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Whoo, boy!

Cesar Lemus just sent me the storyboards for the big confrontation scene from tonight's episode. I won't upload them until after the show airs, but I can promise it's going to be a pretty intense scene. It looks like there's going to be some cool special effects, and it's not one to miss. I'm psyched! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:37, 19 November 2007 (EST)

  • I'm sitting here sweating bullets worrying about Noah, myself. D: --AnotherNella 20:18, 19 November 2007 (EST)

This episodes got my heart pounding.

I keep thinking someones gonna get shot. I was sitting there thinking Mohinder was gonna take one straight between the eyes! West's acting isn't the best (Mr. Butler, what are youuu doing?) but the whole episodes got me on the edge of my seat. Putting Elle in water is sick! 5 stars already!--Riddler 21:32, 19 November 2007 (EST)

  • Adam definitely spoke true when he said he would take all that Hiro loved...--Japanimation14 21:44, 19 November 2007 (EST)
    • That wasn't that much of a shocker though. Bob did tell Nathan that it was Adam.--Riddler 21:46, 19 November 2007 (EST)
      • Great episode so far. Totally makes up for last weeks let downs.--Mish(Talk) 21:46, 19 November 2007 (EST)
        • That wasn't surprising. Goodbye, Noah.--Japanimation14 21:54, 19 November 2007 (EST)
          • Trecord, I removed your post 'cause it's still a spoiler. That's not this episode. In any case, dammit Mohinder!--Riddler 21:54, 19 November 2007 (EST)
          • RESTORED: Well, I guess the urn really is Noah's. —TRECORD— Talk/Contrib 21:53, 19 November 2007 (EST) (Restored on the grounds that Noah was shot in this episode, and this episode did show the urn. Besides, talk pages should be used to discuss the merits of deleting something rather than unilaterally censoring something without any input. --TRECORD-- Talk/Contrib 22:19, 19 November 2007 (EST))
            • I think...I just sh** myself...NOEZ!!! NOT F***ING BENNET!!!!!!--DarkPhoenix 21:56, 19 November 2007 (EST)
              • This is officially the worst day of my life. ._.;;; Thrashmeister 21:56, 19 November 2007 (EST)
                • Oh snap. Never mind. :X 22:01, 19 November 2007 (EST)
                • What a twist!!!--Japanimation14 22:00, 19 November 2007 (EST)
                  • New they didnt have the stones to kill Noah!--Mish(Talk) 22:01, 19 November 2007 (EST)
              • Ten minutes prior I was getting through telling my brother than I didn't think injecting the blood would work, as the bullet went through his head and I expected the brain to be dead, but I'm glad it turned out as it did. And I LOVE how they mirrored the first time Claire came back from the dead.--Riddler 22:02, 19 November 2007 (EST)
                    • That mirrored Claire in that one Season One episode...I loved it! "Holy-"--DarkPhoenix 22:03, 19 November 2007 (EST)
                      • Just wondering, did anybody else soil their pants besides me? I know DarkPhoenix did, but... Thrashmeister 22:05, 19 November 2007 (EST)
                        • It was kind of an expected thing for me so I wasn't surprised.--Japanimation14 22:09, 19 November 2007 (EST)
  • Wait, wait, wait... in painting 8/8, Claire and West are so obviously kissing. Yet they're obviously not when the painting is realized. Also, I don't think Mr. Bennet was actually wearing a plaid jacket. Yeah. Thrashmeister 22:16, 19 November 2007 (EST)

Go Matt!

Well, I'm very happy Matt finally got teeth. Adam and Claire can officially resurrect people. Hiro is becoming quite the adult...wow....what an episode.--Mish(Talk) 22:03, 19 November 2007 (EST)

  • How dare he control my poor Angela like that. :[ Speaking of which, does that merit his power to be in line with persuasion? -- Lulu (talk)
    • It's mind control(an interesting kind), not persuasion.--Japanimation14 22:08, 19 November 2007 (EST)
      • One could create a case for persuasion being mind control. So, perhaps my question should be, does this merit persuasion being mind control, however, done vocally? -- Lulu (talk)
        • His powers apparently extend to mind control...which rules out the Angela-has-mind-control theory, which would require her to have telepathy, which she could have blocked Matt out (The red headed chick doesnt count)--DarkPhoenix 22:10, 19 November 2007 (EST)
          • This defintely opens a lot of doors...Hmmmm--Japanimation14 22:12, 19 November 2007 (EST)
          • She fought against Matt's power and her nose bled like Matt fought against the Haitians power and his nose bled. Mental powers seem to not be absolute.--Riddler 22:13, 19 November 2007 (EST)
          • His power is telepathy why change it to mind control? Telepathy covers that and mind reading.--Mish(Talk) 22:15, 19 November 2007 (EST)
  • Oh and GO WEST! He's turning out to be far less a wuss than I previsouly expected!--Mish(Talk) 22:16, 19 November 2007 (EST)
    • Regarding Angela's power, the last episode seemed to indicate her "persuasion powers" may involve touching, and she wasn't touching Matt in the scene (she was handcuffed down).--Tim Thomason 22:24, 19 November 2007 (EST)
      • I didn't get that she had any kind of "persuasion powers" in the last episode or in this one. In fact, I didn't get that she was exhibiting any powers at all in the last two episodes...or the entire series. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:39, 20 November 2007 (EST)
      • According to the episode commentary, Angela touching Heidi was Cristine Rose's choice. It wasn't in the script or from the writers. If her power was some kind of touch-based persuasion, it would have been.--Hardvice (talk) 00:49, 20 November 2007 (EST)
        • Cristine may have been doing the touching hoping that the writers would write something like that in, at least that was my first thought about it, anyways; and I think if that's true then it was a good idea on her part.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:00, 20 November 2007 (EST)

What did we learn tonight?

  1. Bob is the head of the company because "it dies with him".--Mish(Talk) 22:17, 19 November 2007 (EST)
  2. Bob *Bishop* is definitely the father of Elle.--Tim Thomason 22:24, 19 November 2007 (EST)
  3. Joanna Cassidy will be playing Victoria Pratt.--Tim Thomason 22:24, 19 November 2007 (EST)
  4. Ishi Nakamura is no more (and has been since 1990 [subtitle said it was 17 yrs ago]).--Tim Thomason 22:24, 19 November 2007 (EST)
  5. Bob was the "Regional Sales Manager" of Primatech Paper (who was the "CEO" then? Linderman? Petrelli?)--Tim Thomason 22:24, 19 November 2007 (EST)
  6. Bob did horrible things to his own daughter then had the Haitian erase all memory of it.Mish(Talk)
  7. Matt was tempted by the power of his abilities. He may be making a slide into the morally gray...Mish(Talk)
  8. Claire's and Adam's blood can resurrect people.Mish(Talk)
  9. Noah is noticeably concerned about packing Mr. Muggles "doggie bag" (bath?) before they leave Costa Verde. (One of the most dramatic lines in the episode!)--Tim Thomason 22:37, 19 November 2007 (EST)
    • Doggie Bath, it was for the water that made Elle shock herself.--Riddler 22:38, 19 November 2007 (EST)
      • Or it could've been a nice conductor. =P --AnotherNella 22:39, 19 November 2007 (EST)
        • That makes alot more sense now. And here I thought he was being thoughtful for Sandra.--Tim Thomason 22:42, 19 November 2007 (EST)
          • Also, Elle's armed were held down by metal leashes.--Bob (talk) 23:30, 19 November 2007 (EST)
  10. The only members left from the group of twelve are Angela, Victoria, Bob, and Maury.
  11. One possible reason Hiro knew he would one day be able to time travel: he spoke to himself as a kid at the funeral in 1990.
    • That's quite a stretch. Very speculative.--Bob (talk) 23:30, 19 November 2007 (EST)
      • True, it's speculative, but you would think that he would remember the events of his mother's funeral.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:34, 19 November 2007 (EST)
        • The closer the person to me who died, the less I remember from their funeral. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:38, 20 November 2007 (EST)
          • That's kind of sad, but I don't know if it's true in the story. Hiro seemed to be convincing himself that his actions were childish with his speech.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:05, 20 November 2007 (EST)
  12. Elle looks smokin' in a bikini.
    • Yes, Elle was electrifying tonight. :) What did Bob call Elle's pinpoint shocks (when she shocked the glass of water and broke it into pieces)?--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:05, 20 November 2007 (EST)

Episode title image for this week

My pick is Hiro in front of his father's tombstone. It's not spoilerish, and it matches the title 'Caution-ary Tales.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:34, 19 November 2007 (EST)

One thing that did upset me

The whole time Hiro was with Kaito, I expected Kaito to exhibit his power for his son. =[--Riddler 23:50, 19 November 2007 (EST)

  • I assumed he did that when he taught Hiro all those sword skills. But it would have been nice if he revealed his power explicitly to us. Maybe Bennet or Bob'll mention it to Hiro somewhere down the road. Or judging by the "Group of 12" path, Matt'll have a list of powers related to each and every member in a couple of episodes.--Tim Thomason 23:53, 19 November 2007 (EST)
    • I had it set in my mind that it was gonna be like this: "Now I will take us back, father." "No, Hiro... allow me." =/ --AnotherNella 23:55, 19 November 2007 (EST)
      • Then, right before left after saying his goodbyes, Kaito did the scrunchy face! I thought he was going to do something!--Riddler 23:56, 19 November 2007 (EST)
        • That would have been cool...though I was expecting them to go to 1977 in search of answers, not 1990... but I understand that they are saving that part for later. Ishi's death was the same year as the Golden Handshake story, so the whole time of the funeral I was expecting to see other members of the twelve. Anyways, great episode.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:58, 19 November 2007 (EST)

Victoria Pratt as Victoria Pratt???

I think it would be cool if the rl actress Victoria Pratt could star as her namesake when they do the 1977 episode. Wishful thinking? Doesn't she look like a young Joanna Cassidy? (rl Victoria Pratt's IMDb page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0695560/) --MiamiVolts (talk) 23:58, 19 November 2007 (EST)

Credits

$%&@!!!

They shouldn't have brought Mr. Bennet back to life! Deux Ex Machina! >:( >:( >:( --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 01:05, 20 November 2007 (EST)

  • Looks like Mr. Bennet and Hana still have a chance to get together, but how does he escape Primatech this time?--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:09, 20 November 2007 (EST)

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File is loading now, should be up in a few minutes. Requests, above and beyond the obvious stuff?--Hardvice (talk) 01:11, 20 November 2007 (EST)

  • Hiro seeing himself as a kid with a toy sword in his face, Bennet shot (obvious one), Bob introducing Mohinder to Elle. Those are my three main picks. --PeterDawson 01:13, 20 November 2007 (EST)

References to past episodes

Quite a few of them, weren't there? 'I'm just a cheerleader.' The car ride scene. Claire saying Noah can't be trusted. Lyle calling his sister crazy. The Holy sh- scene. Not to mention the 9th episode in both seasons featured a showdown of sorts and had Hiro go back in time. They sure weren't kidding about making it more like the 1st season. --PeterDawson 01:12, 20 November 2007 (EST)

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