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== Peter's Empathy? ==
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This is currently the only leads on his new ability, please keep it open for discussion - Arkillion. ( I made the article, so contact me for any serious changes).


Did it seem like peter connected with samuel, or am I crazy?[[User:Fourletterfame|Fourletterfame]] 10:30, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
== Contradiction ==
* I think that was Samuel's goal. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:48, 30 September 2009 (EDT)


== Peter replicating from Emma ==
Wouldn't this contradict a comment that Mohinder stated saying that a persons ability is influenced by the DNA in his/her body? If this is true Peter should have regained Empathic Mimicry minus the abilities he has already mimicked.- Yippee ki ya


It wasn't quite clear when he did it, it was either when he saved her from that bus or when he kept grabbing her on the sidewalk. They seem to have discared the sound effects and visual effects associated with this ability this season.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 13:01, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
The formula was synthetic and as far as we know synthetic formulas aren't EXACTLY similar to an original power, Mohinder's power made him mutate and grow scales and now that he has the real formula inside him he has just super strength and endurance as far as we know.
**I'm positive I heard a sound effect when he kept pestering her on the sidewalk to see if she was ok.[[User:Gamerelite1|Gamerelite1]] 14:47, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
Currently the speculation is that Peter's power is empathic mimicry but temporary and only physically and the shunt may of caused this, who knows. - Arkillion
*** Rewatched episode, there was no sound but they zoomed in on his hands touching her sidearm, so that was the point where he took her ability -- ([[User:WaterRatj|WaterRatj]]) 08:15, 19 October 2009 (EDT)


== Special Effects ==
Couldn't peter be using a variation of power absorption (unknown source) through Empathic mimicry? Because it seems that when a power is mimicked through empathy it needs refining I.E. Elle guiding Sylar, Claude teaching Peter. And when a power is mimicked through Power Absorption it can be used to its full potential nearly instantly I.E. When Arthur used Electrical Manipulation straight after he had taken Peters ability's.- Yippee ki ya


The special effects used to be yellow or gold-ish, but when Peter took Hiro's ability, it was a blue type effect. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 07:54, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
I think that Yippee has a valid theory going. It could quite possibly be that this is simply a new aspect to Peter's ability. Numerous characters from the show have started with one simple ability that has several presentations. An example being Matt's ability to read minds and now put thoughts into peoples heads. Claire's ability to heal as well as her blood being a cure all. I think the name should remain empathic mimicry (NOT Peter's Ability) GraceRunner4000
*Ability special effects have been changed in the past, most glaring example being Candice's illusions. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 13:54, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
**When did Candice's special effects change? --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 15:34, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
***Near the end of season one, the first effect was a ripple one that happened both on her and her surroundings, but they changed it to this morph effect with a bright light, it was sucky compared to the first one. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 15:44, 20 October 2009 (EDT)


== Lost Control ==
I'm sorry Grace but that kind of makes no sense to be honest... So his power allows him to mimic abilities from those in proximity by thinking of them and mimicking what he saw them do, and now it's evolved as a presentation so that he can take powers from physically touching someone?


Anyone else starting to think Peter can't control this ability, like when he touched Emma he accidentally replicated her power. It could explainwhy he didn't just teleport Jeremy. --[[User:Fr0z3nB0nes|Fr0z3nB0nes]] 17:54, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
Long Range - > Short Range
*Most accepted theory is that he replicated it because he could connect with her, kinda like an echo of his original ability. He's still limited to touch, but he doesn't need to actively replicate the ability. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 17:59, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
Mentally -> Physically
**Although we do have to question why he didn't just teleport him to heal hiro. Some of you may say it would have impacted on Noah's storyline about helping Jeremy but he could have just as easily recruited him to his new company. I'm sure he could have found him a home and a healer would be useful to the company. BTW, doesn't Jeremy's hair kinda make him look like a young linderman.... and the same power(ish) too. [[Ability heredity]] anyone? --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 18:14, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
***I thought that myself, someone said in the episode's talk page that Jeremy might kill Peter because he was too nervous, but I don't think that would happen, Jeremy saw that he could heal, and Noah touched him without being killed (though he touched Jeremy's shirt, not his actual skin). [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 18:42, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
****Because if peter teleported jeremy, then the plot line of hiro dying would be over.[[User:Gamerelite1|Gamerelite1]] 15:29, 22 October 2009 (EDT)


== Examples ==
I don't think that qualifies as being better.. I suppose a Long Range Empathic Mimicry with instant use/experience of the power can be done.


Shouldn't we have an examples page now? I noticed there are 12 images there now, instead of the usual 8 we have for ability pages.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 20:28, 23 October 2009 (EDT)
My personal theory is that not only can he mimic powers by touch but he can give them via empathy and that's how Hiro may get a new power >_> by supercharging with Ando or giving him an ability - Arkillion


== Aura absorption ==
I don't think we should list this Peter's ability. There's no other example of someone changing core abilities, saying it's Peter's ability states that he no longer has empathic mimicry, which may or may not be true, saying he got those new abilities through unknown means is 100% correct and doesn't invalidate anything we already know about his ability history, we can't change anything if it invalidates something we already know. Right now, it's nothing but speculative that he has a different ability, as I said already, the "through unknown means" explains it perfectly and we don't risk listing something wrong. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 15:43, 4 February 2009 (EST)


Many fans think Peter's ability will evolve into Arthur's. Why not into Linda's? Physical contact, the glow, the source loses its power... Thoughts? {{User:Altes/Signature}}
I'm feeling that Peter has, in fact, lost empathic mimicry. However, he has acquired a modified version of Arthur's power, the difference being that Peter doesn't steal like his dad does. As for only being able to hold one ability at a time, I think this may be part of the ability being new to Peter, and that with time, he will be able to hold multiple abilities like he could in the past, as well as being able to retain them permanently instead of the temporary use he has now. - [[User:EValentino|EValentino]] 17:08, 5 February 2009 (EST)
*And take people's auras and lives along with it? I don't think he'd do that. Plus, Linda kinda had a hunger herself. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 11:48, 1 November 2009 (EST)
** Personally I wouldn't like Peter become like Arthur or Linda, it's the fans' obsession with Peter's power development what interests me. {{User:Altes/Signature}}
*** Neither [[Power absorption]] nor [[Aura absorption]] really fits Peter. Both Arthur and Linda were "takers" in personality as well as power.--[[User:Cro Magnon|Cro Magnon]] 13:57, 2 November 2009 (EST)


== Draph? ==
I am going to state my opinion again, this time updated. I think that, since peter is new to his power again, that he can only use one power at a time again (like at the end of the episode, why didn't he just fly?), and that physical contact is necessary. And I just resaw the finale from last year and he did fly across the room I believe. --[[User:PRKO|(P)uerto (R)ican (K)nock(O)ut]] 20:53, 5 February 2009 (EST)
* Nope, he didn't fly across the room at Pinehearst in that scene from ''[[Dual]]''. He injected himself, ran to Nathan, grabbed him, and flew out of the building. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:31, 5 February 2009 (EST)


Shouldn't [[Draph]] be added to the list of users of this ability?--[[User:Spexile|Spexile]] 17:08, 3 November 2009 (EST)
== Still Empathic Mimicry? ==
*Hellno--[[User:Yoshi n1|Yoshi n1]] 17:07, 3 November 2009 (EST)
I don't think this is a new power altogether guys. I mean, it isn't through only physical contact. He flew with Nathan's power without touch between the two. I think the "touching glow thingy" is just the visual artists finally showing what empathic mimicry "looks like". I believe, in almost every aspect, it is still empathic mimicry.--[[User:PRKO|(P)uerto (R)ican (K)nock(O)ut]] 15:47, 4 February 2009 (EST)
**Actually, he needs to be. He was in the istory. Although his limits are different to Peter's. I'd wait for the creator to explain it. He is on the wiki. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 17:09, 3 November 2009 (EST)
***Its just not like, fair. There is a whole story how peter got this ability and then some Draph guy comes and he just seems to haves this ability? --[[User:Yoshi n1|Yoshi n1]] 17:21, 3 November 2009 (EST)
****Well, he was originally created on Survival, so odds are, the creator just copied Peter's ability. By the way, don't forget your signature.--[[User:Spexile|Spexile]] 17:17, 3 November 2009 (EST)
*****Chances are there are many people out there with abilities like this. If you get annoyed because characters come in and have the same ability as other characters we've been following then you'll end up hating a lot of the characters. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 17:18, 3 November 2009 (EST)
******Yeah i know it was bullshit. But Draph gots an Assignment Tracker file and why isnt he in the page for all the people who have an assignment tracker case? --[[User:Yoshi n1|Yoshi n1]] 17:21, 3 November 2009 (EST)
*******That doesn't really count. All that counts is what the producers and that choose to show. It's like if Milo Ventimiglia chose to use Hiro Nakamura as a character in his comics. It wouldn't be cannon in the real world. That assignment tracker is fan made and doesn't count unless they add it to the assignment tracker page. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 17:22, 3 November 2009 (EST)
********How could it be fanmade? this was on the heroes : survival site "If a member of HeroesWiki: Go to User:draphoenix to see the assignment tracker of Senna" And lets first start with making Claircognizance,Phoenix Mimicry ,Energy Manipulation and Telephasing AND BTW.. SYLAR GOT CLAIRCOGNIZANCE?? its on the assignment tracker file--[[User:Yoshi n1|Yoshi n1]] 17:27, 3 November 2009 (EST)
*It's fan made, it cant be taken as cannon - {{User:Jenx222/sig2}} 17:31, 3 November 2009 (EST)
**Im sorry but i don't really get it, if its on the Heroes survival OFFICIAL site how could it be a fan made?
***Heroes:Survival is an on-line game where you make your own characters up, it doesn't mean they are part of the actual heroes storyline, also the assignment tracker is on the wiki not the official site, it was made by a fan as was the character - {{User:Jenx222/sig2}} 17:53, 3 November 2009 (EST)
****Did this guy actually appear in the iStory, or is he just a character on Heroes: Survivial? If he hasn't appeared in an iStory chapter yet, then he doesn't need a mainspace page. -{{User:Vampirate68/sig}} | 17:56, 3 November 2009 (EST)
*****But, if the character is used by the iStory writers, they sort of become canon, despite being fan-created. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 17:58, 3 November 2009 (EST)
******Okay, so I guess he does appear. I don't read the iStory (I hate it personally. It just creates useless characters and powers) so I didn't know. I don't think we should create all of the powers he has unless we see him use them. -{{User:Vampirate68/sig}} | 18:00, 3 November 2009 (EST)
*******Just checked it, he does actually appear, but I don't think we should create pages for all those abilities yet, they seem a little "out there", it's this sort of stuff that ruins heroes for me - {{User:Jenx222/sig2}} 18:06, 3 November 2009 (EST)


Oh $@#&! THAT I never expected: some random guy appears with the same ability as Peter, who acquired it under very special circumstances. Meh... Didn't Draph absorb this ability from his brother? {{User:Altes/Signature}}
*I have to agree, [[Peter]]'s and [[Sylar]]'s powers have practicly no limits and there for the capacity to alter or expaind their powers is always present. Peter was under the influense of drugs, he wouldn't have fully accepted [[Mohinder]]'s gift in the taxi, otherwise it would have needed to be explained to him. this 'new' power kis just another way to use his initial ability. something like this was seen when Sylar took [[Elle]]'s power with out killing.[[User:Halfbreed1426|Halfbreed1426]] 21:06, 4 February 2009
*Special in-uterus circumstance it seems, but it wasn't acquired, it was given, it appears. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 11:33, 4 November 2009 (EST)
** While I am partially prone to say this too, anything we say on the matter that has not been revealed in an episode/GN/Interview is speculation, so the page stays. Halfbreed, please remember to sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes (<tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> ). {{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}}
** And what's the difference? {{User:Altes/Signature}}
*** Actually, Peter ''did'' touch Nathan before he flew. In ''[[Dual]]'', Peter injected himself with the formula, ran and grabbed Nathan, then flew out of Pinehearst. ''Heroes'' has always used effects that are unique to certain powers (Matt's camera jumps, Nathan's flying "swoosh", VFX for Hiro's ability). This is a new one that we haven't really seen before. More importantly, Peter has always been able to hold on to more than one power. Now, he doesn't seem to be able to--he didn't have any more strength when he got Tracy's freezing power, and he was afraid of being sucked out of the plane, despite having previously been able to fly. I also know that the producers have always been interested in grounding Peter, seeing as he's been deemed as being "too powerful"--this is a perfect way to do it. Of course, I could be wrong, and we'll hopefully learn more next week...but I think for now we're safe in not calling it empathic mimicry. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 17:15, 4 February 2009 (EST)
*** So far, all we've seen is abilities being duplicated without the holder losing them, or else the ability being stolen against one's wishes. From what I could tell, in this case, the holder of the ability willingly passed on the ability to another person. I'm not 100% sure that's what happened, but it seems to be. For more info, you should ask the guy who made the character. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 11:55, 4 November 2009 (EST)
**** I did receive confirmation of some sort that the observations we made were intentional and aspects of this new ability. This confirmation included that as of this afternoon the writers didn't have a specific name for his new ability yet. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 17:18, 4 February 2009 (EST))
**** But we at least should add that Draph's brother also had this ability before he died, and Draph didn't initially have it. Right? {{User:Altes/Signature}}
***** Thanks, Admin. That's good to know. It's encouraging to know that we're on the right track. I'm also fine with no new name. (I've never been under the assumption that every ability needs a name.) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 17:37, 4 February 2009 (EST)
***** Fine by me. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 12:28, 4 November 2009 (EST)
****** While I agree that this shouldn't have a name yet, I think 'Power Mimicry' is a good name to describe this. But I'm sure in the next few episodes we'll get more information on the extent of his new ability. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 19:49, 4 February 2009 (EST)
****** Draph's Ability Replication is just as different from Peter's as Knox's strength is different from Niki's and Ando's ability is different from that Hawkins. Ability Replication was a source of guilt and pain for Draph. So, similar to others, he goes through his personal demons so he doesn't become overpowered. Moreover, there are other mimics out there in the heroes canon universe. Claude is disheartened that Peter was an empath. He knew of others and so did others. AS for ripping off peter, his Matt Parkman rip of Prof X? Well, yea. Thing is, almost nothing in this archtype is origonal anymore. And if it is origonal, people hate it for taking that leaps, look at Enhanced Synthesiza. [[User:Draphoenix|Draphoenix]] 10:52, 6 November 2009 (EST)
******* '''Power mimicry''' is pretty good, but if it is a one-at-a-time deal, then perhaps something to the effect of '''temporary power mimicry''' or '''selective power mimicry''' might be more accurate. That said, we're sure to see more of this power in the coming weeks. --[[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] ([[User talk:Ricard Desi|t]],[[Special:Contributions/Ricard Desi|c]]) 12:07, 5 February 2009 (EST)
* Sorry but, what the hell ? So what, holding MORE THAN ONE POWER makes the thing a totally different power ! I mean, it's just another ability that can mimic, but since Peter was supposed to be THE hero and will be stuck with the crappy "one ability at a time" power, I don't think it's fair to put Draph there, saying it's more advanced ! Peter is not "not advanced", he just can't do more with it. (Because they already don't know how to handle him with one power, and because the budget was cut severely) It changes the whole concept of the power. Robert Forster said he could take powers away if he was willing to, implying he could let people with it. So it's as close as power absorption then ability replication. I mean, come on, now, that just makes Peter seem even more lame, as if it was possible. There is enough Sylar to remember us Peter is not as powerful as he should be, but if some random guy involved in a crappy story got the same ability, only mastering it 100 times better, that just makes Peter the weakest hero ever... I'm personally against. Till it is not proven Peter's power can hold several powers (mastered or not), I don't think they should be considered as being the same power. And, Draph's one looks pretty passive. So what, he just copy people passively and storing all the abilities ? It's closer to empathic mimicry then ! I mean, create another ability which involves mimicry but I don't think it's fair to give him Peter's new one. And what the hell is that story anyway, with all those powers taking away and stuff... >_< Please, don't do that to Peter, he doesn't deserve that. As far as "empaths" are few in the Heroes universe, we haven't seen much of them, apart from Peter and Sylar's papas. An probably won't, ever, since even only two was already too much for the shown and Peter is the lamest empath ever, so I think they'll stick to Sylar... And that : "According to Draph's Heroes Survival Account, Draph can hold on to a maximum of five abilities. A hindering factor of Draph's ability is that each of the five abilities must have a different elemental attribute given to them. "
How can this be considered as Ability replication ? I mean now it has to be 5 different elemental powers, and only 5 ?! They'll never do that on the show, come on, it's not Peter's power... Moreover, it has been hinted (while not confirmed) that all those mimics/empaths have the same core ability, that they access in different ways, according to their personality (before Peter's injection with the formula). So whatever happens, Draph CAN'T have Peter's power, since we have "power absorption" "empathic mimicry" etc..., they are considered as different powers, matching their owners. Draph must have his own mimic ability (let's not even talk about the elemental limit huh ?).
****** Its Ability replication because it is the same type of acquisition, touching. Not aura, not full absorption, not understanding their ability. [[User:Draphoenix|Draphoenix]] 22:30, 10 November 2009 (EST)


== Really empathic mimicry? ==
*I think it might be (Just a Random theroy, dont wanna start new page incase it gets delted in a week or so),But it could be power transfer.--Drwho113
* For this "new power" does he also take the powers from them or just absorbs them?
** Doubt it as Nathan could still fly after Peter absorbed his ability to get them out of Pineherst [[User:Garthak|Garthak]] 10:10, 6 February 2009 (EST)


* I'm not suggesting this be published as fact right now, but there have been hints that this ability is really just empathic mimicry (eg - Edgar claiming he has met "an empath"). We know that abiities change over time, and while they usually expand, there is no real reason why they couldn't be limited instead by this "evolution." I accept that (since we have Arthur (even though he's a liar) telling Peter he lost his power for good and the way in which Peter reobtained an ability (the serum)), we have to assume it's a new ability for now, but I really think they are moving toward it being the same ability he has always had (and have left hints to that effect). Of course, it's been a little while since I've seen the previous seasons, so I might be forgetting something, but until someone can come up with/remind me of something that proves this cannot be EM, I'm sticking to my guns. ;) --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 12:25, 13 November 2009 (EST)
*I believe that this is his power developing again. We never saw how he gained his mother's power or even Nathan's. Maybe it starts and grows into being able to hold more. And then eventually how it was? [[User:Three|Three]] 18:29, 6 February 2009 (EST)
**Nothing suggests an ability can evolve in a way that restricts its effects. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 12:33, 13 November 2009 (EST)
***I think what he means is that Ability Replication could evolve into Empathic mimicry, a topic that has been debated to death already -{{User:Vampirate68/sig}} | 12:59, 13 November 2009 (EST)
****Nothing suggests an ability absolutely cannot evolve in a way that restricts its effects either, and ability evolution and how it works is far from clear. And I disagree that that "nothing suggests" an ability cannot be restricted via evolution. Off the top of my head (obviously, you can launch counterarguments to all of these points, but I do think that all of them together certainly at least ''suggests'' that an ability may be able to be limited as it evolves):
****# One could make the argument that Maya's control over her power was part of it's evolution, and thus it was a direct restriction of the effects of said ability.
****# Also, one could make an argument for Jeremy's ability doing this, depending on perspective. On the one hand, one could say his ability evolved to include giving AND taking life. On the other, one could argue it was restricted during the period when he could no longer heal things (likely due to his deteriorating mental state) but only kill them.
****# We have also seen characters able to use their abilities and then unable to (often due to mental blocks and the such), even though they still retained their power, and so that could be argued to be part of the abilities evolution (ie - the person needs to adapt to having the ability to use it).
****# We also have Tracy, who can apparently no longer use the solid form (ice) of her ability, though it is debatable whether or not water trumps ice ;).
****# Finally, we have Hiro and Arnold, both of whom have had their abilities limited over time with no outside catalyst (like the formula).
*****I was actually suggesting it wasn't ability replication at all, and that a remnant of Peter's ability remained even beyond Arthur's absorption of it, and has re-manifested (due to the formula) in a currently restricted way (it seems pretty convenient that he'd gain such a similar ability, even going with the whole idea of a genetic makeup being predisposed toward a certain ability). It has indeed been debated to death, but, afaik, not since new info (ie - Peter being directly called an 'empath,' albeit from a poor source) has come to light. In any case, I was just putting this here now in case we get more definitive evidence that it is the same as his original power (and that the formula just "got it going again"), and am still not suggesting we reopen the official debate or change anything on the site. --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 01:02, 15 November 2009 (EST)
******In my opinion, Edgar calling Peter an "Empath" was probably just due to the nature of replicating abilities. It's possible that Peter (other than useless Draph) is the first and only example of this particular tactile mimicry, and Edgar simply assumed that he had empathic mimicry. Being associated with the carnival, and a wide variety of different abilities, not to mention the current theory that Joseph himself was a mimic, Edgar probably recognized the effects of that ability from previous experience, and recounted it to Samuel as Empathic Mimicry. I could be mistaken, but it's really the only conclusion that makes sense. In essence Peter is still a mimic, it's only the method that's changed. Assuming that it's a unique ability, to an observer unfamiliar with it, it would look, just like empathic mimicry. [[User:Fourletterfame|Fourletterfame]] 01:26, 15 November 2009 (EST)
*******Maya getting more control over her ability is an evolution, but not a restrictive form. She has more control, but she was still able to affect everyone in her range, she didn't lose that ability when she gained control. Jeremy being able to kill only is a psychological effect, not a biological restriction. Same with people who were afraid of using their abilities, they can do it, they just don't want to because they're scared. Nothing suggests Tracy was ever able to become solid ice, she froze because she was wet and used the ice part of her power, she's still able to freeze things, as shown when she attacked Noah and Edgar. Hiro and Arnold have nothing to do with the catalyst. Hiro became sick because he started doing something with his ability that he wasn't supposed to, taking people to his "frozen time" perspective. We know nothing about Arnold, he could have simply developed cancer because of his old age. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 08:22, 15 November 2009 (EST)
********As I said, you can launch counterarguments to all of the examples presented. however, those are more subjective than "fact," and counter-counterarguments can be made as well.
# If you assert that Maya's control over her power was an evolution that was not restrictive, than when she loses control that would be the restrictive form, and she does lose control prior to gaining it, at least momentarily (and almost kills crazy-Mohinder before he convinces her not to).
# Jeremy's "switch" was most likely a psychological effect, and this has happened to others as well. However, to say that there was no biological shift along with it is presuming (as is saying there ''is'' a biological shift with it), and thus inconclusive. The biology/physiology of these abilities has never, to my knowledge, been made clear. We have a random comment about codons in Season 1 with regards to Sylar, some very vague comments by Mohinder connecting it to adrenaline later, and an aside by Angela about Nathan being "predisposed" toward gaining an artificial power, and that is about all we know about the biology side, afaik. That hardly lets us know what is going on, and is not remotely enough information to make conclusions about how the psychological/biological effects play into the powers evolving. And "power evolution" can be argued to be psychological as well, in any case. Peter's control over his initial ability was far more psychological than biological in S1 (the evidence suggests), if you consider his control an evolution of his powers (though obviously that was not restrictive).
# I'm not sure what you mean about Tracy. You say nothing suggests she could become solid and then state she froze by using the ice part of her power...ice is the solid phase of water. However, I did forget that she still uses her power to freeze, so I withdraw that particular example.
# When are we told what aspect of his power made Hiro sick? I have only seen each episode once, so may have missed it, but I don't recall that being stated at all. Nor do I recall it being stated that any aspect of his ability was an "improper" use of power. I'm also not sure what you mean by "the catalyst." Are you talking about [[Catalyst|this]]? If so, what does that have to do with the evolution of abilities? That was just what allowed the formula to bond to human DNA, not what determines powers evolving (and it had a lot to do with Hiro, as he ''was'' the catalyst until Arthur stole it from him ;)). As for Arnold, it is all speculation at this point, but we do know that his his body was unable to stand the strain of using the ability to teleport Charlie, and that is why he died...not because of cancer (iirc....Samuel told this to Hiro directly...whether Samuel is lying is another matter...). I ''think'' it was also stated a few times that the strain of using the power is what put Arnold in his current condition, but I'd have to go back and check for specific examples on that front. --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 04:29, 16 November 2009 (EST)
*********What I meant about Tracy is that she didn't become solid ice, she became ice because she used the cold/ice part of her ability while soaking wet. Masi Oka revealed the source of Hiro's cancer, though I can't remember where exactly, other users might be able to tell you that. We don't usually take everything actors say about their character as fact, but the lack of any other statement leaves that as the only explanation, so until any other official source says it, Hiro couldn't control his ability properly and developed a cancer because he didn't freeze in time alone, he started bringing people with him, when he freezes time while touching someone, they don't freeze in time, they stay in the same reference as Hiro. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 12:07, 16 November 2009 (EST)
************ Interesting. I was unaware of Masi's comments, and would be interested to read them, but I will certainly take your word for it. I can't think of a specific example offhand, but that just ''feels'' like it contradicts what we've seen in the show so far. If I have tme (which is rare these days, unfortunately), I'll have to go back and look at future Hiro and Peter and the present dfay Season 1's and see if they ever did that back then. --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 15:10, 16 November 2009 (EST)


== Upcoming corrections needed ==
*It is more than posible that he just lost control of the power that he gained from [[Mohinder]], not the power it self. In Genesis, [[Peter]] needed to be near the source of the mimiced power, due to the fact that he is now selectively taking abilities he could only conciously use one at a time. after being hit by the capture team member, he lost consious control and, by accident, took [[Tracy]]'s ability, and with out proper use, froze the wall and made it shatter. [[User:Halfbreed1426|Halfbreed1426]] 11:27, 7 February 2009 (EST)
** [[User:Admin|Admin]] said he received confirmation ([[#Still Empathic Mimicry?|see here]]) that our observations (including that Peter can only hold on to [[#One ability at a time|one ability at a time]]) were correct and that those changes were intentional. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:36, 7 February 2009 (EST)


The article states: "Peter can currently only hold one ability at a time, losing access to his previous ability once he absorbs a new one." <br />Then, a bit later: "It is unclear if his ability is dependent on his hands, or what would happen if he came into contact with someone with multiple abilities, like Sylar or even someone with a passive ability like Claire Bennet, or if he can replicate multiple abilities at once by touching two evolved humans simultaneously."<br /> We have now seen Peter come into contact with someone with several abilities. I would, however, suggest that we wait another week or two to see exactly what occurred (whether Peter now has all of Sylar's abilities, or has to actively choose which single one he wants when using his power....though it is very likely the former, as the latter has inherent problems). --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 06:53, 23 November 2009 (EST)
* I can guarantee Peter has currently only one ability : Flight.--[[User:Kleith|Kleith]] 07:48, 23 November 2009 (EST)
** How can you guarantee that? --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 22:18, 23 November 2009 (EST)
***He doesn't have another ability he discarded healing.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 22:22, 23 November 2009 (EST)
*** Well in Thanksgiving, Sylar pinned Peter down with Telekinesis, if Peter had other abilities, he might have escaped from Sylar's 'grip.' Granted maybe Peter didn't know, but he didn't even try to see if had other powers. Although I do believe he did try and struggle but he failed. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 22:26, 23 November 2009 (EST)


== The amount of abilities Peter can have ==
*i think that if he touches matt jr his original power empathic mimicry will return. 24 march 2009


It looks like he can currently only have one even if he replicates from Sylar, but he seems to be able to control which one he gets. He clearly wanted flight and got that one from him. Its still not clear if he took shape shifting on purpose or not or if he just activated his replication and took what he could get that time. I think that time he took what he could get because, as I've said earlier, who would want shape shifting in a battle??? He discarded that one pretty quick too so I doubt he'd gotten more than that the first time either considering the range of abilities Sylar had. This time he took flight to keep up with Sylar as Nathan and discarded it as it didn't fit with what he needed. That was pretty damn smart of him to take mental manipulation to face Sylar. I think he purposly had that ability deactivated when Sylar attacked him so that he could catch Sylar by surprise with him thinking he was just going to drug him again, which did work. I think though he and Nathan should have used the chance to kill Sylar once and for all while they had mental manipulation and Nathan's control on their side. He's also clearly a better physical fighter than in earlier seasons too given his fights with Edgar and Sylar.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 15:11, 1 December 2009 (EST)
== Seriously....is this article a joke? ==
*Basically, I think Peter can choose what ability he takes from a multiple-powered individual, but ''only'' if he knows exactly what he's looking for. As you point out, Shape-shifting is not the ideal combat power. Out of Sylar's absorbed powers at that time, Disintegration would be (as it is the only ability in play that could bypass his regeneration). Logically then, if Peter could pick from any of Sylar's powers, he'd have taken that and killed him on the spot. Since he didn't, I infer that he couldn't, as it makes no logical sense for him not to- we know that he can choose an ability because of Brother's Keeper. Out of the powers Peter knew Sylar had, Shape-shifting or Regeneration were the only logical choices as Sylar would heal from any damage inflicted by the offensive powers. Claire's power wouldn't actually help him deal with Sylar, so he picked Shape-shifting to trick him later. Later, he knew Sylar could fly, so he chose to steal that power to track him. [[User:Swmystery|Swm]] 13:36, 2 December 2009 (EST)
**The first time just isn't clear enough. Why would he want to try and trick him ''later'' when he's battling him ''now''??? Sylar ''can'' be hurt, he just can't be ''killed''. I can think of ways that something like telekinesis could be used against him and electrical manipulation can clearly ''hurt'' him given It's Coming. All he had to do was just knock him out. Regenerators can be knocked out, they recover eventually, but that doesn't stop them from getting hurt enough to get knocked out say if Peter used telekinesis to overturn the piano on his head.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 14:01, 2 December 2009 (EST)
***The way I see it, the plan from even before Pete and Nathan went in was to take Shapeshifting. They knew they couldn't take him in a fight. They weren't trying to fight him, just to get Peter close enough to take Shapeshifting. --[[User:EkimCF|EkimCF]] 19:27, 2 December 2009 (EST)


** We don't know that disintegration would bypass regeneration, do we? --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 20:11, 2 December 2009 (EST)
I mean I would understand if this was something unique that doesn't have any similarity to any other ability, but come on. This looks exactly like Arthur's ability 100%. This new one is just a waste of space. [[User:Horrorman|Horrorman]] 17:29, 4 February 2009 (EST)
***I concur with EkimCF. The plan was always for them to get shapeshifting, I think. Why else would they go charging in there knowing the best they could do would be to knock him out? As soon as he woke up again they'd be screwed. While you are correct about the possible damage that can be done to him through offensive powers, it would be suicide to take them. Example: Peter takes lightning and shocks Sylar. He regenerates from the burns, like he did with Elle, and splits open his throat with TK. Not the best idea. I'm pretty sure Disintegration would bypass regeneration, as there's nothing left to regenerate- the brain, body, everything would be destroyed. There's also an orange flash that can be seen right at the end of the scene where Claire's eye is at the door, meaning Peter's power. By then, they'd probably realised they'd lost that skirmish, and so moved to the other plan using shape-shifting. [[User:Swmystery|Swm]] 06:44, 5 December 2009 (EST)
:Not really. It seems to be the common thinking that with this ability, Peter can only hold onto one ability at a time. This was supported in the show, when Peter got his ass handed to him after taking Tracy's ability, and when he couldn't just fly back into the plane when he was about to fall out. It's definitely different. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 17:32, 4 February 2009 (EST)
**** If their plan was just to let Peter take shape shifting, why would Nathan risk his life? {{User:Altes/Signature}} 06:52, 5 December 2009 (EST)
::And as Admin stated above, these observations were intentional. It's very similar to power absorption, but it's not power absorption. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 17:38, 4 February 2009 (EST)
***** It's worst than that, they didn't know there was a syringe able to take Sylar down that Noah was bringing with him ! (And they had no phone so he clearly didn't call them) So even if this could have been their plan, there is no way it could have worked since the timing was way too short ! Then, Peter and Nathan states they want to "cut that son of a bitch in two", Nathan said Peter could do whatever Sylar could do. Excuse me but that absolutely doesn't sound as "Peter can take another form too" but more "my brother can be Sylar's equal". Why would they charge on him otherwise ? It was obvious they were gonna fail. Nathan flew Sylar out because he was killing Peter. Peter went immediately for Nathan so that proves it wasn't planned, it's only HRG that stopped him and that's when the "other plan" took place. I think Peter took shapeshifting because as said above, other powers, while being more powerful, would have ended up useless... Or maybe Peter only got one shot to grab a power and didn't really had the time to take whatever he wanted. It doesn't make sense otherwise since Peter almost got killed in that fight ! (And Nathan did die!) They could have easily ask Hiro or Peter could have taken his power and cut Sylar's head, I don't know... Moreover, Sylar moved his KILL spot, but a deep injury into the brain MUST turn him off, like Claire and Peter. The brain can't work if obstructed by an object of some sort, if deep enough.--[[User:Kleith|Kleith]] 07:12, 5 December 2009 (EST)
::: That, and when Arthur would take an ability, the victim would lose it. We haven't that with Peter taking abilities yet. Less importantly, but still significantly, the visual effects are different for the two powers. When Arthur would steal an ability, whisps would flow from the victim to Arthur--almost as though it was the person's "spirit" or a figment of that person. Those whisps were often external. With Peter, the visual flow never left the hands; the effect was somewhat different. Additionally, [[User:Admin|Admin]] said he received confirmation that this is a new power (see [[#Still Empathic Mimicry?|here]]). -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 17:41, 4 February 2009 (EST)
****** If Peter can choose, why didn't he simply take Telekinesis and decapitate Sylar? He could have done that with one quick swipe of the finger and Sylar wouldn't be able to come back from that at all! Plus, if Nathan distracted Sylar, Peter would have had plenty of time to choose what ability he wanted.--[[User:Hiroman|Hiroman]] 05:03, 9 January 2010 (EST)
:::: When Arthur touched someone and stole their power you could usually see an act of pain upon the person aswell as part of their sort of "spirit" leaving them such as with Maya. Of course Peter touched by Tracy and Mohinder and you only saw light illuminating their hands this was probably done to show something happened like with Matt's telepathy. - Arkillion
******* He probably can choose, but only if given the proper amount of time and focus. Peter still seems to take other's abilities at random whenever in a tense situation (on the plane with Tracy and when saving Emma), so the same may occur when he tried to take from Sylar the first time. He took shapeshifting because he grabbed Sylar in the midst of a fight, and wasn't able to focus long enough to take a specific ability. Also, Kleith, we can't assume that Nathan knows the full extent of Peter's powers. I also agree with Stevehim, we've seen "disintergration" used ONCE on a ceramic figure, and for some reason we all assume that it makes the user omnipotent. That's ridiculously speculative.--[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP|Need further explanation?]] 13:31, 9 January 2010 (EST)
::::: What this looks like is a sort of "middle-ground" between the two. Perhaps this is Peter's original power, but because it was returned synthetically, it is slightly less powerful than before. --[[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] ([[User talk:Ricard Desi|t]],[[Special:Contributions/Ricard Desi|c]]) 18:11, 4 February 2009 (EST)
:::::: Interesting Theory but it still dulls it down to a simple fact that Peter thought of Mohinder and touched him for his power, showing us that he PROBABLY knew his power but chose not to use it, however when he touched Tracy he didn't even think of her he just had her power so I'm guessing this is Empathic mimicry but physically with a limitation - Arkillion.
:::::::*I suspect it's because of an altered formula that Peter now has this "Tactile Mimicry" allowing him to absorb abilities through physical contact, he has the abilities in there, he just needs to learn how to trigger them using this new method, the effect for absorbing them didn't show when Mohinder grabbed Peter to stop him from being sucked out, so it is possible that it's still there and the original owner still has theirs.--[[User:Garthak|Garthak]] 14:06, 5 February 2009 (EST)
::::::: Though Arthur stole Peter's abilities, I doubt Peter lost the genetic imprint required for abilities. I just think that when he took the formula, he regained a variation of his power. Maybe his ability is still empathic but it's just not psionic anymore but tactile, even though I don't like the word tactile. Or maybe even, this is how his ability first manifested--through touch. I mean, look at it this way: babies connect with someone empathically through touch, right? Wouldn't it be wierd if a baby empathized with someone by just being around them. Possibly, his powers started out on by simply touching another and connecting with them that way, and as he grew, he began to connect emotionally, not necessarily by touch, but by being around people. This basically could be a reboot. I don't mean to toot my own horn, but with my theory, it makes senses. But just in case, some of you guys aren't so sure about my theory, didn't Peter touch everybody he mimicked in the past somewhere along the line (i.e. Elle, Charles, Claire, Nathan, Angela, Sylar, Isaac, Hiro, Claude, Niki, Flint, Daphne, etc.) [[User:Titan3510|Titan3510]] 20:39, 6 February 2009 (EST)


== Intuitive Aptitude?==
== One ability at a time ==
What would happen (I couldn't imagine this would be anything but opinion) if Peter absorbed Sylar's Intuitive Aptitude and (Completely out of character-ly) cut open someone's head and took their ability? Would he keep that ability forever or lose it when he lost Intuitive Aptitude? -Zaxbeez
*Sylar seems to require his IA to use his other abilities- that's why the hunger is always present when he has access to his powers. However, if Peter did mimic his IA and go on a killing spree, his ability replication would become somewhat redundant anyway. Why bother taking someone's ability temporarily if you can get it permanantely by either killing them or making an emotional connection? If the hunger didn't eat Peter alive like it did in Volume 3, he'd probably opt for the latter. [[User:Swmystery|Swm]] 06:41, 26 January 2010 (EST)
**The even more speculative, hypothetical scenario would be, he took Intuitive aptitude, used it to acquire (by force or through empathy) an ability or two, and then disposed of IA- would he retain the powers gained through IA or not? Totally speculative, but an interesting thought.--[[User:EvilMaldini|Evil Maldini]] 11:12, 6 February 2010 (EST)
If Sylar tells Peter that he can gain abilities empathically, through his Intuitive Aptitude and replicate this, then empathically connect with Sylar(although I don't how they do this.) he could gain empath this could help connect with people easily and gain more than one ability.--50000JH 16:04, 10 May 2010 (EDT)


== Who likes this power? ==
Peter gained Mohinder's strength and fought a guard. Then he gained Tracy's freezing ability--but he didn't seem to have any strength when fighting the guard again. Earlier, he was able to fly, but then was visible worried about being thrown into the sky. I believe these two events are pretty strong evidence that he can only hold on to one ability at a time. Additionally, [[User:Admin|Admin]] received some confirmation that the observations are aspects of this Peter's new ability ([[#Still Empathic Mimicry?|see here]]). I assume that part of these observations include only being able to hold on to one ability at a time. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 18:26, 4 February 2009 (EST)
* That's correct, the point that he only was able to hold onto one ability at a time was one of the observations (e.g. when he suddenly found himself weak when fighting one of the guards) concerning his new ability. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 01:32, 5 February 2009 (EST))
*My theory is that Peter is still getting used to his [[Peter's ability|new power]], and therefore isn't capable of holding on to more than one [[ability]] at a time yet. The other possibility is that, in fact, Peter can only have one at a time. And that makes me sad. [[User:EValentino|EValentino]] 17:13, 5 February 2009 (EST)
* If that's true, seems like the writers found a great way to make Peter a little less powerful. But that's a bit disappointing. But I can live with that. :) --[[User:Alen76|Alen76]] 10:57, 8 February 2009 (EST)
* Personally I can't. Peter was a cool character with his ability, over-powered at times but at least he was a hero. Now Sylar is the most powerful, which means a serial killer with no limits. --[[User:Steelymcbeam|Steelymcbeam]] 11:04, 8 February 2009 (EST)
* I have mixed feelings. The new limits are interesting, and Peter WAS too powerful before. But I'm afraid Sylar would make mincemeat of him now.--[[User:Cro Magnon|Cro Magnon]] 11:26, 8 February 2009 (EST)
** It makes you want to watch and find out, doesn't it! -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:28, 8 February 2009 (EST)
* Don't be worrying. Sylar doesn't seem to want anything to do with Peter anymore. Sylar's always been more powerful, he won most of the fights they had (Kirby plaza hardly counts as a Peter victory, he didn't manage to defeat Sylar, only subdue him slightly) In Dying of the Light, I think Peter only won by using Intuitive Aptitude (Understanding how Lightning works, then unleashing it with a new degree of control) People are gonna argue with me on this, but I don't care. At any rate, I'm doubting there is gonna be many Sylar/Peter battles now, and i like this new power, as Pete was WAY to powerful before. [[User:Lightningguy|Lightningguy]] 20:17, 8 February 2009 (EST)
*On another note if Peter touched Sylar would he then be able to duplicate his original power? And all the powers he has taken from his victims? or just one? [[User:TheHunter|TheHunter]] 03:38, 9 February 2009 (EST)
*Maybe if Peter touched Sylar, he'd gain [[intuitive aptitude]] and be able to learn more than one power at a time? [[User:EValentino|EValentino]] 15:00, 9 February 2009 (EST)
**Yeah, but he might have to do it the same way Sylar does, by slicing open their skull!--[[User:Cro Magnon|Cro Magnon]] 19:36, 9 February 2009 (EST)


I know a lot of people don't like this ability because he went from Peter having 15 abilities, to just one at a time. But who does like this ability? I just want to know that. I am kind of a fan of this ability. Believe me that I would rather have Peter with empathic mimicry again, but this is a pretty cool power. So again, I just want to know the people who '''''do like / don't mind''''' this ability. I don't want to see people who don't.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 17:57, 9 February 2010 (EST)
== Does this make sense to anyone? ==
*I do like it, yes. If I couldn't have any of the other powerful copy abilities then I would love this one. Pick any ability you want, just remember to keep a phonebook incase you need to change it. I honestly think the main reason people don't like it is because Peter has it after having EM. Otherwise, it it was just another character, like Draph, who came in with it, they'd be fine with it. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 18:06, 9 February 2010 (EST)
**Peter was too overpowered with EM, unless someone hugged him. I like him with this one, he seems to think things out more instead of rushing in blindly with no plan, hoping all his abilities would help the situation.--[[User:Ratclaws|Ratclaws]] 18:22, 9 February 2010 (EST)
***Well, I like the ability but I dont like Peter having this ability.--{{User:Yoshi n1/sig1}} 18:25, 9 February 2010 (EST)
****I prefer this ability to Peter's old one by far. Empathic Mimicry is an entirely overpowered ability that always turns the wielder into a living god. The only question is how long this process will take. I never want to see such a character darken my TV screen again, which puts me in direct opposition to most fans who seemed to love the fact that Peter could slap anyone except Sylar around without trouble. This power, by contrast, has done wonders for Peter's character as he's been forced to use his head more, and has no danger of making the wielder too strong. [[User:Swmystery|Swm]] 18:32, 9 February 2010 (EST)
*****I actually do like this power as it forces him to think tactically, he can't just walk in and dominate (like another [[Sylar|certain someone]]). However, I think he should get some type of limited EM back, where he has to know the person for a good amount of time, rather then a few seconds before he begins to use their power. Heck, I'd even take a lame explanation like "When Nathan died, Peter's heart was permanently broken, and he'll never make such quick empathic connections again. ''Ever''."--[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] - [[User Talk:PJDEP|Need further explanation?]] 19:20, 9 February 2010 (EST)
******Like people said, I like that this ability came with a brain, because Peter's wasn't very sharp. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:19, 9 February 2010 (EST)
******* [[User:Altes|Altes]] likes this power. {{User:Altes/Signature}} 06:37, 10 February 2010 (EST)
******** I like it. EM would be a great power to have, but a terrible power to write. Peter HAD to be an idiot to compensate for that power. AR is both versatile and limited, and Peter has to use his head sometimes to deal with more limited power.--[[User:Cro Magnon|Cro Magnon]] 12:09, 11 February 2010 (EST)
********* I like the ability and how it makes you think which power is more important, but I don't like Peter with it. Peter should have multiple abilities. And I don't like how they gave Sylar Peter's original ability making him "the most special", they obviously think that Sylar can have more than one because his apparently so great, but Peter is dumb. They could of wrote Peter with a "brain" with multiple abilities, as they do with Sylar so they are just lousy writers. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 00:52, 12 February 2010 (EST)
********** I like it. His new ability makes him the opposite if Sylar, having only one ability at a time and needing people to help him. --[[User:Decimo|Decimo]] 14:15, 28 February 2010 (EST)


== Different Name? ==
What if this ability is still Empathic mimicry, but it has altered due to his state of mind? If he is no longer willing to connect with people, a severe change from the old Peter, then this may have affected his ability as his is such an emotional power.--[[User:Steelymcbeam|Steelymcbeam]] 02:50, 5 February 2009 (EST)
* [[User:Admin|Admin]] received confirmation that Peter has a new ability. [[#Still Empathic Mimicry?|See here]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:56, 5 February 2009 (EST)
*I think its a slightly altered version of Empathic Mimickry but it should have its own page.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 11:18, 5 February 2009 (EST)
*Mohinder Suresh's formula combined with Dr Zimmerman's version might have something to do with this.--[[User:Garthak|Garthak]] 14:04, 5 February 2009 (EST)
* It's confirmed to be a 'new' ability, Tim Kring and Milo Ventimiglia mentioned it on the episode commentary. [http://heroesspoilers-odi.blogspot.com/2009/02/episode-3x14-proof-of-peters-new.html]. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 20:17, 7 February 2009 (EST)


I think this Ability should have a different name, because "Replication" means making copies. I would think this power would have the name "Single Replication" or something like that. Replication doesn't tell the whole story behind the ability enough like Empathic Mimicry would mean Copying through Emotion or using through emotion. Ability Replication wouldn't be much different then Empathic Mimicry for the names.
==Tactile Power Mimicry?==
* Replication means to duplicate or to repeat. I don't see anything wrong with the name "ability replication". It's worked for two years now, and I don't see any reason to change it. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:14, 8 May 2010 (EDT)
Garthak said something very insightfull, tactile mimicry is a good description inso far as to what we have seen[[User:EmpathicMimic0|EmpathicMimic0]]
*That sounds like someone is mimicing the way another person touches...--[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 19:30, 5 February 2009 (EST)
** It is a simple description of what he has now, could call it Tactile Power Mimicry to prevent confusion[[User:Garthak|Garthak]] 10:09, 6 February 2009 (EST)
*** It's currently the best describing name for the ability, but agreed that we'd need the "power" in there too, so 'Tactile Power Mimicry'. [[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 23:29, 5 February 2009
**** I'm fine with "Peter's ability" for now...especially considering that [[User:Admin|Admin]] received [[#Still Empathic Mimicry?|confirmation that the writers don't have a specific name for his new ability yet]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:36, 5 February 2009 (EST)
***** Though I'm no fan of naming abilities by the possessors name, I agree with Ryangibsonstewart. I don't know if any of you guys noticed, but isn't his power similar to Rogue's of the X-Men. Except for that it doesn't harm the absorbee (I know it's not a word but give me a break) and that she can absorb more than one power at a time. [[User:Titan3510|Titan3510]] 20:47, 6 February 2009 (EST)
******There, name is changed...I think adding power was a little Ridiculous but you happen to be right. [[User:EmpathicMimic0|EmpathicMimic0]] 19:01, 8 February 2009
*** On second thought, Peter is a mimic either way, since we have 'Power absorption' which is also via touch, <i>(After we get some more info to what Peter can fully do, and if it fits)</i> I think this should just be called 'Power mimicry'. I don't think "Tactile" or "Touch" in the ability name is necessary. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 02:26, 9 February 2009 (EST)


== Copying Powers ==
==Not Empathic in [[Dual]] episode==
What does anyone think would happen if Peter copied his old power? Could he then use it to copy many powers?


Or if he copied Intuitive Aptitude and then stole powers from others?--[[User:Styx|Styx]] ([[User talk:Styx|talk]]) 19:02, 1 October 2010 (EDT)
*I just rewatched the final episode where Peter saved Nathan - and I just found out that he ran towards Nathan first before flying away, which only proves that he didn't mimic Nathan just be coming near him but by actually having physical contact with him. --{{User:NiveKJ13/sig1}} 16:00, 6 February 2009 (EST)
* If he copied his old power or Intuitive Aptitude, I think he'd probably use the new power copying technique more often than ability replication. However, they would probably pose a dilemma to him, since he had problems controlling aspects of both of them.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 00:58, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
*Yea, cause if he was to copy Intuitive Aptitude, he could then steal someones ability by removing the head etc. He could then permanently keep and power's he stole. AND could then lose Intuitive Aptitude to a different ability that he copies. If you can understand that ;)--[[User:Styx|Styx]] ([[User talk:Styx|talk]]) 05:30, 2 October 2010 (EDT)


== His Dreams ==
== Maybe Power Absorbtion after all? ==


If you look closely, the second dream is different than the first including the location. This is obviously influenced by Peter's warning to Emma that she finally listens to in Brave New World and the change in dream reflects the changes he caused in time with his warning.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 02:08, 12 November 2013 (EST)
Here is my theory:

I think that Peter has Power absorption, but doesn't want to take anyone's powers away. Therefore he only takes small amounts of their power and thus can only use them for a short period of time. Maybe when he learns to control his power, he can duplicate powers and he can be the all mighty Peter I like.

Feel free to comment..... [[User:SlayrNeo|SlayrNeo]] 12:04, 7 February 2009

* ...But then that's not really power absorbtion at all, is it? Your theory doesn't say anything about him permantly taking abilities from others. Regardless, not only have the writers stated it's a new ability, I doubt they would give any of their heroes the ability to just take away a villians ability. It would make things too easy.--[[User:BardinessBoy|BardinessBoy]] 12:16, 7 February 2009 (EST)
**It could still be, like when you go to school. You "absorb" the information in the books, but does it vanish in the books? [[User:SlayrNeo|SlayrNeo]] 00:10, 8 February 2009
*[[User:Admin|Admin]] said he received confirmation that it is a new ability. ([[#Still Empathic Mimicry?|see here]]). Nice, well thought out theory, though. {{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}}
* Have you checked out [[Theory:Ability replication]]? You might want add to that page. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 12:20, 7 February 2009 (EST)

== Just watched Dual ==

And in the scene where Peter injects himself with the formula, he then gets up and doesn't leap across the flames as previously thought. He flies directly into Nathan, then out of there. No leap! I know the writers have said that he now has a new ability but in my eyes this is a clear example of Empathic Mimicry. Either this is now a plot hole, or it is a snippit showing us that Peter still has his old ability. BTW I watched it in slow motion and normal speed and he clearly flies straight across the flames, no jump.--[[User:Steelymcbeam|Steelymcbeam]] 11:01, 8 February 2009 (EST)
:He didn't fly into Nathan... no, he just ran into him. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 11:20, 8 February 2009 (EST)
Watch it carefully, he clearly had left the ground before touching Nathan and then before touching the ground again flies out the window.--[[User:Steelymcbeam|Steelymcbeam]] 11:21, 8 February 2009 (EST)
::As I mentioned in Peter's talk page, it could have been a leap. Ando doesn't have flight, yet he jumped very high and very far at Arthur when Hiro was having his memory wiped clean. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 11:28, 8 February 2009 (EST)
:::I just watched it as well. Definitely a leap, though I see where you might get confused. He starts flying the MOMENT he touches Nathan. But he wasn't flying beforehand. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 11:29, 8 February 2009 (EST)
*It SURE IS GOOD that he knew he would mimic flight once he TOUCHED Nathan after having just received this new power! </sarcasm> --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 12:44, 8 February 2009 (EST)
Most likely instinct on this occasion.--[[User:Steelymcbeam|Steelymcbeam]] 12:47, 8 February 2009 (EST)
**I was thinking he thought that he had his original ability back. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 14:29, 8 February 2009 (EST)
***If he thought that then he could have tried to just mimic Flint and extinguish the flames altogether. -[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 01:38, 9 February 2009 (EST)
****I don't give Peter enough credit to believe he'd think that. And there has never been a conclusive example of pyrokinesis extinguishing fire, the Flint example has never been confirmed. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 10:12, 9 February 2009 (EST)
****Peter acts on instinct, not logic. But in this case, I think the first idea in anyone's mind would be to just fly the hell out of there. Extinguishing the flames makes things longer and more complicated. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 12:10, 9 February 2009 (EST)
****** I just watched Trust in Blood and Peter Confirms that he can only hold onto one ability at a time to Tracy. And is required to touch nathan again to be able to fly away from him. [[User:Connorbb|Connorbb]] </small> 20:10, 9 February 2009 (EST)
******* PS. I live in Canada and Trust in Blood aired at 7:00 --[[User:Connorbb|Connorbb]] 20:21, 9 February 2009 (EST)
He surely took Flints power so he wouldnt burn from the side effects of the fire, which is why he could get back up. Or else he would be quite burnt.--[[User:345tom|345tom]] 17:14, 11 February 2009 (EST)

== Sources and Speculation Page ==

The article has to be extremely abridged or fully removed. Only confirmed information should be given, interpretations and speculationshave to be posted in the fan theories article.

== What happens when he touches Sylar? ==
Would he have intuitive aptitude with all the perks? [[User:Bloodbath|Bloodbath]] 04:22, 10 February 2009 (EST)
* I was thinking of this on the way to college after this episode, I suspect he would take the original ability of whomever he touches, and will be able to permanently acquire any ability gained with that ability (provided he keeps the ability) so if he started to slice off Ando's brain using Intuitive Aptitude, he would gain Ando's power, but if he touched Mohinder, he would lose it. I don't know if powers transfer through corpses since he would have no telekinesis for brain removal. --[[User:Arkillion|Arkillion]] 10:28, 10 February 2009 (EST)
** Doesnt sylar have a version of empathic mimicry as well though? so would he not get that as well, which means he has his old ability back? which avoids the fact of only having one ability. --[[User:345tom|345tom]] 11:22, 10 February 2009 (EST)
*** If [[Peter]] wanted he could take hold of all the powers that [[Sylar]] posseses by only touching him, or if he found someone with his old power, than he could hold that power for as long as he wanted, indefentely. All he would need is to use [[Angela]]'s resourses to find whoever has the same power that he used to have.
****Sylar has his power, that was how he, originally, took elles power. This means that if peter touchs sylar he has his old power which means that his new power wouldnt count for anything.--[[User:345tom|345tom]] 17:14, 11 February 2009 (EST)
*****I wouldn't say Sylar has his power, he clearly had to put himself in the other person's situation, Peter would get the ability just by standing next to them. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 17:53, 11 February 2009 (EST)

== Ability Replication? ==

People have already set it up as replicating abilities so perhaprs the official name should be ability replication. [[User:Horrorman|Horrorman]] 9:10, 10 February 2009 (EST)
*Yeah I can live with that.--[[User:Steelymcbeam|Steelymcbeam]] 09:18, 10 February 2009 (EST)
**Me too. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 09:21, 10 February 2009 (EST)
***Should we go ahead and put the change or put it to a vote, hopefully we can avoid the Alejandro thing? [[User:Horrorman|Horrorman]] 9:44, 10 February 2009 (EST)
****I'm fine with it too, so yeah I say just go to a vote or just go ahead and change it. [[User:The Light6|The Light6]] 09:47, 10 February 2009 (EST)
*****Okay so I guess we will change it, one thing though, how do you do that? [[User:Horrorman|Horrorman]] 9:49, 10 February 2009 (EST)
****** I personally don't think "Ability Replication" is suitable, as far as we know it's still speculative. The name suggests he can replicate an ability, but infact he cannot REPLICATE the ability entirely .. meh cba to argue >_> --[[User:Arkillion|Arkillion]] 10:26, 10 February 2009 (EST)
** To Arkillion he does replicate the power mimicing it seems to closely related to Empathic mimicry and other sources suggest replication as well. [[User:Horrorman|Horrorman]] 13:20 10 February 2009(EST)
*I have to vote against this name, it does not imply the aspects of this ability that make it unique from Ability Theft, Power Absorption, Aura Absorption, or Empathic Mimicry. Notice how each of those names mentions the uniqueness of the ability. The name should mention the need for physical contact to absorb and/or that only one ability can be held.[[User:Jakk55|Jakk55]] 11:47, 10 February 2009 (EST)
**Not to be picky but to clarify, ability theft is not an ability but a method of gaining powers. [[User:Horrorman|Horrorman]] 13:17, 10 February 2009(EST)
***I wasn't sure whether I should put that in there but my point is that the name should be a description of ability not a vague name that could be used to describe a multitude of other previously shown(and probably future) abilities.[[User:Jakk55|Jakk55]] 14:16, 10 February 2009 (EST).
****Temporary Power Replication sounds more specific, or Temporary Power Mimicry--[[User:Fr0z3nB0nes|Fr0z3nB0nes]] 17:46, 10 February 2009 (EST)
*****I was thinking that too but we don't know if he slowly looses it over time or if he doesn't loose it until he touches another person. I would suggest Singular Mimicry, Single Mimicry, Sole Mimicry, Individual Mimicry, Solitary Mimicry, Discrete Mimicry.[[User:Jakk55|Jakk55]] 18:24, 10 February 2009
****** He stated he can only hold on to one ability at a time not that he could hold onto it temporarily. I don't see why you would consider a time limit. They wouldn't completely de-power him. Hasn't he been de-powered enough?--[[User:Connorbb|Connorbb]] <span style="color:red;">(CONNOR</span> [[User talk:Connorbb|ROCKS]]<span style="color:red;"> !!!!)</span> 18:46, 10 February 2009 (EST)
*******I sorta meant temporary as in he loses it after gaining another ability, but I suppose it only refers to time limits really. Singular Power Mimicry sounds good.--[[User:Fr0z3nB0nes|Fr0z3nB0nes]] 19:07, 10 February 2009 (EST)
********That's what I'm saying, I don't believe he looses the ability over time, therefore the replication would not be temporary, just replaceable. Temporary implies that he eventually looses it, but my guess is if he never touched another evolved human again he wouldn't loose his current ability, making it not-temporary.[[User:Jakk55|Jakk55]] 19:09, 10 February 2009 (EST)
*********I wouldn't add quantifiers, Peter's original power only worked within a short distance first, and getting many powers at once made him sick at the end of Homecoming, and we know how both the distance and multiple powers ended up. Putting singular of somelike like that narrows the effects too much. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 19:12, 10 February 2009 (EST)
**********I don't personally like the name Ability replication. It doesn't sound like a power, it's more like a description. The name is not canon, therefore This still should be "Peter's ability" until a consensus has been reached. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 22:30, 10 February 2009 (EST)
**********To Intuitive Empath: Peter has explicitly stated that he can only hold on to one power, this as well as being transferred through touch is what separates it from Emphatic Mimicry, so if you're saying that is too minor a difference to help name then it is too minor a difference to be a different ability. If we are going to say we can't name it because it may evolve into something else then we should switch it back to Peter's Ability rather than leave it with an ambiguous name.[[User:Jakk55|Jakk55]] 23:14, 10 February 2009 (EST)
***********I'm just trying to leave things in a way we won't need to move pages and change hundreds of links if his ability ever changes, ability replication as it is neither limits the scope of his ability nor broadens it, putting a quantifier limits it. I'm trying to make our jobs easier for the future, cause someday, Peter will surely be a powerhouse again, the writers like him too much to leave him like this. Ability replication isn't incorrect in either scenerio, adding the quantifier makes it incorrect in one scenario. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 09:34, 11 February 2009 (EST)
***********Then change it back to "Peter's ability", no quantifiers or limits in scope, and no vague description. Either it should be left at "Peter's Ability" until we get something more concrete from the show or the writers, or we should give it a real name not something totally non-descriptive.[[User:Jakk55|Jakk55]] 19:18, 11 February 2009 (EST)
************I still think 'Power mimicry' is the best name because it's not limiting if Peter later on can retain more than one ability and it matches 'Power absorption' more, which is also via touch, but steals. So we could have 'Power mimicry' which is similar, via touch, but copies instead of steals. The two are the perfect opposites. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 22:06, 11 February 2009 (EST)
* Personally, I have no problem with ability replication, but this should have never been changed, as there was clearly not a consensus to do so (2 of the 5 or 6 people discussing it objected). And the consensus check has 5 of 11 objecting to the name. Technically, this should be switched back to Peter's ability based on that. --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 21:24, 15 February 2009 (EST)
* Technically, peter always has access to two abilities at a time. His primary ability (the ability to duplicate a power by touch) and the ability he absorbs, I'm thinking correction. Because no matter what ability he absorbs, it will never overwrite his core ability of tactile power mimicry. - Fourletterfame

== De ol' consensus check ==

Let's start one of these! Sig and arguments if you got 'em below your choice. If you have a better idea, tack that in here with your arguments. --{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 02:01, 12 February 2009 (EST)

===Leave as "Ability replication"===
#----[[User:Steelymcbeam|Steelymcbeam]] 02:13, 12 February 2009 (EST) Leave as Ability replication, it's an actual name, can be changed later, describes quite accurately what he is doing, bar a word or two.
#----[[User:Horrorman|Horrorman]] 08:57, 12 February 2009 (EST) Being the guy who came up with it and liking the explanation, I have to be bias towards it. Plus replicate implies he can't generate it, like Peter who loses the old ability after he "replicates" a new one.
#--[[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 09:15, 12 February 2009 (EST) It's an accurate name, and short of the writers changing his ability again, it'll stay correct even if some efects change, such as retaining abilities or replicating more than one.
#--[[User:EValentino|EValentino]] 13:20, 12 February 2009 (EST)I think it's an accurate description.
#{{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 16:37, 12 February 2009 (EST)
#--<span style="font-size: 8pt; font-weight:bold;"> [[User:Futurepeter|Futurepeter]] ( [[User:Futurepeter|U]] - [[User_talk:Futurepeter|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Futurepeter|C]] ) 08:09, 13 February 2009 (EST)</span>
#--{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 20:24, 21 February 2009 (EST) The name works, it's simple and easy to understand what the ability does.
#--[[User:Cro Magnon|Cro Magnon]] 20:31, 21 February 2009 (EST)
#--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 21:58, 21 February 2009 (EST) It's the best we've got so far.
#--[[User:Meesa yoda|Meesa yoda]] 22:38, 22 February 2009 (EST)
#--[[User:Gabriel Bishop|Gabriel Bishop]]
#--[[User:Werdoop|Werdoop]] 12:04, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

===Change to "Temporary ability replication"===
#---- Because that is exactly what it is. The other name sounds more permanent. -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 03:15, 12 February 2009 (EST)

===Change to "Power mimicry"===
#--[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 02:10, 12 February 2009 (EST) Change it to a basic "Power Mimicry", which simply describe what he can do - it is like his old ability minus the "empathy" and fits in well with "Power absorption" and it's same way of touch absorption. Also because just because he is only mimicking one at a time doesn't mean his ability isn't 'Power mimicry', we have Knox's power which is powered by fear, yet it's still 'enhanced strength'. This is why we have the limits section. I don't see a reason to give him a completely different name.
#--[[User:Shadowulf1|Shadowulf]] Change to '''Power Mimicry'''; duh, he mimics powers, even though only one at a time.
#----[[User:Connorbb|Connorbb]] <span style="color:red;">(CONNOR</span> [[User talk:Connorbb|ROCKS]]<span style="color:red;"> !!!!)</span> 16:25, 12 February 2009 (EST) I like it because it is similiar to the name for Atrthur's ability which is ver simiiar to this
#--[[User:Chubbyboy|Chubbyboy]] 13:28, 28 March 2009 (EDT) Perhaps "Ability Mimicry" would be better? The wiki, and the show itself, seem to prefer the word "ability" to "power."

===Revert back to "Peter's ability"===

#--[[User:Jakk55|Jakk55]]Revert to Peter's ability for reason stated above.

===Based on current majority===
We should keep the name as is. [[User:Horrorman|Horrorman]] 22:08, 15 February 2009 (EST)
* Heroes Wiki doesn't work under majority rules. Heroes Wiki looks for consensus. We don't have consensus. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:19, 15 February 2009 (EST)
* So we don't have a consensus to change to any particular name, but we don't have a consensus for the name we're using. 45% want a different name. So shouldn't this be reverted back to "Peter's ability"? --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 19:28, 21 February 2009 (EST)
** That's the way I understand it. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:11, 21 February 2009 (EST)
*** So, anybody know how to change it back? lol [[User:Jakk55|Jakk55]] 16:50, 22 February 2009 (EST)
**** Well, others have voted for the current name. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 17:34, 22 February 2009 (EST)
***** Regardless, there has never been, and there still isn't, consensus on the name therefore it should be reverted back to "Peter's ability" as per [[Help:Naming_conventions#Ability_Names]], who would have guessed there are rules for this kind of thing all ready in place? [[User:Jakk55|Jakk55]] 19:37, 22 February 2009 (EST)
***** This should have never been changed in the first place, can someone change it back already? --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 20:39, 23 February 2009 (EST)

== Images ==

Shouldn't there be some example images under the [[Ability replication]] article? We have seen [[Peter]] getting abilities a couple of times. So if someone could get a picture of Peter grabbing [[Nathan]] in [[Dual]], grabbing him again in [[Trust and Blood]], and using the picture when he get [[freezing]] from [[Tracy]] like [[:Image:Powers peter abosrbs tracy's ability.jpg|the one here]]. All of these would pictures would go good for examples I think. --[[User:Catalyst|Catalyst]] 18:02 February 2009
* Totally agree. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:47, 14 February 2009 (EST)
** I have added a bunch of images using his new "ability", however due to the lack of photoshop I cannot scale them to the correct size of improve levels. Can someone do that? --[[User:Arkillion|Arkillion]] 21:11, 15 February 2009 (EST)

== More Than One At A Time ==

[[Peter]] could only hold an ability if the donor was near by, now he can only hold the most recent one. Similiar? Perhaps [[Peter]] needs to expand on his power, learning to recall multiple older, thought to be lost, powers and gain a lees dependent control of them. Over time he will be able to use one's such as [[Flight]], [[Freezing]] and others that he may find from others.
* i think peter just doesn't have the confidence to use his ability properly, just like hiro did. Now that peter is regaining his confidence, though, he's slowly starting to be able to use his ability like it was before. [[User:Peter]]
** Yeah, Peter just needs to explore stuff by himself. I'm sure his ability will progress and he will be able to use multiple abilities at one time.--[[User:Alen76|Alen76]] 11:26, 16 February 2009 (EST)
***Yeah, lets hope so, I loved the old Peter and [[Empathic mimicry|his ability]]. They were both my favourite character and ability. Now that that's changed I am really hoping he learns to recall abilities otherwise I'm gonna be quite disappointed.--[[User:Steelymcbeam|Steelymcbeam]] 22:49, 17 February 2009 (EST)
****That will be great, its like an ability upgrade ^^.--[[User:JLYK|JLYK]] 16:53, 21 February 2009
** Peter's new ability might increase, but I don't think he'll ever get back to the "recall any power he ever absorbed" level. Peter was just too damned powerful, which was why the writers gave him anmesia, and had him depowered by Arthur. I wouldn't mind if he could have a palette of two or three powers to choose from (from the last few people he touched). But Peter should still only be able to use one at a time.--[[User:Chubbyboy|Chubbyboy]] 13:44, 28 March 2009 (EDT)(EST)
***** The logic has never made sense to me, we have the all powerful Sylar who runs around with his super-telekinesis and doesn't get captured, can't be hurt, and now there isn't anyone who has the power to take him on. It makes little sense why they took away peter's powers only to leave sylar the super-villian that he is. --[[User:Fourletterfame|Fourletterfame]] 22:13, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

Agreed.

Not that Sylar shouldn't be the super-villain. That's how we like him, right?--[[User:ERROR|ERROR]] 22:33, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

== Woot! ==

It was stated in the latest BTE that if Peter reconnects with his empathy, then he will be able to hold multiple abilities. Now that's an improvement.--[[User:Steelymcbeam|Steelymcbeam]] 09:33, 18 February 2009 (EST)
* Does this mean he will be able to gain them without touching a sad person? And by that I mean his empathetic mimicry? Or is that unconfirmed? --[[User:Three|Three]] 16:44, 19 February 2009 (EST)
** It means he will be able to hold multiple abilities but he will still need to touch a person to gain an ability. It's better this way. Empathetic mimicry is too clumsy,lol.--<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;">[[User:Alen76|Alen]] ([[User:Alen76|talk]])</span> 15:50, 21 February 2009 (EST)
*** I'm not sure the latest [http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20086 BTE] says that he will be able to hold multiple abilities. I'm also not sure when they say that he needs to "reconnect with his empathy" that it means he will regain the ability of [[empathic mimicry]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:50, 21 February 2009 (EST)
They mention that he has been sorely lacking in empathy since Heroes has begun. His ability has changed but if he returns to his empathetic ways than he may well be able to retain several abilities, since his last ability could. And as Mohinder has stated, abilities are caused by a person's blood chemistry, Peter's blood chemistry hasn't changed(or changed very little, still unknown exactly what [[Power absorption]] does.) so he may still be able to retain aspects of his former ability.--[[User:Steelymcbeam|Steelymcbeam]] 22:11, 21 February 2009 (EST)
*Look at it this way, the core of [[Peter]]'s ability hasn't changed--he is still the same, giving him the capacity to take on the powers of other 'specials' to himself, making him imbune with the power that he absorbed/mimicked.
*Will Peter ever get his old power back? Isn't it possible that somebody asks one of the guys in the Interviews? :) If he wont get back his powers I would be very disappointed..

== Skin Contact ==

Could someone please give me the specific example of grabbing flight through Nathan's shirt? B/c in [[Trust and Blood]] I could've sworn Peter touched [[Nathan Petrelli|Nathan's]] skin at his neck when he absorbed it then. --[[User:Spellingbee|<span style="color:indigo">SpellingBee</span>]][[User talk:Spellingbee|<span style="color:blue"><sup>~Talk to me!~</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spellingbee|<span style="color:green"><sub>~Contribs~</sub></span>]] 23:56, 25 February 2009 (EST)
Upon looking at the page again, they changed around that scene a little. Kinda weird, actually. I dunno, but it's not terribly convincing to me...--[[User:Spellingbee|<span style="color:indigo">SpellingBee</span>]][[User talk:Spellingbee|<span style="color:blue"><sup>~Talk to me!~</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spellingbee|<span style="color:green"><sub>~Contribs~</sub></span>]] 00:01, 26 February 2009 (EST)

== SuperCharged? ==

I think when Ando super charges Peter, peter will be able to mimic more that one ablity, thus then mimicing supercharge, and he will be able to supercharge himself. This means that it will effectivly become E.M.

Who thinks this, (otherwise i think Ando and Daphne are gona keep going back-in-time to keep getting syringes of the formular, to get hiro his powers back and peter more powers.)
[[User:Fred1793|Fred1793]] 17:03, 2 March 2009 (EST)

== Main Image ==

[[:Image:Peter Flight.png|This]], perhaps? It's easy to see the replicating going on. My only concern is that maybe too much is going on in this image, like the laser beam on [[Peter]]'s forehead. I'm fine with the current one, but I believe that this better shows the power in action. {{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 19:11, 2 March 2009 (EST)

*When that rest of you watch ''Exposed'', you will know the image I am talking about, I think we should change it to either Peter absorbing Matt's power or him absorbing Nathan's power. Both examples are very visual and it is easy to see the "aura" flowing into peter's hand.--[[User:Connorbb|Connorbb]] <span style="color:red;">(Connor</span> [[User talk:Connorbb|ROCKS]]<span style="color:red;"> !!!!)</span> 20:22, 2 March 2009 (EST)
**[[:Image:Powers peter replicate matt.JPG|This]], then? {{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 15:51, 3 March 2009 (EST)
*** I think that ones better. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 07:16, 4 March 2009 (EST)

== Special Effect ==
I'm not a 100% sure, but I kinda got the impression that Matt could see the light from when Peter soaked up his power - didn't he comment like "what's that" when Peter replicated his ability? --[[User:Spellingbee|<span style="color:indigo">SpellingBee</span>]][[User talk:Spellingbee|<span style="color:blue"><sup>~Talk to me!~</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spellingbee|<span style="color:green"><sub>~Contribs~</sub></span>]] 18:07, 4 March 2009 (EST)
*I thought he was just finding it weird that Peter suddenly grabbed his arm, just that. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 18:12, 4 March 2009 (EST)
**He said "what are you doing?", then "what is that?", so yeah I guess he could see the glow. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 21:24, 4 March 2009 (EST)
***If that was it, Danko would know Nathan's an evolved human, he was there when Peter replicated Nathan's ability after he and Tracy tried to set him up after Flight 195 crashed. And it was dark, the glow would appear more, if it was visible, Danko would've seen it. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 08:53, 5 March 2009 (EST)
****Just because peter glowed in the dark doesn't mean danko would start accusing nathan of being a hero. Danko has no idea how peters power works so he wouldn't know it's for use on people with powers.

Exactly, Mr. Anonymous. I think he saw the glow.--[[User:ERROR|ERROR]] 21:50, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

== Multiple Powers at Once ==
What do you think about Peter touching two evolved humans simultaneously? Would he replicate two abilities at once?--[[User:Altes|Altes]] 12:31, 5 March 2009 (EST)
* No idea. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 18:20, 5 March 2009 (EST)
I think so. But I think he'd lose both once he replicates another ability (Or another pair of abilities.).--[[User:ERROR|ERROR]] 08:57, 1 June 2009 (EDT)

== Rename to "Power borrowing" ==

With Peter telling Matt that he "Borrowed [his] power" in {{ep|318}}, we now have a cannon name/canon descriptive name for the ability, and thus the ability should be now be named '''power borrowing'''. Agree/disagree? --{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 01:26, 8 March 2009 (EST)
* I don't mind either way. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 03:30, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
* IMHO borrowing means taking something from somebody, so this somebody doesn't have it until you give it back. --[[User:Altes|Altes]] 07:07, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
* Well I like Power Borrowing more than Ability Replication, 'Borrowing' usually means "to take", but it can also mean "to use" from another source, so I'm fine with that. And it was said in the show - so is a canon description name, like we have 'Ability Supercharging' because of Matt and Hiro, but it should clearly be called 'Ability Augmentation'. Power borrowing is accurate, Peter "takes" from the source, even though they don't loose their ability. Which is something that Ability Replication doesn't fill, it just sounds like his a mimic. The way he can only hold one ability at a time fits with the "borrowing". So I like Power Borrowing. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 07:28, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
* I personally don't like it but even so, it's just a descriptive name isn't it? So doesn't it rank the same on the canon scale? IMO it doesn't sound official, you can't really make a name from this.--{{User:Steelymcbeam/sig}} 07:41, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
** Yes it's a descriptive name but a canon one, "ability replication" isn't. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 07:50, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
** Well considering that, there's no argument that can be made. Let's make the change.--{{User:Steelymcbeam/sig}} 07:57, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
* There were many abilities which were never named in the show, yet you gave them the names. For example, poison emission, intuitive aptitude, underwater breathing, empathic mimicry...--[[User:Altes|Altes]] 11:41, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
**Just a point of information - Poison Emission was named in the show - Maya specifically said "I emit poison" [[User:Random guy|Random guy]] 01:06, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
** I agree with the argument that borrowing means you take something so the person does not have it anymore then you give it back, if you replicate something you copy it and the person still keeps what ever is replicated.--{{User:Laughingdevilboy/signature}} 11:44, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
* Besides replicating means that you take something and copy it, but mimicry means you just do something that you witness. I.e. mimicry doesn't mean you have to take something, but replication does. So I don't think renaming this ability into borrowing is necessary.--[[User:Altes|Altes]] 12:07, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
* All of that may be true, except for the fact that what Peter said is sadly higher on the canonicity scale and chances are will be changed. Even if the previous name described it near perfectly.--{{User:Steelymcbeam/sig}} 12:13, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
** I cant argue with that, but I do prose a compromise, why don't we wait until the next episode has been shown, it may give us more information if not I will be happy to agree to the move. It just seems that this has no had a lot of time to be discussed. --{{User:Laughingdevilboy/signature}} 12:16, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
* Didn't Peter say to Ando in Volume One that he kinda absorbs abilities of others when near them? But Peter's ability was named 'mimicry'. And Arthur - he steals abilities, but his power is called 'absorption'.--[[User:Altes|Altes]] 12:48, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
I don't like the borrowing part of the name because of what it was said already, it implies that while the ability is borrowed, its original user can't access it. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 12:54, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
* Well I can't argue with the "borrowed" part, because it would make it imply that the source has lost it. I'd probably call this 'Power absorption', it clear that Peter absorbs when he touches someone, but he doesn't remove the ability. At the moment he is just limited. We don't know how Peter's ability will evolve. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 03:00, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
** There's already power absorption, held by Arthur. Borrowing... You know, Peter could have meant by that he would eventually lose Matt's ability, i.e. he took it for a time - borrowed.--[[User:Altes|Altes]] 12:03, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
*** If it's not explicitly said, we can't use it as an argument. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 14:28, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
* Wouldn't be my first choice but it is certainly better than what we have now, plus it was sorta mentioned on the show. The name has my vote. <span style="color:Teal; font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"> ( [[User talk:Jakk55|Talk ]] To [[User:Jakk55|Jakk55 ]])</span> 17:57, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
**I don't see anything wrong with '''Ability replication''' as a name for this power. '''Power borrowing''', to me, is more ambiguous and misleading than ability replication. '''Ability replication''' is an exact description of what he does, he replicates abilities. If there wasn't a naming convention, I'd say to leave it as is. But, unfortunately, power borrowing has a root in canon. Meh, go for it. (If we do a consensus check, however, I'm voting to keep it as is) {{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 18:17, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
*I agree with you [[User:Psilaq Remake|Psilaq Remake]] I do believe it is too ambiguous and borrowing implies that the user of the original ability does not have his power while Peter has it. Matt was clearly able to still use telepathy at the time when Peter replicated the ability. [[User:Horrorman|Horrorman]] 8:48, 10 March 2009 (EST)
**I fail to understand how "Ability Replication" is any less ambiguous than "Power Borrowing". <span style="color:Teal; font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"> ( [[User talk:Jakk55|Talk ]] To [[User:Jakk55|Jakk55 ]])</span> 22:55, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
***To replicate means to copy. To borrow may lead to think that you actually 'take' it from the person, not just copy, even for limited amount of time. [[User:Mateussf|Mateussf]] 19:23, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
**** I like borrowing, as always, canon is canon --[[User:Fourletterfame|Fourletterfame]] 22:16, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

== New Consensus Check ==

Let's start a Consensus Check. Add your vote, and signature, and preferably a reason why.<span style="color:Teal; font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"> ( [[User talk:Jakk55|Talk ]] To [[User:Jakk55|Jakk55 ]])</span> 22:55, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

===Leave as "Ability replication"===
#--The reasons I stated above, and also it's quite possible Peter's ability will evolve. Then 'borrowing' will not be the proper term.--[[User:Altes|Altes]] 04:03, 11 March 2009 (EDT)
#--Based upon what Peter says in the episode i don't think it can be stated as the proper name for this abilty. Leave it as it is. --<span style="font-size: 8pt; font-weight:bold;"> [[User:Futurepeter|Futurepeter]] ( [[User:Futurepeter|U]] - [[User_talk:Futurepeter|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Futurepeter|C]]) 07:37, 11 March 2009 (EDT)</span>
#--{{User:Steelymcbeam/sig}} 11:12, 11 March 2009 (EDT) It's a better description, fully describes everything that the ability does and isn't left as far open to interpretation as "Power Borrowing".
#--[[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 12:37, 11 March 2009 (EDT) For reasons already stated above.
#--{{User:Laughingdevilboy/signature}} 12:39, 11 March 2009 (EDT)
#-- [[User:Gabriel Bishop|Gabriel Bishop]] 16:26, 11 March 2009 (EDT) Gabriel Bishop
#-- --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 16:30, 11 March 2009 (EDT), it think it is sort of like the ability supercharging incident, it is who says more explicitly.
#--{{User:Psilaq Remake/sig}} 17:00, 11 March 2009 (EDT), For reasons I stated above. Naming conventions won't stand for this, but I want my voice heard.
#--- [[user:Meteoritu|Meteoritu]] 9:27, 12 March 2009 (EDT), Because besides "Power Borrowing" not being the safest name (since a person can borrow various items at a time), "Ability replication" seems to be the closest term in explaining Peter's power.
#--- [[User:Horrorman|Horrorman]] 13:13, 13 March 2009 (EST), Power Borrowing can imply that the person who originally had the power would not have it. Replication means that the person who orginially had it still has it.
#--- [[User:JLYK|JLYK]] 17:25, 14 March 2009 (EST), I feel that Ability Replication sounds more professional. For example, Matt's ability isn't listed as mind reading, but telepathy. Angela's ability is Precognitve Dreaming, not dream of the future. Claire's ability is Cellular Regeneration, not healing. Hiro's old ability is space/time continum and not teleport/time manipulation. Sylar's main ability is Intuitive Aptitude, not "understanding how things work". Power borrowing sounds like a typical phrase you will use in a conversation, but I feel listing this ability as power borrowing just doesn't sound right.
#--[[User:Dylankidwell|The Empath]] 11:43, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
#--Leave it as is. Just because someone described it as borrowing a power, doesn't mean that's the name.
#--Power borrowing is just pure fail --[[User:Lolwut|Lolwut]] 15:01, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
#--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 16:46, 1 April 2009 (EDT) I feel we should stick with replication. Borrowing means to take something which leads to the other person doesn't have it anymore. Borrowing also implies it will eventually go away, which it won't if he doesn't replicate another power. And don't anybody tell me, "But that's what Peter said it was." I don't care. Micah never refers to his ability as technopathy, or Echo calling it Sound manipulation. it's not like when they get an ability, they automatically know what the ability is called. like Hiro when he called Ando a supercharger. Does he know what his ability is called? no, so don't go by what each character says. I'll be fine if they get the name from the writers, or the assignment trackers.
#--Regardless of what "canon" says, it's more confusing to call it "borrowing" than "Ability Replication". Although I'm personally more for "tacitile ability mimicry" or some such.--[[User:Uncanny474|Uncanny474]] 11:53, 3 April 2009 (EDT)
#[[User:IceGhost78|IceGhost78]]
# [[User:ERROR|ERROR]] All of the reasons above.

===Change to "Power Borrowing"===
#--Semi-Canon much better descriptor and less ambiguous and "Ability Replication"<span style="color:Teal; font-size: 10pt; font-weight:bold;"> ( [[User talk:Jakk55|Talk ]] To [[User:Jakk55|Jakk55 ]])</span> 22:55, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
#--It was described as this on the show and isn't made up by us. Another meaning of "borrow" is <i>"copy or imitate; to borrow the style, manner, or opinions of another."</i> So it can be correct, but some may think that the one will lose their ability while it's "borrowed"... --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 23:09, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
# Change for reasons I stated above --{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 01:19, 11 March 2009 (EDT)
# Liked ability replication better but for the sake of being canon, this one fits better. Darn technicalities. [[User:Dracomaster4|Dracomaster4]] 01:27, 11 March 2009 (EDT)
# Although borrowing sounds like the original person loses his/her power, Peter described his ability as "borrowing". [[Perrin Crocker]]'s ability is called [[Bone spike protrusion]] because it was described as "bone spikes". Although I think people new to Heroeswiki will have a problem with this name, it's the proper name so we need to use it. --[[User:Peter|Peter]] 19:07, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

== Future Peter with this Ability...? More than one ability at a time...? ==

The Exposed future Peter might have had this ability, now that I look through the old episodes.

Future Peter would've absorbed healing from Claire if he still had E.M. Claire didn't shoot him in the head, it was two bullets in the chest. Even if the Haitian was there, he'd have to STAY there to keep Peter from regenerating. When Peter could teleport and use TK on Nathan in the hospital, Future Peter would've regenerated. Claire regenerated after a number of hours after being dead in the first season, so why didn't Peter?

Because Future Peter had this ability. Which means that he'll eventually gain more than one ability. Future Peter had body insertion and time travel, at least.

It's gonna be like Peter's training with Claude. Right now he HAS super strength, flight, freezing, and telepathy, he just doesn't know how to work it out yet.

Happy times.

[[User:LimaBean|LimaBean]] 16:49, 12 March 2009 (PDT)

Okay mate, two things to say.
1. I pray to every deity that exists that he develops multiple abilities and your theory as to how he does so and if he did so is the best I've heard yet.

2. Sadly Future Peter had no idea that his father was alive and that he was the person who gave everyone the formula. Peter would never have worked this out, had he not mimicked IA, gone on a power-bender, and taken off to destroy Pinehearst and finding his father in the process. Besides the writers have stated that Peter couldn't absorb anything from Future Peter because all he could absorb was EM.--{{User:Steelymcbeam/sig}} 19:56, 12 March 2009 (EDT)


Well, I've been shot down there. >.>

Still doesn't explain how future Peter died, though. He should've woken up right when the Haitian left. ;~;

[[User:LimaBean|LimaBean]] 17:04, 12 March 2009 (PDT)
He should have, but there's the show for you. It's no fun if Future Peter just wakes back up and then (A) gets killed by Present Peter because of his new found talent, or (B) goes back with him and solves the problem perfectly therefore ending the show. Believe me it worked out a lot better this way. Besides, no one likes scarface. --{{User:Steelymcbeam/sig}} 20:06, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

I have a plausible theory on why Peter can die having absorbed RCR. Unlike Claire, it's not his original ability, he needs to access his own ability to use hers, so I think that after being dead for a while, if only because the Haitian is blocking him, after a while the natural processes that happen once you die make it impossible for him to use this ability, Mohinder said he changes his DNA to use an ability, thing is, is the change permanent or does it happen every time he uses an ability? I think it happens every time. All it takes is for him not to access his ability, not change his DNA. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:16, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

So he has to remember Claire every time he gets hurt to heal? And his DNA rapid-switches when he flips through TK to STM to invisibility? And how could he use to abilities at the same time? Not trying to be rude, but it just doesn't seem too plausible.
[[User:LimaBean|LimaBean]] 17:04, 12 March 2009 (PDT)

Not remember, when he lost his memory he could still use abilities, more like a reflex, things in the human body happen pretty fast you know? Nerve impulses, for example, run around 120 meters per second, enzymes in your body are able to make reactions happen up to a thousand times faster, who's to say his ability doesn't involved a DNA changing enzyme? Also, DNA is translated into proteins all the time, so it's not that impossible. It's part of his ability. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath
Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:25, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

Empath, you're awesome :D [[User:Dracomaster4|Dracomaster4]] 03:41, 13 March 2009 (EDT)

I'm just very good at biology. And I'm kind of a nerd when it comes to the actual functioning of abilities, so it comes easy. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 19:48, 13 March 2009 (EDT)

Also, Peter came back to life when Claire removed the shard of glass from his head. With brain [[brain penetration|penetrated]], he wasn't able to think about Claire in order to access her ability, but he did return from the dead. Still, it doesn't explain Future Peter's death. --[[User:Altes|Altes]] 10:30, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

But he only needs to think of someone when he wants to access the ability, Claire was right there, when she removed the glass, his ability could work again, so it's like he mimicked her power again. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 11:56, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

== Funny Observation ==

Pete must really love replicating flight. Before it was TK, now it's the power of taking into the air and flying. Still it's cool that he has that power currently. Or else his mother would have been in trouble. --[[User:TrueBlueBrooklynite|TrueBlueBrooklynite]] 03:15, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
*Flight is a very useful power. I can certainly understand why Peter would try to stick with it.--[[User:Cro Magnon|Cro Magnon]] 07:14, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
**Quite true, but like he could recall those replicated abilities, he won't be able to fly without the help of Nathan. It has it's perks like not flying by plane, taking a train, or any other modes of transportation. :D --[[User:TrueBlueBrooklynite|TrueBlueBrooklynite]] 19:43, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
*As a fugitive, Peter needs to escape quickly and travel around as fast as he can. So <i>Flight</i> is an important power for Peter at the moment. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 21:18, 28 March 2009 (EDT)
*I'd take Time-Stopping over flight, though. If Peter ever comes in contact with Hiro, I say he gets that. [[User:LimaBean|LimaBean]] 21:13, 7 April 2009 [PDT]
** Pete along with Sylar would seem to have fine control over their abilities, I think Peter handling the solo aspect of just time manipulation would be interesting. --[[User:TrueBlueBrooklynite|TrueBlueBrooklynite]] 14:15, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

==Totally Unnecessary==
Im sorry but this has been bugging me since the season started. I don't wanna be that guy but I have gotta say something. Despite the story telling just being off this season, my biggest problem is this ability. First they go through all the trouble of researching the Empathic Mimicry ability and giving it to peter and having him go through a whole character development just to understand it and how it works and who he is during season 1. Then they just take it away because they decided to depower him. So its like why give him the power at all if you knew how powerful he would be eventually. I think it says alot about the writers where they can't find something for him to do in the storyline when there are thousands of comics based on superman, the xmen and others who are very powerful and they have been going strong for years. Its a total cop out cause they lack creativity, i mean he went from the most powerful on the show to the least powerful person. Yet Sylar the serial killer is given more abilities he shouldn't have (not to mention he's still living) and the one person who can stand against him is practically powerless. This ability is sad at best he can only get a power by touching the person ok, but on top of that he can only have one at a time and when he does he loses the power he previously had. And the only response the producers give is he still learning how to use the power like in the first season. What for he can't do anything, i mean i just stated what he can do, other that there is nothing to work out. Why give him a power after it was taken if this was what you do its like totally unnecessary. Now he is flight which only good for travel but is useless to fight against armed soldiers. On a side note Escaping is really brave, especially considering if he still had his abilities this storyline wouldn't be happening. It seems like the show is on its way out anyhow, i mean you really cant go much of anywhere story-wise when the government knows and their solution is to put you down like a dog. The creators say they're trying to get back to the roots of the first season, but if that means having everyday people with abilities look over their shoulder for someone bagging and tagging them without due process, looks like they dropped the ball again. Ok im sorry for the rant i was holding that in for a bit.[[User:Salubri|Salubri]] 10:36, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

*I agree. Peter's old power represented his personality, his desire to save the world and become a better person. He was the guy who wanted to relate to everyone. Everyone's power is somehow linked to their personality. Matt wanted to know what the "bad guys were thinking". Hiro wanted to "teleport" out of his boring life. Daphne wanted to run. Peter wanted to empathize with everyone. And they just took it away because he was too powerful. They should've just weakened his ability, not take it away entirely. [[User:LimaBean|LimaBean]] 15:33, 16 April 2009 (EDT)


==My Speculation==

When Peter first had E.M., he trained with Claude. Claude said, and I quote, "Your body remembers how to use all those powers, it's you who doesn't know how to reach them." Peter used Telepathy. Peter flew. Peter froze the plane. I believe there's no logical way to stop Peter from having more than one ability at a time eventually. [[User:LimaBean|LimaBean]] 15:36, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
* Personally I think Peter's lack of self-confidence is just getting in the way of him using his old ability (i.e. using other abilities) Hopefully sometime soon he'll meet Sylar and grow a pair. --[[User:Peter|Peter]] 15:40, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
I think he has his original ability, but he can't use it properly because he lost his empathy. He doesn't connect with people, so he can only have one ability at a time, and he has to touch people in order to get their abilities--[[User:ERROR|ERROR]] 09:01, 1 June 2009 (EDT).
**Peter could use abilities he didn't know he had back then, no way you can empathize with someone you don't even knox exists. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 17:21, 1 June 2009 (EDT)

**He doesn't need to think about people to use his aquired powers, we saw this when he lost his mind, he can access them beter when knowing, but no nessecary need to think about them [[User:WaterRatj|WaterRatj]] 19:59, 7 October 2009 (EDT)


Your point being? Also, never mind about the empathy bit. He does seem to be connecting to people (Though I do have problems with understanding what people are saying, and I watched "Orientation/Jump, Push, Fall" late at night, so I may have missed something.).--[[User:ERROR|ERROR]] 19:53, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

== NAME ==

Is the name being changed or not? It's been nominated for a while and nobody has talked about it. --[[User:BoomerDay|BoomerDay]] 15:59, 19 April 2009 (EDT)
* No, it has been going on too long and since no new information has arisen and no consensus has been met I believe that means no renaming. I will take down the rename tag. --{{User:Laughingdevilboy/signature}} 16:11, 19 April 2009 (EDT)

== Possible rewording of definition ==

* Isn't it speculative to say "he is only able to have one ability at a time?" While it is true that he loses his previous ability when gaining new ones, that is slightly different than only being able to have a single ability at once. For instance, what if he touches Sylar? I don't think we have enough evidence (from the show, anyway...I'm not caught up on GNs and interviews) to say that he wouldn't gain all of Sylar's abilities. I think it should be changed to say:

"However, he loses his previous ability(ies) after replicating another one."

--[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 18:37, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
* No, I think it would be better to say that he can have ability(ies) only from one source at a time. If Peter did take all of Sylar's powers, it would be true. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 02:48, 28 April 2009 (EDT)


==Peter took all of Sylar's Abilities==

If you look at Peter after the fight, he's bleeding from cuts that don't exist. He's already healing. Therefore, he took ALL of Sylar's powers.

I think Peter'll become the 'new' Sylar, with Intuitive Aptitude and all. o.o [[User:LimaBean|LimaBean]] 19:09, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

*Nope, he only mimicked shapeshifting. --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 22:03, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
**That's debatable.
***No, it's not. Peter said, after shapeshifting, "I bet you didn't think I'd take that one" to Sylar, indicating Sylar would believe Peter (in a an attempt to regain his power to have multiple powers) to take intuitive aptitude instead. Peter took shapeshifting only. --[[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] ([[User talk:Ricard Desi|t]],[[Special:Contributions/Ricard Desi|c]]) 11:09, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
**** I heard, "betcha didn't think I took that one from you." This, though, could be interpreted either way. --[[User:Spellingbee|<span style="color:indigo">SpellingBee</span>]][[User talk:Spellingbee|<span style="color:blue"><sup>~Talk to me!~</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spellingbee|<span style="color:green"><sub>~Contribs~</sub></span>]] 21:24, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
*****"I bet you didn't think I'd take that one from you" could mean that Sylar thought Peter can replicate only one ability, but Pete managed to take them all. --[[User:JLYK|JLYK]] 13:35, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
******I don't know if I missed anything but did Sylar know that Peter had a power again since the last time they were together was when they killed Arthur and Peter hadn't taken the formula then. Is it just assumed that Sylar knew about it from his interactions with other characters and their memories? --[[Colin]]--
*******That Peter had ''an'' ability I'm sure he knew, since he saw Peter flying when he and Nathan fought him, now if he knew it was touch based instead of the original "stand next to you and copy", I don't think he did, but he could suspect since Peter probably tried to get a good grip on him, otherwise he'd think Peter would just mimic electric manipulation or telekinesis to attack him and wouldn't mind being hit because of rapid cell regeneration. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 15:53, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
*well future sylar figured out what knox's ability was after seeing it for a few seconds. Then when sylar was fighting peter, peter would have grabbed sylar and made a noticeable glow as he took his ability. Sylar would have seen this and understood what peter did.

=== Arguments for ===
#Excess blood left out of wounds in people with rapid cellular regeneration when they heal needs to be washed off.
#* Not always... I recall sometimes no blood remained on Claire's wounds when they healed. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 09:43, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#** That only happened rarely, and when the blood spread was super small. In fact, the only occasion I can remember for that was the staple from Season 1... --[[User:Spellingbee|<span style="color:indigo">SpellingBee</span>]][[User talk:Spellingbee|<span style="color:blue"><sup>~Talk to me!~</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spellingbee|<span style="color:green"><sub>~Contribs~</sub></span>]] 21:24, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#Intuitive aptitude's effects include modifying the DNA of the user. There is no evidence to suggest that abilities are somehow 'segmented' or separate, or one continuous string of information in the section of genetic material in which abilities inhabit.
#* The second statement contradicts the first one. Modification of DNA suggests that new segments are inserted into it. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 09:43, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#**What I meant was, there is no proof that acquired abilities are separate from the original one, in Sylar's case intuitive aptitude. It could be one huge string of ability DNA, thus being read as one ability by Peter.
#***But we know it isnt because Sylar lost all of his IA gained abilities after the Shanti Virus. If they were all connected, he would have lost IA, too. --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 13:43, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#****So? Sylar did lose IA, AND telekenisis from the Shanti virus. Several other people did as well, including Molly Walker and The Haitian, both of whom regained their power. -{{user:barbedknives/sig}}14:18, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#*****IA and TK were the only abilities Sylar did NOT lose to the Shanti virus, while he was infected, they were merely supressed. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:54, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#It is not known how Peter's power interprets abilities, if/how he selects any in the target, and what happens when replicating a multi-powered user. Before Sylar, each evolved human he replicated only had on ability.
#* This is not an argument for. It is simply a gray area. --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 13:44, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#Nathan told the security agent that if they could get Peter to Sylar, he could 'do what Sylar can do.'
#* Perhaps he meant only shape shifting... Anyway, Nathan couldn't know what would happen. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 09:43, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#Why didn't Sylar just kill Peter during the fight when he just had flight and was vulnerable, like he did Nathan? Sylar wasn't aware that Peter could only use one ability, so he would have still been seen as a huge threat.
#* Or maybe he was aware. He understands how things work, including abilities. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 09:43, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#I agree that Peter did in fact replicate all of Sylars abilties. Because his DNA would of replicated Sylars DNA. And in season 1, when Sylar was locked up Noah said that Sylar had used his Inutive Aptitude to manipulate his DNA into using that persons power. Now since Peter's power replicates the DNA with his power then he would of been able to replicate Sylars DNA and since Sylars DNA involves several powers then most likely Peter can "do what sylar does."
#Now you can say he didnt replicate Matt's precognition, but then again the precog ability was not on Matt's DNA, and if it even was, then maybe Peter just didn't tap into it because the entire time he was running away and using telepathy and wasn't relaxed like people who use precog powers.
#* Agreed, Peter had no time to try and paint the future. But precognition may be an extension of Matt's telepathy - so, it may be one ability. Had Peter a chance to paint a picture, it could have foretold the future. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 09:43, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#Now like the guy who disagreed said, Peter was shown only using one power of Sylar's... so, maybe he wanted to use the easiest way of capturing Sylar, other than risk fighting and getting killed maybe he just said "No... Im gonna do something smart.. for once."
#*The easiest way was to quickly find the President, acquire his morph, hide him somewhere, and get into a car with Sylar? Peter could have taken his disintegration ability and ended it all in a snap. He could have used sound manipulation, and blown Sylar's skin off, exposing his brain long enough to destroy completely. He could have telekinetically decapitated Sylar. --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 13:49, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#**Interesting to note here: if Peter did take Intuitive Aptitude, he would be able to see all the variables to make this situation work. The plan did seem a little far fetched for Peter working mostly alone.--[[User:NovaX81|NovaX81]] 19:57, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#***It was implied that Noah may have helped with this plan. --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 05:16, 30 April 2009 (EDT)
# If Sylar actually secretly developed empathic mimicry during his time with Elle, and used it on James Martin, AND Peter took that ''one'' ability, he would then have access to ALL of Sylar's abilities, ONCE AND FOR ALL! Mua ha ha I win n00bs GG. -{{user:barbedknives/sig}}23:32, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#**** My question is: Why did Sylar lose control of his shapeshifting BEFORE he got injected with the sedative. It almost gave off the impression that his power was being drained out of him, even though we know that's impossible. The other possible reason is he was trying to access the presidents DNA sample, and ended up cycling through his stockpile to no avail. Thoughts?--[[User:Fourletterfame|Fourletterfame]] 15:13, 19 July 2009 (EDT)
***** It happened because at the moment Peter was a shapeshifter too, and he was shapeshifted as well. So it's kinda when Sylar tried to take a sample of his shapeshifted DNA, that stuff happened. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 15:26, 19 July 2009 (EDT)
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I guess your right we shouldnt jump the gun just yet. But I am a huge Peter fan and I thnk his character has lost several great qualities and its one of the reasons why the show lost alot of viewers IMO. But I have to say to the person who said Peter would los IA after abosorbing another ability. I dont agree, because Inutive Aptitude gives the puse pure mastery of the other powers. So Peter would fully master Ability Replication and leanr how to hold on to more than one ability now which I dont doubt because in my opinion Future Peter had Ability Replication because he only showed 5 powers. [ADAMJONES]

=== Arguments against ===
#Peter has only been shown to use one ability at a time since getting his new ability, and after the confrontation with Sylar.
#Peter has stated that he can only 'hold onto one at a time.'
#* That was so long ago. Even Peter doesn't know the full extent of his ability. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 09:36, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#**You assume. --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 13:50, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#Claire asked Peter if he could fly, and he said no. (Note:It is being debated whether Sylar was using regular flight or telekenisis to land back into the building's window, and whether he even has flight at all.)
#* Peter couldn't fly, because he lost Nathan's ability in order to take Sylar's. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 09:36, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#**Sylar flew. Peter saw it. No matter how he did it, Peter knew Sylar COULD. --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 13:50, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#**Peter was still in the room, so most likely Peter took all of Sylar's abilities BEFORE Sylar took Nathan's flight.[[User:Dracomaster4|Dracomaster4]] 10:12, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#*** I agree. Peter'd already left the room right when Sylar throws Nathan in the window, then flies in and kills Nathan. No way Pete saw it. --[[User:Spellingbee|<span style="color:indigo">SpellingBee</span>]][[User talk:Spellingbee|<span style="color:blue"><sup>~Talk to me!~</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spellingbee|<span style="color:green"><sub>~Contribs~</sub></span>]] 21:24, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#****It was never confirmed Sylar took Nathan's ability, and most likely, he didn't. --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 05:21, 30 April 2009 (EDT)
#** They refer during the whole episode to "his power" "that one", so obviously he took one power. Peter was limping, bloody, even at the end he still was hurt. Moreover, Nathan flew Sylar out because he saw Peter couldn't do anything and was about to get killed.
#*** Someone uploaded images that show the cuts on Peter's face while the burn James Martin as Sylar. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:54, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
#**** His limp was definitely better when he was going down the staircase shortly thereafter. --[[User:Spellingbee|<span style="color:indigo">SpellingBee</span>]][[User talk:Spellingbee|<span style="color:blue"><sup>~Talk to me!~</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spellingbee|<span style="color:green"><sub>~Contribs~</sub></span>]] 21:24, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
# Peter did not have "the Hunger".

*Just note that this isn't a consensus check or anything, just here for academic reasons. I personally believe that he only has shape shifting, but we shouldn't assert that he only has it for fact. The articles mentioning it should say something along the lines of "Peter has only demonstrated shape-shifting after his battle with Sylar" so as to be accurate but not rule out other options.

:We're going to have to wait till next season guys, it's inconclusive but practical for now to say he's a shape shifter.

:(On a side note, if he is holding onto IA with his replication, he's going to have to use it to gain more powers, since replicating any other ability will remove IA and any of Sylar's old abilities. Also, he would most likely have to battle the hunger if he chose to keep it. Could be interesting. ) -{{user:barbedknives/sig}}22:40, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
** I agree that we should leave it open ended, qualifying what we include with, for instance, "has only demonstrated" as suggested. Other opinions? --[[User:Spellingbee|<span style="color:indigo">SpellingBee</span>]][[User talk:Spellingbee|<span style="color:blue"><sup>~Talk to me!~</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spellingbee|<span style="color:green"><sub>~Contribs~</sub></span>]] 23:14, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
***I disagree. It was painted out for us very clearly that he only took one ability.
****I definitely thought I saw more than one: he was limping but quickly straightened up, an indicator of regeneration, in addition to the shape-shifting we know was absorbed. As such, I think an open-ended statement is best. Thoughts? --[[User:Spellingbee|<span style="color:indigo">SpellingBee</span>]][[User talk:Spellingbee|<span style="color:blue"><sup>~Talk to me!~</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spellingbee|<span style="color:green"><sub>~Contribs~</sub></span>]] 18:37, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
*he had noticeable cuts near the end at the bonfire though.

==Selection or Request?==
OK, so we know Peter can replicate a specific ability. The question is, does he:
:A. Touch an evolved human, identify their ability(s), and select which one he will :replicate, or if he replicates it; or
:B. Have an ability in mind that he knows the target has, and forcibly replicate it?
*If A, then whenever Peter touches Sylar/Nathan, he will see that he has multiple abilities that Nathan did not posses, and most notable that Sylar had all of those abilities.

What do you all think? -{{user:barbedknives/sig}}03:37, 30 April 2009 (EDT)

*I think it was B. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 05:28, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

* Then how did he replicate Tracy's ability he didn't even do it on purpose? It would have to be similar to A.--[[User:Connorbb|Connorbb]] <span style="color:red;">(Connor</span> [[User talk:Connorbb|ROCKS]]<span style="color:red;"> !!!!)</span> 07:34, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

**Peter still didn't have the hang of his ability, he just got Tracy's power without meaning to, in BTEs after that episode, they said that Peter was getting better because he could choose whether or not pick up a power when touching someone who has one. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 11:49, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
I think that when he uses his ability, he doesn't necessarily know what their ability is, and gets that ability, and doesn't necessarily know that he has that ability, unlike [[Arthur Petrelli|his father]]. And if he comes across somebody with multiple abilities, then I think he still doesn't necessarily know what their abilities are, and he gets a random one. Although, what he said to [[Sylar]] in [[the President]]'s car suggests that he chose to get [[shape shifting]].--[[User:ERROR|ERROR]] 09:40, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

== He only has shape shifting. ==
There's a reason for Peter to have only one power when he touches evolved hmans. Only one. Even though Sylar has many of them, why should he be an exception? -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 06:15, 30 May 2009 (EDT)
*I don't entirely understand what you're saying, are you asking why should Peter be an exception? For that matter, why should Sylar? In some ways I think Peter needs more powers so he can balance Sylar. It is possible that he has multiple abilities b/c of Sylar, and as soon as he touches someone else they'll all go away. It's also possible that he just has shape shifting. I would also like to note that there is some evidence he picked up regeneration, with how his limp goes away quickly, but it's not conclusive. That's why I suggest we leave the statement open to the possibility of multiple pending further information. Thoughts? --[[User:Spellingbee|<span style="color:indigo">SpellingBee</span>]][[User talk:Spellingbee|<span style="color:blue"><sup>~Talk to me!~</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spellingbee|<span style="color:green"><sub>~Contribs~</sub></span>]] 18:49, 2 June 2009 (EDT)

==Ability Developement==
I think that when Peter gets better control over his ability, its going to evolve into Arthur's Power Absorption,and when it does, are we going to move this page to power absorption, or just leave it Ability Replication. [[User:Daevon|Daevon]] 15:02, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
* It's not even certain Peter's ability will ever evolve. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 15:14, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
*We all know heroes, 9 times out of 10 most abilities evolve. [[user:Daevon|Daevon]] 17:04, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
** As for me, if Peter's power evolves, it will allow him not to lose replicated abilities. It would be just like empathic mimicry, only tactile. Tactile mimicry, yeah. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 02:47, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
***But, turning his ability into power absorption would limit Peter's abilities, which the writers are trying to do, and plus if he finds out who "Nathan" really is, he can take all his abilities, except for flight, making him really Nathan, without all the dangers of Sylar and his "hunger". Plus,I like that Tactile Mimicry name. Really creative. [[User:Daevon|Daevon]] 20:31, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
****Only to have Peter go Sylar on everyone else? We know he's not capable of handling the hunger. And tactile mimicry isn't that good a name, the current name would still fit if he retained abilities through touch. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:45, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
*****That was only when he had empathic mimicry, he's shown extreme control over the abilities he's replicated. Now, he would probably be able to control it. [[User:Daevon|Daevon]] 20:57, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
****** Flight, enhanced strength, and telepathy are all abilities he already gained this control over with empathic mimicry. He certainly wasn't good at controlling Tracy's ability. The only one left is shape shifting, and we never saw how he would handle shape shifting with empathic mimiciry. - [[User:Josh|Josh]] ([[User talk:Josh|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Josh|contribs]]) 14:46, 22 June 2009 (EDT)
***** Peter would probably need to activate intuitive aptitude again in order to feel the hunger. - [[User:Josh|Josh]] ([[User talk:Josh|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Josh|contribs]]) 14:46, 22 June 2009 (EDT)
* We have a "semi-canon" source for that ability being named "power absorption", so that's what we would call it. - [[User:Josh|Josh]] ([[User talk:Josh|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Josh|contribs]]) 14:46, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

And you never know. Perhaps Peter will steal all of Sylar's abilities. And perhaps when he does that, at that point, he can steal all of the abilities of somebody, but loses them when he uses his [[Ability replication|ability]] on somebody else.

Here's how I think his ability will grow (If his [[Ability replication|new ability]] isn't his [[Empathic mimicry|old one]]...). First, he can copy any and all of the abilities of anybody he touches, but he still loses them all if he copies somebody else's ability. Then, he learns to steal abilities instead of copy them, but other than that, it's the same, i.e. he loses his old abilities if he gains new ones. This is when he'd steal Sylar's abilities, and then he'd copy/steal another ability, therefore losing Sylar's abilities. THEN he'd learn to retain copied/stolen abilities, but he will never learn how to retain abilities he lost before that point, as they are no longer there to retain. Then maybe, he can learn to transfer his absorbed abilities to other people, i.e. the opposite of [[Power absorption|ability extraction]]. Thoughts?--[[User:ERROR|ERROR]] 23:44, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
* I would hate if they did that with Peter, they should just give him his dads ability so he can take all of "Nathan"s. Theyd still be limiting his abilities, like they want to, but at least hed have some power. [[User:Daevon|Daevon]] 23:56, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
* Why would Peter's new ability become power absorption? Peter doesn't steal abilities even now - I mean, if his power had a potential to evolve into that, he would already be able to remove powers from others, but he would lose them each time he steals someone else's power. It's just too different from that. Arthur steals abilities, Peter simply copies them. There's no reason for him to become like his father. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 04:55, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
**What's an evolution of copying? Stealing. Plus, his and arthur's abilities arent that different, The effects are even similar. [[User:Daevon|Daevon]] 23:59, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
*** Explain it. Why should copying evolve into stealing? -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 03:25, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
****Because it makes the most sense. Why should copying evolve into more copying? That makes no sense. [[User:Daevon|Daevon]] 12:45, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
***** Dunno. For example, Sylar's intuitive aptitude didn't evolve into power absorption. Instead, he learnt how to absorb powers through empathy. As for Peter, he had a perfect absorbing ability - EM - but his currnet method of absorbing is lame. Sure it has to become better! -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 14:15, 22 June 2009 (EDT)
****** I've been less-than-pleased with Peter's new ability but recently i thought about it. The writer's got as far as they could with Peter's old EM so they gave him a new ability. One that was similar to EM but clearly different. EM makes everything with Peter too easy (ex: "Oh, there's a fire that'll kill everyone? Don't worry i absorbed water mimicry last week..") This new ability is better story-wise and probably won't develop... Much to my chagrin --[[User:Peter|Peter]] 20:20, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

Nah, on second thought, Peter would be too powerful if his ability developed the way I said it would. And the writers obviously don't want to make him powerful.

But his ability will grow, trust me. He already seems to be automatically adept at whatever ability he gets, and it appears he's a little quicker at getting abilities. His ability's definitely on an improvement trend.--[[User:ERROR|ERROR]] 19:47, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

== Claire saw how Peter used his ability on Sylar ==
Check this out. -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 04:45, 18 July 2009 (EDT)

[[Image:Powers Claire witnesses ability replication.PNG]]

* umm.. what does this picture mean? That possibly Claire will explain the ability? --[[User:Peter|Peter]] 20:23, 7 August 2009 (EDT)
** It's an example of Peter's ability. {{User:Altes/Signature}}
*** Im sorry, maybe it's my browser that's messing this up, but how is a pic of Claire looking through a door an example of peters ability? Unless she was looking at Peter using it but I don't think this picture properly show that.. --[[User:Peter|Peter]] 23:39, 8 August 2009 (EDT)
**** Remember when Peter and Nathan fought Sylar, the door was [[Telekinesis|shut]], and Claire saw many [[Electric manipulation|blue flashes]] and one orange. The last one might have been Peter's ability. {{User:Altes/Signature}}

Did Claire say she saw an orange spark or was there a nano second in the screen. 50000JH

Is it possible that when Sylar attack him with electrical manipulation that the ability copied it. 50000JH

== If Sylar obtains this power... ==
... and uses it to obtain another, what will happen? Will he lose all of abilities he already has? {{User:Altes/Signature}}
** I don't think so because that ability will probably work independently of his other abilities, for example, if he got ability replication and he replicated telepathy, and then after that he replicated another power, he would lose telepathy. Get it? -- [[User:Daevon|Daevon]] 14:44, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
*** Don't forget to add the signature, your idea makes sense, but it still sounds complicated. I hope Sylar will never have AR, my brain is melting. {{User:Altes/Signature}}
****It's a pretty simple concept, if you can't understand it, you have some problems. [[User:Gamerelite1|Gamerelite1]] 22:19, 26 September 2009 (EDT)

==No Glowing when Acquiring Super Speed==
I noticed that when Peter acquired Super Speed from Edgar, there was no glowing involved. Should we change the description to reflect this? I am bringing this up because the claim that Peter always had a hand glowing effect when using his power was used to discredit a theory that Peter took a different ability from Sylar (who was shape shifted into the imaage of the president) after shaking his hand and reverting to his original form to the suprise of Sylar. (That theory is largely irrelevant now, but I thought I'd just bring up this discrepency.) 20:52, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
*Maybe we missed it in the middle of the fight? I do think there was a sound. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:59, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
**I watched those few seconds, like, 5 times, and still missed any of the usual light effect. Also, I vaguely think there's a loud crash right around that time, so I can't say I've definitely heard the sound effect. --[[User:Spellingbee|<span style="color:indigo">SpellingBee</span>]][[User talk:Spellingbee|<span style="color:blue"><sup>~Talk to me!~</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spellingbee|<span style="color:green"><sub>~Contribs~</sub></span>]] 18:00, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
***I watched it and I didn't see the glowing (I looked) or hear the sound effects, but I think the producers may have just cut it out as they didn't feel the need for such dramatic effects anymore.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 03:18, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

==2 powers?==
Is it just me or did anybody else notice that after he got into the little fight with edgar, in which he touched him and somehow aquired his ability, he threw him half way across the room, in the air, and then told noah he had his ability. Now, does peter have both abilities at once or is this just a mistake. 21:09, 22 September 2009 (EDT)[[User:Daevon]]
*No way to tell, the fight was choreographed very quickly and we only see limited camera angles. Also, effects of super speed could mimic super strength; for example throwing an object or running into someone extremely fast would of course increase the force of the impact. Same thing with super strength. -{{user:barbedknives/sig}}21:13, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
**True but did u see how high and far he through him, daphne couldnt do that. 21:17, 22 September 2009 (EDT) [[User:Daevon]]
*** Small note: Daphne's female. However, I'm not sure even a guy could've managed it w/o a boost to his strength. --[[User:Spellingbee|<span style="color:indigo">SpellingBee</span>]][[User talk:Spellingbee|<span style="color:blue"><sup>~Talk to me!~</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spellingbee|<span style="color:green"><sub>~Contribs~</sub></span>]] 18:00, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
**** Daphne also carried two fully grown males long distances with her power. I can't remember the exact episodes but I know she did it. Super speed has a side effect of increasing agility and temporary strength in some cases. This kind of strength can only be maintained with momentum, and has an upward limit on lifting weights. Peter had plenty of room to lunge quickly and forcefully at Edgar, possibly throwing him a few yards. He either had super speed, super strength, or both. However I don't feel that the scene gave us enough details and information to say for sure. -{{user:barbedknives/sig}} 14:13, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
****I think he just had one power, but Peter could have been using his own strength. I mean he clearly had increased fighting abilities (maybe he took some classes) and people can knock other people around without enhanced strength. I was impressed with his new skills and thought nothing of it.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 03:21, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
*****I'm pretty sure he doesn't have both abilities. The writers would make a bigger deal of it if his ability had evolved. I think he had super strength, tossed Edgar across the room, and took his ability as he threw him. Therefore he now had super speed, as he said to Noah.[[User:Swmystery|Swm]] 13:22, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
******I think he replicated it when he touched his arm. They did a close-up of that like they always do when Peter replicates a power (well except when Peter replicated from Sylar and that pissed me off) so I think that was when he did it.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 14:48, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
*******I just watched the scene again, there are some blurring effects (similar to the ones used to illustrate super speed) used when peter tosses edgar across the room, its subtle, but I think I can safely conclude that peter immediately absorbed edgars speed and used it to toss him. I would've loved to see some indication of a multi-powered peter, but alas.[[User:Fourletterfame|Fourletterfame]] 10:26, 30 September 2009 (EDT)

== Time manipulation ==

If Hiro or someone else stop time and Peter was present at the time would Peter not be frozen and that his subconscious would activate the ability.50000JH
* As long as Peter doesn't have STM, he'll be affected. {{User:Altes/Signature}}
** A more interesting question, can hiro's malfuntioning STM ability be absorbed by peter, and if so, will peter suffer the same difficulties or health problems as hiro currently does? [[User:Fourletterfame|Fourletterfame]] 09:38, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
*** I think he will, although it would be easy for him to get rid of it =) {{User:Altes/Signature}}
****I doubt he would absorb the negative aspects. When peter was around mohinder, he didn't absorb the mutated power, neither did arthur when he was around mohinder. It seems to just pick up the ability and no mutations or side effects that aren't directly related to the power.
***** Peter was only exposed to Mohinder's mutated ability, he never accessed it. And a BTE interview stated that after stealing Peter's powers, Arthur could choose how he acquired abilities: he could steal them like he usually did, or he could use Peter's power, leaving the absorbee's ability intact. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:05, 30 September 2009 (EDT)

== Could Peter be able to select an ability from a multi-ability person? ==

Peter does say at the end of Invisible Thread that he bet Sylar didn't know Peter replicated that ability. Could that allude to Peter choosing shapeshifting specfically? And if so what does that mean for us, viewers, if he tried to replicate Nathylar, Sylar who is Nathan, ability/abilities again?
--[[User:Horrorman|Horrorman]]
* Well, I doubt Peter would absorb Mohinder's ability if he had all of Sylar's, so most likely he specifically chose shape shifting. And if Sylar has flight and Peter uses AR on him, he will take flight. If Sylar doesn't have flight... I don't know what happens then. {{User:Altes/Signature}}
** I think he has the ability to selectively choose which ability to acquire. The question is, does he have to have prior knowledge of the abilities someone has (in the case of multiples) in order to make that selection so he can have the ability he wants in mind, or is he able to "detect" each individual ability and select at the moment he touches them. The writers have fallen off the wagon on explaining the circumstances behind peter's new ability for a while now, and it's starting to wear down my patience. In the first season, there was a bit of speculation about his ability when it was first developing, and finally there were some facts laid out by mohinder about his [peter's] ability. It seems though, as of late, they are trying to give us very little to go on. We know as little about his ability as he does, that he can absorb abilities through touch, that they can be synthetic or natural, and that he can only hold one at a time. Furthermore, I once again have to say that I protest nerfing peter's ability. But I do suspect that he's currently on the path to regaining his EM, his conversation with samuel reminded me a lot of the old peter, and I think it helped him get in touch with his reasons for being a hero at all. If the statements made in the past about peter's state of mind and disconnection hold any weight at all, we may see a change for the better really soon.[[User:Fourletterfame|Fourletterfame]] 10:26, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
*** I'm honestly not sure here. I don't think if he could have chosen a power he would have chosen shape shifting. I think he probably meant Sylar thought he got one his other powers that were a lot more useful to fighting. If I had a choice I would have gone for telekinesis or electric manipulation. He was in a fight when he replicated and shape shifting's just good for a trick mostly. I doubt he even really had time when battling to grab Sylar for more than a second and he probably took what he could get. Maybe he could have gotten more but just didn't have enough time. A power I would have chosen if I was him was Tom's Ability. Use that on Sylar and he's completly destroyed. I doubt even he could regenerate from that unless having that ability gives him some kind of immunity to it.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 13:12, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
**^I disagree. If peter took telekinesis or electric manipulation, he would be dead in seconds. They had already planned to use shape shifting, so peter specifically took it.[[User:Gamerelite1|Gamerelite1]] 19:58, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
***They never said what he planned to take (I have it on DVD, so I've seen that episode again). He had no idea that Noah had that tranquilizer so he couldn't have known he could do that. I really think he just touched Sylar and took what he could get or he would have grabbed something useful for battling. It was shown in It's Coming that Sylar can be hurt by electric manipulation. If Peter took that and blasted him like Elle did (and Peter does have some experience with that power remember), he may have been able to stun Sylar long enough to knock him out. With telekinesis he could have overturned the piano on Sylar or something. Sure Sylar would eventually regenerate, but it would knock him out. If I was battling Sylar and I had a choice of one his powers, shape shifting is ''not'' the one I would have chosen. Ya know what would have been the best ability to choose (too bad Peter didn't know Sylar had it)??? Tom's ability. One hit from that and its Bye Bye Sylar. That destroys something completly and Tom indicated it did work on organic matter, Sylar couldn't regenerate from that.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 18:12, 1 October 2009 (EDT)
**** What if Peter can only take abilities he knows of? Tom's ability is the only power Sylar never demonstrated (just like Trevor's), and I doubt Danko and his men knew Tom could destroy objects, so there was no way Peter could learn it. {{User:Altes/Signature}}
***** Stating the obvious there dude. I ''did'' say too bad Peter didn't know about it. Like I said though, he was battling Sylar, the only reason that battle ended is Nathan and Sylar flew out the window. If he could have chosen a power at that moment, I think he would have chosen one for the battle not one to later trick Sylar. As for the Trevor thing, I honestly think these writters are making these things up about abilities as they go along. For example, I think they put that in Villians so they could have him take an ability and go evil and as the Shanti Virus stripped all of his other powers, we're never gonna see it again. Also, The Hunger??? Think that was made up for the whole Villians arc as we never saw any signs of that before. They've just made Sylar too powerful (completly invincible, I mean come on!!!!!! Being able to regenerate was bad enough (wasn't happy about that one either) but pretty much unable to be killed???) and made Peter, who was like his arch-foe (which I ''did'' like by the way) too weak to basicaly battle him truly anymore. With empathic mimicry the two could battle it out without problems but then they turn it into Ability Replication and now Peter can't really fight him too well. Sorry about the rant there but it just pisses me off.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 14:22, 2 October 2009 (EDT)
****** Oops, I missed the part about Tom's ability... But still, Peter may not be able to take powers he doesn't know of. Why did he take shape shifting? I mentioned earlier that Claire might have seen how Peter took Sylar's power, it was right at the end of the battle. Maybe Peter saw Nathan and Sylar flying away, so he planned Sylar's capture in the last moment and took shape shifting - he knew Sylar would be after the President, and impersonating him first was a good plan indeed. I guess. {{User:Altes/Signature}}
******* I rewatched that part and I never saw any indication that Claire could have seen Peter take Sylar's powers. I just saw a bunch of blue flashes of light (electric manipulation I assume) nothing that looked or sounded like Peter's power. I doubt he grabbed him at the very last second, my guess is that the two flew around and Sylar kept blasting at them and maybe while he was distracted by Nathan, Peter managed to get close enough to touch him, but I doubt he had more than a second to do it. Ya know, if Sylar hadn't taken Tom's power I'd have said he just got the last one stolen, but I think he just grabbed and got shape shifting for whatever reason.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 15:01, 2 October 2009 (EDT)
******** I made a pic of that moment, and it was discussed [[Talk:Ability_replication#Claire_saw_how_Peter_used_his_ability_on_Sylar|here]]. If you have rewatched that scene, you couldn't have missed one single orange flash after many blue ones. I think that was Peter's ability. {{User:Altes/Signature}}

== Peter's Empathy? ==

Did it seem like peter connected with samuel, or am I crazy?[[User:Fourletterfame|Fourletterfame]] 10:30, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
* I think that was Samuel's goal. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:48, 30 September 2009 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 07:08, 12 November 2013

Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources Episodes
2. Near-canon Sources Webisodes,
Graphic Novels,
iStories,
Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources Episode commentary,
Interviews,
Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities
 Descriptions
6. Possessor's name If no non-speculative
description is possible
Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine ability replication's name.
Source/Explanation
Peter replicates the abilities of others.
Archives Archived Topics
Feb-Mar 2009 [[Talk:Ability replication/Archive 1#

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Mar-Sept 2009 [[Talk:Ability replication/Archive 2#

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Peter's Empathy?

Did it seem like peter connected with samuel, or am I crazy?Fourletterfame 10:30, 30 September 2009 (EDT)

Peter replicating from Emma

It wasn't quite clear when he did it, it was either when he saved her from that bus or when he kept grabbing her on the sidewalk. They seem to have discared the sound effects and visual effects associated with this ability this season.--WarGrowlmon18 13:01, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

    • I'm positive I heard a sound effect when he kept pestering her on the sidewalk to see if she was ok.Gamerelite1 14:47, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
      • Rewatched episode, there was no sound but they zoomed in on his hands touching her sidearm, so that was the point where he took her ability -- (WaterRatj) 08:15, 19 October 2009 (EDT)

Special Effects

The special effects used to be yellow or gold-ish, but when Peter took Hiro's ability, it was a blue type effect. --mc_hammark 07:54, 20 October 2009 (EDT)

  • Ability special effects have been changed in the past, most glaring example being Candice's illusions. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 13:54, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
    • When did Candice's special effects change? --mc_hammark 15:34, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
      • Near the end of season one, the first effect was a ripple one that happened both on her and her surroundings, but they changed it to this morph effect with a bright light, it was sucky compared to the first one. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 15:44, 20 October 2009 (EDT)

Lost Control

Anyone else starting to think Peter can't control this ability, like when he touched Emma he accidentally replicated her power. It could explainwhy he didn't just teleport Jeremy. --Fr0z3nB0nes 17:54, 20 October 2009 (EDT)

  • Most accepted theory is that he replicated it because he could connect with her, kinda like an echo of his original ability. He's still limited to touch, but he doesn't need to actively replicate the ability. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:59, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Although we do have to question why he didn't just teleport him to heal hiro. Some of you may say it would have impacted on Noah's storyline about helping Jeremy but he could have just as easily recruited him to his new company. I'm sure he could have found him a home and a healer would be useful to the company. BTW, doesn't Jeremy's hair kinda make him look like a young linderman.... and the same power(ish) too. Ability heredity anyone? --mc_hammark 18:14, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
      • I thought that myself, someone said in the episode's talk page that Jeremy might kill Peter because he was too nervous, but I don't think that would happen, Jeremy saw that he could heal, and Noah touched him without being killed (though he touched Jeremy's shirt, not his actual skin). Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:42, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
        • Because if peter teleported jeremy, then the plot line of hiro dying would be over.Gamerelite1 15:29, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

Examples

Shouldn't we have an examples page now? I noticed there are 12 images there now, instead of the usual 8 we have for ability pages.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 20:28, 23 October 2009 (EDT)

Aura absorption

Many fans think Peter's ability will evolve into Arthur's. Why not into Linda's? Physical contact, the glow, the source loses its power... Thoughts? AltesUTC CH

  • And take people's auras and lives along with it? I don't think he'd do that. Plus, Linda kinda had a hunger herself. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 11:48, 1 November 2009 (EST)
    • Personally I wouldn't like Peter become like Arthur or Linda, it's the fans' obsession with Peter's power development what interests me. AltesUTC CH

Draph?

Shouldn't Draph be added to the list of users of this ability?--Spexile 17:08, 3 November 2009 (EST)

  • Hellno--Yoshi n1 17:07, 3 November 2009 (EST)
    • Actually, he needs to be. He was in the istory. Although his limits are different to Peter's. I'd wait for the creator to explain it. He is on the wiki. --mc_hammark 17:09, 3 November 2009 (EST)
      • Its just not like, fair. There is a whole story how peter got this ability and then some Draph guy comes and he just seems to haves this ability? --Yoshi n1 17:21, 3 November 2009 (EST)
        • Well, he was originally created on Survival, so odds are, the creator just copied Peter's ability. By the way, don't forget your signature.--Spexile 17:17, 3 November 2009 (EST)
          • Chances are there are many people out there with abilities like this. If you get annoyed because characters come in and have the same ability as other characters we've been following then you'll end up hating a lot of the characters. --mc_hammark 17:18, 3 November 2009 (EST)
            • Yeah i know it was bullshit. But Draph gots an Assignment Tracker file and why isnt he in the page for all the people who have an assignment tracker case? --Yoshi n1 17:21, 3 November 2009 (EST)
              • That doesn't really count. All that counts is what the producers and that choose to show. It's like if Milo Ventimiglia chose to use Hiro Nakamura as a character in his comics. It wouldn't be cannon in the real world. That assignment tracker is fan made and doesn't count unless they add it to the assignment tracker page. --mc_hammark 17:22, 3 November 2009 (EST)
                • How could it be fanmade? this was on the heroes : survival site "If a member of HeroesWiki: Go to User:draphoenix to see the assignment tracker of Senna" And lets first start with making Claircognizance,Phoenix Mimicry ,Energy Manipulation and Telephasing AND BTW.. SYLAR GOT CLAIRCOGNIZANCE?? its on the assignment tracker file--Yoshi n1 17:27, 3 November 2009 (EST)
  • It's fan made, it cant be taken as cannon - Jenx222 | U / T / C 17:31, 3 November 2009 (EST)
    • Im sorry but i don't really get it, if its on the Heroes survival OFFICIAL site how could it be a fan made?
      • Heroes:Survival is an on-line game where you make your own characters up, it doesn't mean they are part of the actual heroes storyline, also the assignment tracker is on the wiki not the official site, it was made by a fan as was the character - Jenx222 | U / T / C 17:53, 3 November 2009 (EST)
        • Did this guy actually appear in the iStory, or is he just a character on Heroes: Survivial? If he hasn't appeared in an iStory chapter yet, then he doesn't need a mainspace page. -Vampirate68 | Talk | Contribs | 17:56, 3 November 2009 (EST)
          • But, if the character is used by the iStory writers, they sort of become canon, despite being fan-created. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:58, 3 November 2009 (EST)
            • Okay, so I guess he does appear. I don't read the iStory (I hate it personally. It just creates useless characters and powers) so I didn't know. I don't think we should create all of the powers he has unless we see him use them. -Vampirate68 | Talk | Contribs | 18:00, 3 November 2009 (EST)
              • Just checked it, he does actually appear, but I don't think we should create pages for all those abilities yet, they seem a little "out there", it's this sort of stuff that ruins heroes for me - Jenx222 | U / T / C 18:06, 3 November 2009 (EST)

Oh $@#&! THAT I never expected: some random guy appears with the same ability as Peter, who acquired it under very special circumstances. Meh... Didn't Draph absorb this ability from his brother? AltesUTC CH

  • Special in-uterus circumstance it seems, but it wasn't acquired, it was given, it appears. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 11:33, 4 November 2009 (EST)
    • And what's the difference? AltesUTC CH
      • So far, all we've seen is abilities being duplicated without the holder losing them, or else the ability being stolen against one's wishes. From what I could tell, in this case, the holder of the ability willingly passed on the ability to another person. I'm not 100% sure that's what happened, but it seems to be. For more info, you should ask the guy who made the character. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 11:55, 4 November 2009 (EST)
        • But we at least should add that Draph's brother also had this ability before he died, and Draph didn't initially have it. Right? AltesUTC CH
          • Fine by me. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:28, 4 November 2009 (EST)
            • Draph's Ability Replication is just as different from Peter's as Knox's strength is different from Niki's and Ando's ability is different from that Hawkins. Ability Replication was a source of guilt and pain for Draph. So, similar to others, he goes through his personal demons so he doesn't become overpowered. Moreover, there are other mimics out there in the heroes canon universe. Claude is disheartened that Peter was an empath. He knew of others and so did others. AS for ripping off peter, his Matt Parkman rip of Prof X? Well, yea. Thing is, almost nothing in this archtype is origonal anymore. And if it is origonal, people hate it for taking that leaps, look at Enhanced Synthesiza. Draphoenix 10:52, 6 November 2009 (EST)
  • Sorry but, what the hell ? So what, holding MORE THAN ONE POWER makes the thing a totally different power ! I mean, it's just another ability that can mimic, but since Peter was supposed to be THE hero and will be stuck with the crappy "one ability at a time" power, I don't think it's fair to put Draph there, saying it's more advanced ! Peter is not "not advanced", he just can't do more with it. (Because they already don't know how to handle him with one power, and because the budget was cut severely) It changes the whole concept of the power. Robert Forster said he could take powers away if he was willing to, implying he could let people with it. So it's as close as power absorption then ability replication. I mean, come on, now, that just makes Peter seem even more lame, as if it was possible. There is enough Sylar to remember us Peter is not as powerful as he should be, but if some random guy involved in a crappy story got the same ability, only mastering it 100 times better, that just makes Peter the weakest hero ever... I'm personally against. Till it is not proven Peter's power can hold several powers (mastered or not), I don't think they should be considered as being the same power. And, Draph's one looks pretty passive. So what, he just copy people passively and storing all the abilities ? It's closer to empathic mimicry then ! I mean, create another ability which involves mimicry but I don't think it's fair to give him Peter's new one. And what the hell is that story anyway, with all those powers taking away and stuff... >_< Please, don't do that to Peter, he doesn't deserve that. As far as "empaths" are few in the Heroes universe, we haven't seen much of them, apart from Peter and Sylar's papas. An probably won't, ever, since even only two was already too much for the shown and Peter is the lamest empath ever, so I think they'll stick to Sylar... And that : "According to Draph's Heroes Survival Account, Draph can hold on to a maximum of five abilities. A hindering factor of Draph's ability is that each of the five abilities must have a different elemental attribute given to them. "

How can this be considered as Ability replication ? I mean now it has to be 5 different elemental powers, and only 5 ?! They'll never do that on the show, come on, it's not Peter's power... Moreover, it has been hinted (while not confirmed) that all those mimics/empaths have the same core ability, that they access in different ways, according to their personality (before Peter's injection with the formula). So whatever happens, Draph CAN'T have Peter's power, since we have "power absorption" "empathic mimicry" etc..., they are considered as different powers, matching their owners. Draph must have his own mimic ability (let's not even talk about the elemental limit huh ?).

            • Its Ability replication because it is the same type of acquisition, touching. Not aura, not full absorption, not understanding their ability. Draphoenix 22:30, 10 November 2009 (EST)

Really empathic mimicry?

  • I'm not suggesting this be published as fact right now, but there have been hints that this ability is really just empathic mimicry (eg - Edgar claiming he has met "an empath"). We know that abiities change over time, and while they usually expand, there is no real reason why they couldn't be limited instead by this "evolution." I accept that (since we have Arthur (even though he's a liar) telling Peter he lost his power for good and the way in which Peter reobtained an ability (the serum)), we have to assume it's a new ability for now, but I really think they are moving toward it being the same ability he has always had (and have left hints to that effect). Of course, it's been a little while since I've seen the previous seasons, so I might be forgetting something, but until someone can come up with/remind me of something that proves this cannot be EM, I'm sticking to my guns.  ;) --Stevehim 12:25, 13 November 2009 (EST)
    • Nothing suggests an ability can evolve in a way that restricts its effects. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:33, 13 November 2009 (EST)
      • I think what he means is that Ability Replication could evolve into Empathic mimicry, a topic that has been debated to death already -Vampirate68 | Talk | Contribs | 12:59, 13 November 2009 (EST)
        • Nothing suggests an ability absolutely cannot evolve in a way that restricts its effects either, and ability evolution and how it works is far from clear. And I disagree that that "nothing suggests" an ability cannot be restricted via evolution. Off the top of my head (obviously, you can launch counterarguments to all of these points, but I do think that all of them together certainly at least suggests that an ability may be able to be limited as it evolves):
          1. One could make the argument that Maya's control over her power was part of it's evolution, and thus it was a direct restriction of the effects of said ability.
          2. Also, one could make an argument for Jeremy's ability doing this, depending on perspective. On the one hand, one could say his ability evolved to include giving AND taking life. On the other, one could argue it was restricted during the period when he could no longer heal things (likely due to his deteriorating mental state) but only kill them.
          3. We have also seen characters able to use their abilities and then unable to (often due to mental blocks and the such), even though they still retained their power, and so that could be argued to be part of the abilities evolution (ie - the person needs to adapt to having the ability to use it).
          4. We also have Tracy, who can apparently no longer use the solid form (ice) of her ability, though it is debatable whether or not water trumps ice  ;).
          5. Finally, we have Hiro and Arnold, both of whom have had their abilities limited over time with no outside catalyst (like the formula).
          • I was actually suggesting it wasn't ability replication at all, and that a remnant of Peter's ability remained even beyond Arthur's absorption of it, and has re-manifested (due to the formula) in a currently restricted way (it seems pretty convenient that he'd gain such a similar ability, even going with the whole idea of a genetic makeup being predisposed toward a certain ability). It has indeed been debated to death, but, afaik, not since new info (ie - Peter being directly called an 'empath,' albeit from a poor source) has come to light. In any case, I was just putting this here now in case we get more definitive evidence that it is the same as his original power (and that the formula just "got it going again"), and am still not suggesting we reopen the official debate or change anything on the site. --Stevehim 01:02, 15 November 2009 (EST)
            • In my opinion, Edgar calling Peter an "Empath" was probably just due to the nature of replicating abilities. It's possible that Peter (other than useless Draph) is the first and only example of this particular tactile mimicry, and Edgar simply assumed that he had empathic mimicry. Being associated with the carnival, and a wide variety of different abilities, not to mention the current theory that Joseph himself was a mimic, Edgar probably recognized the effects of that ability from previous experience, and recounted it to Samuel as Empathic Mimicry. I could be mistaken, but it's really the only conclusion that makes sense. In essence Peter is still a mimic, it's only the method that's changed. Assuming that it's a unique ability, to an observer unfamiliar with it, it would look, just like empathic mimicry. Fourletterfame 01:26, 15 November 2009 (EST)
              • Maya getting more control over her ability is an evolution, but not a restrictive form. She has more control, but she was still able to affect everyone in her range, she didn't lose that ability when she gained control. Jeremy being able to kill only is a psychological effect, not a biological restriction. Same with people who were afraid of using their abilities, they can do it, they just don't want to because they're scared. Nothing suggests Tracy was ever able to become solid ice, she froze because she was wet and used the ice part of her power, she's still able to freeze things, as shown when she attacked Noah and Edgar. Hiro and Arnold have nothing to do with the catalyst. Hiro became sick because he started doing something with his ability that he wasn't supposed to, taking people to his "frozen time" perspective. We know nothing about Arnold, he could have simply developed cancer because of his old age. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 08:22, 15 November 2009 (EST)
                • As I said, you can launch counterarguments to all of the examples presented. however, those are more subjective than "fact," and counter-counterarguments can be made as well.
  1. If you assert that Maya's control over her power was an evolution that was not restrictive, than when she loses control that would be the restrictive form, and she does lose control prior to gaining it, at least momentarily (and almost kills crazy-Mohinder before he convinces her not to).
  2. Jeremy's "switch" was most likely a psychological effect, and this has happened to others as well. However, to say that there was no biological shift along with it is presuming (as is saying there is a biological shift with it), and thus inconclusive. The biology/physiology of these abilities has never, to my knowledge, been made clear. We have a random comment about codons in Season 1 with regards to Sylar, some very vague comments by Mohinder connecting it to adrenaline later, and an aside by Angela about Nathan being "predisposed" toward gaining an artificial power, and that is about all we know about the biology side, afaik. That hardly lets us know what is going on, and is not remotely enough information to make conclusions about how the psychological/biological effects play into the powers evolving. And "power evolution" can be argued to be psychological as well, in any case. Peter's control over his initial ability was far more psychological than biological in S1 (the evidence suggests), if you consider his control an evolution of his powers (though obviously that was not restrictive).
  3. I'm not sure what you mean about Tracy. You say nothing suggests she could become solid and then state she froze by using the ice part of her power...ice is the solid phase of water. However, I did forget that she still uses her power to freeze, so I withdraw that particular example.
  4. When are we told what aspect of his power made Hiro sick? I have only seen each episode once, so may have missed it, but I don't recall that being stated at all. Nor do I recall it being stated that any aspect of his ability was an "improper" use of power. I'm also not sure what you mean by "the catalyst." Are you talking about this? If so, what does that have to do with the evolution of abilities? That was just what allowed the formula to bond to human DNA, not what determines powers evolving (and it had a lot to do with Hiro, as he was the catalyst until Arthur stole it from him  ;)). As for Arnold, it is all speculation at this point, but we do know that his his body was unable to stand the strain of using the ability to teleport Charlie, and that is why he died...not because of cancer (iirc....Samuel told this to Hiro directly...whether Samuel is lying is another matter...). I think it was also stated a few times that the strain of using the power is what put Arnold in his current condition, but I'd have to go back and check for specific examples on that front. --Stevehim 04:29, 16 November 2009 (EST)
                  • What I meant about Tracy is that she didn't become solid ice, she became ice because she used the cold/ice part of her ability while soaking wet. Masi Oka revealed the source of Hiro's cancer, though I can't remember where exactly, other users might be able to tell you that. We don't usually take everything actors say about their character as fact, but the lack of any other statement leaves that as the only explanation, so until any other official source says it, Hiro couldn't control his ability properly and developed a cancer because he didn't freeze in time alone, he started bringing people with him, when he freezes time while touching someone, they don't freeze in time, they stay in the same reference as Hiro. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:07, 16 November 2009 (EST)
                        • Interesting. I was unaware of Masi's comments, and would be interested to read them, but I will certainly take your word for it. I can't think of a specific example offhand, but that just feels like it contradicts what we've seen in the show so far. If I have tme (which is rare these days, unfortunately), I'll have to go back and look at future Hiro and Peter and the present dfay Season 1's and see if they ever did that back then. --Stevehim 15:10, 16 November 2009 (EST)

Upcoming corrections needed

The article states: "Peter can currently only hold one ability at a time, losing access to his previous ability once he absorbs a new one."
Then, a bit later: "It is unclear if his ability is dependent on his hands, or what would happen if he came into contact with someone with multiple abilities, like Sylar or even someone with a passive ability like Claire Bennet, or if he can replicate multiple abilities at once by touching two evolved humans simultaneously."
We have now seen Peter come into contact with someone with several abilities. I would, however, suggest that we wait another week or two to see exactly what occurred (whether Peter now has all of Sylar's abilities, or has to actively choose which single one he wants when using his power....though it is very likely the former, as the latter has inherent problems). --Stevehim 06:53, 23 November 2009 (EST)

  • I can guarantee Peter has currently only one ability : Flight.--Kleith 07:48, 23 November 2009 (EST)
    • How can you guarantee that? --Stevehim 22:18, 23 November 2009 (EST)
      • He doesn't have another ability he discarded healing.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 22:22, 23 November 2009 (EST)
      • Well in Thanksgiving, Sylar pinned Peter down with Telekinesis, if Peter had other abilities, he might have escaped from Sylar's 'grip.' Granted maybe Peter didn't know, but he didn't even try to see if had other powers. Although I do believe he did try and struggle but he failed. --Dman dustin 22:26, 23 November 2009 (EST)

The amount of abilities Peter can have

It looks like he can currently only have one even if he replicates from Sylar, but he seems to be able to control which one he gets. He clearly wanted flight and got that one from him. Its still not clear if he took shape shifting on purpose or not or if he just activated his replication and took what he could get that time. I think that time he took what he could get because, as I've said earlier, who would want shape shifting in a battle??? He discarded that one pretty quick too so I doubt he'd gotten more than that the first time either considering the range of abilities Sylar had. This time he took flight to keep up with Sylar as Nathan and discarded it as it didn't fit with what he needed. That was pretty damn smart of him to take mental manipulation to face Sylar. I think he purposly had that ability deactivated when Sylar attacked him so that he could catch Sylar by surprise with him thinking he was just going to drug him again, which did work. I think though he and Nathan should have used the chance to kill Sylar once and for all while they had mental manipulation and Nathan's control on their side. He's also clearly a better physical fighter than in earlier seasons too given his fights with Edgar and Sylar.--WarGrowlmon18 15:11, 1 December 2009 (EST)

  • Basically, I think Peter can choose what ability he takes from a multiple-powered individual, but only if he knows exactly what he's looking for. As you point out, Shape-shifting is not the ideal combat power. Out of Sylar's absorbed powers at that time, Disintegration would be (as it is the only ability in play that could bypass his regeneration). Logically then, if Peter could pick from any of Sylar's powers, he'd have taken that and killed him on the spot. Since he didn't, I infer that he couldn't, as it makes no logical sense for him not to- we know that he can choose an ability because of Brother's Keeper. Out of the powers Peter knew Sylar had, Shape-shifting or Regeneration were the only logical choices as Sylar would heal from any damage inflicted by the offensive powers. Claire's power wouldn't actually help him deal with Sylar, so he picked Shape-shifting to trick him later. Later, he knew Sylar could fly, so he chose to steal that power to track him. Swm 13:36, 2 December 2009 (EST)
    • The first time just isn't clear enough. Why would he want to try and trick him later when he's battling him now??? Sylar can be hurt, he just can't be killed. I can think of ways that something like telekinesis could be used against him and electrical manipulation can clearly hurt him given It's Coming. All he had to do was just knock him out. Regenerators can be knocked out, they recover eventually, but that doesn't stop them from getting hurt enough to get knocked out say if Peter used telekinesis to overturn the piano on his head.--WarGrowlmon18 14:01, 2 December 2009 (EST)
      • The way I see it, the plan from even before Pete and Nathan went in was to take Shapeshifting. They knew they couldn't take him in a fight. They weren't trying to fight him, just to get Peter close enough to take Shapeshifting. --EkimCF 19:27, 2 December 2009 (EST)
    • We don't know that disintegration would bypass regeneration, do we? --Stevehim 20:11, 2 December 2009 (EST)
      • I concur with EkimCF. The plan was always for them to get shapeshifting, I think. Why else would they go charging in there knowing the best they could do would be to knock him out? As soon as he woke up again they'd be screwed. While you are correct about the possible damage that can be done to him through offensive powers, it would be suicide to take them. Example: Peter takes lightning and shocks Sylar. He regenerates from the burns, like he did with Elle, and splits open his throat with TK. Not the best idea. I'm pretty sure Disintegration would bypass regeneration, as there's nothing left to regenerate- the brain, body, everything would be destroyed. There's also an orange flash that can be seen right at the end of the scene where Claire's eye is at the door, meaning Peter's power. By then, they'd probably realised they'd lost that skirmish, and so moved to the other plan using shape-shifting. Swm 06:44, 5 December 2009 (EST)
        • If their plan was just to let Peter take shape shifting, why would Nathan risk his life? AltesUTC CH 06:52, 5 December 2009 (EST)
          • It's worst than that, they didn't know there was a syringe able to take Sylar down that Noah was bringing with him ! (And they had no phone so he clearly didn't call them) So even if this could have been their plan, there is no way it could have worked since the timing was way too short ! Then, Peter and Nathan states they want to "cut that son of a bitch in two", Nathan said Peter could do whatever Sylar could do. Excuse me but that absolutely doesn't sound as "Peter can take another form too" but more "my brother can be Sylar's equal". Why would they charge on him otherwise ? It was obvious they were gonna fail. Nathan flew Sylar out because he was killing Peter. Peter went immediately for Nathan so that proves it wasn't planned, it's only HRG that stopped him and that's when the "other plan" took place. I think Peter took shapeshifting because as said above, other powers, while being more powerful, would have ended up useless... Or maybe Peter only got one shot to grab a power and didn't really had the time to take whatever he wanted. It doesn't make sense otherwise since Peter almost got killed in that fight ! (And Nathan did die!) They could have easily ask Hiro or Peter could have taken his power and cut Sylar's head, I don't know... Moreover, Sylar moved his KILL spot, but a deep injury into the brain MUST turn him off, like Claire and Peter. The brain can't work if obstructed by an object of some sort, if deep enough.--Kleith 07:12, 5 December 2009 (EST)
            • If Peter can choose, why didn't he simply take Telekinesis and decapitate Sylar? He could have done that with one quick swipe of the finger and Sylar wouldn't be able to come back from that at all! Plus, if Nathan distracted Sylar, Peter would have had plenty of time to choose what ability he wanted.--Hiroman 05:03, 9 January 2010 (EST)
              • He probably can choose, but only if given the proper amount of time and focus. Peter still seems to take other's abilities at random whenever in a tense situation (on the plane with Tracy and when saving Emma), so the same may occur when he tried to take from Sylar the first time. He took shapeshifting because he grabbed Sylar in the midst of a fight, and wasn't able to focus long enough to take a specific ability. Also, Kleith, we can't assume that Nathan knows the full extent of Peter's powers. I also agree with Stevehim, we've seen "disintergration" used ONCE on a ceramic figure, and for some reason we all assume that it makes the user omnipotent. That's ridiculously speculative.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 13:31, 9 January 2010 (EST)

Intuitive Aptitude?

What would happen (I couldn't imagine this would be anything but opinion) if Peter absorbed Sylar's Intuitive Aptitude and (Completely out of character-ly) cut open someone's head and took their ability? Would he keep that ability forever or lose it when he lost Intuitive Aptitude? -Zaxbeez

  • Sylar seems to require his IA to use his other abilities- that's why the hunger is always present when he has access to his powers. However, if Peter did mimic his IA and go on a killing spree, his ability replication would become somewhat redundant anyway. Why bother taking someone's ability temporarily if you can get it permanantely by either killing them or making an emotional connection? If the hunger didn't eat Peter alive like it did in Volume 3, he'd probably opt for the latter. Swm 06:41, 26 January 2010 (EST)
    • The even more speculative, hypothetical scenario would be, he took Intuitive aptitude, used it to acquire (by force or through empathy) an ability or two, and then disposed of IA- would he retain the powers gained through IA or not? Totally speculative, but an interesting thought.--Evil Maldini 11:12, 6 February 2010 (EST)

If Sylar tells Peter that he can gain abilities empathically, through his Intuitive Aptitude and replicate this, then empathically connect with Sylar(although I don't how they do this.) he could gain empath this could help connect with people easily and gain more than one ability.--50000JH 16:04, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

Who likes this power?

I know a lot of people don't like this ability because he went from Peter having 15 abilities, to just one at a time. But who does like this ability? I just want to know that. I am kind of a fan of this ability. Believe me that I would rather have Peter with empathic mimicry again, but this is a pretty cool power. So again, I just want to know the people who do like / don't mind this ability. I don't want to see people who don't.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 17:57, 9 February 2010 (EST)

  • I do like it, yes. If I couldn't have any of the other powerful copy abilities then I would love this one. Pick any ability you want, just remember to keep a phonebook incase you need to change it. I honestly think the main reason people don't like it is because Peter has it after having EM. Otherwise, it it was just another character, like Draph, who came in with it, they'd be fine with it. --mc_hammark 18:06, 9 February 2010 (EST)
    • Peter was too overpowered with EM, unless someone hugged him. I like him with this one, he seems to think things out more instead of rushing in blindly with no plan, hoping all his abilities would help the situation.--Ratclaws 18:22, 9 February 2010 (EST)
      • Well, I like the ability but I dont like Peter having this ability.-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 18:25, 9 February 2010 (EST)
        • I prefer this ability to Peter's old one by far. Empathic Mimicry is an entirely overpowered ability that always turns the wielder into a living god. The only question is how long this process will take. I never want to see such a character darken my TV screen again, which puts me in direct opposition to most fans who seemed to love the fact that Peter could slap anyone except Sylar around without trouble. This power, by contrast, has done wonders for Peter's character as he's been forced to use his head more, and has no danger of making the wielder too strong. Swm 18:32, 9 February 2010 (EST)
          • I actually do like this power as it forces him to think tactically, he can't just walk in and dominate (like another certain someone). However, I think he should get some type of limited EM back, where he has to know the person for a good amount of time, rather then a few seconds before he begins to use their power. Heck, I'd even take a lame explanation like "When Nathan died, Peter's heart was permanently broken, and he'll never make such quick empathic connections again. Ever."--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 19:20, 9 February 2010 (EST)
            • Like people said, I like that this ability came with a brain, because Peter's wasn't very sharp. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:19, 9 February 2010 (EST)
              • Altes likes this power. AltesUTC CH 06:37, 10 February 2010 (EST)
                • I like it. EM would be a great power to have, but a terrible power to write. Peter HAD to be an idiot to compensate for that power. AR is both versatile and limited, and Peter has to use his head sometimes to deal with more limited power.--Cro Magnon 12:09, 11 February 2010 (EST)
                  • I like the ability and how it makes you think which power is more important, but I don't like Peter with it. Peter should have multiple abilities. And I don't like how they gave Sylar Peter's original ability making him "the most special", they obviously think that Sylar can have more than one because his apparently so great, but Peter is dumb. They could of wrote Peter with a "brain" with multiple abilities, as they do with Sylar so they are just lousy writers. --Powermimic 00:52, 12 February 2010 (EST)
                    • I like it. His new ability makes him the opposite if Sylar, having only one ability at a time and needing people to help him. --Decimo 14:15, 28 February 2010 (EST)

Different Name?

I think this Ability should have a different name, because "Replication" means making copies. I would think this power would have the name "Single Replication" or something like that. Replication doesn't tell the whole story behind the ability enough like Empathic Mimicry would mean Copying through Emotion or using through emotion. Ability Replication wouldn't be much different then Empathic Mimicry for the names.

  • Replication means to duplicate or to repeat. I don't see anything wrong with the name "ability replication". It's worked for two years now, and I don't see any reason to change it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:14, 8 May 2010 (EDT)

Copying Powers

What does anyone think would happen if Peter copied his old power? Could he then use it to copy many powers?

Or if he copied Intuitive Aptitude and then stole powers from others?--Styx (talk) 19:02, 1 October 2010 (EDT)

  • If he copied his old power or Intuitive Aptitude, I think he'd probably use the new power copying technique more often than ability replication. However, they would probably pose a dilemma to him, since he had problems controlling aspects of both of them.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:58, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
  • Yea, cause if he was to copy Intuitive Aptitude, he could then steal someones ability by removing the head etc. He could then permanently keep and power's he stole. AND could then lose Intuitive Aptitude to a different ability that he copies. If you can understand that ;)--Styx (talk) 05:30, 2 October 2010 (EDT)

His Dreams

If you look closely, the second dream is different than the first including the location. This is obviously influenced by Peter's warning to Emma that she finally listens to in Brave New World and the change in dream reflects the changes he caused in time with his warning.--WarGrowlmon18 02:08, 12 November 2013 (EST)

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