _{(talk/contribs) 28 January 2026 - 18:21 EDT}

True, and but maybe she read her mind and saw what Maya had done. You've got a point, the sound effect doesn't prove anything. Also, is there an article relating to the healer?

• Curandera.--Hardvice (talk) 14:05, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

Dream Telepathy

evsdropr calls it dream telepathy] for Maury.

Deleted Scene

Should Matt's display of telepathy from the season two alternative ending be listed under notes? We list Kaito's ability under notes, makes sense to add Matt commanding an entire police station. Same with Maya, she was supposed to have used her ability to absorb the Shanti virus, also worth to list under notes, as well as Peter using TK to cause a rockslide and block the bridge in Odessa. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 07:10, 5 January 2009 (EST)

• Anyone? Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:15, 10 February 2009 (EST)
  • Because deleted scenes/alternate endings aren't considered canon, I'd say no. --Darmenos 14:33, 27 February 2009 (EST)
    • I'd say yes, just perhaps with a friendly reminder that it can't be considered canon information. -Whizzles 16:53, 27 February 2009 (EST)
      • That's what I suggested, we already have other deleted scene info listed in other articles in notes section. It's been done before. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:22, 27 February 2009 (EST)

Telepathy based precognition

According to the latest BTE, Matt can use precognition because via his telepathy he can put himself in the same state of mind as precogs. Should that be mentioned here, at precognition or in both? Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:15, 10 February 2009 (EST)

I think it would be fine if we mention it on both articles. But are we listing precognition as a byproduct of telepathy or no? Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 18:00, 10 February 2009 (EST)

We were listing Matt as having two abilities, not sure if we should still list like that. Some reply also wanted in the previous topic. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:03, 10 February 2009 (EST)

Matt isn't enetering the same state of mind, he is accessing the same plane that precogs naturally access with his telepathy, it's is technically a byproduct or a limit as it something being caused by his telepathy itself.--Steelymcbeam 00:05, 27 February 2009 (EST)

I'm thinking it has something to do with that stuff Usutu fed him. Kinda like riding a bike, once you learn you never forget. Dracomaster4 00:10, 27 February 2009 (EST)

If it was just the paste, Hiro would also have precognition. BTE stated that Matt can enter the state with telepathy after Usutu helped him, the paste did have an effect, but it's not the only reason Matt has precognition. I would list his ability as telepathy in the infobox, putting precognition as a byproduct, because that's what it is, list precognition as a sub section of telepathy in his character page. If Matt was to lose his telepathy, the same would happen with precognition. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:08, 27 February 2009 (EST)

Image Request

I think we should change the image of Matt to one of these three.

Example 1, Example 2 and Example 3

Only reason why i feel the need to change it is because it merely looks like he has a headache. I look the same way with a bad headache. These pics make him look more concentrated on the thoughts he is reading.--Catalyst (01:57, 14 March 2009)

• i like example number 3 -- Scorvi12 (02:01, 14 March 2009)
• However much i dislike the current image, there really isnt one better. I mean those three images just look like a camera shot of his face lol i would suggest just sticking with the current image, i doubt we are gonna get a better one. --Lolwut 13:50, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
• i like example three...i agree the current image sucks

Why are there so many telepaths?

Three people having this power naturally: Matt, Maury and Charles. Telepathy beats the record... --Altes 02:01, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

• Well, there are five people with enhanced strength (Niki, Knox, Michael Fitzgerald, Scott, Mohinder). So, that holds the record. Four people have pyrokinesis (Meredith, Maarten, Flint, Iris). Three people also have:
  • Flight (Nathan, West, Angie)
  • Levitation (Abu Aswan, Khufu, some other guy)
  • Precognition (Isaac, Usutu, Matt)
  • Regeneration (Claire, Adam, Brendan Lewis)
  • Super speed (Daphne, Santiago, some other guy)
  • Water mimicry ("liquid man," Elisa, Donald Essex)
• So telepathy doesn't beat the record by a long-shot.--Tim Thomason 10:33, 14 April 2009 (EDT)