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Talk:Lung adaptation

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Source/Explanation
In Berlin, Part 1, Devin describes Bianca's ability as being able to "adapt her lungs to any environment".

Description

"Abnormal Environments" seems a little redundant. The power only really needs "adapt to any environment," which, if I'm not mistaken, is what he said in the novel, no?--Riddler 18:40, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

  • I agree. So we should change it (at least until we get her tracker profile). Shoyru1177 19:04, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
    • I'm fine with either, but "any environment" is said in the novel so I changed it to that.--MiamiVolts (talk) 20:43, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Atmospheric respiration

Last time I checked, underwater areas don't have atmospheres and I don't see atmospheric respiration being derived directly from the dialogue describing her ability. This should stay "lung adaptation" and should not have been changed without first discussing it here first. I've reverted the move. Please discuss first.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:45, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

  • Actually, it's not a literal "atmosphere", if you want to get technical, but it is a breathing medium. If you read the reason why I changed it to atmospheric respiration, you would know that I fashioned the name after "matter ingestion", the ability to eat through any substance without bodily harm (hence atmospheric respiration, the ability to breathe in any BREATHING MEDIUM without bodily harm, despite how dangerous the breathing medium would be to normal humans). Could you change it back or was it too much to ask??? --Shadowulf1 22:04, July 11, 2008
    • To the unsigned commenter: Both "lung" and "adaptation" are terms used or variations of those used in the novel. Neither "atmospheric" nor "respiration" are used in the novel. Terminology used in the novel or in the assignment tracker (which isn't up for Bianca yet) trumps other common names and descriptions. What actually is the correct scientific terms is debatable, but it doesn't matter for the purpose of the article's name.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:55, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
    • Hey, Shadowulf. Have you checked out the naming convention? That governs how we pick the names for abilities demonstrated in the show or in graphic novels. It can be a little complicated at times, but it helps ensure that we pick the most appropriate name for the ability based on what the writers write. (Admin 23:05, 11 July 2008 (EDT))

Adaptation vs. adaptability

Are GNs over Heroes Evolutions since they are in-story? If so, Graphic Novel:Hindsight calls this ability "lung adaptation" so we would revert the name.--MiamiVolts (talk) 07:56, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Strictly speaking, they are equal. Imo, just as MiamiVolts point out, when conflicts arise, it make sence to primary go with in-story referenses. Pierre 11:08, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
Her assignment tracker profile calls it "adaptation". It should probably be changed.--Referos 20:26, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
However according to the profile, it doesn't seems that she can actually adapt to different environment - she's just able to hold her breath for a really long time. Chrisyu357 10:05, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
Not that it matters, but my theory is that her lungs adapt by using anaerobic respiration.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:55, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

Right Picture

Is this the right picture? I don't think this portrays the ability well as it looks more like she is taking a breath than adapting her lungs --Irony 13:48, 16 January 2009 (EST)

I agree. I think we need another picture that shows her using her ability, and maybe one without her in the water so people don't confuse this ability for breathing underwater even though it allows for it(?). --OutbackZack 14:23, 23 February 2009 (EST)
    • There isn't a picture of here actually adapting her lungs, but I do agree so people don't get confused may I suggest the use of this image. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 14:55, 23 February 2009 (EST)

      • I agree with that. --IronyUTC CH 14:46, 24 February 2009 (EST)
        • When are we allowed to change the image. *Sorry, I'm new to this*
          • I am not sure but if no-one disagrees with this choice by this time tomorrow say then I dont see a problem, as it has been discussed and no one objected. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 15:43, 24 February 2009 (EST)

            • You can change the image now, if you want to, so long as there isn't strong opposition. It doesn't look like there is. I like Image:Lungadapt2.jpg, too. Unfortunately, what happens very often is that we create an ability page (or a character page) and use an image of the first appearance; it sometimes goes quite awhile until the picture gets updated, even though there have been other appearances of the ability or character. Worse, sometimes people get really used to a particular image being used to represent an ability or character, and they don't want to see it change. All that said, I think the current image is not the best representation of the image, and I'm in favor of it changing. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:45, 24 February 2009 (EST)
              • There's another image I think might be better. It's the one of her walking around in the gas while everyone else is passed out. It shows that her lungs aren't being affected, and there's also less text.--OutbackZack 16:40, 24 February 2009 (EST)
                • This? Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:56, 24 February 2009 (EST)
                  • I like that one but the text on the new one explains it as well as the image. --IronyUTC CH 17:33, 24 February 2009 (EST)
                    • I prefer that one over the current one. It's the best one that really shows her using her ability. We have text on the page that serves the purpose of explaining the ability. --OutbackZack 00:12, 4 March 2009 (EST)